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4th and Long
05-22-2005, 10:22 AM
This was posted on another board I frequent. I'd like some decent takes on this before I reply. Mind you, this fan is a very nice individual and this was not posted out of spite or mean spiritedness or anything else along those lines.



Let Bell Run

The Chiefs aren't sure whether to play linebacker Kendrell Bell in the middle of their 4-3 defense or on the outside. Take it from the Steelers, putting Kendrell Bell at outside linebacker in a 4-3 defense where he must cover receivers would be like stuffing Tinker Bell in a bottle.

Note to Chiefs: Bell's forte is not in coverage, it's going forward, and he has a burst doing that like few other linebackers, which helped make him the NFL's defensive rookie of the year in 2001. If you're not going to play him in the middle, why sign him?

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05142/508546.stm

Ultra Peanut
05-22-2005, 10:25 AM
Every planet we reach is dead.

4th and Long
05-22-2005, 10:27 AM
Every planet we reach is dead.
:spock:

You call that helping? :shake:

Ultra Peanut
05-22-2005, 10:30 AM
"I'm helping! I'm helping!"

<img src="http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=42177&stc=1" style="width: 300px; height: 372px; border: 0" alt="" />

I just realized that it's Booty Brown from the Pharcyde doing the rap in "Dirty Harry."

4th and Long
05-22-2005, 10:31 AM
:cuss: Here comes iggy! :cuss:

Ultra Peanut
05-22-2005, 10:31 AM
Sorry. I'll go contaminate some other thread.

unlurking
05-22-2005, 11:33 AM
Uhh, Bell never played the middle?

In a 3-4 his role was more easily compared to an OLB in a 4-3.

Look at his sack records. You do not get those numbers in the middle. The question then remains, do you want him to "anchor" the middle of the D and kill anything that comes by (normally RBs), or do you want to let him run loose on the QB? Of course he'll have to cover occasionally, but that's life.

4th and Long
05-22-2005, 11:37 AM
Finally! A real reply! Than you unlurking. :thumb:

Anyone else? :shrug:

Thig Lyfe
05-22-2005, 12:46 PM
Finally! A real reply! Than you unlurking. :thumb:

Anyone else? :shrug:

"F you"

Oh, wait, it's a nice person. That might suprise him.

milkman
05-22-2005, 02:32 PM
Gun really wants to utilize Bell in a similiar role to DT.
DT did one thing, and he did it better than anyone else in the 90s.
He rushed the QB, and in that capacity, he was a playmaker.
He wasn't asked to be a pass coverage LB.
He wasn't a run stuffer.

Elsewhere on this forum, someone pointed out that Cower tried to do other things with DT, Marty asked why?

Bell is a a better run defender than DT, but his primary responsibility will be getting after the QB.

milkman
05-22-2005, 02:40 PM
Gun really wants to utilize Bell in a similiar role to DT.
DT did one thing, and he did it better than anyone else in the 90s.
He rushed the QB, and in that capacity, he was a playmaker.
He wasn't asked to be a pass coverage LB.
He wasn't a run stuffer.

Elsewhere on this forum, someone pointed out that Cower tried to do other things with DT, Marty asked why?

Bell is a a better run defender than DT, but his primary responsibility will be getting after the QB.

And one other thing.
The MLB in Gun's scheme has more pass coverage resonsibilty than the Will (ROLB).

jspchief
05-22-2005, 04:55 PM
Sorry, but I agree with the guy. I've been saying it all along. I don't think he'll be effective as an OLB in a 4-3 defense. Like the Steelers fan said, he'll get exposed in pass coverage.

milkman
05-22-2005, 05:37 PM
So 4th, did you reply to Pittsburgh yet?

4th and Long
05-22-2005, 05:43 PM
So 4th, did you reply to Pittsburgh yet?
Yes sir, I did. I am currently waiting on a reply. The poster in question (on another board) usually takes their sweet time, sometimes days, before responding. Thank you for your input, SideWinder. :thumb:

milkman
05-22-2005, 05:47 PM
Yes sir, I did. I am currently waiting on a reply. The poster in question (on another board) usually takes their sweet time, sometimes days, before responding. Thank you for your input, SideWinder. :thumb:

I was hoping to find out his response.
When he does respond, can you let me know what he had to say.

Getting a Steeler fan perspective on Bell can be interesting.

4th and Long
05-22-2005, 05:52 PM
I was hoping to find out his response.
When he does respond, can you let me know what he had to say.

Getting a Steeler fan perspective on Bell can be interesting.
Since you asked nicely :D I will be happy to post any reply that is made by the afore mentioned Burg fan. :)

milkman
05-22-2005, 05:57 PM
Thanks 4th.

TRR
05-22-2005, 06:44 PM
I can't help you defend him because I agree with him. In a 4-3 scheme, Bell would be a better fit at MLB, especially when we have a gaping hole there. However, anywhere Bell plays will significantly upgrade our LB corp.

Bowser
05-22-2005, 06:52 PM
I can't help you defend him because I agree with him. In a 4-3 scheme, Bell would be a better fit at MLB, especially when we have a gaping hole there. However, anywhere Bell plays will significantly upgrade our LB corp.

I agree with all of this. However, we really shouldn't get worked up at Bell playing the outside at the first set of OTA's. My guess is that they have him penciled in at middle, and are just experimenting with him right now at the outside.

In the end, I think our 3 best LB'ers should be on the field (barring injury) against the Jets, and I think those three will be Bell, Fujita*, and DJ.


*I reserve the right to change my mind about Fujita since he has his injury he's dealing with.

Ultra Peanut
05-22-2005, 08:42 PM
Screw labels. I believe Gun.

4th and Long
05-22-2005, 08:54 PM
SideWinder,

Here's a reply, but from a different Pitt fan regarding this statement:
And one other thing.
The MLB in Gun's scheme has more pass coverage resonsibilty than the Will (ROLB).
Not smacking here,but this could be one of the reasons why your defense is...well....you know...sketchy.
Bell is first and foremost a run stuffer and qb chaser second,that shouldn't change,its his strength.What he has left anyways.

milkman
05-22-2005, 09:07 PM
SideWinder,

Here's a reply, but from a different Pitt fan regarding this statement:

Not smacking here,but this could be one of the reasons why your defense is...well....you know...sketchy.
Bell is first and foremost a run stuffer and qb chaser second,that shouldn't change,its his strength.What he has left anyways.

If this is true, and It could very well be, Pitt fan will know better than me, it really doesn't make much of a difference in the big picture.

The original question from the original poster was about pass coverage.
Bell isn't going to be relied on heavily in pass coverage.

Our D was "scetchy" because we simply lacked talent, playmakers, and team leaders.
In Bell, Surtain, Knight, and DJ, we've added those elements.

Oh, and you might want to tell Steeler fan, "pathetic" would be a better word to describe our D of the last 4 years.

Ultra Peanut
05-22-2005, 09:08 PM
Yeah. "Sketchy" would be a compliment...

Fire Me Boy!
05-22-2005, 09:13 PM
I'm good with "sketchy" as our d.... but it's not "sketchy" it's "total crap."

Wallcrawler
05-23-2005, 12:16 AM
Gun will most likely use Bell to rush the passer most every down, as he did with Derrick Thomas.

Right now, Kendrell Bell is without question the Chiefs best pass rushing linebacker. And as Marty Schottenheimer asked Bill Cowher when he was D-Coordinator, why would you ever have your best pass rushing linebacker running away from the quarterback at the snap of the ball?

Bell most likely wont be asked to cover. With his disruptive speed and pass rushing ability, he will be attacking the line of scrimmage most every down. I really think that if coverage falls to any of our linebackers, it would fall to Derrick Johnson who has shown ability to not only cover, but also intercept the football, setting the Texas school record for picks by a linebacker with nine interceptions.

When Gun was running our defenses back when they were awesome, Derrick Thomas was rushing every single down. He was never asked to drop into coverage, so Gunther is already familiar with calling defenses in that style, always sending at least one linebacker after the quarterback.

Hopefully with Bell and Johnson added to the field, Mitchell can play his position at middle better than he did last season.

HemiEd
05-23-2005, 03:15 AM
Maybe Gun has this in mind?

Ultra Peanut
05-23-2005, 03:15 AM
ROFL

Braincase
05-23-2005, 06:16 AM
We don't need Bell in the middle. We're loaded there with Scanlon, Mazlowski and Kawicka "Ejector Seat" Mitchell, and we haven't even mentioned our MLB of the future, Boomer Grigsby (son of Bill Brasky).

Mecca
05-23-2005, 06:26 AM
I wonder if all of Kansas City sat down and watched that NFLE game just to see our defensive savoir Rich Scanlon out there.

As has been said if Bell plays the middle in a 4-3 you take away pretty much all of his blitz ability.Middle linebackers in a 4-3 get maybe 2-3 sacks in a season unless they play in some bizarre scheme.