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Rain Man
06-21-2005, 07:27 PM
Wow.

I repeat. Wow. If I didn't know better, I'd think that this team won a bunch of championships or something.

Apologies to a lot of strong players who didn't make the cut on this forthcoming poll.

chop
06-21-2005, 07:30 PM
Johnnie Morton, Joe Montana, Jerry Rice

el borracho
06-21-2005, 07:32 PM
Montana, Rice and Young with apologies to Mr. Lott for edging him off the list.

Rain Man
06-21-2005, 07:33 PM
Leo Nomellini was an impressive dude. Here's his bio from the Hall of Fame.


To many of his opponents, it must have seemed that Leo Nomellini was around an awfully long time. He was, too, for he didn't miss a game for the San Francisco 49ers from the day they first played in the NFL in 1950 until after the 1963 campaign, 14 long years later.

Leo played in 174 straight regular-season games and counting all appearances, including 10 Pro Bowl games, he played in 266 pro contests. Nomellini was an All-America tackle for two years at Minnesota and the number one draft choice of the 49ers in 1950.

The choice of Nomellini proved to be a superb one. At 6-3 and 260, "The Lion” had everything needed to be an all-time pro great – size, speed, agility, aggressiveness, dedication to the game, superb conditioning and the willingness to go the full 60 minutes of any game.

Nomellini was one of the few players ever to win All-NFL recognition both on offense and defense. Leo was named all-league at offensive tackle in 1951 and 1952, and then received All-NFL honors for his defensive line play in 1953, 1954, 1957, and 1959.

The status as an all-time pro grid great is a far cry from the impoverished days Leo knew as a youth. Born in Lucca, Italy, in 1924, Nomellini came to Chicago as an infant. Because he had to work to help support his family, Leo had to pass up high school football. So the first game he ever saw was one he played in, as a member of the Cherry Point, N.C., Marines team.

Later, at Minnesota, he was a starter in the first college game he ever saw. Freshmen were eligible then and it was the start of a brilliant four-year college career. Like a fine old wine, Leo improved with age during his long term with the 49ers. When he finally retired at 39 after 14 years of battering the enemy, Nomellini had been tagged "indestructible." It was a tag he had truly earned and appreciated.

Rain Man
06-21-2005, 07:36 PM
Montana, Rice and Young with apologies to Mr. Lott for edging him off the list.

My thinking exactly. It's unfathomable to not vote for Mr. Lott, but it's even more unfathomable to not vote for the other three.

UteChief
06-21-2005, 07:39 PM
Montana, Rice, and Young. I didn't like football in time to know who Ronnie Lott is.

Mr. Kotter
06-21-2005, 07:41 PM
WR, Johnny Morton

Deberg_1990
06-21-2005, 07:44 PM
No Johnny Morton??

Rain Man
06-21-2005, 07:45 PM
I left Morton off of the list because I felt that he didn't have as much playing time with San Francisco as did other players like Rice and Montana. It was a judgment call, and I'll take responsibility for it.

Zebedee DuBois
06-21-2005, 07:48 PM
Tough choice.

Montana, Rice, Lott.

BoroChief
06-21-2005, 07:55 PM
Definitely Montana, Rice, and Lott. Young was a strong contender but I had to show some love to the D side of the ball.

Inspector
06-21-2005, 08:03 PM
Zeke, the old guy who made a substantial claim in the northern part of the sate.

Jeremiah, who gave up the gold search and went into a used mule dealership. Was the richest of the three when he died.

Morticiah. While never finding the big claim, he made his riches by shooting other miners and stealing their loot.

They may not have been the greatest, but these are the only ones that I know of in the San Fransico area.

Rain Man
06-21-2005, 08:48 PM
With my trained eye, I'm starting to see a pattern here.

Otter
06-21-2005, 08:51 PM
Wow, that poll is almost as unanimous as getting Jimmy Carter out of office.

Joe Montana Baby! Nobody does it better.

tk13
06-21-2005, 08:53 PM
Montana, Bono, Grbac.

KChiefs1
06-21-2005, 10:20 PM
This one is a no-brainer....

Montana
Rice
Lott

Bwana
06-22-2005, 12:06 AM
Montana, Rice, Lott.

KCChiefsMan
06-22-2005, 12:43 AM
Montana, Rice and Young with Lott being a close 4th

Jenson71
06-22-2005, 12:54 AM
Easy choice. Hazeltine, Barton, and Brodie.

mcan
06-22-2005, 01:26 AM
Uhhh,

Ronnie Lott over STEVE YOUNG?!

Steve Young is the highest rated passer in NFL history!

wildcat09
06-22-2005, 07:32 AM
Tough choice.

Montana, Rice, Lott.

my thoughts exactly. Lott over young because the dude freekin cut a finger off on purpose!

MOhillbilly
06-22-2005, 08:07 AM
my thoughts exactly. Lott over young because the dude freekin cut a finger off on purpose!

he knocked okoye out of the NFL.dud was never the same.......

chagrin
06-22-2005, 08:13 AM
Rain Man should have given us 6 choices for this franchise...there are many old timers that deserve the nod for best in franchise history, but how can I go against Joe, Rice and Lott?

Steve Young had alot of heart and had great stats (which I am a big fan of) BUT, in my opinion, and this is probably going to be a long debate but this is all I will say about it, he took his talent and added it to a well oiled machine at it's peak (or at least not very far from it) and it STILL took him several years, with a bought defense including Ricky Jackson, Richard Dent, Toi Cook and Deion Sanders to get over the hump and win a title, he never got close again

Ebolapox
06-22-2005, 11:25 AM
part of me wanted to vote for y.a. tittle--a top 15 alltime qb

-EB-

Hydrae
06-22-2005, 01:14 PM
part of me wanted to vote for y.a. tittle--a top 15 alltime qb

-EB-


Tittle is the one who loses out in this poll. One of the biggest names of all time in the league but when you have Montana, Rice, Lott (my 3 picks) and Young, there is no love left for a great old timer.

Rain Man
06-22-2005, 01:17 PM
Jimmy Johnson is another old-timer who deserves some votes, but won't get them with this level of competition. He was a top-notch CB, and I think he had close to 50 interceptions in his career.

And no, he's not that Jimmy Johnson.

whoman69
06-22-2005, 03:41 PM
Rice, Montana and Lott are arguably the best ever to play their positions. I think that qualifies.

whoman69
06-22-2005, 03:48 PM
Uhhh,

Ronnie Lott over STEVE YOUNG?!

Steve Young is the highest rated passer in NFL history!
Young has one championship on a veritable all-star team. Lott is no doubt at the top of his position. The man had a pinkey amputated so his season could continue instead of getting surgery on it.

chagrin
06-22-2005, 04:23 PM
Rain Man should be ashamed for not listing Steve Spurrier as one of the best QB's ever to play the game of football for the 69ers

Rain Man
06-22-2005, 05:02 PM
All four of those guys are tops - Montana, Rice, Lott, and Young. I had to include Young over Lott because his stats are just amazing. The guy did not throw interceptions, and had a higher career completion percentage with the 49ers than did Montana.



Passing

No Name ATT COMP PCT. YDS TDS INT LONG
1. Montana, Joe (1979-92) 4,600 2,929 63.7 35,124 244 123 96t
2. Brodie, John (1957-73) 4,491 2,469 55.0 31,548 214 224 83t
3. Young, Steve (1987-99) 3,648 2,400 65.7 29,906 221 86 97t
4. Tittle, Y.A. (1951-60) 2,194 1,226 55.9 16,016 108 134 78t
5. Garcia, Jeff (1999-curr.) 1,968 1,224 62.2 13,704 95 43 69t
6. DeBerg, Steve (1977-80) 1,201 670 55.8 7,220 37 60 93
8. Spurrier, Steve (1967-75) 840 441 52.5 5,250 33 48 81t
9. Albert, Frank (1950-52) 601 316 52.6 3,847 27 43 60
10. Plunkett, Jim (1976-77) 491 254 51.7 3,285 22 30 85



Now add to that the fact that he's also the 8th-leading rusher in San Francisco history, and arguably the most dangerous rushing QB in the history of the game, unless you call Michael Vick a QB.


Rushing

No Name ATT YDS AVG TD LONG
1. Perry, Joe(1950-60, 63) 1,475 7,344 4.9 50 78t
2. Craig, Roger (1983-90) 1,686 7,064 4.2 50 71
3. Willard, Ken (1965-73) 1,582 5,930 3.7 45 69t
4. Hearst, Garrison (1998-99, 2001-curr.) 1,011 4,767 4.7 23 96t
5. Smith, J.D. (1956-64) 1,007 4,370 4.3 37 80t
6. McElhenny, Hugh (1952-60) 877 4,288 4.9 35 89t
8. Young, Steve (1987-99) 609 3,577 5.8 34 49t
7. Tyler, Wendell (1983-86) 624 3,112 4.9 16 40
9. Williams, Delvin (1974-77) 669 2,966 4.4 20 80t
10. Jackson, Wilbur (1974-79) 745 2,955 3.9 10 80



I'm not saying that he was better than Montana, but he's as close to Montana as one can get.

HC_Chief
06-22-2005, 05:05 PM
This one is a no-brainer IMO:
Rice, Montana, Lott

BIG_DADDY
06-22-2005, 05:10 PM
This one is a no-brainer IMO:
Rice, Montana, Lott


Pretty much.

Hey where's Romanowski in that list?

Rausch
06-22-2005, 05:14 PM
This one is a no-brainer IMO:
Rice, Montana, Lott

Exactly.

I wouldn't put Young above Taylor or Craig either...

Rain Man
06-22-2005, 05:50 PM
Pretty much.

Hey where's Romanowski in that list?

We had to remove him after he sucker-punched Bob St. Clair.

BIG_DADDY
06-22-2005, 06:12 PM
We had to remove him after he sucker-punched Bob St. Clair.
ROFL

Boardin Bronco
06-22-2005, 06:26 PM
I think this poll does a disservice to the many old-time HOF players on this list. St. Clair, Wilcox, Nomellini, the Million Dollar Backfield all deserve high praise but they get no respect because they don't play high profile positions or they played before the rise in popularity of the NFL.

I get so ticked off when people mention the 49ers tradition of QBs and they forget to say John Brodie's name. Or Y.A. Tittle's. Somehow, Jeff Garcia still gets mentioned.