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Nzoner
05-18-2005, 09:43 PM
Don't recall seeing this and sorry if I missed it.Saw a report on NFL Network tonight and then found this story. (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8483363/rss)

Rice, Broncos talking about uniting this season


May 18, 2005
NFL.com



Jerry Rice and the Denver Broncos, each with a need for the other, are exploring the idea of uniting this season, according to NFL.com's Adam Schefter.


Rice and Broncos coach Mike Shanahan, who worked together for three years in San Francisco, were scheduled to talk at some point in the past 24 hours, and Shanahan also conducted preliminary talks this weekend with Rice's agent, Jim Steiner.

Now the question becomes, can they work out a deal.

It sounds like both sides want to make sure this is the right match before moving forward. The 42-year-old Rice wants to be assured that he will have a role in the Broncos offense, and the Broncos want to make sure that Rice will be happy playing whatever role he does, even if it is limited.

Rice is willing to concede he will not start this season, but he would like to play. Denver would not expect him to start, but with as many four and five wide-receiver sets as the Broncos use, Rice might be able to get extensive time. Rice already has turned down one offer from another team, but now he will have a chance to talk seriously with another.

Interestingly, the Broncos weren't interested in Rice when he was available last season, but there were two main reasons:

It's highly unlikely that the Raiders would have traded Rice in their division, to a rival no less. But just as important, the Broncos believed Rice would want to be a starter, and they were set with their starters already.

Denver would be an ideal landing spot for Rice, given the leadership he could provide. Denver has veteran wide receiver Rod Smith and up-and-coming receivers Ashley Lelie and Darius Watts. The Broncos figure that Rice would be a great example for Lelie and Watts, not to mention valuable insurance in case Smith gets hurt.

Plus, don't forget that Rice did average 14.3 yards per catch last season, his highest average since 1995. So it's not like he can't run anymore.

Last week, Steiner sent a fax to all 32 NFL teams, informing them that "The GOAT -- Greatest of All Time" -- was still available. This is unusual for a future Hall of Famer to do.

But it was not the memo that helped sway Shanahan. He already knew Rice was available and when Denver failed to come away with a wide receiver in the draft, it made sense to look at a veteran he already knew.

Frazod
05-18-2005, 09:45 PM
What a sick way for Rice to end his career. :shake:

Works for us, though.

chiefs4me
05-18-2005, 09:50 PM
oh gosh.....I was still able to find a way in my heart to cheer for him when he became a raider. But to go to the donkey's...that hurts. It really hurts.

Dave Lane
05-18-2005, 09:52 PM
I'd love it. He looks like a man running in 3,720 lbs of peanut butter,

Dave

Mile High Mania
05-19-2005, 06:17 AM
I'm not too terribly interested in this one... more novelty than anything. The guy is 42 and not really going out the way a HOF'er or the GOAT should be going out.

the Talking Can
05-19-2005, 06:30 AM
[shrug]

Bwana
05-19-2005, 06:44 AM
Seriously, Rice should just retire while he can still walk. The guy has his records, is a shoe in for the hall, and has a bank full of cash. Why risk a serious injury at this point in his life?

Mile High Mania
05-19-2005, 06:50 AM
He's the greatest of all time, leaving the game in the worst possible way. He just can't walk away...

Bwana
05-19-2005, 07:14 AM
He's the greatest of all time, leaving the game in the worst possible way. He just can't walk away...

Sounds a lot like Ali.

ExtremeChief
05-19-2005, 07:38 AM
when Denver failed to come away with a wide receiver in the draft

They could have gotten a WR in the draft had they not felt the need to get 19 cornerbacks instead.

Frankie
05-19-2005, 07:55 AM
Broncos & Rice Hooking Up?

Who cares. This Rice is way overcooked anyway.

StcChief
05-19-2005, 07:58 AM
Hate to see Rice with the Donxs.

Still remember our D mugging him as a Raider in a 20-10 win at Arrowhead a few years ago.

Would welcome that opportunity again as Donx.

Bad way to go out of the game.

HemiEd
05-19-2005, 08:08 AM
They are sure having a nice offseason. ROFL Maybe they can get Emmett Smith to play another year?

Rain Man
05-19-2005, 08:25 AM
A foot race between him and Clarett in training camp would be pretty interesting.

Mile High Mania
05-19-2005, 08:28 AM
They are sure having a nice offseason. ROFL Maybe they can get Emmett Smith to play another year?

Well, while some of the FA signings aren't "flashy"... it's not like Denver had a whole lot to overhaul.

They should be fine at receiver as long as Rod remains healthy and Lelie builds upon a fine season in 2004. There is a lot of potential in Watts, as he showed some great things in 2004 as well as the standard rookie issues.

Right now, those are the big 3 with guys like Luke, BJ and others vying for the final spots. They retained Putz and signed Alexander for depth and blocking purposes in the offense, so that should be ok. The only thing I could see Rice doing is adding another weapon in the 4-5 receiver sets or in the redzone where Denver didn't exactly do well last year.

If Rice is thinking of anything other than filling in as a #3 at times or having any more of an impact than that, he can move on. I could see him being a factor (great hands, still has some moves) in the red zone.

I wouldn't mind seeing Denver line up with Rod, Lelie, Watts, Putz and Rice at the 20. That's about the only situation aside from being an insurance policy should one of the top 3 get hurt.

They have added more depth at RB with Dayne and Clarett, going along with Bell, Anderson and Quentin. QG shouldn't even factor in to the RB debate in my mind, he's a fumble machine.

The many CBs selected in the draft was odd, but the first guy (the midget) isn't going to be in the CB mix, he's slotted for a return specialist.

Lots of questions about how the Dline experiment goes, but the good thing is they have lots of depth. Brown and Warren are the only guys expected to start, and Ekubahn has nice upside as a rotation guy. One of the many issues in Cleveland was the LBs... the dline had no support from the LBs.

This offseason was apparently about filling depth needs and I'm fine with that, but I do hope that Walls is ready to start again with Bailey.

I'm curious to see what happens if they pick up (or trade) for the Carolina punter. I'm fine either way, but sounds like he wants a lot of cash. We'll see what happens.

Denver isn't in bad shape at all, the key is they need their Dline to step up and they need Bell to be the featured back that he is capable of being.

Frankie
05-19-2005, 08:41 AM
Who cares. This Rice is way overcooked anyway.

ROFL

Rice.. ROFL.... Overcooked.. ROFL ....That's so creative!!!.... Rep

(Oops.... wait a minute!!)

CoMoChief
05-19-2005, 08:42 AM
Seriously, Rice should just retire while he can still walk. The guy has his records, is a shoe in for the hall, and has a bank full of cash. Why risk a serious injury at this point in his life?

I dunno man, I guess some NFL players fall into denial of some sort when they stop playing pro, well all pro athletes to a degree. That's why MJ came back (yeah I know it's MJ). Thats why Julio Franco (Braves) is still playing at 47 years old. Having said all of this, if I was in Rice's situation, given all the Super Bowls hes won and the money he's made and the lock for the Hall, Retiring seems the smart thing to do.

Rain Man
05-19-2005, 08:45 AM
I tend to think that guys like Rice get miffed if it appears that they're not a hot commodity any more, so then they want to "re-prove" themselves. It just goes downhill from there.

Mile High Mania
05-19-2005, 08:52 AM
A foot race between him and Clarett in training camp would be pretty interesting.

I wonder if Clarett can beat out Coyer in the 40?

Mile High Mania
05-19-2005, 08:55 AM
Worst thing for Rice is to continue to drag it out. He will always be known as the greatest ever, but the final images of his playing days will be sad.

Especially if he signs, then gets rocked by a guy on a pass play and gets seriously injured. Just not the way to go out.

I thought the same of Emmitt, but at least he went out with a bit of a bang last season... 937 yards and 9 TDs. Granted, losing team and as a Cardinal, but much better than most expected him to end.

bobbything
05-19-2005, 08:59 AM
Rice was only decent in Oakland when Rich Gannon was throwing him the ball. What's gonna happen when Plummer starts chucking shitbombs in his direction?

Maybe Rice will have flashes of his 49'er days when Steve Young was throwing him the ball. Would make sense with Plummer cocking back left handed all the time.

Mile High Mania
05-19-2005, 09:03 AM
Rice was only decent in Oakland when Rich Gannon was throwing him the ball. What's gonna happen when Plummer starts chucking shitbombs in his direction?

Maybe Rice will have flashes of his 49'er days when Steve Young was throwing him the ball. Would make sense with Plummer cocking back left handed all the time.

There are really only 1-2 designed left handed INT lobs in the playbook, he doesn't do it all the time. As for Rice, I think his decline was more in line with hitting 40.

Dude should retire.

ChiTown
05-19-2005, 09:07 AM
Good lawd, the BrownCows are morphing into the Raiduh's..........

Mile High Mania
05-19-2005, 09:12 AM
Good lawd, the BrownCows are morphing into the Raiduh's..........

Enh, not exactly.

KC Dan
05-19-2005, 09:16 AM
Enh, not exactly.
The Denver Browns

Goapics1
05-19-2005, 09:16 AM
This signing will put the donkeys over the top. Not.

Mile High Mania
05-19-2005, 09:17 AM
The Denver Browns

C'mon, it's the Browncos. That flows much better....

Hercules Rockefell
05-19-2005, 09:18 AM
Good to see that the possibility of Denver signing someone who will be their #4 WR gets some discussion on CP.

Taco John
05-19-2005, 09:27 AM
This is the greatest move of all time...


/it's lame

Rain Man
05-19-2005, 09:28 AM
Jim Brown is thinking that he could do pretty well in Denver, too.

Taco John
05-19-2005, 09:36 AM
Jim Brown is thinking that he could do pretty well in Denver, too.


1200-1500 yards...

vailpass
05-19-2005, 11:46 AM
Taking a Hall of Fame player who is now past his prime and used to play for the 49'ers?
Never.
Why, who would do such a thing?
o:-)

Demonpenz
05-19-2005, 12:11 PM
rice might be the best football player of all time. He might be the last player that is still on super tecmo bowl that is active

Mile High Mania
05-19-2005, 01:50 PM
rice might be the best football player of all time. He might be the last player that is still on super tecmo bowl that is active

Wow... just think. Rice came into the league in 1985.


The Bears beat the Patriots in the SuperBowl that year.
The Chiefs were 6-10 ... hell, only 1 game better 19 years later... :p
Raiders and Rams were both LA teams.
There were 28 teams in the league.
The Cardinals were in St Louis.

Gerald Riggs had the most rush attempts.
Marcus Allen had the most rushing yards.
Roger Craig had the most receptions.
Steve Largent had the most receiving yards.
Marino & Elway were 1 and 2 with completions and yards.

Todd Blackledge and Bill Kenney split time at QB with your Chiefs.
Herman Heard was KC's leading rusher.
Stephone Paige and Carlos Carson were KC's leading receivers.

HemiEd
05-19-2005, 02:00 PM
Well, while some of the FA signings aren't "flashy"... it's not like Denver had a whole lot to overhaul.

They should be fine at receiver as long as Rod remains healthy and Lelie builds upon a fine season in 2004. There is a lot of potential in Watts, as he showed some great things in 2004 as well as the standard rookie issues.

Right now, those are the big 3 with guys like Luke, BJ and others vying for the final spots. They retained Putz and signed Alexander for depth and blocking purposes in the offense, so that should be ok. The only thing I could see Rice doing is adding another weapon in the 4-5 receiver sets or in the redzone where Denver didn't exactly do well last year.

If Rice is thinking of anything other than filling in as a #3 at times or having any more of an impact than that, he can move on. I could see him being a factor (great hands, still has some moves) in the red zone.

I wouldn't mind seeing Denver line up with Rod, Lelie, Watts, Putz and Rice at the 20. That's about the only situation aside from being an insurance policy should one of the top 3 get hurt.

They have added more depth at RB with Dayne and Clarett, going along with Bell, Anderson and Quentin. QG shouldn't even factor in to the RB debate in my mind, he's a fumble machine.

The many CBs selected in the draft was odd, but the first guy (the midget) isn't going to be in the CB mix, he's slotted for a return specialist.

Lots of questions about how the Dline experiment goes, but the good thing is they have lots of depth. Brown and Warren are the only guys expected to start, and Ekubahn has nice upside as a rotation guy. One of the many issues in Cleveland was the LBs... the dline had no support from the LBs.

This offseason was apparently about filling depth needs and I'm fine with that, but I do hope that Walls is ready to start again with Bailey.

I'm curious to see what happens if they pick up (or trade) for the Carolina punter. I'm fine either way, but sounds like he wants a lot of cash. We'll see what happens.

Denver isn't in bad shape at all, the key is they need their Dline to step up and they need Bell to be the featured back that he is capable of being.


Very nicely done! I am sold! Broncos should be good enough to come in a real solid third in the AFC west this year.

Mile High Mania
05-19-2005, 02:35 PM
Very nicely done! I am sold! Broncos should be good enough to come in a real solid third in the AFC west this year.

Glad to see you're already 7 deep into the 12 pack of RedNGold kool aid.

HemiEd
05-19-2005, 03:01 PM
Glad to see you're already 7 deep into the 12 pack of RedNGold kool aid.
ROFL