View Full Version : Rumy clears up the "Last Throes" statement on Meet the Press

Ugly Duck
06-26-2005, 11:28 AM
Finally! Rumy explains the "Last Throes of the Insurgency" idea on Meet the Press today. This oughta clear it up for ya....

RUSSERT: For the sake of clarity for the American people, what about this insurgency? Is it in its last throes or is it alive and well and vibrant and strong as it was six months ago?

SEC'Y RUMSFELD: Well, there are various ways to measure it. If you measure the number of incidents, it's gone up during the election period and now it's back down. If you look at lethality of those instances, it's up. Now, what does that mean? Does it mean that the insurgency's stronger? Is it in its last throes? The last throes could be violence, as you well know from a dictionary standpoint....


In support of the administrations "Last Throes" idea, some data from the Boston Globe that will clear it up even more....

"So far this year, nearly 1,000 members of Iraq's police and security forces have been killed in attacks, almost as many as the total for the previous year and half, according to Pentagon figures.

US military officials have documented more disturbing trends.

The number of attacks involving suicide bombers, for example, rose from 25 percent in February to more than 50 percent in April, according to estimates provided by Pentagon officials who asked not to be named. The first two weeks of May saw 21 suicide attacks in Baghdad alone; there were just 25 in all of 2004. The data have also been compiled by the Center for Strategic and International Studies, which summarizes the same military field reports.

Meanwhile, a recent internal poll conducted for the US-led coalition found that nearly 45 percent of the population supported the insurgent attacks, making accurate intelligence difficult to obtain. Only 15 percent of those polled said they strongly supported the US-led coalition.


Mr. Laz
06-26-2005, 11:35 AM
truth is that nobody really knows whether it's ending or just regrouping.

if other countries in the region are any example then its going to be a neverending terroristic situation.

the "last throes" comment was stupid

06-26-2005, 11:35 AM
This "insurgency" will never fully go away more than likely. It will take generations to change a whole culture and way of life. I dont think the American people have the stomach or patience to wait that long. Feeding this culture of violence in the Middle East is widespread poverty and miseducation. Of course that will not change overnight.