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Rain Man
07-05-2005, 10:52 PM
Second verse, same as the first. Except different.

Rain Man
07-05-2005, 11:00 PM
In order, I went with Buchanan, Cherry, E. Budde, Carter, and Burford.

I will stump for Burford a bit, and note that he was a good receiver for the Chiefs. In a time where 50 catches was a great season, here are his stats:



| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1960 dtx | 14 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 46 789 17.2 5 |
| 1961 dtx | 14 | 1 -13 -13.0 0 | 51 850 16.7 5 |
| 1962 dtx | 11 | 1 13 13.0 0 | 45 645 14.3 12 |
| 1963 kan | 14 | 1 10 10.0 0 | 68 824 12.1 9 |
| 1964 kan | 12 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 51 675 13.2 7 |
| 1965 kan | 11 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 47 575 12.2 6 |
| 1966 kan | 14 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 58 758 13.1 8 |
| 1967 kan | 13 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 25 389 15.6 3 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 103 | 3 10 3.3 0 | 391 5505 14.1 55 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

Rain Man
07-05-2005, 11:01 PM
Whoever voted for Bush is going to get a beating.

cdcox
07-05-2005, 11:51 PM
In order, I went with Buchanan, Cherry, E. Budde, Carter, and Burford.




I came up with an indetical list.

Buchanan, Cherry and Budde were automatic qualifiers.

On my first run through, I also had Arron Brown, Burruss, Carter, Buford and Carlos Carson.

Brown sacked Joe Kapp to seal the victory in SB IV other than that, I couldn't tell you much about him. Digging on the web, I found out he didn't like KC and was traded at his request to the GB Packers. Curtains for Mr. Brown.

Burruss was good, but didn't match up to Cherry or Carter. Or the already ousted Barbaro for that matter.

Dale Carter wasted more talent than 95% of the Chiefs ever had. Still he gets a pass on this round. He was great for about 5 years, but could have easily been a Hall of Famer had he kept his nose clean and out of Denver.

Then it came down to Chris Buford or Carlos Carson. I never saw Buford play. But he had significantly more TD than Carson and nearly as many yards over fewer years and under rules that didi not favor the passing game. So I went with Buford.

Much deeper group than round 1.

Rain Man
07-06-2005, 12:05 AM
I felt bad about not including Burruss. I liked him and he was a solid player, but he was never spectacular.

Carson always frustrated me. He was productive, but it seemed like he had the dropsies a lot.

I didn't know much about Brown and so he wasn't on my list. I actually liked Larry Brunson when he played, but eliminated him pretty quickly due to his short tenure with the Chiefs.

Logical
07-06-2005, 12:15 AM
Well this one was certainly easy.

Aaron Brown
Buck Buchanan
Ed Budde
Lloyd Burruss
Deron Cherry

Rudy lost the toss
07-06-2005, 12:24 AM
I had to vote Buchanan, Budde and Cherry based on reputations, and then I voted for Dale Carter and one of my favorite chiefs growing up.... Steve Bono

Digital Takawira
07-06-2005, 12:34 AM
bono almost merits a vote for the 76-yard run against the cardinals.

almost.

Rudy lost the toss
07-06-2005, 12:41 AM
bono almost merits a vote for the 76-yard run against the cardinals.

almost.
That was the best play ever

old_geezer
07-06-2005, 05:25 AM
Buchannan
Cherry
Ed Budde
Carter

I couldn't find anyone to waste my 5th vote on - this is supposed to be a poll of greatest Chiefs - not people you liked or were average. Not sure Carter even belongs on my short list (much potential, but so much wasted). :(

HemiEd
07-06-2005, 06:36 AM
Buck Buchanon, Ed Budde, Lloyd Burress, Dale Carter and Deron Cherry

Skip Towne
07-06-2005, 08:21 AM
bono almost merits a vote for the 76-yard run against the cardinals.

almost.
With Joe Valerio 30 yds. downfield motioning for Bono to hurry up. They timed that play with a calendar.

Rain Man
07-06-2005, 10:05 AM
That was the best play ever


Another candidate for best play ever was Keith Cash nailing that picture of Buddy Ryan in the playoffs. He became a folk hero to me on that play.

chiefs4me
07-06-2005, 10:14 AM
Made my picks, this poll was easier then the first one...and this is a lot of fun...:p

Chiefnj
07-06-2005, 10:23 AM
Another candidate for best play ever was Keith Cash nailing that picture of Buddy Ryan in the playoffs. He became a folk hero to me on that play.

I voted for Cash solely because of those playoff games. He also had the blocked punt against Pitt late in the game. The guy came up huge in the postseason.

ChiTown
07-06-2005, 10:24 AM
The first 4 were easy:

Burruss
Budde
Buchanan
Cherry

It was a toss-up btw Carter and Carson. I went with the more likeable character in Carlos Carson.

shakesthecat
07-06-2005, 10:30 AM
Buchanan
Burford
Budde
Cherry
Carson

HemiEd
07-06-2005, 10:32 AM
That was the best play ever

I think the Curly Culp 99 yard run for winning TD with no time left was my favorite.

whoman69
07-06-2005, 11:47 AM
I had to vote for Carson because if you think about how weak we have been at WR over the years, he's in the top 3 of the franchise all-time.

milkman
07-06-2005, 08:07 PM
Well this one was certainly easy.

Aaron Brown
Buck Buchanan
Ed Budde
Lloyd Burruss
Deron Cherry

Once again, we are on the same page.

milkman
07-06-2005, 09:39 PM
I decided to pull this up, and post Bucks HOF bio.


JUNIOUS (BUCK) BUCHANAN

Class of 1990
Defensive Tackle >>> 6-7, 270
(Grambling)

1963-1975 Kansas City Chiefs

Junious Buchanan. . .NAIA All-America at Grambling. . .First player selected in 1963 AFL Draft. . .Possessed speed, size, determination, durability. . .Missed only one game in 13 years. . .Excelled at intimidating passer, batted down 16 passes, 1967. . .Four-time All-AFL, All-AFC in 1970, 1971. . .Led Chiefs defensive efforts in Super Bowl I, IV. . .Played in six AFL All-Star games, two AFC-NFC Pro Bowls. . . Born September 10, 1940, in Gainesville, Alabama. . .Died July 16, 1992, at age of 51.








Buck Buchanan was the first player taken in the 1963 American Football League Draft. Selected by the Kansas City Chiefs, Buck quickly proved the rave notices that preceded him were not unfounded. Eddie Robinson, his coach at Grambling, where he had been an NAIA All-America in 1962, called him "the finest lineman I have seen."

Others who had watched Buchanan in action were equally enthusiastic. Born September 10, 1940, in Gainesville, Alabama, Buchanan had the physical size 6-7 and 270 pounds plus the athletic instincts to be exceptionally successful at his job of foiling opposition offenses. He was particularly effective at intimidating the passer and, in one season alone in 1967, he batted down 16 opposition passes at or behind the line of scrimmage. He was clocked at 4.9 in the 40 and 10.2 in the 100 at Grambling and, with that speed; he could range from sideline to sideline to make tackles.

In spite of the weekly pounding he took on the scrimmage line, Buchanan was extremely durable. He played in 182 career games that included a string of 166 straight. After dabbling briefly at defensive end as a rookie, Buchanan settled down to his permanent job as the Chiefs' defensive right tackle. He was named to his first AFL All-Star game after his second season in 1964. It was the first of an eight-season period during which he played in either the AFL All-Star game or the AFC-NFC Pro Bowl. He was a virtually unanimous All-AFL choice from 1966 through 1969 and then won All-AFC honors in 1970 and 1971. He was a defensive leader for the Chiefs in their losing effort in Super Bowl I and then was outstanding in Kansas City's 23-7 upset of Minnesota in Super Bowl IV that saw the Buchanan-led defense completely stifle the vaunted Vikings attack.




Batted down 16 passes in 1967.
That's almost unheard of today.

buddha
07-07-2005, 10:29 PM
Who were the numbnuts who voted for Todd Blackledge as an all-time great KC Chief?

The top vote getters were all very deserving!

digi2fish
07-07-2005, 10:37 PM
I miss Carter

Rausch
07-07-2005, 10:41 PM
Cherry and Buchanan...