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Taco John
05-10-2005, 12:30 AM
Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith
Cast: Ewan McGregor, Natalie Portman, Hayden Christensen, Ian McDiarmid, Samuel L. Jackson, Jimmy Smits, Frank Oz, Anthony Daniels, Christopher Lee, Keisha Castle-Hughes, Silas Carson, Jay Laga'aia, Bruce Spence, Wayne Pygram, Temuera Morrison, David Bowers and Oliver Ford Davies
Directed by: George Lucas
Screenplay by: George Lucas
Distributor: 20th Century Fox
Runtime: 146 min
Rating: PG-13
Year: 2005
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he title scrolls that open each and every Star Wars film have always brought to mind the visual outline of the monoliths in 2001: A Space Odyssey, which, in the way they point toward the sun and the moon and the mysteries that lie therein, have come to represent avatars of human progress. Though George Lucas's scrolls may follow in the monoliths' aesthetic and spiritual footsteps, they don't point to anything in particular—they simply spill into a black hole. It's like R2D2 spitting and burping behind Luke Skywalker with no real sense of direction: however iconic, these scrolls represent nothing but shallow exposition. But Star Wars fans still choose to cheer and follow the scroll's path, perhaps because a Star Wars film is, like 2001, an effigy of sorts: Kubrick's masterpiece canonizes evolution in the same way Lucas's films enshrine juvenilia.

The old Toys "R" Us motto ("I don't want to grow up") could apply to every Star Wars film that has come out since 1999. It's why we root for Yoda in Attack of the Clones and, now, Revenge of the Sith: the little green dude is like some childhood pet or stuffed animal coming to life and kicking some major ass, using a light saber that, face it, no human penis could ever hold a candle to. Lucas understands his audience's thirst for fantasy and hunger for nostalgic relief, but this is precisely why I'm hesitant to call him a filmmaker. He's more of a savvy businessman: he knows how to pick good collaborators (in Tell Them Who You Are, he all but credits Haskell Wexler for the success of his one good film, American Graffiti) and he uses the release of each new Star Wars film not so much to expand our minds but to roll out a new line of merchandising, like the cute lil' buzz droids that latch on to Obi-Wan's ship in the first few minutes of Revenge of the Sith.

Though Revenge of the Sith is single-mindedly obsessed with setting up the mystique of the first Star Wars film, the two films still look and feel completely unrelated. That's because these new Star Wars films, with their maddening obsession with digital photography, aren't very film-like and don't feel like they're challenging or responding to the mythology of the first three films, simply setting them up. Like Attack of the Clones before it, Revenge of the Sith is just another Reloaded-style mock-up of A New Hope, a faster, longer, taller Six Flags ride trying to outperform some dinky old thing from Coney Island. Gene Shalit might call Revenge of the Sith—which begins with an exciting space battle between Republic attack cruisers, Jedi fighters, and enemy battle cruisers—a "roller coaster thrill ride," and he'd be right, seeing as the battle's pleasures are more adrenal than aesthetic or emotional.

The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones were deadly bores, mostly because Lucas was staving off the inevitable, and if there's one thing that's good about Revenge of the Sith, it's that it knows how to keep things moving. It's not a great film, but it's better than its prequels and I'd be lying if I said it wasn't without its pleasures: the film's emotional center is both childish and childishly developed but the presentation is more elegant (a creepy, synchronized light show in the Senate hall may be Lucas's version of Eyes Wide Shut's masquerade ball), the music and villains (namely the spidery General Grievous) are compellingly insidious, and the light saber fights are awesome (four penises are better than one, right?). The sets still look like Oscar stages made from leftover materials used to build jungle gyms (Princess Amidala and Anakin Skywalker's first scene together appears to take place in the Egyptian temple from that Dolby Digital logo that kick-starts so many movies on DVD), but it's obvious that Lucas has learned from his more egregious mistakes: In spite of all the embarrassing digital fakery (like the 83-year-old Christopher Lee's face clearly having been plastered onto his stunt double's body), I can happily confirm that audiences won't have to sit through another piss-long senatorial meeting.

During the film's epic-length last stretch (minor spoilers lie herein), Lucas excitingly contrasts the death of Amidala (Natalie Portman) with the birth of Darth Vadar (Hayden Christensen). We know how it all pans out but the moral uncertainty of these characters is palatable enough to suggest that they might be able to stave off the inevitable if they choose to make the right decision. When, in an earlier scene, Amidala looks into Anakin's eyes and declares that he's breaking her heart, this brief emotional interruption from the ruinous explosions of the film's second half is much appreciated. Though Lucas writes love scenes with the naiveté of a suicidal schoolgirl ("I love you"…"No, I love you more"…or something to that effect), the film's central Sirk-in-space romance is at least earnest and poignant. Better yet, Lucas is surprisingly interested in examining what constitutes right and wrong here, and while Anakin's trip to the dark side is hurried, incredulous, and somewhat tawdry (the sniveling Darth Sidious seduces the young man like some lascivious priest luring a choir boy into his chambers), Anakin's moral struggle reveals itself as a complicated fusion of frustrated romantic and familial duty and thwarted ego.

I imagine that Revenge of the Sith is very much the film Lucas's fans want to see, but are some of them ready for an anti-Bush diatribe? Though every Star Wars film until now has existed in an insular comic-book world, a lot has happened since 1999 and 2002 in the real world and Lucas dares, for the first time, to address how the hollow political conflict in his franchise correlates with the reality outside its panels. (It would have been stupid not to strike a parallel.) Revenge of the Sith's two greatest moments tap into the uncertainty of our own political climate: the dazzling battle between Yoda and Darth Sidious (an outstanding Ian McDiarmid) inside the beautifully spiraling Senate hall evokes Democrats and Republicans scrambling for power and, during an obscenely over-the-top duel in Mustafar, Obi-Wan (Ewan McGregor) declares, "Only a Sith Lord deals in absolutes," after Anakin says, "If you're not with me, you're my enemy." Lucas's political gestures would be easier to appreciate if he himself didn't trade in absolutes and generalities (you know the drill: the darker the couture, the closer you are to the dark side), but it's still a welcome step forward. Pity we had to wait so long for it, but, as they say, better late than never.

Ed Gonzalez
© slant magazine, 2005.

alnorth
05-10-2005, 12:56 AM
I think I can shed some light on this.

Obi-Wan (Ewan McGregor) declares, "Only a Sith Lord deals in absolutes," after Anakin says, "If you're not with me, you're my enemy." Lucas's political gestures would be easier to appreciate if he himself didn't trade in absolutes and generalities

I read the review when it first came out, and this line did not read like this. Instead, it read something like this (from memory, might not be verbatim)

Obi-Wan (Ewan McGregor) declares, "Only a Sith Lord deals in absolutes," after Anakin says, "If you're not with me, you're against democracy." Lucas's political gestures would be easier to appreciate if he himself didn't trade in absolutes and generalities

When I first read this topic I figured it would be about this, but when I went back to read the original review again, lo and behold its changed. Perhaps the reviewer got email bombed by fellow reviewers saying "you idiot, you heard it wrong, he said enemy, not democracy!".

In the review as it stands now, yes it looks stupid.

In the review as it was originally written (your gonna have to trust me on this, but it does make his review make more sense with my change), youd have a legitimate arguement here.

Taco John
05-10-2005, 01:07 AM
Yeah, but the problem is, these same themes were already in motion well before Bush was president. The talk about how a Republic turns into an evil empire is as old as the Star Wars series itself... But it's even older than that! Plato was talking about this stuff way before Bush was in office, If I've got my timeline straight...

alnorth
05-10-2005, 01:18 AM
Thats all true, but the democracy line of "your either with me, or your against democracy (and for Bush's terrorists?)" woulda been just a tad over the top. ; ) As it is, I'm chalking this up to an idiot reviewer who didnt pay attention, because a line like that woulda appeared on a whole bunch of reviews and likely made the news as well.

Cochise
05-10-2005, 04:22 AM
Romans go home

patteeu
05-10-2005, 06:44 AM
The problem with this is that it's backwards. In the movie, Anakin is the bad guy, but in real life, Bush is the good guy. I'm afraid the supposed parallelism doesn't work for me in it's current form. It's like seeing a remake of Steel Magnolias where all the lead roles are played by guys like Vin Diesel, The Rock, and Bruce Willis.

Baby Lee
05-10-2005, 07:43 AM
I thought all of this happened long long ago, and a galaxt far far away.

HC_Chief
05-10-2005, 07:56 AM
I think the author is a bit obsessed with phalic symbols.
Cripes, it's a stupid "check your brain at the door", eye-candy fest. It's Star Wars fercrissakes. To take it seriously is retarted(sic) to the nth degree.

Garcia Bronco
05-10-2005, 09:32 AM
Yeah, but the problem is, these same themes were already in motion well before Bush was president. The talk about how a Republic turns into an evil empire is as old as the Star Wars series itself... But it's even older than that! Plato was talking about this stuff way before Bush was in office, If I've got my timeline straight...

Agreed.

In fact is speaks more to the writers insecurites about our President than the actual "agenda" of the film. I didn't read all the posts in this thread because I don't want any spoilers people seem hell bent on having before they see the actual film. I must have a clear mind.

But these have been as good and as bad as the 1st 3 films. I've seen Star Wars EP IV and V in excess of 400 times each. I'm a damn expert.

alnorth
05-10-2005, 11:10 AM
I think the author is a bit obsessed with phalic symbols.
Cripes, it's a stupid "check your brain at the door", eye-candy fest. It's Star Wars fercrissakes. To take it seriously is retarted(sic) to the nth degree.

This film could be an exception because of its incredibly dark nature.

When you have a scene where the main character of the movie kills a roomful of 10-yr old children, it aint your average brainless action film.

SoCalBronco
05-10-2005, 02:25 PM
i dunno about this, that might be a stretch although Lucas said himself in the original Star Wars in 1977, Darth Vader was supposed to represent Richard Nixon, so really after that i lost alot of respect for this whole star wars thing. The fact that i am a trekkie seals the deal so far as my dislike for star wars.

Iowanian
05-10-2005, 02:31 PM
Anyone who takes political lessons home from the eleventeeth episode of Stardorks is the biggest dork, of all the dorks.

I don't remember any laws being changed on incest being changed after Luke was hitting his sister with the white-Saber.

Duck Dog
05-10-2005, 03:06 PM
Stardorks? ROFL

I'm stealing that.

Iowanian
05-10-2005, 03:29 PM
"Use the Dork Luke......"
"The Dork is Strong in this one...."

|Zach|
05-10-2005, 03:31 PM
I turned Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle off because of it's Bush bashing.

stevieray
05-10-2005, 03:33 PM
don't be silly, the phrase sounds like Satan's....

I read somewhere that the themes are Eastern.

Seriously, it's just fiction..

Calcountry
05-10-2005, 04:37 PM
I think the author is a bit obsessed with phalic symbols.
Cripes, it's a stupid "check your brain at the door", eye-candy fest. It's Star Wars fercrissakes. To take it seriously is retarted(sic) to the nth degree.Yeah, no need for Viagra, just push the button on your weapon and, (light saber opening noise), whammo its rock hard.

Taco John
05-10-2005, 05:45 PM
don't be silly, the phrase sounds like Satan's....

I read somewhere that the themes are Eastern.

Seriously, it's just fiction..




Eastern in the sense that "The Force" is an eastern concept, ie. Prana for the hindus, or Chi for the Chinese. Ki for the Japanese. We don't have a relative western equivalent, though I'd make the argument that the "Holy Ghost" is the relative Western equivalent. The bottom line equivalent of all of those concepts are that they are ever present "forces" that permeate the Universe.

I'm not so sure that the actual plot themes could be considered Eastern though. I definitely think there's a political underpinning to them. But I'd say it's always been in motion, and unrelated to Bush personally... Not so much subjectively...

GoChiefs
05-10-2005, 06:00 PM
Vader lied, people died.

Ultra Peanut
05-10-2005, 06:01 PM
I must have a clear mind.A clear mind you must have? Hmm.

A pure soul you possess.

HC_Chief
05-11-2005, 08:10 AM
don't be silly, the phrase sounds like Satan's....

I read somewhere that the themes are Eastern.

Seriously, it's just fiction..

The themes are eastern because they're a direct rip-off of Kurasawa. He based the jedi on Kurasawa's Samurai. The story, set in space, is based on old Buck Rogers serials from the 1930s

Rausch
05-11-2005, 03:05 PM
The themes are eastern because they're a direct rip-off of Kurasawa. He based the jedi on Kurasawa's Samurai. The story, set in space, is based on old Buck Rogers serials from the 1930s

Before the first prequel came out he admitted in interviews it was heavily based on Nazi Germany and WWII.

Just look at the bad guys. And the "storm troopers." The death star, capable of whiping out whole planets (races) as quickly as possible.

And the Alliance (or allies).

http://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Star_Wars

HC_Chief
05-12-2005, 08:32 AM
Before the first prequel came out he admitted in interviews it was heavily based on Nazi Germany and WWII.

Just look at the bad guys. And the "storm troopers." The death star, capable of whiping out whole planets (races) as quickly as possible.

And the Alliance (or allies).

http://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Star_Wars

Makes sense. You can definitely see the influences throughout the series. Jedi = Kuroawa samurai, Empire = nazis, scrolling intro/epic space adventure = 1930s sci-fi serials; ewoks and Jar Jar = braindead marketing to retarded focus groups. ;)

RINGLEADER
05-16-2005, 09:19 AM
:shrug:

I didn't see the connection but I guess if you want to find it then you'll find it.

The Palpatine scenes are right-on though...

Taco John
05-18-2005, 06:44 PM
Apparently we should be boycotting this movie due to it's anti Bush undertones...




Boycott Star Wars And George Lucas

When will Hollywood learn? George Lucas and his intergalactic empire have now been added to our official boycott list. Sad...but necessary. A bigger Star Wars fan you'll never find...until now. Our country is at war and Lucas spouts off this crap?

Star Wars a cautionary tale about politics


Star Wars is a wakeup call to Americans about the erosion of democratic freedoms under George W. Bush, George Lucas said yesterday.

Lucas, at a Cannes film festival press conference yesterday, said he first wrote the framework of Star Wars in 1971 when reacting to then-U.S. president Richard Nixon and the events of the Vietnam War. But the story still has relevance today, he said, and is part of a pattern he has noticed in history.

"I didn't think it was going to get quite this close," he said of the parallels between the Nixon era and the Bush presidency, which has been sacrificing freedoms in the interests of national security.

"It is just one of those re-occuring things. I hope this doesn't come true in our country. Maybe the film will awaken people to the situation of how dangerous it is . . . The parallels between what we did in Vietnam and what we are doing now in Iraq are unbelievable."

In the latest film, the Palpatine character takes over as ruler of the universe with the co-operation of the other politicians.

"Because this is the back story (of the Star Wars saga), one of the main features of the back story was to tell how the Republic became the Empire," Lucas said.

"At the time I did that, it was during the Vietnam War and the Nixon era. The issue was: How does a democracy turn itself over to a dictator? Not how does a dictator take over, but how does a democracy and Senate give it away?"

Lucas cited the Roman empire in the wake of Caesar's death, France after the revolution and Hitler's rise in Germany as historical examples of countries giving themselves over to dictators.

"They all seem to happen in the same way with the same issues: Threats from the outside; they need more control; and a democratic body not being able to function properly because everybody's squabbling."

Lucas earned applause for his comments before joining actors Hayden Christensen, Natalie Portman (who has shaved her head for a new role), Samuel L. Jackson, Ian McDiarmid and Anthony Daniels in a free-wheeling discussion of Star Wars: Episode III -- Revenge Of The Sith, which made its world premiere last night out-of- competition.

This was before the Cannes brass presented Lucas with an honour called "the trophy of the festival."