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tk13
04-26-2005, 02:18 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/nfl/kansas_city_chiefs/11487901.htm

Chiefs find the Boomer that they sorely lacked

JOE POSNANSKI


Here's a little Chiefs fan advice: You might want to beat the Christmas rush and go get your Boomer Grigsby jersey right now. The Boomer right now is listed as No. 95 on the Chiefs, but the number doesn't really matter. You just have to put the word “Boomer” on the back. Before long, everyone will know who you are talking about.

The Chiefs really, really needed a Boomer. In fact, that was probably their No. 1 need going into the weekend's NFL draft. Those pre-draft stories should have listed the Chiefs' needs like so: Linebacker, cornerback, wide receiver, punter, boomer. The last three years, the Chiefs played football with the treble way up and the bass way down — you couldn't hear any booms. It was acoustic football. It was pigskin unplugged. The Chiefs were getting run over. They were softer rock than Dan Fogelberg.

They went into this draft needing to add some muscle, some power.

And in the fog of the fifth round, they found a Boomer.

“I've been Boomer since the day I was born,” Boomer Grigsby says. “I guess I was a little bit wider than tall. And then the name just fit me, you know. The football. The tattoos. The gorilla muscles. The little wild-man attitude. Boomer, man.”

Boomer, man.

I'm not telling you that Boomer Grigsby, a fifth-round pick out of Illinois State, a linebacker who made a ridiculous 580 tackles there, a three-time finalist for the Buck Buchanan award (given to the best defensive player in Division I-AA), is going to turn around the Chiefs' defense. He's not likely to even play defense this year.

No, I'm telling you this: Boomer Grigsby is about to become Kansas City's favorite football player.

He has the perfect football story. He's a small-town Midwesterner, born and raised in Canton, Ill., pop. 14,000. He was barely recruited out of high school — an Illinois State recruiter happened to see him working out in the weight room and started to call Boomer every week. Nobody else called. The Boomer didn't know that you are allowed to send other colleges your tape and resume. He says when Illinois State called to offer him a scholarship, he thanked the coach, said he'd think about it, and then went to school.

“You didn't commit?” his Canton High coach asked.

“No,” Boomer said.

“Are you crazy?” the coach asked. “What if they take it back?”

So the Boomer skipped first period to call Illinois State to take the scholarship.

“I don't have any regrets,” he says. “It worked out great for me. But, man, I was naïve then. I was just dumb.”

At Illinois State, Boomer exploded. He was utterly unblockable. The Boomer is strong (he benches 460 pounds) and fast (he's run a 4.52 40-yard dash), and he picked up all sorts of agility because his mother runs a trampoline team — yeah, a trampoline team. The Boomer is a trampoline champ. Anyway, he led Illinois State in tackles right away in his freshman year. In his junior year, the Boomer made 179 tackles, second in the nation. He made 21 tackles against Illinois in front of 60,000 people.

“They didn't recruit me,” he says. “It felt good to rock their world.”

The Boomer just loved playing football, getting in people's grills, fighting off blockers — and teams sent swarms of blockers at him. He set the school record for tackles. He was picked for another All-America team every other day. In the East-West Shrine Game he forced a fumble as part of the kickoff team. Here's how he described that moment to a reporter after the game:

“I realized that their wedge was all offensive linemen. and they were all about 330 (pounds),” he said. “I just went in there and hit them as hard as I could. There was a massive collision. I think I broke part of my helmet and mouth guards were flying everywhere.”

“Man,” he says now, “it feels good to be in the middle of the hitting.”

Oh yeah, Kansas City is going to love the Boomer as much as he loves Kansas City. And he does love Kansas City. He says that he was watching the draft alone — “To me, having a draft party, that's just ignorant,” he says. “I mean if you get drafted it's fine, but what if you don't? Then you're just sitting there looking at each other going, ‘OK, now what do we do? Play cards?' ”

And when he was picked by the Chiefs in the fifth round, he looked out the window and saw 40 family members — including his aunt and uncle who live in Kansas City — running down the street. “Man, that was some sight,” he says. “When they got to me, they were too tired to drink the champagne.”

Yeah, he's excited. He can't wait to get here. He can't wait to get on special teams, do some hitting, do some blocking for Dante Hall.

“I just want to be on the field with him, man, and hit anybody that gets close to him,” he says. “And then I can watch him run into the end zone, and I'll go ‘Whoo! He'll be the hero. But I'll still be able to go ‘Whoo!' ”

He can't wait to meet Chiefs first-round pick Derrick Johnson.

“He was the best linebacker in the country,” Boomer says. “And I'll say that to his face. I'm comfortable enough in my masculinity to go up to him and say, ‘Man, you're the real deal.' ”

He can't wait to be a part of the team.

“I hope someone will take me under their wing,” he says. “But even if they don't, I'll be able to watch them and learn.”

Basically, he can't wait. The NFL is a tough league – it's not easy for fifth-round picks to make a team, make a contribution. But you get the feeling that the Chiefs need a whole lot of Boomer.

And it's fair to say this guy is a whole lot of Boomer.

“I always meet people who say, ‘Come on, tell me your real name,' ” the Boomer says. “I say, that's my name. And they say, ‘Well, I'm not going to call you that,' and I say, ‘Well, then you're not going to talk to me.'

“I mean, come on, calm down. Look at me, I play football. Call me Boomer. It's not like I'm asking people to call me call ‘Your highness,' or ‘King.' ”

Good thing, too. Those names are already part of Carl Peterson's official title.

beer bacon
04-26-2005, 02:24 AM
****ing shit, 21 tackles against Illinois? This guy makes me want to run through a ****ing wall.

ENDelt260
04-26-2005, 02:24 AM
Poz didn't waste any time jumping all over this kid.

tk13
04-26-2005, 02:28 AM
ROFL He is quite a hoot. I'm laughing out loud at parts of it. The UWRF people in training camp should interview him everyday, it would be the most entertaining thing ever.

mcan
04-26-2005, 02:29 AM
JoPo,

I know it's all harmless fun, but why the completely unnessecary dig on Carl at the end? Just makes you sound like you're trying to get popularity points by picking on the kid who's the easy target, because everybody picks on him. Not cool man...

Priestgets30TDs
04-26-2005, 02:31 AM
Crazy white kid!

ENDelt260
04-26-2005, 02:32 AM
I know it's all harmless fun, but why the completely unnessecary dig on Carl at the end?

You answered your own question.

Wallcrawler
04-26-2005, 02:42 AM
Ill tell you what, this guy sounds friggin awesome.

Attacking a wedge at full speed made up of all O-linemen?!!?!!! That right there is awesome. No freakin fear.

This guy is going to be awesome on special teams, at the very least, if he dont take someone's job at linebacker. It will be good to see someone with a pair of balls running down there actually trying to make a play besides Gary Stills. Most of our coverage teams look like they dont want any part of the contact.

You know Dante has to be loving what he said about just wanting to be on the field with him, and hitting anyone who gets close to him. Then when he scores, he'll go "Whoo!" Dante will be the hero, but he will still go "Whoo!"

You gotta love those guys that just live to make that big hit on someone. The more I read about this guy, the more I love this pick.


I like that he was in the 5th round. Chiefs get some good players in the later rounds. Fujita was 5th round, Allen was 4th, this Boomer Grigsby could be one of the best additions to the team.

21 tackles against Illinois. Holy Jesus. Ive never even heard of someone going off on a team like that. Not even on a videogame....

Gunther is going to love this guy, thats for sure.

Sign me up for a Boomer jersey.

Rain Man
04-26-2005, 02:43 AM
Is it time for training camp yet?

Fairplay
04-26-2005, 04:52 AM
I don't want to rain on anyones parade here or sound pessimestic.
However Boomer will be stepping into a whole new level of play.

The teams that he played against in his last year were:

St. Xavier
Minnesota
Eastern Illinois
Florida Atlantic
Western Illinois
Youngstown State
Western Kentucky
Southern Illinois
Northern Iowa

Obviously these teams are the minor league of college football.
Its one thing to play in that level of competition but to jump to the pros, all i can say is i wish him the best and i hope he makes it.

But don't let it surprise you or get in a state of shock if he gets cut.

Bob Dole
04-26-2005, 04:59 AM
The Boomer goes woo WOOOOO.

Saggysack
04-26-2005, 05:01 AM
I don't think I have ever seen so much hype about a DII 5th round prospect. All this hype has got me kinda boomed out.

Cochise
04-26-2005, 05:05 AM
I believe we have this year's Joe Hall.

Anyway, good luck to him. Maybe a good year on special teams and some time to develop in NFLE, and we could have something. Seems like someone who just wants to play football and do it 100mph. Good luck in the NFL

BigRedChief
04-26-2005, 06:14 AM
But don't let it surprise you or get in a state of shock if he gets cut.

I know but so what its just good to hear a player albeir a "potential" Chief player talking about getting in someones grill, knocking their mouthpirce out. We need that attitude.

KevB
04-26-2005, 06:56 AM
I don't want to rain on anyones parade here or sound pessimestic.
However Boomer will be stepping into a whole new level of play.

The teams that he played against in his last year were:

St. Xavier
Minnesota
Eastern Illinois
Florida Atlantic
Western Illinois
Youngstown State
Western Kentucky
Southern Illinois
Northern Iowa

Obviously these teams are the minor league of college football.
Its one thing to play in that level of competition but to jump to the pros, all i can say is i wish him the best and i hope he makes it.

But don't let it surprise you or get in a state of shock if he gets cut.

I'm thinking that's the type of lineup you could have rolled out in describing Jared Allen last year.

Look, the only expectations on this kid right now is that he play hard and fast on special teams, and by the looks and sounds of it, he's perfect in that role. If he can't be a backup LB, we'll throw him on the PS and continue to develop those skills.

siberian khatru
04-26-2005, 07:09 AM
I want to have his children.

Merril Hoge
04-26-2005, 07:17 AM
Now here's a kid who can tackle.

cookster50
04-26-2005, 07:50 AM
Hopefully his attitude spreads. I was busting up laughing at some of his comments. Bring on the crazy country white boy!!

KChiefs1
04-26-2005, 07:59 AM
“He was the best linebacker in the country,” Boomer says. “And I'll say that to his face. I'm comfortable enough in my masculinity to go up to him and say, ‘Man, you're the real deal.' ”

I'm glad he's comfortable with his masulinity! ROFL

C-Mac
04-26-2005, 08:02 AM
[url]— “To me, having a draft party, that's just ignorant,” he says. “I mean if you get drafted it's fine, but what if you don't? Then you're just sitting there looking at each other going, ‘OK, now what do we do? Play cards?' ”

And when he was picked by the Chiefs in the fifth round, he looked out the window and saw 40 family members — including his aunt and uncle who live in Kansas City — running down the street. “Man, that was some sight,” he says. “When they got to me, they were too tired to drink the champagne.”

ROFL

Nice job again JoPo :thumb:

Skip Towne
04-26-2005, 08:07 AM
I hope this guy doesn't hurt anybody in TC.

redbrian
04-26-2005, 08:40 AM
"The Boomer is a trampoline champ."

That has got to be something to see, the guy must have body control that is unreal.

Coach
04-26-2005, 08:46 AM
Boomer = The Next Maz + with speed.

Boomer seems exactly like Maz, only this one has more athletic and speed. Other than that, they both seem to have the same qualities. And remember, Maz came from a very small school, worked his butt off in NFLE and ST all the way up to a starting job in MLB. Plus, Maz was also a fan favorate.

If all things work out the best for Boomer, then we got ourselves one hell of a future with this kid.

HC_Chief
04-26-2005, 08:47 AM
We drafted the real life "water boy"... with muscles. :D

KCTitus
04-26-2005, 08:47 AM
...and I'll go ‘Whoo! He'll be the hero. But I'll still be able to go ‘Whoo!' "

LOL...

Chief Faithful
04-26-2005, 08:50 AM
Boomer seems to have that big infectious attitude the Chiefs so sorely missed. This guy could become a media and fan favorite.

Chief Henry
04-26-2005, 08:54 AM
The is a combo between Tim Dwight and Matt Roth.

Bwana
04-26-2005, 08:57 AM
This guy is going to make training camp fun.

ROYC75
04-26-2005, 09:05 AM
I don't want to rain on anyones parade here or sound pessimestic.
However Boomer will be stepping into a whole new level of play.

The teams that he played against in his last year were:

St. Xavier
Minnesota
Eastern Illinois
Florida Atlantic
Western Illinois
Youngstown State
Western Kentucky
Southern Illinois
Northern Iowa

Obviously these teams are the minor league of college football.
Its one thing to play in that level of competition but to jump to the pros, all i can say is i wish him the best and i hope he makes it.

But don't let it surprise you or get in a state of shock if he gets cut.


Agreed....... He might of been the top talent in a very soft schedule. Kinda like if we took Mark M ( 98# dripping wet ) and made him MLB in a game of 7-8 year old kids.Think about this, 580 tackles in Div.II ? He was in the wrong division of talent

Regardless, the kid does seem to have Mad Maz like fire with a good set of wheels.

It's going to be a competitive camp to say the least.

Gaz
04-26-2005, 09:13 AM
The guy has a great ‘tude.

xoxo~
Gaz
Hopes Boomer gets to escort Dante into the end zone.

Baby Lee
04-26-2005, 09:22 AM
I think I broke part of my helmet
Tears literally leapt from my eyes. That is too farging cool.

Warrior5
04-26-2005, 09:28 AM
The Boomer goes woo WOOOOO.

Uh no; that's a Grayder thing.


Grigsby just says "WHOOO". Carry on.



...had to clear that up.

Warrior5
04-26-2005, 09:33 AM
“I realized that their wedge was all offensive linemen. and they were all about 330 (pounds),” he said. “I just went in there and hit them as hard as I could. There was a massive collision. I think I broke part of my helmet and mouth guards were flying everywhere.”

“Man,” he says now, “it feels good to be in the middle of the hitting.”


Music to my ears. Pigskin Poetry. I'm at a loss for words...


...can make it through the day now.

Coach
04-26-2005, 09:34 AM
From KFFL.

Chiefs | Grigsby Slated for Backup Role - from www.KFFL.com Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:39:27 -0700 KCChiefs.com reports Kansas City Chiefs LB Boomer Grigsby, one of the team's 2005 fifth-round draft picks, is expected to compete for a backup linebacking role this season in addition to working on special teams, according to head coach Dick Vermeil.

whoman69
04-26-2005, 09:40 AM
I heard the same thing when we got Kawika "the Rocket Man" Mitchell. They said we'd fall in love with the way he plays football. If that's love, I guess its true you only hurt the one you love. I will wait for him to prove it on the field.

jAZ
04-26-2005, 09:44 AM
I can't believe a sure-fire #1 pick overall slipped all the way to us in the 5th round!

PBJ

jcroft
04-26-2005, 09:44 AM
The Boomer goes woo WOOOOO.

ROFL ROFL ROFL

Thas' only in da mornin'. Youa 'possed to be up cookin' breakfas' for somebody by then.

jcroft
04-26-2005, 09:46 AM
I'm glad he's comfortable with his masulinity! ROFL

Yeah. Maybe it'll rub off on some of the small-penised homophobes running around this place. :D

Donger
04-26-2005, 09:47 AM
Forgive my ignorance here, but there's a possibility that this kid may not make the defense? If so, why did we draft him?

They'll evaluate him at training camp, and then decide if and when he starts?

jcroft
04-26-2005, 09:47 AM
Seriously, this guy is too much fun. I have no idea what to expect from him on the field, but I want him to make the team just so I can keep getting these quotes in the paper, man. I loved the part about the draft party. "What are we gonna do now? Play cards?" Haha.

jcroft
04-26-2005, 09:49 AM
Forgive my ignorance here, but there's a possibility that this kid may not make the defense? If so, why did we draft him?

They'll evaluate him at training camp, and then decide if and when he starts?

Umm, I think there's a possibility every fifth rounder taken by ANY team might not make the team. I would say after the third round, all bets are off on making the team. Late rounders are generally projects that often don't make the team in their first year. If they do, great, but I don't think anyone expects it.

dtebbe
04-26-2005, 09:50 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/nfl/kansas_city_chiefs/11487901.htm

Chiefs find the Boomer that they sorely lacked


“I just want to be on the field with him, man, and hit anybody that gets close to him,” he says. “And then I can watch him run into the end zone, and I'll go ‘Whoo! He'll be the hero. But I'll still be able to go ‘Whoo!' ”

OK, he's already my favorite!

DT

CosmicPal
04-26-2005, 09:52 AM
I don't want to rain on anyones parade here or sound pessimestic.
However Boomer will be stepping into a whole new level of play.

The teams that he played against in his last year were:

St. Xavier
Minnesota
Eastern Illinois
Florida Atlantic
Western Illinois
Youngstown State
Western Kentucky
Southern Illinois
Northern Iowa

Obviously these teams are the minor league of college football.
Its one thing to play in that level of competition but to jump to the pros, all i can say is i wish him the best and i hope he makes it.

But don't let it surprise you or get in a state of shock if he gets cut.

Same type of teams Jared Allen played against and he was able to make the transition to the NFL.

Boomer is a FOOTBALL PLAYER. I don't care who you played against, the fact that he made over 500 tackles against the entire offensive line trying to block you says a lot about a player's instincts and drive to get to the ball. He WANTS to play ball. I don't think he'll be happy on the sidelines for he'll be like a caged tiger pacing around the sidelines trying to get into the game. I don't think he's just going to saunter into playing time- he's going to prove to every single player and coaching staff that he can HIT and that he's here to stay. And you know what- he'd probably play the NFL on peanuts alone and still kick azz.

Not to mention, the guy could bench press what 400lbs and runs a 4.5?? If he was in a big time program- he'd still make at 400 tackles and still have the same attitude. He has the speed and the strength to play in the NFL- it will all depend upon his learning curve. They said the same thing about Jared Allen last year, and look what happened.

I hope Boomer makes it- I love the idea of Derrick Johnson, Jared Allen, and Boomer all being a part of our defense for the next five or so years. It's going to be electric!

Donger
04-26-2005, 09:52 AM
Umm, I think there's a possibility every fifth rounder taken by ANY team might not make the team. I would say after the third round, all bets are off on making the team. Late rounders are generally projects that often don't make the team in their first year. If they do, great, but I don't think anyone expects it.

Like I said, forgive my ignorance. This was the first draft to which I've ever paid any attention.

Thank you for the answer.

dtebbe
04-26-2005, 09:54 AM
This guy is going to make training camp fun.

Yep, $5 says he will be part of a fight story before camp is over. Probably right after he knocks someones panties up between thier ears.

DT

jcroft
04-26-2005, 09:57 AM
Yep, $5 says he will be part of a fight story before camp is over. Probably right after he knocks someones panties up between thier ears.

DT

As long as he doesn't take off a dude's helmet and bash his face with it, I'm down.

Coach
04-26-2005, 09:59 AM
Umm, I think there's a possibility every fifth rounder taken by ANY team might not make the team. I would say after the third round, all bets are off on making the team. Late rounders are generally projects that often don't make the team in their first year. If they do, great, but I don't think anyone expects it.

*cough*

Jared Allen
Derrick Blaylock
Dante Hall
Shaunard Harts
Scott Fujita
Jordan Black

*cough*

It seems to me that our track record for day 2 draft picks is a hit than a miss for the most part.

Skip Towne
04-26-2005, 10:03 AM
There are some guys even DV can't keep off the field. I hope Boomer is one of them.

jcroft
04-26-2005, 10:08 AM
*cough*

Jared Allen
Derrick Blaylock
Dante Hall
Shaunard Harts
Scott Fujita
Jordan Black

*cough*

It seems to me that our track record for day 2 draft picks is a hit than a miss for the most part.

Yeah, you completely missed my point, or maybe didn't read my post at all. yes, there are plenty of late rounders who make the team EVENTUALLY (some of these didn't make it their first year). Yes, there are a handful that make it their first year. But it should not be expected. Sure, we can all hope to find another Jared Allen in the late rounds -- but EXPECTING to is asking too much.

Keep coughing, I'll keep cupping your balls.

Gravedigger
04-26-2005, 10:09 AM
Yeah, he's excited. He can't wait to get here. He can't wait to get on special teams, do some hitting, do some blocking for Dante Hall.

“I just want to be on the field with him, man, and hit anybody that gets close to him,” he says. “And then I can watch him run into the end zone, and I'll go ‘Whoo! He'll be the hero. But I'll still be able to go ‘Whoo!' ”

This quote is classic

tyton75
04-26-2005, 10:25 AM
I would love to see what this kid could do in Okalahoma drills against one of our top flight lineman...

I'm guessing he would get his @ss handed to him but I'm also bettting he wouldnt' wanna quit until he beat him and got the tackle..

He's a football version of Jake LaMotta... "you never got me down Ray..."

Mr. Laz
04-26-2005, 10:31 AM
Boomer = The Next Maz + with speed.

Boomer seems exactly like Maz, only this one has more athletic and speed. Other than that, they both seem to have the same qualities. And remember, Maz came from a very small school, worked his butt off in NFLE and ST all the way up to a starting job in MLB. Plus, Maz was also a fan favorate.

If all things work out the best for Boomer, then we got ourselves one hell of a future with this kid.

i was thinking the same thing ... we need a lunch pail tackling machine in the middle. Nothing would be better than to have this guy be good enough to win the starting just job in the middle.


Derrick Johnson - Boomer Grigsby - Kendrell Bell


imo johnson is a more natural weakside guy and i want Bell on the outside were he can blitz alot.


:thumb:


Go Boomer!! :D

Mr. Laz
04-26-2005, 10:33 AM
JoPo,

I know it's all harmless fun, but why the completely unnessecary dig on Carl at the end? Just makes you sound like you're trying to get popularity points by picking on the kid who's the easy target, because everybody picks on him. Not cool man...
oh shut up


bleeding mangina

jcroft
04-26-2005, 10:37 AM
i was thinking the same thing ... we need a lunch pail tackling machine in the middle. Nothing would be better than to have this guy be good enough to win the starting just job in the middle.


Derrick Johnson - Boomer Grigsby - Kendrell Bell


imo johnson is a more natural weakside guy and i want Bell on the outside were he can blitz alot.


:thumb:


Go Boomer!! :D

That would be incredible. I wouldn't expect it this year, but if he could get to that point in a year or two, we could have insane linebackers.

Nzoner
04-26-2005, 10:39 AM
Everytime I read a quote or more about this kid I keep picturing Joe Bob from North Dallas Forty,drinkin' and cow hunting.

SNR
04-26-2005, 10:43 AM
Vermeil said Bell might play OLB

For years to come- Johnson, Boomer, Bell

It's a dream.

Mr. Laz
04-26-2005, 10:45 AM
That would be incredible. I wouldn't expect it this year, but if he could get to that point in a year or two, we could have insane linebackers.
oh, i don't know .... it's happened before

==============================
54 Zach Thomas
Position: LB
Ht: 5-11 Wt: 230
Born: 09/01/1973
College: Texas Tech
NFL Experience: 10
Fifth-round draft choice (154th overall) in 1996

Rookie year:

Year Team Gm Tot Tckl Ast Scks Int Yds Avg Lg TD Pass Def
1996 Miami 16 155 120 _35 _02 _ 03_64_21.3 27 01 _ 02

==============================
JAMES "Boomer" GRIGSBY
Position LB
Ht: 5-11 Wt: 249
Birthdate 11/15/1981
College: Illinois State
Years Experience R
Fifth-round draft choice (138th overall) in 2005

rookie year

????

jcroft
04-26-2005, 10:50 AM
oh, i don't know .... it's happened before

==============================
54 Zach Thomas


Well, I like your optimism, anyway. :)

DaneMcCloud
04-26-2005, 11:04 AM
Jcroft,

Sorry to burst YOUR bubble, but the majority of NFL teams are made up of 3rd - 7th rounders, not first rounders! There is an endless list of 3rd-7th round Pro Bowl players in the past 10 years (especially since reducing the draft from 12 rounds to only 7), far more than the list of 1 & 2 round talents.

In addition, Illinios State is NOT Division II - It's NCAA Division I-AA. That's a HUGE difference in talent and if you'll notice, the list of teams that ISU played last year includes I-A schools, including Minnesota, who went to a bowl game.

The bottom line here is that the Chiefs got a FOOTBALL player who didn't face the upper echelon of talent in the college every week but obviously has the skills, desires and attitude to become a solid if not spectaclur LB in the NFL. I'm just glad the Chiefs grabbed this kid because as JoPo said, he brings something that's been sorely lacking on Chiefs teams of the past several years.

Dane
~Still elated with the 2005 draft

Coach
04-26-2005, 11:06 AM
Everytime I read a quote or more about this kid I keep picturing Joe Bob from North Dallas Forty,drinkin' and cow hunting.

Sounds like Bwana's new best friend there. :p

jcroft
04-26-2005, 11:08 AM
Jcroft,

Sorry to burst YOUR bubble, but the majority of NFL teams are made up of 3rd - 7th rounders, not first rounders! There is an endless list of 3rd-7th round Pro Bowl players in the past 10 years (especially since reducing the draft from 12 rounds to only 7), far more than the list of 1 & 2 round talents.

In addition, Illinios State is NOT Division II - It's NCAA Division I-AA. That's a HUGE difference in talent and if you'll notice, the list of teams that ISU played last year includes I-A schools, including Minnesota, who went to a bowl game.

The bottom line here is that the Chiefs got a FOOTBALL player who didn't face the upper echelon of talent in the college every week but obviously has the skills, desires and attitude to become a solid if not spectaclur LB in the NFL. I'm just glad the Chiefs grabbed this kid because as JoPo said, he brings something that's been sorely lacking on Chiefs teams of the past several years.

Dane
~Still elated with the 2005 draft

Dane-

You, too, missed my point.

* My main point was that most 5th-7th rounders don't make the team <strong>THEIR FIRST YEAR.</strong>

* I also <strong>NEVER said anything about Illinois State being D-II.</strong> Where the **** did you get that from? Stop putting words in my mouth.

* <strong>I LOVE the Boomer pick.</strong> I'm excited about him, and I think he'll make the team this year. I just think that's the exception, not the rule.

Is that clear enough for you this time? Jesus, you people don't read. I just LOVE how you made this into a "I don't like the Boomer pick" thing, when i've been going on and on about how great he sounds in Sunday. Pay attention, ****ers.

CosmicPal
04-26-2005, 11:11 AM
I long for the day when Boomer meets Maurice Clarett in the backfield on his first run in Arrowhead stadium. The sound of that contact will be sickening.

I have some money that says Maurice will be seeing a half dozen donkeys circling his head and will be carried off the field by a stretcher and put in a rest home where he spends his days staring out the window and keeps mumbling over and over, "Boom...boom....boom...boom." No amount of medication or attention will draw him back to reality.

CoMoChief
04-26-2005, 11:13 AM
Alot of times, it doesnt matter that the teams you play often predict whether youre gonna be a good player or not. He may have not have played top D-1 schools, but he was still good enough to go to a college to play ball. People didnt recruit him because he didnt send out anything to anyone. Boomer isnt that tall, but he's faster and has more center of gravity (which improves agility) than Derrick Johnson. The guy is a workaholic, a warrior in the weight room. He loves to hit people. The only other Chief that loves to hit people is Greg Wesley, sometimes Woods. We need a LB that loves to get in the middle of things and rough people up. I hope to god Boomer some how gets some playing time at LB this year. Maybe backup Bell or something, give him a breather. This guy is going to be a stud

CoMoChief
04-26-2005, 11:15 AM
All that being said, this guy is a football player. A hard nosed, blue collared, workout stud, hard hitting football player, which is what Gunther, and every other Chief needs.

Calcountry
04-26-2005, 11:20 AM
Ill tell you what, this guy sounds friggin awesome.

Attacking a wedge at full speed made up of all O-linemen?!!?!!! That right there is awesome. No freakin fear.

This guy is going to be awesome on special teams, at the very least, if he dont take someone's job at linebacker. It will be good to see someone with a pair of balls running down there actually trying to make a play besides Gary Stills. Most of our coverage teams look like they dont want any part of the contact.

You know Dante has to be loving what he said about just wanting to be on the field with him, and hitting anyone who gets close to him. Then when he scores, he'll go "Whoo!" Dante will be the hero, but he will still go "Whoo!"

You gotta love those guys that just live to make that big hit on someone. The more I read about this guy, the more I love this pick.


I like that he was in the 5th round. Chiefs get some good players in the later rounds. Fujita was 5th round, Allen was 4th, this Boomer Grigsby could be one of the best additions to the team.

21 tackles against Illinois. Holy Jesus. Ive never even heard of someone going off on a team like that. Not even on a videogame....

Gunther is going to love this guy, thats for sure.

Sign me up for a Boomer jersey.No, there was that guy "Jefferson", from "Fast Times at Ridgemont High".

JohnnyV13
04-26-2005, 11:59 AM
21 tackles against Illinois. Holy Jesus. Ive never even heard of someone going off on a team like that. Not even on a videogame....


.

Sure you have....

His name is Kwicka Mitchell and he had, I believe, 22 tackles against Oklahoma. This performance was one of the reasons Carl cited for drafting him.

DaneMcCloud
04-26-2005, 12:09 PM
Jcroft,

Someone else stated it was DII, not you. Also, in today's NFL, 5-7 rounders must make the team in their first year. Go and look at any NFL roster (especially the Patriots, Eagles and Ravens) and you'll see plenty of late round picks.

I didn't say you didn't like the pick. I'm debating your stated fact that 5-7th rounders don't make the team in their first year even though on just the Chiefs team alone I can count off the top of my head Fujita, Harts, Pyle, Black and Sampson, not to mention UDFA's like Hicks, Smith and Sapp.

Dane

Uncle_Ted
04-26-2005, 12:12 PM
The only other Chief that loves to hit people is Greg Wesley, sometimes Woods.

Where's Merrill Hoge when you need him?

(for those that don't remember, Merrill showed some tape of the Chiefs D and called out Woods for being afraid to come up and hit last year)

Mr. Laz
04-26-2005, 12:14 PM
Where's Merrill Hoge when you need him?

(for those that don't remember, Merrill showed some tape of the Chiefs D and called out Woods for being afraid to come up and hit last year)
a big part of the problem with our defense for the last 5 years has been bad tackling.

alot of that bad tackling is a result of the players failing to commit themselves to tackle.

Our secondary tackles like it's afraid to get dirty.

jcroft
04-26-2005, 12:18 PM
Jcroft,

Someone else stated it was DII, not you. Also, in today's NFL, 5-7 rounders must make the team in their first year. Go and look at any NFL roster (especially the Patriots, Eagles and Ravens) and you'll see plenty of late round picks.

I didn't say you didn't like the pick. I'm debating your stated fact that 5-7th rounders don't make the team in their first year even though on just the Chiefs team alone I can count off the top of my head Fujita, Harts, Pyle, Black and Sampson, not to mention UDFA's like Hicks, Smith and Sapp.

Dane

I said that many don't make it their first year, and some do. I stand by that. We'll see how it plays out this year.

When the question was asked, it was because someone was surprised that there is a chance he might not make the team. All I did was point out that it's common for fifth rounders to not make the team. I still think that's pretty accurate.

B_Ambuehl
04-26-2005, 12:24 PM
The only reason this guy was drafted in the 5th round is because he played Div I-AA and he's under 6'0. At inside linebacker only gets drafted high if he fits the ideal perception of what an inside linebacker is "supposed" to look like. But everyone knew about him. Athletically, he's better then any other ILB drafted and his combine numbers show that. On the field he's as good or better then any other ILB drafted and his numbers also show that. The only thing he has to worry about is getting injured. He's so strong, explosive, and aggressive that he's capable of inflicting a lot of damage not only on other people but also himself. If he can stay injury free he's gonna be impossible to keep off the field.

Ari Chi3fs
04-26-2005, 12:33 PM
big, strong, and FLEXIBLE. You cant be a tramp-champ without being flexible. This I believe will be the key to him staying relatively injury-free. Plus, he has already proven that he isnt scared to play injured. He did it for 10 games his junior year, if I recall correctly.

Ebolapox
04-26-2005, 12:51 PM
forgive my optimism, but there's another guy who's white and was a dII guy--tedy bruschi

-EB-

Frosty
04-26-2005, 12:59 PM
forgive my optimism, but there's another guy who's white and was a dII guy--tedy bruschi

-EB-

Bruschi played at Arizona, didn't he?

Tribal Warfare
04-26-2005, 12:59 PM
The guy has a great ‘tude.

xoxo~
Gaz
Hopes Boomer gets to escort Dante into the end zone.


Gaz did you do a happy dance after the draft ended :D PBJ

ChiefsCountry
04-26-2005, 01:05 PM
Some of you are pretty igorant about the "small school" thing. Illinois State is I-AA. They play in the Gateway Conference, which is basically a I-A conference that plays in I-AA. It is almost as good as the Sun Belt and MAC. It is really good football.

ENDelt260
04-26-2005, 01:07 PM
Bruschi played at Arizona, didn't he?
Yeah. They're techincally DI.

Frosty
04-26-2005, 01:12 PM
Yeah. They're techincally DI.

Well, I know some people's opinion of the PAC-10, but still ...
:shrug:

I thought I remembered Bruschi from those great "Desert Swarm" defenses of the '90s.

Ebolapox
04-26-2005, 01:20 PM
ROFL

dammit, maybe I'm thinking of someone else--

-EB-...feeling like an assclown

C-Mac
04-26-2005, 01:25 PM
Bruschi played at Arizona, didn't he?

......and he tied Derrick Thomas record of 52 QB sacks.

Just for comparison:
Bruschi's 74 tackles for losses ranks sixth in Division I-A history and compiled 185 total tackles (137 solos), forced six fumbles. He played defensive end.

David.
04-26-2005, 01:38 PM
How can you not be excited about this guy?

Makes me want to go play some football

Thig Lyfe
04-26-2005, 01:52 PM
I'm really hyped about this pick as well. Great attitude and a lot of skill. He sounds like a ream team player (Eric Hicks, Ryan Sims are you listening?) who is willing to do anything to help the team win.

He'll be this year's Jared Allen. I don't expect him to get cut; in fact, I wouldn't be suprised if he becomes a starter at some point this season. Rich Scanlon and Quinton Caver will be cut before Boomer.

DaneMcCloud
04-26-2005, 02:30 PM
JCroft,

I'm not calling you out, but you are flat-out dead wrong about 5th choices not making the team. Since 1990, the Chiefs have drafted a total of 18 players in the 5th round including the 2005 draft. Let's not automatically assume that both 5th rounders will make the team so for purposes of this example, we'll not add them into the equation.

So, from 1990 to 2004, the Chiefs have selected 16 players in the 5th round. Only 5 of those players did not make the squad, though June Henley did play for the St. Louis Rams that year and the year after, so you could make the case that 12 players made it in their first year. That aside, that's an astounding 69% success rate for the Chiefs alone! I think that fully disputes your claim that "most 5th rounders don't make the team in their first year".

2005 2 138 Boomer Grigsby-x LB Illinois State
2005 11 147 Alphonso Hodge-x DB Miami (OH)

2003 18 153 Jordan Black T Notre Dame
2002 8 143 Scott Fujita LB California
2001 10 141 Billy Baber TE Virginia
2001 19 150 Derrick Blaylock RB Stephen F. Austin
2000 24 153 Dante Hall RB Texas A&M
2000 33 162 Patrick Dennis DB Louisiana-Monroe
1998 5 128 Robert Williams DB North Carolina
1997 33 163 June Henley * RB Kansas
1996 3 135 Joe Horn WR Itawamba C.C.
1995 21 155 Mike Pelton DT Auburn
1995 30 164 Jerrott Willard* LB California
1994 20 151 James Burton* DB Fresno State
1994 25 156 Rob Waldrop DT Arizona
1993 18 130 Lindsay Knapp* G Notre Dame
1991 22 133 Charles Mincy DB Washington
1990 15 124 Derrick Graham T Appalachian State

* Denotes that player didn't make the squad that year
x- not included in example

Iowanian
04-26-2005, 03:11 PM
I know it sounds silly.......but from the interview, he's reminding me of the MLB on "the replacements"


The Chiefs as a whole NEED some "WOOOOOOOOO!"

Hopefully, he'll be good enough, Arrowhead will be blairing a train whistle before Kickoffs.

Coach
04-26-2005, 03:13 PM
I know it sounds silly.......but from the interview, he's reminding me of the MLB on "the replacements"


The Chiefs as a whole NEED some "WOOOOOOOOO!"

Hopefully, he'll be good enough, Arrowhead will be blairing a train whistle before Kickoffs.

Danny Bateman!!!

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/the_replacements/jon_favreau/replacements.jpg

jcroft
04-26-2005, 03:18 PM
JCroft,

I'm not calling you out, but you are flat-out dead wrong about 5th choices not making the team.

Fine, I'll be happy to be wrong if it will shut you the hell up.

By the way, are you counting the practice squad as "making the team?"

Iowanian
04-26-2005, 03:24 PM
Danny Bateman!!!

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/the_replacements/jon_favreau/replacements.jpg


NIIIIIIIIIIIIICE HIT! YEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!





I'm not sold until I see him play in the NFL...........As to height concern.....Zach Thomas is just one of the MLBs that is under "ideal" height.

I am just glad that the Chiefs got a "football player" from what I can tell.
I also like the CB from Miami OH....

DaneMcCloud
04-26-2005, 03:31 PM
JCroft,

First off, I'm not counting practice squad. All the players listed were chosen in the 5th round of their respective draft year made the team in the first year. That's 69% of 5th round players chosen by the Chiefs since 1990, not including this year's draft.

Secondly, it's totally uncool for you to tell me to "shut the hell up". You made the statement not once, but twice and said that the majority of fifth round draft choices don't make the team. I countered with not only the opposite reply, but facts to back it up. If anyone should "shut the hell up" it should be, my friend.

Dane

jcroft
04-26-2005, 03:34 PM
Secondly, it's totally uncool for you to tell me to "shut the hell up". You made the statement not once, but twice and said that the majority of fifth round draft choices don't make the team. I countered with not only the opposite reply, but facts to back it up. If anyone should "shut the hell up" it should be, my friend.


I'm annoyed by your attitude, not by you correcting me. I'm annoyed by you totally missing what I said, ("It's not uncommon for fifth rounders to not make the team") to someone else and picking up as your opportunity to make me look foolish. I'm annoyed that you took what I said about fifth rounders sometimes not making the team to mean that I don't like Boomer. I'm annoyed that you told me off about how Illinois State isn't division II when I never said they were. And I'm annoyed at you saying, "I'm not trying to call you out," and then proceeding to call me out.

So shut the hell up.

jcroft
04-26-2005, 03:36 PM
Umm, <strong>I think there's a possibility every fifth rounder taken by ANY team might not make the team. I would say after the third round, all bets are off on making the team.</strong> Late rounders are generally projects that often don't make the team in their first year. If they do, great, but I don't think anyone expects it.

That's what I said. Perhaps I wasn't spot on with 100% accuracy, but my point remains in tact. It's not a given that a fifth rounder will make the team. I tried to end this stupid discussion the last time by admitting I was wrong and that wasn't good enough for you. What would you like me to do this time?

Iowanian
04-26-2005, 03:36 PM
I sense a Pillow fight to the Death Looming in the Morning Fog.........

KC Kings
04-26-2005, 05:33 PM
I'd do him.

KC Kings
04-26-2005, 05:35 PM
ROFL ROFL ROFL

Thas' only in da mornin'. Youa 'possed to be up cookin' breakfas' for somebody by then.

Well you wanna woooo woooo. It's just fo' decoration.

Fairplay
04-26-2005, 05:42 PM
I'd do him.



We could set you up with DC if you're into that.

Inspector
04-26-2005, 05:54 PM
That's what I said. Perhaps I wasn't spot on with 100% accuracy, but my point remains in tact. It's not a given that a fifth rounder will make the team. I tried to end this stupid discussion the last time by admitting I was wrong and that wasn't good enough for you. What would you like me to do this time?

Oh heck..

I'd just let it go. It aint worth fighting about.

Either way, some good points made. Can't wait to see this Boomer guy strut his stuff. :thumb:

Nzoner
04-26-2005, 06:00 PM
I know it sounds silly.......but from the interview, he's reminding me of the MLB on "the replacements"


The Chiefs as a whole NEED some "WOOOOOOOOO!"

Hopefully, he'll be good enough, Arrowhead will be blairing a train whistle before Kickoffs.

Based on his quote of being a "crazy white boy" I'd like to see Foreigner's old song Dirty White Boy reworked.

"I'm just a crazy white boy,a crazeeeeee white boy"

jcroft
04-26-2005, 06:01 PM
Well you wanna woooo woooo. It's just fo' decoration.

Yeeeeah. It's jus' fo' decoration'. Thas' it and thas' all.

Nzoner
04-26-2005, 06:14 PM
Just adding the other Boomer thread links,as I'm on the bandwagon and pulling for this kid to make it.

Boomer '04 Interview (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=115143)

Boomer combine workout (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=115239)

Red remains the color for Boomer (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=115236)

milkman
04-26-2005, 07:35 PM
Shit, I think this kid makes the team on attitude alone.
We need this kind of attitude on STs and on defense.

There's no way a guy who just wants to go out and bust wedges, knock out potential the players that are chasing Dante, and who just wants to hit people doesn't at least make it on special teams.

And as a B/U LB, you just got to think he's going to be pushing some people, pumping them up.

jcroft
04-26-2005, 08:06 PM
Shit, I think this kid makes the team on attitude alone.
We need this kind of attitude on STs and on defense.

There's no way a guy who just wants to go out and bust wedges, knock out potential the players that are chasing Dante, and who just wants to hit people doesn't at least make it on special teams.

And as a B/U LB, you just got to think he's going to be pushing some people, pumping them up.

I think we everything we know about this kid (which is basically his attitude, his production in college, and his measurables), it's pretty safe to say he'll make the team and be an impact player on special teams.

But, it's also safe to say the coaching staff isn't going to hand him anything, so he'd better bring his A game in the fall. I'm confident he will.

Nzoner
04-26-2005, 08:07 PM
And yet another Boomer related thread. (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=115261)

Wonder what the over/under is

Boomer on the radio (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=115287)

milkman
04-26-2005, 08:33 PM
I think we everything we know about this kid (which is basically his attitude, his production in college, and his measurables), it's pretty safe to say he'll make the team and be an impact player on special teams.

But, it's also safe to say the coaching staff isn't going to hand him anything, so he'd better bring his A game in the fall. I'm confident he will.

I'm not sure if you misunderstood what I'm saying, but I'll try to clear it up, just in case.

I have no expectation of Boomer being handed anything.
Nor do I expect he'll see much playing time on the D.

But from what we're seeing of this guy's attitude, I fully expect that when our O is on the field, Boomer will be on the sidelines with the defense just going crazy and firing them up, getting them excited about getting back on the field, wanting to hit some people in the mouth.

jcroft
04-26-2005, 09:05 PM
I'm not sure if you misunderstood what I'm saying, but I'll try to clear it up, just in case.

I have no expectation of Boomer being handed anything.
Nor do I expect he'll see much playing time on the D.

But from what we're seeing of this guy's attitude, I fully expect that when our O is on the field, Boomer will be on the sidelines with the defense just going crazy and firing them up, getting them excited about getting back on the field, wanting to hit some people in the mouth.

No, I didn't midunderstand at all. I started off responded to your comment and then we off on my own a bit. I totally understand, and agree completely. :)

Nzoner
04-28-2005, 10:17 PM
I'm making this the official Boomer thread and adding all links to Boomer threads so it'll be easier to check back on in a few months.

With these two were up to 7,that I know of.

CBS Sportsline analysis on Boomer (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=115357&page=2&pp=30)

Boomer mystery (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=115422)