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ROYC75
04-26-2005, 11:54 AM
You choose the players in all 4 options that you think will make the team.

With the addition of Bell, Johnson and the latest phenom Grigsby, we now have 10 LB's on the current roster. Barring any June 1st cuts or PU's thru FA, choose the 4 options in order.You must figure to keep 7 LB's for the coming roster.With the current issues of injuries to Barber and Maz ( although I expect one or both not to play ) the LB's positions seem to be a contested one in TC.

This is a overall view of what the planeteers think will be if certain options unfold.

Current LB's on roster are, Bell,Barber,Maz,Caver,Fox,Fujita,Johnson,Mitchell,Grigsby, and Scanlon. Choose your starter and backups by position.

Option # 1 Must include Barber
ROLB ...
MLB ...
LOLB ...

Option # 2 Must include Maz
ROLB ...
MLB ...
LOLB ...

Option # 3 Must include both Maz and Barber
ROLB ...
MLB ...
LOLB ...

Option # 4 Neither Barber or Maz is on active roster.
ROLB ...
MLB ...
LOLB ...

King_Chief_Fan
04-26-2005, 11:56 AM
option 4 it is.
Maz and Barber are walking wounded....thank them for their contribution and send them on their way.

Mr. Laz
04-26-2005, 12:05 PM
i don't know about all this "must choose" crap

but right now you have to go with most potiential

1. Johnson,Bell,Fox

top phyically potiential group

2. (my personal favorite) johnson,grigsby,Bell

all 3 are outstanding athletic guys and have tremendous potiential.
Bell has shown himself a good pass rusher from the outside.
Johnson is great at working in space and chasing stuff down.
Grigsby is the blue collar,insane MLB i like to have



but this is all based on "hope" and potiential

but we've see negatives from other players already:

fujita is too much finesse for me
barber is ok ... but i've seen nothing explosive about his play
mitchell seems to have the football instincts of a ground squirrel
maz will always be limited by his lack of speed

Chiefnj
04-26-2005, 12:11 PM
I'm hoping Barber is healthy. He's not nearly as bad as people make him out to be. He was a star in Philly with some talent around. He played well in KC even though half the time he had a busted hand and wore wrapping that looked like a 16oz boxing glove on it.

You need at least one LB with experience in the scheme and who is not adjusting to a new position. I'd like to see Johnson, Bell and Barber.

Zach
04-26-2005, 12:20 PM
I am of the feeling that each linebacker must earn their spot. I as big a Boomer fan as any, growing up with him, but if he doesn't earn his spot he shouldn't be awarded the job. Same with DJ. If for some reason he can't beat out Scott Fujita, then he doesn't deserve to start. With all that being said, I'd hope DJ lives up to potential and takes Fujita's spot as I feel Fujita is a vastly over-rated linebacker. Bell will start because of his contract, but also the fact that he will be the most talented. The other spot is open to Barber, Fox, & Mitchell and I would expect to see Fox there by the time the regular season opens as Barber won't be ready and Mitchell couldn't fight his way out of a paper sack.

I feel that when everyone is healthy our LB situation might become somewhat of a strength as we would be two, potentially three, deep at every spot.

Sam: DJ, Fujita
Mike: Bell, Boomer, Maz, Scanlon
Will: Barber, Fox, Mitchell

The nice thing is, Bell, Boomer, and Mitchell can play all three spots which provides flexibility in Nickle and Dime situations.

Mr. Laz
04-26-2005, 12:23 PM
The nice thing is, Bell, Boomer, and Mitchell can play all three spots which provides flexibility in Nickle and Dime situations.
fujita slid over to MLB in passing situations last year as well

King_Chief_Fan
04-26-2005, 12:24 PM
I am of the feeling that each linebacker must earn their spot. I as big a Boomer fan as any, growing up with him, but if he doesn't earn his spot he shouldn't be awarded the job. Same with DJ. If for some reason he can't beat out Scott Fujita, then he doesn't deserve to start. With all that being said, I'd hope DJ lives up to potential and takes Fujita's spot as I feel Fujita is a vastly over-rated linebacker. Bell will start because of his contract, but also the fact that he will be the most talented. The other spot is open to Barber, Fox, & Mitchell and I would expect to see Fox there by the time the regular season opens as Barber won't be ready and Mitchell couldn't fight his way out of a paper sack.

I feel that when everyone is healthy our LB situation might become somewhat of a strength as we would be two, potentially three, deep at every spot.

Sam: DJ, Fujita
Mike: Bell, Boomer, Maz, Scanlon
Will: Barber, Fox, Mitchell

The nice thing is, Bell, Boomer, and Mitchell can play all three spots which provides flexibility in Nickle and Dime situations.

How much Dickie factor gets put in as far as earning a position? You know he prefers not to play rookies.

ct
04-26-2005, 12:33 PM
1. Option # 1 Must include Barber I think he will be on the roster.
ROLB ...DJ, Barber
MLB ...Bell, Mitchell, Grigsby
LOLB ...Fujita, Fox

2. Option # 2 Must include Maz Unlikely
ROLB ...DJ, Fox
MLB ...Bell, Maz, Grigsby
LOLB ...Fujita, Mitchell

3. Option # 4 Neither Barber or Maz is on active roster. Very Unlikely!!
ROLB ...DJ, Caver
MLB ...Bell, Mitchell, Grigsby
LOLB ...Fujita, Fox

4. Option # 3 Must include both Maz and Barber - No way!
ROLB ...DJ, Barber
MLB ...Bell, Mitchell, Maz
LOLB ...Fujita, Fox

Ari Chi3fs
04-26-2005, 12:35 PM
bye maz... thanks for the memories.

We will be paying him cash for a long time due to the injury.

Hoover
04-26-2005, 12:35 PM
PEOPLE MAZ IS DONE

DeepSouth
04-26-2005, 12:36 PM
Starters;

olb - DJ
mlb - Mitchell
olb - Bell

Backups
olb - Fujita, Fox
mlb - Boomer, Scanlon

Kyle401
04-26-2005, 12:39 PM
PEOPLE MAZ IS DONE

Maybe, but it would be a lot of fun to see Maz and Boomer playing together on special teams this year. I hope he can make it back.

ROYC75
04-26-2005, 12:39 PM
I was looking for your thoughts along this line.

I'm thinking Caver will be cut...... but who knows.

Option # 1 Must include Barber
ROLB ...Barber,Fox
MLB ...Bell,Mitchell,Scanlon ( Until Grigsby proves otherwise)
LOLB ...Fujita,Johnson

Option # 2 Must include Maz
ROLB ...Johnson,Fox
MLB ...Bell, Maz,Scanlon ( Until Grigsby proves otherwise)
LOLB ...Fujita,Mitchell

Option # 3 Must include both Maz and Barber
ROLB ...Barber,Fox
MLB ...Bell,Maz,Mitchell
LOLB ...Fujita, Johnson

Option # 4 Neither Barber or Maz is on active roster.
ROLB ... Johnson,Caver ( maybe Grigsby )
MLB ... Bell, Mitchell,Scanlon ( Until Grigsby proves otherwise)
LOLB ...Fujita,Fox

In all likelyhood, I see it coming down to these options. I do believe that Maz is history.

I do see Johnson as a starter ASAP.

Otter
04-26-2005, 12:46 PM
I'm hoping Barber is healthy. He's not nearly as bad as people make him out to be. He was a star in Philly with some talent around. He played well in KC even though half the time he had a busted hand and wore wrapping that looked like a 16oz boxing glove on it.

You need at least one LB with experience in the scheme and who is not adjusting to a new position. I'd like to see Johnson, Bell and Barber.

This reflects my feelings as well. :clap:

yoswif
04-26-2005, 12:55 PM
I don't think Barber or Maz will make a Chief's 53 man roster again. Football is a replacement business and like all Chiefs, someone will take their place.

Since Bell hasn't played a 4-3 in the pros, any of the three LB positions is going to be new to him. I think Bell's "game" is closer to Chad Brown's than other MLBs that left Pittsburg. Like Brown, Bell would be an extremely effective blitzer at ROLB and form a great partnership with RDE Jared Allen, imo.

Mitchell's late season play earn's him a chance to make Chiefs management look competent for using a second round pick on him. Management rarely passes up an opportunity to look competent. Mitchell returning at MLB in his Dec '04' form is preferable to new starters at every position, imo.

If DJ uses his tremendous athletic ability and football instincts to carry out his assignments with the greatest proficiency possible instead of free lancing, he'll make a lot of big plays and create a lot of big play opportunities for his teammates. If he starts free lancing, he'll be standing on the sideline listening to a lecture about discipline, responsibilty, and team play. I think he's smart enough to figure out that team play will earn him and a lot of his teammates a lot of pro bowl votes.

KCChiefsFan88
04-26-2005, 01:28 PM
Lets just make it simple...

Fujita and DJ on the outside and Bell in the middle

3 best available and healthy LBs on the Chiefs roster, start them.

Radar Chief
04-26-2005, 01:34 PM
I'm hoping Barber is healthy. He's not nearly as bad as people make him out to be. He was a star in Philly with some talent around. He played well in KC even though half the time he had a busted hand and wore wrapping that looked like a 16oz boxing glove on it.

You need at least one LB with experience in the scheme and who is not adjusting to a new position. I'd like to see Johnson, Bell and Barber.

My only complaint with Barbar is wrapping up on the tackle.
He seems to have this impression that he can just drop a shoulder into the ball carrier and knock’em on their ass.

nascher
04-26-2005, 01:50 PM
Barber will make it Maz/Caver will not.

Fox is the Darkhorse we have to wait and see until TC.

royr17
04-26-2005, 02:41 PM
My Pick :

Johnson and Fujita
Bell, Scanlon, Boomer
Fox and Mitchell

Maz and Barber are FINISHED

LiL stumppy
04-26-2005, 03:07 PM
# 4

Fujita
Bell
Johnson

whoman69
04-26-2005, 03:16 PM
Maz is done. Even if he is able to come back, he doesn't have a position anymore. Do you think the coaches will say, "Maz is back, let's have Bell come off the bench."
He is not going to be a backup either. The only reason he hasn't been cut so far is that he has been injured.

penguinz
04-26-2005, 03:31 PM
If Maz is on this team we are done.

cdcox
04-26-2005, 03:43 PM
1. Option # 1 Must include Barber
ROLB ...DJ, Barber
MLB ...Bell, Mitchell, Grigsby
LOLB ...Fujita, Fox

2. Option # 2 Must include Maz
ROLB ...DJ, Fox
MLB ...Bell, Maz, Mitchell
LOLB ...Fujita, Grigsby

3. Option # 4 Neither Barber or Maz is on active roster

ROLB ...DJ, Caver
MLB ...Bell, Mitchell, Grigsby
LOLB ...Fujita, Fox

4. Option # 3 Must include both Maz and Barber

ROLB ...DJ, Barber
MLB ...Bell, Grigsby, Maz
LOLB ...Fujita, Fox

patteeu
04-26-2005, 05:37 PM
Starters;

olb - DJ
mlb - Mitchell
olb - Bell

Backups
olb - Fujita, Fox
mlb - Boomer, Scanlon

I'll go with this one.

cmh6476
04-28-2005, 01:10 AM
Bell,Barber,Maz,Caver,Fox,Fujita,Johnson,Mitchell,Grigsby, and Scanlon

OLB D Johnson
MLB Bell
OLB Fujita

Maz = pup or cut
Barber = cut

Caver, Grigsby, Scanlon all on the team for ST reasons. Kawika is our only feasible option as a backup. Fox on potential only.

Can we really afford to keep 8 LBers? :shrug:If not, Scanlon's days may be numbered.

whoman69
04-28-2005, 09:46 AM
Maz will not make this roster, and at best Barber will start the season on the PUP list. If we want to put our best, most athletic team on the field that is Fuji, Bell and DJ. Fox and Mitchell serve as backups outside, with Grigsby in the middle. Caver will be ST only.

ROYC75
04-28-2005, 10:07 AM
These options were just for fun to see who each member trhought would be starters and backups for each position.


Can we really afford to keep 8 LBers? If not, Scanlon's days may be numbered.


No ...... at best it's 7, probally 6 will make it.


IMHO, I see Grisgby more and more from what I read on reports that he will be used on the OLB position. Of course it's pure speculation right now and TC will decide this.

I still think Maz will be cut, Barber cut or PUP for 6 weeks and then probally released if he is not ready to play, I don't think DV wants to pull another Wilson like last year.

I see us going more of a youth movement in defense, esp. LB's. Gun want speed, explosiveness and the older dogs are tired and injured.