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Ultra Peanut
04-24-2005, 02:53 PM
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SI Draft Preview:

James Kilian Grade: 3.06
Position: QB
Class: Sr
School: Tulsa
Conference: WAC
Ht., Wt.: 6-3, 215
40 Time: 4.81

BIO: Two year starter who passed for 54.6 percent/2,247/13/16 as a senior. All-Conference selection the prior year after 56.8 percent/2,217/22/11.

POSITIVES: Nice sized passer with a good command of the offense. Sets up in the pocket with solid footwork, senses the blitz and consistently remains poised. Does not rush, immediately finds the open wide out and accurate in the short or intermediate field. Displays a sense of timing and hits receivers as they leave their breaks.

NEGATIVES: Does not drive the ball downfield or display the ability to throw the pass on a rope. Coming of a poor senior campaign.

ANALYSIS: An excellent team leader who rarely makes mental mistakes, Kilian is a passer that consistently works to make positive plays. Offers some upside but needs repetition and must become accustomed to a pro style passing game.

PROJECTION: Undrafted Free Agent

Michael Michigan
04-24-2005, 02:54 PM
http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2004/Players/Tulsa_JamesKilian.htm


Who is James Kilian? ...

Raise your hands all of you who gave two seconds worth of thought to Tulsa football before the 2003 season? While the Golden Hurricane still isn't going to be much of a threat to enter in the BCS debate any time soon, it was one of the surprises of last year with one of the more remarkable turnarounds in recent college football history. What made it even more amazing was how the Steve Kragthorpe era got off to a lousy start when starting quarterback Tyler Gooch, one of the few players that did anything in 2002, decided to quit to go play baseball for Oklahoma. it turned out to be a good thing for the team.

Kilian was the overall offensive spark carrying the team to an 8-5 record and the unthinkable when the season started, a bowl bid. He threw for 2,217 yards and 22 touchdowns, but he also ran for 605 yards and seven scores always seeming to come through with the big play. Just as important was how he gave Tulsa football a signature player both on and off the field.
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Certainly head coach Steve Kragthorpe is a fan of him as a player and a person, and also what he represents. "One of his greatest characteristics is that he is a tremendous worker," said Kragthorpe. "He comes from a rural background where hard work and those things are part of his daily life. I have said it before, I have three sons, but if I had a daughter, I would want him knocking on the door. He is that kind of guy. He is tremendous person and takes care of his business academically, as well."
"I think that James garnered the respect of not only this coaching staff and his teammates, but the campus and the community because of the way he handles situations, the way he is so unselfish and the way he approaches the game of football. It has certainly been a big coup for us the way he played."

Kilian's best game so far was ... in the 56-28 win over UTEP. He was great both with his arm and his legs completing 15 of 22 passes for 219 yards and two touchdowns with an interception, and ran 14 times for 121 yards and three touchdowns. He wasn't bad in the previous game, a win over SMU completing 10 of 17 passes for 177 yards and five touchdowns. He also ran for 69 yards.

Why you should care about James Kilian ... A second-team All-WAC performer last year, he'll battle Hawaii's Timmy Chang for the honor of being the league's best quarterback and possibly the WAC Player of the Year.

Positives about Kilian ... With little talent around him, Kilian found ways to make the offense explosive. There were better quarterbacks in the WAC last year, but no one was able to get the job done running and passing like he was. He turned out to be one of the league's most dangerous all-around players. He's also a high energy player. "The great thing about James is that he loves playing the game of football," Kragthorpe said. "He plays with such heart and passion it's hard to put a bridle on him because he's a full throttle guy all the time."

Negatives about Kilian ... He was tremendous against the dregs like SMU and UTEP, but failed to do much of anything against a good defense. There were four games when he didn't throw a touchdown pass and Tulsa lost all of them. Take away the five touchdown pass performance again SMU and the three against Texas State and the overall numbers are relatively average.

A cool thing about Killian that you probably didn't know ... He set the national record for eight-man football and Oklahoma all-class records with 8,426 yards and 120 touchdowns over four varsity seasons . He also rushed for 2,623 yards, scored 45 TDs setting the national eight-man record for total offense with 11,049 yards

Career statistics
2003: 188-331 for 2,217 yards and 22 touchdowns with 11 interceptions. 133 carries for 605 yards and seven TDs
2002: 22-52 for 208 yards and one touchdown with two interceptions. 23 carries for 86 yards and two TDs
2001: 6-38 for 193 yards and an interception. 23 carries for 151 yards and two TDs

thanks to the Tulsa athletic department for all the tidbits and photo

DaKCMan AP
04-24-2005, 02:55 PM
James Kilian Grade: 3.06
Position: QB
Class: Sr
School: Tulsa
Conference: WAC
Ht., Wt.: 6-3, 215
40 Time: 4.81

Grading System

BIO: Two year starter who passed for 54.6 percent/2,247/13/16 as a senior. All-Conference selection the prior year after 56.8 percent/2,217/22/11.

POSITIVES: Nice sized passer with a good command of the offense. Sets up in the pocket with solid footwork, senses the blitz and consistently remains poised. Does not rush, immediately finds the open wide out and accurate in the short or intermediate field. Displays a sense of timing and hits receivers as they leave their breaks.

NEGATIVES: Does not drive the ball downfield or display the ability to throw the pass on a rope. Coming of a poor senior campaign.

ANALYSIS: An excellent team leader who rarely makes mental mistakes, Kilian is a passer that consistently works to make positive plays. Offers some upside but needs repetition and must become accustomed to a pro style passing game.

PROJECTION: Undrafted Free Agent

BigChiefFan
04-24-2005, 02:55 PM
All 3 QBs are over 30. I think picking up a QB in the 7th round is a smart move.

Count Zarth
04-24-2005, 02:57 PM
Carl just wants some free beer.

http://www.bravenewworld.demon.co.uk/writing/killians/image1.jpg

Frankie
04-24-2005, 02:57 PM
Hurray... Our QBOTF!!

OmahaChief
04-24-2005, 02:57 PM
All 3 QBs are over 30. I think picking up a QB in the 7th round is a smart move.

No idea why we passed over Browner for this guy. Here is another guy that would have been available as a free agent. Overall the second day of the draft has been pretty bad in my opinion. Thorpe was a good pick and Grisby "sounds" like a football player but these other yahoos don't inspire me.

NaptownChief
04-24-2005, 02:58 PM
All 3 QBs are over 30. I think picking up a QB in the 7th round is a smart move.


Me too however it looks like we took one with the precision of a hand granade.

Frankie
04-24-2005, 02:58 PM
The next Brady? ;)

Michael Michigan
04-24-2005, 02:58 PM
PROJECTION: Undrafted Free Agent

Carl was "misunderestimated" again...

jspchief
04-24-2005, 02:58 PM
I have to think there were better QB prospects than Kilian. This guy doesn't make sense. He appears to be a very average passer, and above average runner. Not exactly the QB style that I see in our offense.

Skip Towne
04-24-2005, 03:00 PM
I've never heard of him and I'm from Tulsa.

Ultra Peanut
04-24-2005, 03:02 PM
Well, if we wanted mobility, I do agree that we probably had better options (*coughMcPhersoncough*).

Tulsa was pretty rancid this year, though they did record a nice upset over UTEP.

htismaqe
04-24-2005, 03:02 PM
According to the stuff I'm reading, this guy would have been a late-round value had his senior season been better.

However, he had a bad season and fell, largely due to his line -- he was sacked 35 times.

Skip Towne
04-24-2005, 03:03 PM
At least he won't have a very long drive home when he gets cut.

ChiefsCountry
04-24-2005, 03:05 PM
He will be cheaper than Huard, just holding the clipboard. Not that bad of a pick. Today's draft might not have gotten the stars but we have had some solid picks.

wazu
04-24-2005, 03:06 PM
It's okay, Carl. We forgive you. See how nice we can be when you bring in quality free agents, make good trades, and draft well on Day 1?

Hog Rider
04-24-2005, 03:06 PM
"Kilian in Red" That works doesn't it?

Ultra Peanut
04-24-2005, 03:08 PM
According to the stuff I'm reading, this guy would have been a late-round value had his senior season been better.

However, he had a bad season and fell, largely due to his line -- he was sacked 35 times.Ouch.

Count Zarth
04-24-2005, 03:08 PM
It's okay, Carl. We forgive you. See how nice we can be when you bring in quality free agents, make good trades, and draft well on Day 1?

Yeah. Carl has done all he can. It's up to the players and coaches now.

NaptownChief
04-24-2005, 03:09 PM
If we were going to gamble on a good athlete that makes poor decisons and dosn't protect the ball I would have prefered Chris Rix...

Bwana
04-24-2005, 03:10 PM
Keep f*cken doubting JAMES KILIAN.

DaKCMan AP
04-24-2005, 03:11 PM
If we were going to gamble on a good athlete that makes poor decisons and dosn't protect the ball I would have prefered Chris Rix...

NO way. It would have ruined the whole draft if we took that piece of dogshit.

NaptownChief
04-24-2005, 03:11 PM
Sonnie Cumbie is another I would have rather gambled on...Maybe even sorry old Brock Berlin for that matter.

Ultra Peanut
04-24-2005, 03:12 PM
If we were going to gamble on a good athlete that makes poor decisons and dosn't protect the ball I would have prefered Chris Rix...Yuck. At least Kilian can throw around some sort of, "My teammates all suck, this team was terrible, I did all I could," excuse.

eazyb81
04-24-2005, 03:13 PM
I can't believe we passed on Gino Giudugli for this guy....

I haven't seen him in one top 25 QB prospect list, hopefully CP and Saunders see something in him.

Straight, No Chaser
04-24-2005, 03:14 PM
Really... will this guy ever get to sniff any live action?

By looking at his photo either his skull didn't recieve any steriods or his neck needs shrinking.

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Frankie
04-24-2005, 03:14 PM
If we were going to gamble on a good athlete that makes poor decisons and dosn't protect the ball I would have prefered Chris Rix...
Isn't Rix a head case?

NaptownChief
04-24-2005, 03:15 PM
Timmy Chang?

I don't have much use for guys who throw more INT's than TD's at the college level...Christ, if college level defenses are confusing you, you have no chance at the NFL level.

Ultra Peanut
04-24-2005, 03:18 PM
I can't believe we passed on Gino Giudugli for this guy....

I haven't seen him in one top 25 QB prospect list, hopefully CP and Saunders see something in him.I'd have rather had Giudugli, as well...

Okay, not really. I still hate his drunk ass for 4th and 27, and that was three-and-a-half years and two bowl appearances ago.