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tk13
06-18-2005, 10:04 PM
Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+
| 2001 phi | 15 | 21 283 13.5 1 |
| 2002 phi | 16 | 12 105 8.8 0 |
| 2003 phi | 16 | 35 498 14.2 2 |
| 2004 phi | 16 | 22 377 17.1 2 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+
| TOTAL | 63 | 90 1263 14.0 5 |


There is Freddie Mitchell's career numbers.

Year Opp Result | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
2001 chi W,33-19 | 2 14 0
2001 ram L,24-29 | 1 2 0
2003 gnb W,20-17 | 2 37 0
2003 car L,3-14 | 4 38 0
2004 min W,27-14 | 5 65 1
2004 atl W,27-10 | 2 20 0
*2004 nwe L,21-24 | 1 11 0
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
TOTAL 17 187 1


There is the postseason numbers.

Going through the regular season game logs, one thing I noticed is that most of Freddie's biggest games all came towards the end of the season. I guess it should be noted that remember he played for the Eagles, who wrapped up the division early several times over the past few years.

14 of his 69 catches (20%) over the last 3 years have come in the final game of each season. Mitchell has had 4+ catches in a game during his career 5 times, and 3 of the 5 times were in the last game of a season.

Here is Mitchell's career numbers if you take away the last two weeks in each season.


Freddie Mitchell, first 14 games, career:
Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Rec Yards TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+
| 2001 phi | 13 | 19 253 1 |
| 2002 phi | 14 | 6 53 0 |
| 2003 phi | 14 | 29 428 1 |
| 2004 phi | 14 | 14 273 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+
| TOTAL | 55 | 68 1007 2 |
| |
|LST 2 GMS | 8 | 22 246 3 |

There at the bottom is the comparison between career numbers during the first 14 games (TOTAL), then career numbers in the last 2 games of each season. What this means, I don't know.....but it's the biggest trend I noticed when looking at his career numbers. I report, you decide, or something like that.

stevieray
06-18-2005, 10:07 PM
he did make some big catches in the NFC Championship game, IIRC.

tk13
06-18-2005, 10:12 PM
he did make some big catches in the NFC Championship game, IIRC.
I added those for your viewing pleasure...

stevieray
06-18-2005, 10:17 PM
I added those for your viewing pleasure...

Makes you wonder if they even make it to the SB.

That's two philly WR's not getting along with McNabb.

I saw him on the sideleine today, it didn't dawn on me who he was, till EK made a diving catch and said something to him afterwards.


It would be a huge credit to CJ if he can revive his career like he did Eddie's.

Cochise
06-18-2005, 10:24 PM
'02 was a year that McNabb only completed 200 passes anyway. Outside of that, he has 3rd WR numbers. TDs are low but Philly gets a lot of receiving touchdowns to tight ends and their backfield, seems like they look for them near the goalline.

Being a WR-poor team, I don't think it's a stretch to have a pretty good passing team's 3rd elevated to our 2nd. We can take a chance on him for a 1 year deal. Especially if he still has that 4.4 speed in him.

the Talking Can
06-18-2005, 10:39 PM
Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+
| 2001 phi | 15 | 21 283 13.5 1 |
| 2002 phi | 16 | 12 105 8.8 0 |
| 2003 phi | 16 | 35 498 14.2 2 |
| 2004 phi | 16 | 22 377 17.1 2 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+
| TOTAL | 63 | 90 1263 14.0 5 |



Thanks for making me puke.

I think you'd have to try to be that bad.

Chiefs Pantalones
06-18-2005, 10:45 PM
We would've been better off keeping Morton or giving Az more money. Freddie is terrible.

Freddie is cheaper and went to UCLA so I guess it's all good for the good ole boy network. Hope it works out.

Ultra Peanut
06-18-2005, 10:50 PM
It's a classic matchup of big versus old.

Ultra Peanut
06-18-2005, 10:53 PM
That's the kind of comedy that allowed Ray Childress to excel in a non-comedy profession.

jAZ
06-18-2005, 10:54 PM
Given people's excitement when we originally signed Jonnie Morton and pessimism toward signing Kennison...

I'd say people's pessimism towards Freddie Mitchell is a good sign for our team!

alnorth
06-18-2005, 10:59 PM
Was Fred ex ever given a serious honest chance to excel? I've heard on the radio that in his recent past, his teams were either conservative or just simply didnt throw to him. They went on to suggest that in a pass-happy team like the Chiefs, he'll finally get a chance to show whether or not he has any skill at WR.

Rausch
06-18-2005, 11:00 PM
he did make some big catches in the NFC Championship game, IIRC.

And managed to be McNabb's most hated WR.

Considering that team is super-weak at WR, that's sad...

Pants
06-18-2005, 11:00 PM
Fred Ex. 1,000 yards.

You heard it here first.

stevieray
06-18-2005, 11:06 PM
And managed to be McNabb's most hated WR.

...

That's not saying much.

IIRC, it was his catches in crunch time that helped them win.

Ultra Peanut
06-18-2005, 11:08 PM
Given people's excitement when we originally signed Jonnie Morton and pessimism toward signing Kennison...

I'd say people's pessimism towards Freddie Mitchell is a good sign for our team!Well said!

You want a birdhouse? I'll give you a friggin' birdhouse!

beavis
06-18-2005, 11:09 PM
Fred Ex. 1,000 yards.

You heard it here first.
Crack kills.

KS Smitty
06-18-2005, 11:22 PM
Is the Chiefs offense so much different from the Eagles (minus the QB /WR squabbling) that Mitchell will actually make a difference as a Chief?

whoman69
06-18-2005, 11:24 PM
'02 was a year that McNabb only completed 200 passes anyway. Outside of that, he has 3rd WR numbers. TDs are low but Philly gets a lot of receiving touchdowns to tight ends and their backfield, seems like they look for them near the goalline.

Being a WR-poor team, I don't think it's a stretch to have a pretty good passing team's 3rd elevated to our 2nd. We can take a chance on him for a 1 year deal. Especially if he still has that 4.4 speed in him.
The numbers for McNabb in 2002 are useless since that season he was injured and missed 6 games. His backups that season played more than adequately.
I'm not sure you can count on anyone's workout numbers to hold water after several seasons of pounding in the NFL. IMO were better off if our current receivers are determined to be better than FredEx. He has shown little real ability. Let's not forget that he was putting up those mediocre numbers for most of his career as the Eagles #2 receiver.

Count Zarth
06-18-2005, 11:54 PM
Fred Ex. 1,000 yards.

You heard it here first.

You're retarded.

Pants
06-19-2005, 12:09 AM
You're retarded.

Actually, it appears that you are. ROFL

Count Zarth
06-19-2005, 12:11 AM
Actually, it appears that you are. ROFL

Keep going at this rate and you'll "become" retarded as well. :)

KS Smitty
06-19-2005, 12:14 AM
Is the Chiefs offense so much different from the Eagles (minus the QB /WR squabbling) that Mitchell will actually make a difference as a Chief?

Wellllll??????????????????

Ultra Peanut
06-19-2005, 12:16 AM
"If I'm Burton, I'm already at the go-karts at this point."
"And the way his day's going, he'd probably crash into a tire and explode."

KS Smitty
06-19-2005, 12:26 AM
"If I'm Burton, I'm already at the go-karts at this point."
"And the way his day's going, he'd probably crash into a tire and explode."

You're just a ray of sunshine. rochambeau <-This would have been just as effective. :shake: :deevee:

Ultra Peanut
06-19-2005, 12:29 AM
"I had no idea that Dave Revsine had an older Superstar brother."
"I wonder if he's going to swim against Larry Tirico."

trndobrd
06-19-2005, 12:45 AM
Was Fred ex ever given a serious honest chance to excel? I've heard on the radio that in his recent past, his teams were either conservative or just simply didnt throw to him. They went on to suggest that in a pass-happy team like the Chiefs, he'll finally get a chance to show whether or not he has any skill at WR.


Many teams will not throw to a receiver that is not "open", as they say. This may have something to do with the lack of passes in his direction.

the Talking Can
06-19-2005, 01:15 AM
Many teams will not throw to a receiver that is not "open", as they say. This may have something to do with the lack of passes in his direction.

ROFL

DaWolf
06-19-2005, 02:57 AM
Well on the bright side he's not a former Lion. With the way Perriman and morton both sagged when they came here from Detroit, Hakim may have done the same. :)

I look at it this way: The guy is a former first rounder so he has supposed talent in there. He's playing in a different system that may be a better fit for him. He's still young. He's been humbled and is now fighting for a roster spot. Everyone seems to indicate he is a hard nosed reciever who likes to get physical. All we need him to do is catch the ball when it is thrown to him and make some plays after the catch. Anything more than that will be a bonus. Kennison revived his career here, and if Mitchell can do the same, then terrific...

the Talking Can
06-19-2005, 05:53 AM
All we need him to do is catch the ball when it is thrown to him and make some plays after the catch.

Madden, is that you?

Ultra Peanut
06-19-2005, 08:38 AM
Madden, is that you?If uh, if uh, if uh, if the quarterback throws it and the receiver catches it in the end zone, and there aren't any flags and the receiver got both feet in, that's gonna be, that's gonna be, that's gonna be a touchdown.

DJay23
06-19-2005, 09:30 AM
I'll attempt to explain the higher numbers in the last 2 games of each season:

Eagles have home field/ playoff spot wrapped up. GOOD players sit and are rested, leaving the LESSER players on the field to make more catches than normal.

Count Zarth
06-19-2005, 09:34 AM
If uh, if uh, if uh, if the quarterback throws it and the receiver catches it in the end zone, and there aren't any flags and the receiver got both feet in, that's gonna be, that's gonna be, that's gonna be a touchdown.

If it's not a drop or an interception - it's a completion.

milkman
06-19-2005, 12:52 PM
Fred Ex. 1,000 yards.

You heard it here first.

Can I have some of what you're smoking?

RedThat
06-19-2005, 12:59 PM
Can I have some of what you're smoking?

I'd like some too. It must be some good sh*t.

milkman
06-19-2005, 01:00 PM
'02 was a year that McNabb only completed 200 passes anyway. Outside of that, he has 3rd WR numbers. TDs are low but Philly gets a lot of receiving touchdowns to tight ends and their backfield, seems like they look for them near the goalline.

Being a WR-poor team, I don't think it's a stretch to have a pretty good passing team's 3rd elevated to our 2nd. We can take a chance on him for a 1 year deal. Especially if he still has that 4.4 speed in him.

I'm sorry, did you say "pretty good passing team"?
Their "3rd elevated to our 2nd"?

This guy couldn't break into the #2 receiver spot against Todd Pinkston and James Thrash, and you think he's good enough to be our #2?

If this scrub wins the #2 receiver spot here, then Samie Parker, Mark Boerighter, Richard Smith, and any other receiver on the roster in camp need to give up football and find a postion at the nearest freakin' McDonalds, Burger King, or other fast food joint, cause they apparently suck even worse than anyone here could have possibly imagined.

Oh, and those numbers aren't 3rd WR numbers, except on a team that has crappy #3 receivers.

Valiant
06-19-2005, 02:27 PM
I would rather have Gardner if he is released or korin robinson... There should be no reason why he did not have better numbers with mcnabb unless he was unreliable

Otter
06-19-2005, 02:58 PM
Yeah, it's not good when the Chiefs announce a signing of a 5 year vet on thier webpage and have to compose half the article up of his college accomplishments to try and sell the deal to the fans.

DTLB58
06-19-2005, 04:41 PM
Yeah, it's not good when the Chiefs announce a signing of a 5 year vet on thier webpage and have to compose half the article up of his college accomplishments to try and sell the deal to the fans.

EXACTLY!

DaWolf
06-20-2005, 08:15 AM
Madden, is that you?
Point being, our recievers have dropped so many passes the last few years that him catching the ball consistently would be an improvement. Otherwise, yeah, it was a pretty duh statement now that I read it...

Goapics1
06-20-2005, 08:31 AM
Receiving |

| TOTAL | 63 | 90 1263 14.0 5 |

Those are decent numbers..............................if they were for 1 season. :clap:

htismaqe
06-20-2005, 08:43 AM
I would rather have Gardner if he is released or korin robinson... There should be no reason why he did not have better numbers with mcnabb unless he was unreliable

You'd rather have a guy that's facing a 1-year suspension and has a rap sheet a mile long? Doesn't seem too bright to me.

Warrior5
06-20-2005, 08:47 AM
Hope he gets cut at TC.

I don't want him in R&G.

Ultra Peanut
06-20-2005, 08:54 AM
DON'T F*CKING DOUBT THE POWER OF SUPERSTAR FREDDIE MITCHELL!

keg in kc
06-20-2005, 08:58 AM
All I can hope is that he's not the second coming of Vonnie "career underachiever" Holliday.

Well, whatever the case, he's a Chief now, and the slate's wiped clean. All the talk about who else we should or could have doesn't change the fact that he's the one here. Now the only numbers that matter will be the stats he posts for us in 2005, if any.

Hoover
06-20-2005, 09:09 AM
Wasn't it all the double teams on Fedex that allowed TO to get open all the effin time :D

I think Fedex is just trying to beat out a guy for a roster spot at best. i don't think we will see him starting.