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Coach
04-24-2005, 11:27 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7619477/

The whole thing is quite long, but I'll post the AFC West teams.

KANSAS CITY - The Chiefs made only one pick until late in the third round but still gave their defense a major shot in the arm by landing Texas' playmaking middle linebacker Derrick Johnson at No. 15 when he was considered by most to be a top-10 pick. Then they got the best player in Round 2 by trading that pick to the Dolphins the day before the draft for cornerback Patrick Surtain, who is among the half dozen best corners in the league. The Chiefs have been haunted for several years by a defense that gave up yardage in chunks and points far too quickly. To reach the playoffs, they needed to fix the problem and they took a large step in that direction and landed in Surtain something you can't draft: a verifiably proven commodity.

OAKLAND - Very solid B, and that took some good maneuvering because the Raiders had no pick in the first round until they conned the Jets into taking veteran tight end Doug Jolley in exchange for their No. 1. That got Oakland back in play and they used that pick to take ultra-fast corner Fabian Washington to give them back the speed they lost trading Philip Buchanon to Houston. They grabbed another corner in Stanford Routt in Round 2, giving them two young bodies at a position where they also may lose Charles Woodson in a year if not sooner. Developmental quarterback Andrew Walter in the third round has upside and young linebacker in Kirk Morrison may eventually replace departed Napolean Harris. All and all, a good day's work.

SAN DIEGO - The Chargers wanted a wide receiver and a defensive player with their two first-round picks but settled on defensive line help first and grabbed Shawne Merriman in the first round and Luis Castillo on the second. Castillo tested positive for steroids at the combine but admitted he'd made a mistake. Apparently the Chargers didn't feel it was a serious breach. They then got the wide receiver help they were hoping for in the second round when they took Vincent Jackson about 10 picks later than the top 100 board had him ranked. If Merriman gives them the pass rush they've been lacking and Castillo some push from the interior, it was a good day, but that's no lock. C+

DENVER - The Broncos were the epitome of incomplete after trading their No. 1 this year to the Redskins for a third this draft and a one and four next year. Much of the success of this draft will hinge on what they do next year because all they got Saturday was Darrent Williams in the second round, defensive back Karl Paymah in Round 3 and mystery man Maurice Clarett with the last pick in the third round. If Clarett returns to his freshman form at Ohio State running behind Denver's highly successful running game this elevates the Broncos but at the moment it's inconclusive whether they hurt themselves. Incomplete.

Gravedigger
04-24-2005, 11:29 PM
That's how you grade a draft

ChiefsCountry
04-24-2005, 11:30 PM
Colquitt is going to be a star, didn't even get menionted.

Pants
04-24-2005, 11:31 PM
Somebody email this to Prisco.

ChiefsCountry
04-24-2005, 11:32 PM
Oakland did Raiders in the first 2 rounds but after that they did a pretty good job.

Merril Hoge
04-24-2005, 11:32 PM
Somebody email this to Prisco.

Who do you think knows better? A highly-seasoned, well-trained analyst like Prisco (or me), or some clown from MSNBC?

Pants
04-24-2005, 11:34 PM
Who do you think knows better? A highly-seasoned, well-trained analyst like Prisco (or me), or some clown from MSNBC?

lol, I never got the email.

I wanna rep your real nick, who are you?

beer bacon
04-24-2005, 11:35 PM
Neither of the Raiders first two selections earned being picked in the rounds they were drafted in. On the other hand Merriman and Vincent Jackson were both very good picks. Castillo was a good pick too, but the pick rubbed me the wrong way because of his admitted steroid use.

I would switch the grades he gave to the Raiders and San Diego.

royr17
04-24-2005, 11:49 PM
Who do you think knows better? A highly-seasoned, well-trained analyst like Prisco (or me), or some clown from MSNBC?

Actually Gil Brandt knows better.

|Zach|
04-25-2005, 12:02 AM
Actually Gil Brandt knows better.
ROFL

Sean Salisbury
04-25-2005, 12:07 AM
I know better than either of those dumbasses.

Pants
04-25-2005, 12:10 AM
I know better than either of those dumbasses.

LOL, how did YOU find out about this place. BTW, Clayton owns you like the proverbial little hoe.

Sean Salisbury
04-25-2005, 12:11 AM
LOL, how did YOU find out about this place. BTW, Clayton owns you like the proverbial little hoe.

John Clayton's just a geeky kid with glasses who never played a down of football in his life. Right, Merril?

Merril Hoge
04-25-2005, 12:12 AM
John Clayton's just a geeky kid with glasses who never played a down of football in his life. Right, Merril?

Absolutely. Derrick Johnson could probably tackle a guy like John Clayton.

Pants
04-25-2005, 12:12 AM
John Clayton's just a geeky kid with glasses who never played a down of football in his life. Right, Merril?

ROFL @ the sig.

Sean Salisbury
04-25-2005, 12:14 AM
Absolutely. Derrick Johnson could probably tackle a guy like John Clayton.

Yeah, yeah. And Mike Williams is a 4th round pick. I'm not Mel Kiper, Jr., so you can just drop it, spanky.

Coach
04-25-2005, 09:17 AM
John Clayton's just a geeky kid with glasses who never played a down of football in his life. Right, Merril?

Clayton > Salisbury

ROFL

C-Mac
04-25-2005, 09:36 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7619477/

DENVER - ........ Incomplete.

ROFL ROFL ROFL

Not even worthy of a grade!

htismaqe
04-25-2005, 10:49 AM
Actually Gil Brandt knows better.

ROFL

I guess the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree.

Kinda like your Dad posting that article from Gil Brandt that he wrote prior to last year's draft rating Key Fox and Rich Scanlon ahead of the eventual DEFENSIVE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR Jonathon Vilma and DJ Williams.

Even the great Gil Brandt is wrong, and lately he's been VERY WRONG.

Amnorix
04-25-2005, 10:54 AM
Hey, nothing personal, but seriously -- Ron Borges is a writer for the Boston Globe, and his football knowledge is utterly pathetic.

I think the Chiefs had a pretty good draft, but I wouldn't cite Borges for anything.

BigChiefFan
04-25-2005, 11:03 AM
Hey, nothing personal, but seriously -- Ron Borges is a writer for the Boston Globe, and his football knowledge is utterly pathetic.

I think the Chiefs had a pretty good draft, but I wouldn't cite Borges for anything.
It's just another person's opinion about our draft. It's not like we are hanging on every word a writer says, but it's nice for a change to actually see some give us props for a good draft. Quit trying to piss on our parade.