Just sitting down after a huge leg routine and sushi

[BIG_DADDY]

To a nice glass of Makers Mark and a Cuban Cohiba from Habana.


NICE!!! :)

[Bwana]

To a nice glass of Makers Mark and a Cuban Cohiba from Habana.


NICE!!! :)

Very nice indeed. Sleep has not been my friend for the last two nights. Once again I decided if I can't sleep, I should get up. This time I am cracking a few Alaskan Ambers. The Cuban Cohiba sounds like a great plan. It's been about a year since I have had of pleasure of one of those bad boys.

[Rausch]

Very nice indeed. Sleep has not been my friend for the last two nights. Once again I decided if I can't sleep, I should get up. This time I am cracking a few Alaskan Ambers. The Cuban Cohiba sounds like a great plan. It's been about a year since I have had of pleasure of one of those bad boys.

Try turkey and reading. I hear that's supposed to work.

Oh, and I have no idea what Makers mark is...

[BIG_DADDY]

Very nice indeed. Sleep has not been my friend for the last two nights. Once again I decided if I can't sleep, I should get up. This time I am cracking a few Alaskan Ambers. The Cuban Cohiba sounds like a great plan. It's been about a year since I have had of pleasure of one of those bad boys.

Not being able to sleep sucks. How often do you have that problem?

[Bwana]

Not being able to sleep sucks. How often do you have that problem?

Not very often, but this is the second night in a row. :shake:

[BIG_DADDY]

Try turkey and reading. I hear that's supposed to work.

Oh, and I have no idea what Makers mark is...

Kentucky bourbon, goes great with a cigar.

[BIG_DADDY]

Not very often, but this is the second night in a row. :shake:

Gotta be stress with the workouts you have been doing unless your doing your cardio late. I have to get those vitamins out to you as well. This week I have had so much going on I forget to bring them with me when I go to work. I will get them out next week. Sorry for being a slacker.

[Phobia]

I had 3 Cuban torpedo Cohibas this weekend. They cost me almost $30,000.

In about 10 minutes, I'm going to bust some ribs off ENDelt's new grill and have myself a party.

[Bwana]

Gotta be stress with the workouts you have been doing unless your doing your cardio late. I have to get those vitamins out to you as well. This week I have had so much going on I forget to bring them with me when I go to work. I will get them out next week. Sorry for being a slacker.

Yeah, I have been busting my azz with hardcore weight training workouts so I think you may be right. I think I may be over training? I have been sticking to morning only for the cardio as well because I could NEVER go to sleep when I kick boxed at night. :shake: As far as the vitamins, I'm looking forward to getting those as well. :)

[BIG_DADDY]

I had 3 Cuban torpedo Cohibas this weekend. They cost me almost $30,000.

In about 10 minutes, I'm going to bust some ribs off ENDelt's new grill and have myself a party.

30k wow mine was a gift I guess I'm lucky. ;)

[BIG_DADDY]

Yeah, I have been busting my azz with hardcore weight training workouts so I think you may be right. I think I may be over training? I have been sticking to morning only for the cardio as well because I could NEVER go to sleep when I kick boxed at night. :shake: As far as the vitamins, I'm looking forward to getting those as well. :)

Weight lifting can cause some problems but cardio within 4 hours of sleeping will keep you up big time. It inceases the amount of oxygen in your blood and makes it really hard to sleep.

[Bwana]

Weight lifting can cause some problems but cardio within 4 hours of sleeping will keep you up big time. It inceases the amount of oxygen in your blood and makes it really hard to sleep.

I don't know what the heck it is. I have caught my second wind just before bed two nights in a row now, but the tasty beverages are starting to kick in. Sleep in in my very near future. :thumb:

[BIG_DADDY]

I don't know what the heck it is. I have caught my second wind just before bed two nights in a row now, but the tasty beverages are starting to kick in. Sleep in in my very near future. :thumb:

Gotta make it out to Montana. Betten I no have issues sleepen under the big sky.

[Branden Albert's Huge Balls]

I had 3 Cuban torpedo Cohibas this weekend. They cost me almost $30,000.

In about 10 minutes, I'm going to bust some ribs off ENDelt's new grill and have myself a party.

What the hell? How can you spend 10 grand on a cigar?

[Phobia]

What the hell? How can you spend 10 grand on a cigar?

Have you read any of the threads about my stolen car in Mexico?

[Biohazard]

Any luck with that, I read some of them but im not real sure where to find them now?

[Bwana]

Any luck with that, I read some of them but im not real sure where to find them now?

That makes one of us? Where the hell was I? I missed the whole, " Juan Valdez boosted my rig" thread.

[Biohazard]

Right here!!!need a truck??? (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=116782)

[Freekofnature]

Yeah, I have been busting my azz with hardcore weight training workouts so I think you may be right. I think I may be over training? I have been sticking to morning only for the cardio as well because I could NEVER go to sleep when I kick boxed at night. :shake: As far as the vitamins, I'm looking forward to getting those as well. :)
You should not weight train more than 90 minutes or do it everyday or consecutively.

Its extremely unnecessary to train hardcore unless you are a serious and professional competitor in sports.

overtraining will burn you out.

[Donger]

Damn. I thought this thread was about leg hygiene.

Excuse me.

[StcChief]

Makers Mark is good stuff.

Had some Woodward Reserve last night on ice. Excellent.

NO cigar though.

[Bwana]

You should not weight train more than 90 minutes or do it everyday or consecutively.

Its extremely unnecessary to train hardcore unless you are a serious and professional competitor in sports.

overtraining will burn you out.
What I have been doing is training (lifting 5 days a week) hard using different muscel groups every day. Cardio 6 days week. Kick boxing or running and doing crunches ever other day.

I have no clue if that is over doing it or not? I fought at a national level in martial arts for years, so I know how to listen to my body and other than to two sleepless nights, nothing out of the ordinary. I have been drinking a gallon of water a day, eating 6 small meals a day and getting with plenty of whey to build the lean muscel which is going well.

If I start to feel burned out, I will cut back. About one more night of 5 hours sleep and I will be in that zone. :shake:

What are your thoughts Troy?

[BIG_DADDY]

Makers Mark is good stuff.

Had some Woodward Reserve last night on ice. Excellent.

NO cigar though.

Yea well I had more than my fair share of it too as I arrived at work 30 minutes late today. Oh well, it was worth it.

[BIG_DADDY]

What I have been doing is training (lifting 5 days a week) hard using different muscel groups every day. Cardio 6 days week. Kick boxing or running and doing crunches ever other day.

I have no clue if that is over doing it or not? I fought at a national level in martial arts for years, so I know how to listen to my body and other than to two sleepless nights, nothing out of the ordinary. I have been drinking a gallon of water a day, eating 6 small meals a day and getting with plenty of whey to build the lean muscel which is going well.

If I start to feel burned out, I will cut back. About one more night of 5 hours sleep and I will be in that zone. :shake:

What are your thoughts Troy?

I sure wish I could train that much.

[ENDelt260]

Oh, and I have no idea what Makers mark is...

Wh-- wh-- what?!?!? You're fired.

And you call yourself a drunk.

[Bwana]

I sure wish I could train that much.
Well, I put on about 20 pounds this winter and have smoked at least half of it. It's hard to tell because with the lean muscle, (at least 10 pounds of new) the scale doesn't move as much as if a guy were only doing cardio and eating right. I want to be in great shape for the mountains again this year so I am busting my tail.

[Freekofnature]

What I have been doing is training (lifting 5 days a week) hard using different muscel groups every day. Cardio 6 days week. Kick boxing or running and doing crunches ever other day.

I have no clue if that is over doing it or not? I fought at a national level in martial arts for years, so I know how to listen to my body and other than to two sleepless nights, nothing out of the ordinary. I have been drinking a gallon of water a day, eating 6 small meals a day and getting with plenty of whey to build the lean muscel which is going well.

If I start to feel burned out, I will cut back. About one more night of 5 hours sleep and I will be in that zone. :shake:

What are your thoughts Troy?

Your body might be fit, but it isn't healthy.


(lifting 5 days a week) hard using different muscel groups every day. Cardio 6 days week. Kick boxing or running and doing crunches ever other day.

That is just insane.

You don't give your body a chance to grow with your routines. I think you should only lift 2 or 3 times a week and do less cardio days too. You are on a course for a major burnout and not much results.

[Otter]

Your body might be fit, but it isn't healthy.



That is just insane.

You don't give your body a chance to grow with your routines. I think you should only lift 2 or 3 times a week and do less cardio days too. You are on a course for a major burnout and not much results.

Is your name Troy?

[BIG_DADDY]

Your body might be fit, but it isn't healthy.



That is just insane.

You don't give your body a chance to grow with your routines. I think you should only lift 2 or 3 times a week and do less cardio days too. You are on a course for a major burnout.

Each body part can be worked every 5 days. It's how it's broken down not how many times he's lifting. I lift 4 times a week but each muscle group is only being hit once which is more than enough time to rebuild. He says he is hitting seperate muscle groups each of those days which is is once a week and fine. To say what he is doing is unhealthy is just ridiculous.

[Freekofnature]

Is your name Troy?
Get off my back.

Is it your job to police around here?

I don't know how long he has been on that course, but it will eat him alive.

[Freekofnature]

Each body part can be worked every 5 days. It's how it's broken down not how many times he's lifting. I lift 4 times a week but each muscle group is only being hit once which is more than enough time to rebuild. He says he is hitting seperate muscle groups each of those days which is is once a week and fine. To say what he is doing is unhealthy is just ridiculous.
Your body needs to rest in order to heal. Doing cardio six days and weight lifting consecutively the body consumes energy and doesnt give the body a chance to repair the muscle. It will only have catabolic results.

If he took out the cardios, it wouldn't be too bad, but he has cardio 6 days and with kickboxing training.

[BIG_DADDY]

Your body needs to rest in order to heal. Doing cardio six days and weight lifting consecutively the body consumes energy and doesnt give the body a chance to repair the muscle. It will only have catabolic results.

If he took out the cardios, it wouldn't be too bad, but he has cardio 6 days and with kickboxing training.

Dude I have been training athletes for most of my life. He is not anywhere near overtraining.

[Bwana]

I don't know, so far my body feels good and I am getting good results. You may be right on the burnout, but I will cross that bridge and slow down when and if I get there. After two rank nights of sleep in a row I was off the power workout today and just did 30 minutes of cardio and smoked the biceps. I am going to do ZERO tomorrow. Heh! Other than work my right arm tossing a fly line. :)

[Freekofnature]

Dude I have been training athletes for most of my life. He is not anywhere near overtraining.

Maybe not. It resembles a professional fighters routine.
We'll see down the road if it's the right kind of training for him.

[Freekofnature]

I don't know, so far my body feels good and I am getting good results. You may be right on the burnout, but I will cross that bridge and slow down when and if I get there. After two rank nights of sleep in a row I was off the power workout today and just did 30 minutes of cardio and smoked the biceps. I am going to do ZERO tomorrow.
Yea don't force yourself. Don't get caught up too much on the "if it aint hurt you aint training" motto.

Good luck on the training.

[Freekofnature]

I don't know, so far my body feels good and I am getting good results. You may be right on the burnout, but I will cross that bridge and slow down when and if I get there. After two rank nights of sleep in a row I was off the power workout today and just did 30 minutes of cardio and smoked the biceps. I am going to do ZERO tomorrow. Heh! Other than work my right arm tossing a fly line. :)
By the way here is a site that talks about overtraining. More like sites.

http://www.fitnessbusiness-pro.com/mag/fitness_signs_overtraining/
http://exercise.about.com/cs/exercisehealth/a/toomuchexercise.htm
http://www.trifuel.com/triathlon/triathlon-training/overtraining-syndrome-000134.php

[Bwana]

Maybe not. It resembles a professional fighters routine.
We'll see down the road if it's the right kind of training for him.

Bingo! It's the same basic routine I used for 10 of my 23 years in martial arts. As long as I listen to my body, I am ok. I have a feeling I will be fine for at least another month before I have to adjust it AS LONG AS I GET ENOUGH SLEEP. :hmmm:

[BIG_DADDY]

I don't know, so far my body feels good and I am getting good results. You may be right on the burnout, but I will cross that bridge and slow down when and if I get there. After two rank nights of sleep in a row I was off the power workout today and just did 30 minutes of cardio and smoked the biceps. I am going to do ZERO tomorrow. Heh! Other than work my right arm tossing a fly line. :)

When I was training with the Gracie's and they were training somebody for a fight they would roll for 3 hours, 6 days a week. Weights 3 days a week on a push pull triple split routine with swimming on the other 3 days and take one day off a week. It sounds like you know exactly what your doing. You have been an athlete all your life I am sure you will recognize if your body is starting to break down. Cardio will kill your sleeping if you do it within 4 hours of sleep. Weight training keeps me up a bit later like last night that's why I take a 1 hour nap after work on those nights.

[Otter]

You should have seen Greg hiding in the bathroom when we were in Cook City and the red haired guy with the lazy eyeball was threatning him with a spork.

Martial arts...bah!

[KC Kings]

Your body needs to rest in order to heal. Doing cardio six days and weight lifting consecutively the body consumes energy and doesnt give the body a chance to repair the muscle. It will only have catabolic results.

If he took out the cardios, it wouldn't be too bad, but he has cardio 6 days and with kickboxing training.

I am not sure what catabolic means, and he is working out a lot, but to even the weakest work out routines go three days a week, and the 3 days on 2 days off routine is one of the most popular routines for guys that I know (non-athletes, just lifting) which is 5 days a week.

To say that "cardio" every day is bad is also incorrect. Say his cardio is a bike ride or a jog. How is that going to impact the muscle rest in his chest or tri's, or back or bi's or shoulders?

I'm no expert but I have read a lot of material on the subject, and the only thing I have ever read about "too much cardio" while lifting is not gaining as much muscle mass, but as long as he isn't trying to look like Ronnie Coleman, what's the problem?

[BIG_DADDY]

I am not sure what catabolic means, and he is working out a lot, but to even the weakest work out routines go three days a week, and the 3 days on 2 days off routine is one of the most popular routines for guys that I know (non-athletes, just lifting) which is 5 days a week.

To say that "cardio" every day is bad is also incorrect. Say his cardio is a bike ride or a jog. How is that going to impact the muscle rest in his chest or tri's, or back or bi's or shoulders?

I'm no expert but I have read a lot of material on the subject, and the only thing I have ever read about "too much cardio" while lifting is not gaining as much muscle mass, but as long as he isn't trying to look like Ronnie Coleman, what's the problem?

You were saying in another thread that you used to live in Vallejo?

[Bwana]

You should have seen Greg hiding in the bathroom when we were in Cook City and the red haired guy with the lazy eyeball was threatning him with a spork.

Martial arts...bah!
ROFL No, that wasn't me, it was you. It also wasn't a red haired guy with a lazy eye, it was a midget. I will give you this, he was an mean looking little bastard! I think I would have got the hell out of there myself. :hmmm:

[Bwana]

By the way here is a site that talks about overtraining. More like sites.

http://www.fitnessbusiness-pro.com/mag/fitness_signs_overtraining/
http://exercise.about.com/cs/exercisehealth/a/toomuchexercise.htm
http://www.trifuel.com/triathlon/triathlon-training/overtraining-syndrome-000134.php

Thanks for the links.

[KC Kings]

You were saying in another thread that you used to live in Vallejo?
Sort of. I was stationed at Mare Island for a couple of years.

[Bwana]

I am not sure what catabolic means, and he is working out a lot, but to even the weakest work out routines go three days a week, and the 3 days on 2 days off routine is one of the most popular routines for guys that I know (non-athletes, just lifting) which is 5 days a week.

To say that "cardio" every day is bad is also incorrect. Say his cardio is a bike ride or a jog. How is that going to impact the muscle rest in his chest or tri's, or back or bi's or shoulders?

I'm no expert but I have read a lot of material on the subject, and the only thing I have ever read about "too much cardio" while lifting is not gaining as much muscle mass, but as long as he isn't trying to look like Ronnie Coleman, what's the problem?

I am trying to do three things.

1. Add lean muscle mass.

2. Smoke the the last 10 of the 20 pounds of ditchpig I put on this winter. :)

3. Build up my cardio big time for the times I am up around 10,000 feet this summer hooking it around the mountains.

I have never put on an extra 20 pounds in my life and hell will freeze over before I ever do that crap again. :shake:

[BIG_DADDY]

Sort of. I was stationed at Mare Island for a couple of years.

That's a rough area. I ran the 24 hour fitness there and refused to even get a place to live while I lived there. I made them put me up in the Ramada the entire time I was there straightening out their troubled club.

[KC Kings]

That's a rough area. I ran the 24 hour fitness there and refused to even get a place to live while I lived there. I made them put me up in the Ramada the entire time I was there straightening out their troubled club.
Yeah, I lived out in town with friend and his family for a couple months, but in one weekend his car was stolen and two next neighbors were shot execution style, so his family moved back home until got stationed elsewhere.

We used to go the Horse and Cow to drink and would go to Napoli's pizza on foot and never had any problems. Most of the violence there was between blacks and hispanics, and they didn't know what think about some drunk white guys walking through their neighborhood.

[BIG_DADDY]

Yeah, I lived out in town with friend and his family for a couple months, but in one weekend his car was stolen and two next neighbors were shot execution style, so his family moved back home until got stationed elsewhere.

We used to go the Horse and Cow to drink and would go to Napoli's pizza on foot and never had any problems. Most of the violence there was between blacks and hispanics, and they didn't know what think about some drunk white guys walking through their neighborhood.

1st day on the job it became apparent that I needed to hire right away. The previous manager left an application on his desk saying he was supposed to interview this guy who had a good background the day before but he didn't show up. So I go and call this guy and ask him if he is still interested in applying. "I'm not working there" he shouted over the phone at me. I kind of chucked and asked him why not. Apparently he got car jacked a few blocks from the club. ROFL

Few weeks later it becomes obvious to me that that anyone with IQ had moved out of the area so I try shipping in this orney white boy from the Santa Rosa club by promising to leave him the club which would have been a promotion for him when I left. Well he was smarter than that so I decided I would try bribing him. I invited him out for dinner and were planned on telling him I would even write business for him. We stopped by my suite at the Ramada for a couple quick cocktails before dinner and some ****ing gang bangers went behind the shopping center right in front of my door. One car chasing another both of them shooting at each other. Dude looks at me and says "there is nothing you could offer me that would ever get me to work out here" That place is a ****ing shit hole. I am lucky I got out of that club in one piece being as I had to clean it up.

[Freekofnature]

I am not sure what catabolic means, and he is working out a lot, but to even the weakest work out routines go three days a week, and the 3 days on 2 days off routine is one of the most popular routines for guys that I know (non-athletes, just lifting) which is 5 days a week.

To say that "cardio" every day is bad is also incorrect. Say his cardio is a bike ride or a jog. How is that going to impact the muscle rest in his chest or tri's, or back or bi's or shoulders?

I'm no expert but I have read a lot of material on the subject, and the only thing I have ever read about "too much cardio" while lifting is not gaining as much muscle mass, but as long as he isn't trying to look like Ronnie Coleman, what's the problem?
cardio everyday is unnecessary. Every other day would do just fine.

Your body heals when you are at rest and sleeping which are passive states.

Lifting and doing cardio puts your body in active mode which is your body spending energy.

I agree Cardio combined with Lifting isn't a bad thing at all and sometimes I would recommend it, but Bwana's just looked excessive.

We'll just see down the road.

[BIG_DADDY]

cardio everyday is unnecessary. Every other day would do just fine.

Your body heals when you are at rest and sleeping which are passive states.

Lifting and doing cardio puts your body in active mode which is your body spending energy.

I agree Cardio combined with Lifting isn't a bad thing at all and sometimes I would recommend it, but Bwana's just looked excessive.

We'll just see down the road.

People who have worked out their entire life usually know when their overtraining, you feel it in your joints.

[Otter]

ROFL No, that wasn't me, it was you. It also wasn't a red haired guy with a lazy eye, it was a midget. I will give you this, he was an mean looking little bastard! I think I would have got the hell out of there myself. :hmmm:

I didn't like the way he was sneering at me. I don't like those Montana midgets, their like little clowns.

Ive been stirring shit all day. I'm going fly fishing up the Catskills in about 2 hours and I'm antsy as a muth fuka. I wanna get out of here dammit.


:cuss:

[Freekofnature]

People who have worked out their entire life usually know when their overtraining, you feel it in your joints.
I'm not trying to disagree, but your body tends to get used that type of stuff unless you are really overdoing it.

I remember when I first started working out I worked out 6 days a week with two separate routines which I would switch between everyday and i got used to the overload and the pain during the workout, but developed problems out of it.

I got better results with rest between lifting days and simpler routines.

But everybody is different. Who am I to say your thoughts are wrong.

I guess do whatever works for you.

[Bwana]

I didn't like the way he was sneering at me. I don't like those Montana midgets, their like little clowns.

Ive been stirring shit all day. I'm going fly fishing up the Catskills in about 2 hours and I'm antsy as a muth fuka. I wanna get out of here dammit.


:cuss:

Well good luck! I hope you haul in some Hawgs.

[Branden Albert's Huge Balls]

Have you read any of the threads about my stolen car in Mexico?

No.