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katman1
07-11-2005, 12:33 PM
When Chiefís football was just a game

At 70 I might be the oldest person on this site. Just as a reference point, Iím a third generation Kansas Citian, a former Red Coater, and someone who attended the first and fourth Super Bowl.

My hopes have been dashed so many times since that auspicious day in New Orleans that I can no longer get up for the game. The plus side of it is that I no longer have that feeling of blue Monday after the guys in red blew the game the day before. Itís kind of like a slot machine that hasnít paid off in 35 years.

I donít have many answers for todayís Chiefís fans. Just keep in mind that what used to be a game is today a business. Itís no longer a question of whether the Chiefs win or lose but whether they make money.

Todayís pro football fans might be tomorrowís NASCAR fans.

Katman

Count Alex's Losses
07-11-2005, 12:36 PM
At 70 I might be the oldest person on this site.


Yeah, Skip's pretty happy when he see this. ROFL


Itís no longer a question of whether the Chiefs win or lose but whether they make money.

How do you explain this offseason?

Rain Man
07-11-2005, 12:39 PM
You think you're depressed? At least you got to see a Super Bowl.

Mr. Laz
07-11-2005, 12:39 PM
isn't skip like 80?

ChiTown
07-11-2005, 12:40 PM
You think you're depressed? At least you got to see a Super Bowl.


ROFL ROFL ROFL

Mr. Laz
07-11-2005, 12:40 PM
How do you explain this offseason?

they won't lose money this season

KCTitus
07-11-2005, 12:40 PM
Sure, it's a business...the problems begin when people start to make the game/business more than what it really is--entertainment.

Count Alex's Losses
07-11-2005, 12:46 PM
they won't lose money this season

If they only cared about money, they wouldn't have gone to such efforts to improve the team.

munkey
07-11-2005, 12:58 PM
Curious thread....

Count Alex's Losses
07-11-2005, 12:59 PM
Do you use WebTV?

Calcountry
07-11-2005, 01:18 PM
Sure, it's a business...the problems begin when people start to make the game/business more than what it really is--entertainment.Funny, that is how I veiw my time on this board as well. Some think it should be more than that .

Phobia
07-11-2005, 01:31 PM
FWIW, katman1 is a client of mine - kinda. His g/f is my client, but we've had a lot of interaction the past couple weeks. I invited him to the board because I knew he'd have an interesting perspective - and you can see that he does.

Way to come in with your guns blazing, katman. I think there are a lot of us who feel somewhat the same way you do, though I have no problem getting "up" for the gameday. I do wish it were more about the pure game, but that time has passed, unfortunately.

Welcome to the board. Hopefully you'll enjoy your stay.

Crush
07-11-2005, 01:35 PM
isn't skip like 80?


"They" say he has walked the Earth since the beginning of time...

foxman
07-11-2005, 01:42 PM
At 70 I can no longer get up for the game.

Katman

Thanks for sharing....is there a football equivalent of Ceallis available?

Mr. Laz
07-11-2005, 01:49 PM
If they only cared about money, they wouldn't have gone to such efforts to improve the team.
to keep making money they must keep the fan base excitement to a certain level or it could fall apart.


after a good year, they do very little because the fan base is already up


after a bad year, they need do stuff to rejuvenate the fan base. The lower the attitude of the fan base ... the "flashier" the off season move.


been like that for as long as i can remember



that's why we stand pat after virtually every really good season ... record wise. They judge the team from a monetary potential more than a winning potential.

HemiEd
07-11-2005, 01:52 PM
Thanks for sharing....is there a football equivalent of Ceallis available?

I think that might be winning some play-off games. It would pump a lot of enthusiasm back into the fans IMO. Like Katman, 35 years of coming up short gets you to lower your goals in order to keep from being so dissapointed.

Donger
07-11-2005, 01:54 PM
His g/f is my client

70 years old, and he has a girlfriend?

HemiEd
07-11-2005, 01:56 PM
to keep making money they must keep the fan base excitement to a certain level or it could fall apart.


after a good year, they do very little because the fan base is already up


after a bad year, they need do stuff to rejuvenate the fan base. The lower the attitude of the fan base ... the "flashier" the off season move.


been like that for as long as i can remember



that's why we stand pat after virtually every really good season ... record wise. They judge the team from a monetary potential more than a winning potential.

I agree, all teams pretty much do it. However, after the 03 season, the Chiefs did spent a lot of money on their own players.
Here in Chicago, the OC Shea was made the scapegoat for the fans this year. I still think that is why they always draft a Running Back or QB early as well. Gives the fans something to be excited about.

RedThat
07-11-2005, 01:57 PM
to keep making money they must keep the fan base excitement to a certain level or it could fall apart.


after a good year, they do very little because the fan base is already up


after a bad year, they need do stuff to rejuvenate the fan base. The lower the attitude of the fan base ... the "flashier" the off season move.


been like that for as long as i can remember



that's why we stand pat after virtually every really good season ... record wise. They judge the team from a monetary potential more than a winning potential.

Exactly. That does suck to see them like that.

HemiEd
07-11-2005, 01:59 PM
70 years old, and he has a girlfriend?

70 is not so old.

Jacob, age 92, and Rebecca, age 89, living in Florida, are all excited
about their decision to get married. They go for a stroll to discuss the
wedding, and on the way they pas! s a drugstore. Jacob suggests they go in.

Jacob addresses the man behind the counter: "Are you the owner?"

The pharmacist answers, "Yes."

Jacob: "We're about to get married. Do you sell heart medication?"

Pharmacist: "Of course we do."

Jacob: "How about medicine for circulation?"

Pharmacist: "All kinds."

Jacob: "Medicine ! for rheumatism and scoliosis?"

Pharmacist: "Definitely."

Jacob: "How about Viagra?"

Pharmacist: "Of course."

Jacob: "Medicine for memory problems, arthritis, jaundice?"

Pharmacist: "Yes, a large variety. The works."

Jacob: "What about vitamins, sleeping pills, Geritol, antidotes
for Parkinson's disease?"

Pharmacist: "Absolutely."

Jacob: "You sell wheelchairs and walkers?"

Pharmacist: "All speeds and sizes."

Jacob: "We'd like to use this store as our Bridal Registry."

Buster's Dad
07-11-2005, 02:00 PM
70 years old, and he has a girlfriend?
So what, I am 64 and the wife and get with it quite often.
Katman 1, super bowl one was a real bitch, super bowl 4 was the game that I will remember for ever. then both the players and owners played for the game now it's all money and it is truly sad.

Mr. Laz
07-11-2005, 02:02 PM
So what, I am 64 and the wife and get with it quite often

TMI :shake:

KChiefs1
07-11-2005, 02:16 PM
The Super Bowl actually use to be more than just a game too....I loved it when the AFL shoved it up the NFL's azz!

whoman69
07-11-2005, 02:20 PM
I'm 42 and was just short of 7 when we went to the SB the last time. I did not start watching until the next year and will remember the Christmas Day game, but I won't remember SB IV. Then again, I can feel sorry for those who didn't get to see Ali in his prime, Swann making that great catch against the Cowboys, or Hank Aaron or OJ getting over 2000 yards.

excessive
07-11-2005, 02:29 PM
Itís no longer a question of whether the Chiefs win or lose but whether they make money.



Katman


The value of the francise is over 400 hundred million. I think Lamar got a good return on his money.

I don't think you can question the man's willingness to spend what's necessary to win. What you have to question is his judgment in hiring the GM to do it. How long did he let Steadman hang around? How long has he given Peterson?

Sure, I think his patience, all our patiences will be rewarded this season. Otherwise, how the heck can I call myself a Chiefs' fan. How can a hold my head up around my son and teach him what it means to love sports and be fanatic?

If this offseason, this offense, this alignment of stars can't get your woody up and running, I say it's time for the IV drip. No disrespect intended.

deadbabyseal
07-11-2005, 02:40 PM
70 years old, and he has a girlfriend?
Just don't tell his wife.

Calcountry
07-11-2005, 02:54 PM
I'm 42 and was just short of 7 when we went to the SB the last time. I did not start watching until the next year and will remember the Christmas Day game, but I won't remember SB IV. Then again, I can feel sorry for those who didn't get to see Ali in his prime, Swann making that great catch against the Cowboys, or Hank Aaron or OJ getting over 2000 yards.I saw OJ get his.