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Mr. Laz
07-16-2005, 12:05 PM
think we can sign this guy for a vet minimum type deal?


he's still out there and familiar with a west coast type offense


great athlete/good receiver ... if he could ever just stay healthy



???

Mr. Kotter
07-16-2005, 12:07 PM
He's someone I've argued we should be pursuing....unrealized potential, in new circumstances, for the right price? What the heck? We signed FredEx--in my view, less of a player....why not Streets?

jspchief
07-16-2005, 12:09 PM
He sucks.

RedThat
07-16-2005, 12:10 PM
think we can sign this guy for a vet minimum type deal?


he's still out there and familiar with a west coast type offense


great athlete/good receiver ... if he could ever just stay healthy



???

Not bad. Not a bad receiver. Never thought he was available, totally forgot about him. He's better than Freddie Mitchell. Veteran minimum?
Think he'll come that cheap?

Mr. Kotter
07-16-2005, 12:12 PM
He sucks.

He's better at least half of the WRs currently on our roster...

jspchief
07-16-2005, 12:13 PM
He's better than Freddie Mitchell.
That's debateable IMO. I would like to have a guy his size though.

RedThat
07-16-2005, 12:13 PM
He sucks.

At least he's better than Freddie Mitchell, and has 10x less the mouth.

RedThat
07-16-2005, 12:16 PM
That's debateable IMO. I would like to have a guy his size though.

Debateable? He's been far more productive through his career than Mitchell has.

RedThat
07-16-2005, 12:18 PM
Tai Streets 6'3" 207lbs

Herzig
07-16-2005, 12:20 PM
Offense - Career
Year G GS Rush RuYd RuAvg RuTD Rec RecYd RecAvg RecTD Fumb
2000 2 0 0 0 0.0 0 2 25 12.5 0 1
2001 15 1 1 0 0.0 0 19 287 15.1 0 1
2002 16 13 0 0 0.0 0 72 756 10.5 5 1
2003 16 16 0 0 0.0 0 47 595 12.7 7 0
2004 13 12 0 0 0.0 0 28 260 9.3 1 0

Mr. Kotter
07-16-2005, 12:22 PM
Offense - Career
Year G GS Rush RuYd RuAvg RuTD Rec RecYd RecAvg RecTD Fumb
2000 2 0 0 0 0.0 0 2 25 12.5 0 1
2001 15 1 1 0 0.0 0 19 287 15.1 0 1
2002 16 13 0 0 0.0 0 72 756 10.5 5 1
2003 16 16 0 0 0.0 0 47 595 12.7 7 0
2004 13 12 0 0 0.0 0 28 260 9.3 1 0


2002, 2003 show he's capable....if he's matured at all (work ethic, attitude), in our system he could do well IMO.

RedThat
07-16-2005, 12:24 PM
2002, 2003 show he's capable....if he's matured at all (work ethic, attitude), in our system he could do well IMO.

I don't think he was ever a starter the last couple of years in Detroit. Plus he was hurt. When he was healthy and starting, he was pretty productive.

jspchief
07-16-2005, 12:28 PM
Debateable? He's been far more productive through his career than Mitchell has. "far more productive"? Hardly. All he's done is benefit from having Terrell Owens consuming defenses' attention.

Besides, being better than Freddie Mitchell doesn't neccessarily equal not sucking.

RedThat
07-16-2005, 12:40 PM
"far more productive"? Hardly. All he's done is benefit from having Terrell Owens consuming defenses' attention.

Besides, being better than Freddie Mitchell doesn't neccessarily equal not sucking.

I agree that having Owens next to him helped his play. Mitchell had Owens next to him as well. Even though Owens consumed defenses attention, I still think Streets did that also. On the other hand, Mitchell didn't.

Count Alex's Losses
07-16-2005, 12:46 PM
Tai Streets fits a west coast offense, not ours.

jspchief
07-16-2005, 12:47 PM
I agree that having Owens next to him helped his play. Mitchell had Owens next to him as well. Even though Owens consumed defenses attention, I still think Streets did that also. On the other hand, Mitchell didn't.You would have more of a point if Mitchell and Streets had played the same position opposite Owens. But seeing as Mitchell has been in the slot his entire career, and Streets has been a #2 for most of his, it's hard to compare them.

There's a reason that he's still jobless in July

Mr. Kotter
07-16-2005, 01:13 PM
Tai Streets fits a west coast offense, not ours.

.....our offense is often identified as an Air Coryell-type spread offense; it's not all that different from a bastardized West coast offense...

Count Alex's Losses
07-16-2005, 01:33 PM
.....our offense is often identified as an Air Coryell-type spread offense; it's not all that different from a bastardized West coast offense...

Tai Streets is bigger and not so quick. That doesn't fit our offense.

Flustrated
07-16-2005, 04:41 PM
No more recievers........
WE GOT BOERIGTER

http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/marc_boerigter/#bNews

Face it: the guy's a stud

'NUF SAID Superman

Logical
07-16-2005, 05:02 PM
think we can sign this guy for a vet minimum type deal?


he's still out there and familiar with a west coast type offense


great athlete/good receiver ... if he could ever just stay healthy



???I think he can be signed for vet min, but what does his experience with a West Coast offense have to do with anything. We don't run a West Coast offense at least not the type SF became famous for running.

milkman
07-16-2005, 05:08 PM
You would have more of a point if Mitchell and Streets had played the same position opposite Owens. But seeing as Mitchell has been in the slot his entire career, and Streets has been a #2 for most of his, it's hard to compare them.

There's a reason that he's still jobless in July

And there's a reason that Mitchell has been in the slot his entire career, even though he only had to beat out Todd Pinkston and James Thrash until last season.

And even with that crap on the filed, he still was relatively unproductive.

CrapEx will not make it out of training camp.

That's my prediction.

Logical
07-16-2005, 05:10 PM
This thread reminds me of how we longed for a stud RB before we finally got Priest. Hopefully our Priest equivalent at WR will arrive soon.

Mr. Laz
07-16-2005, 05:43 PM
I think he can be signed for vet min, but what does his experience with a West Coast offense have to do with anything. We don't run a West Coast offense at least not the type SF became famous for running.
our offense is a west coast based offense ... Streets should be familiar with the terminology and it being a timing base offense.


the two things that are different from other offenses

Mr. Laz
07-16-2005, 05:45 PM
This thread reminds me of how we longed for a stud RB before we finally got Priest. Hopefully our Priest equivalent at WR will arrive soon.

true ... we want for what we don't have, be it RB,WR,CB etc

Ralphy Boy
07-16-2005, 05:50 PM
You would have more of a point if Mitchell and Streets had played the same position opposite Owens. But seeing as Mitchell has been in the slot his entire career, and Streets has been a #2 for most of his, it's hard to compare them.

There's a reason that he's still jobless in July

Given that Philly runs a WCO and have TO currently throwing a fit, not wanting to honor his contract and with Streets still being out there, chances are that this guy is done in football sooner rather than later.

Logical
07-16-2005, 05:56 PM
our offense is a west coast based offense ... Streets should be familiar with the terminology and it being a timing base offense.


the two things that are different from other offensesI am going to have to disagree. Our offense is similar to the Air Coryell and the Rams offense. What both of those have in common is quick, nimble WRs, a Running Back who plays well as a receiver, and two of the three featured the TE as a primary weapon. In a true WC offense the TE is merely another blocker for the offensive line and you almost never throw a pass longer than 10 yards and the occasional 15 yarder. Long receptions result pretty much only on runs after the catch. In our offense you throw long (20 yards or more reasonably frequently). If you want to call our offense a hybrid between a Verticle Passing attack and a West Coast offense that would be more accurate.

As to terminology, the only team I have heard Vermiel say has similar terminology is the Rams and I have never heard the Rams and Martz offense called a West Coast offense.

HemiEd
07-16-2005, 06:06 PM
our offense is a west coast based offense


Are you drunk? :doh!:

Mr. Laz
07-16-2005, 06:50 PM
Are you drunk? :doh!:

it is ... more precisely i guess our offense is a coryell based offense and so is the west coast offense.

Mr. Laz
07-16-2005, 06:50 PM
I am going to have to disagree. Our offense is similar to the Air Coryell and the Rams offense. What both of those have in common is quick, nimble WRs, a Running Back who plays well as a receiver, and two of the three featured the TE as a primary weapon. In a true WC offense the TE is merely another blocker for the offensive line and you almost never throw a pass longer than 10 yards and the occasional 15 yarder. Long receptions result pretty much only on runs after the catch. In our offense you throw long (20 yards or more reasonably frequently). If you want to call our offense a hybrid between a Verticle Passing attack and a West Coast offense that would be more accurate.

As to terminology, the only team I have heard Vermiel say has similar terminology is the Rams and I have never heard the Rams and Martz offense called a West Coast offense.

can't really disagree

HemiEd
07-16-2005, 07:23 PM
it is ... more precisely i guess our offense is a coryell based offense and so is the west coast offense.

So you are saying they are both different branches from the same tree? As long as we agree they are different branches, ok. I think Vlad says it best after reading the rest of the thread. :D Hell, you both know more about this stuff than I do. I do remember when we were trying to run a West Coast offense, kind of sick compared to this one.

TRR
07-16-2005, 07:41 PM
And there's a reason that Mitchell has been in the slot his entire career, even though he only had to beat out Todd Pinkston and James Thrash until last season.

And even with that crap on the filed, he still was relatively unproductive.

CrapEx will not make it out of training camp.

That's my prediction.

I'm willing to bet whatever you want on that prediction. In my opinion, Freddie Mitchell is a lock for the 53 man roster, and will probably be no worse than KC's slot WR.

What do you want to bet?

milkman
07-16-2005, 07:55 PM
I'm willing to bet whatever you want on that prediction. In my opinion, Freddie Mitchell is a lock for the 53 man roster, and will probably be no worse than KC's slot WR.

What do you want to bet?

I'll give it some thought.
Throw out any ideas you might have.

TRR
07-16-2005, 09:10 PM
I'll give it some thought.
Throw out any ideas you might have.

It doesn't matter to me. PM me and let me know.