Biggest surprises/dissapointments for 2005 Chiefs

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

A little early but I wanted to do this before Kawika impresses at TC to make me look like a genius..... or a complete idiot

Biggest Surprise: Kawika Mitchell - he will have a solid maybe even better than solid season with his playmaking ability.

Biggest Dissapointment: Jared Allen - sophomore slump and has only 4 sacks to go along with mediocre run defense as he splits time with Carlos Hall. Of course I hope I am wrong.

other surprises:

-Dexter McCleon has a solid season at nickel back making some big plays with Surtain taking some pressure off of him.

-Boerigter rebounds from injury and puts up great numbers for a #3 receiver

-Black makes people forget about Sampson to round out the O-line and does a damn good job at RT....even better than tait did

- Boomer Grigsby, Robert Holcombe, Bo and others improve the Special Teams even without Beisel and Blaylock

other dissapointments:

-Ambrose starts off ok filling in for Warfield but loses his legs and spends most of the season on the bench falling behind McCleon and Sapp on the depth chart.

-Colquitt isn't the punting savior. Again I hope I am wrong

-Kris Wilson doesn't find the field enough to make much of an impact.

- Key Fox gets lost in the Depth chart and is only an adequate special teamer

What are your predictions?

[milkman]

A little early but I wanted to do this before Kawika impresses at TC to make me look like a genius..... or a complete idiot

Biggest Surprise: Kawika Mitchell - he will have a solid maybe even better than solid season with his playmaking ability.

I still have doubts, although he did show some signs of improvement late in the season last year.
I just don't think he has the smarts and aggressiveness to ever really be a stud MLB

Biggest Dissapointment: Jared Allen - sophomore slump and has only 4 sacks to go along with mediocre run defense as he splits time with Carlos Hall. Of course I hope I am wrong.

I'm not really sure why everyone is so high on Hall.
He's had one good season.
My money says that Allen improves.

other surprises:

-Dexter McCleon has a solid season at nickel back making some big plays with Surtain taking some pressure off of him.

McPassOn has a solid season at NB, because that is the position he is most suited for.
If he had never been asked to play man up in Gun's system at the #2 corner, nobody would be that down on him.

-Boerigter rebounds from injury and puts up great numbers for a #3 receiver

I hope you're right, but I'm thinking that Richard Smith wins the battle for the #3 spot, with Boe as the #4, and CrapEx getting the axe at in the final roster cuts before the season.

-Black makes people forget about Sampson to round out the O-line and does a damn good job at RT....even better than tait did

I think Sampson starts at RT, not because he's better than Black, but because Black has so much potential at LT, and is the heir apparent to Roaf, and the Chiefs don't want to mess with his mechanics this early in his career, and wnat him ready in case of injury to Roaf.

- Boomer Grigsby, Robert Holcombe, Bo and others improve the Special Teams even without Beisel and Blaylock[QUOTE]

Agreed, and even without Stills, who also doesn't get past the last round of cuts.

[QUOTE]other dissapointments:

-Ambrose starts off ok filling in for Warfield but loses his legs and spends most of the season on the bench falling behind McCleon and Sapp on the depth chart.

Ambrose is only here to fill in for Warfield.
After that, it doesn't matter.

-Colquitt isn't the punting savior. Again I hope I am wrong

He might have some rookie moments, but I think he will be a major upgrade.

-Kris Wilson doesn't find the field enough to make much of an impact.[?QUOTE]

Al will get him out there, and create mismatches.


[QUOTE]- Key Fox gets lost in the Depth chart and is only an adequate special teamer

Fox will see the field as the 4th LB in 3-4 sets, and will show he was worthy of the selection.

What are your predictions?

[Deberg_1990]

Ill shoot:
Biggest Surprise:

Sammie Parker 1100 yards 7 TD's
Junior Siavii 50 tackles 6 sacks



Biggest Disappointment: Ryan Sims 30 tackles 1 sack

[keg in kc]

50 tackles and 6 sacks from a backup defensive tackle?

Them's pro bowl numbers.

[Deberg_1990]

50 tackles and 6 sacks from a backup defensive tackle?

Them's pro bowl numbers.

Hopefully he steals Sims Job.....Ive seen enough of that turd

[bringbackmarty]

I really do see flashes with kawika. like when he got in vicks face and ran him down early in the falcons game.
but it does seem like he is oft injured.
Allen 10 sacks, they just don't respect his fourth round ass, and he makes them pay, him repeating last year's performance-this is a surprise in my cynical head.
Ambrose takes warfiledanappealwitheleagues job. they try to put him in, but ashley says uh-uh get in the nickel bitch.
Barber makes it back, so does MAZ! and they both play well.
Hicks has a season ending injury.
odd todd fills in in last game of regular season, (green, holmes resting up for playoffs.) he and fred ex hook up for 150 yds, and 3 td's. fredex finishes season with 850 yds and 8 td's. including one in the super bowl against his old team.

[jspchief]

I'm disappointed that the 2005 Chiefs haven't won a single game yet.

[Rausch]

Biggest Surprise: Stills remains on team and goes to probowl as a special teams player.

Biggest Dissapointment: DJ. His talent is extraordinary, but when you make a mistake at OLB it results in a big gain. Rookies make a lot of mistakes, and many fans are already expecting the guy to walk on water and be the next DT.

In time I think he'll be an unbelievable player, but it won't happen as soon as everyone expects...

[keg in kc]

I'm disappointed that the 2005 Chiefs haven't won a single game yet.I'm a little surprised that we're undefeated.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Ill shoot:
Biggest Surprise:

Sammie Parker 1100 yards 7 TD's
Junior Siavii 50 tackles 6 sacks



Biggest Disappointment: Ryan Sims 30 tackles 1 sack
30 tackles would be an improvement for Sims

[suds79]

Surprises:

Sammie Parker - Wins the starting spot and thus puts up decent numbers while showing he can go deep with his speed.

DJ - Starts from day 1, ends up with around 100 tackles and wins the rookie DPOY.

Kevin Sampson - By our ratings does okay at RT because he couldn't do much worse than John Welbourne did last year.


Dissaponitments:

Priest Holmes isn't able to stay healthy all year. But we love him anyways.

Kawika Mitchell flops and we'll (fans) will be calling for Rich Scanlon and/or Bommer Grigsby all year.

Ryan Sims officially becomes a bust with another mediocre year.

[JimNasium]

Biggest surprises: Kris Wilson has 600+ yards receiving.
Key Fox steals a starting job(I'm not saying which position).
Biggest dissappointment: Sammie Knight is not the answer we thought he was.

[ChiefFripp]

Expecting big things from Jared Allen. I am hoping Sammy Knight lives up to the hype.

[keg in kc]

This is what I see in my crystal ball of silliness.


I think the entire defensive line will be a pleasant surprise, with the exception of Jared Allen. He won't be a disappointment, exactly, but he won't be pushing 10 sacks again, either.

I don't know if "surprise" is the way I'd put it, but I think Greg Wesley is going to have a good year.

I think Patrick Surtain may be a slight disappointment. I think he'll be good, but he's not going to be Football Jesus. I think people are expecting too much; he's not going to be James Hasty and Dale Carter all rolled into one. He'll get beat occasionally, and get villified every time it happens. He'll have a 'burn unit' nickname at some point this year, along the lines of Burntee.

I think that Sammy Knight will be a slight disappointment in the same way. He's going to get beat occasionally, but I think that will get balanced out by the way he'll lead the defense (which is an intangible thing, so harder to value). People may be calling for his replacement (by Bartee of all people) at some time during the year without realizing just what kind of a negative impact that would have on the unit.

We're going to have a huge year at linebacker. DJ will press for DRotY, Kendrell Bell will be a pro bowler and Kawika Mitchell will be solid at MLB.

Tony Gonzalez is going to be a slight disappointment. He won't be playing any worse, but he won't have 100 catches again. Because of the arrival of some younger players, his catch total will drop back into the 80 range, and some will see that as a drop in his play or a mistake on the part of Al Saunders (by not focusing on him). Even though it's not.

Trent Green is going to miss at least one game this year.

Priest Holmes is going to be a surprise, by not missing any time. Either that, or he gets hurt early. I'm not sure which.

Freddie Mitchell is going to be a surprise, making an impact as our #3 receiver. (Parker will thrive as #2, another semi-surprise). Eddie Kennison will not have 1000 yards again. But Kennison, Parker and Mitchell will combine for 2400-2500 yards, each with 45-60 receptions.

Tony Richardson is going to be a disappointment. Cracks start to show, due to his age.

Will Shields and Willie Roaf are going to show some signs of decay. The line will still be one of the best, but we're going to have to make some changes in our blocking scheme for their sake.

Kris Wilson will have an impact, but will be seen as a disappointment because he only catches 20-25 balls.

Colquitt will be fine, as will Tynes.

[cdcox]

Biggest surprise: we win the Superbowl

Biggest disappointment: we don't win the Superbowl


That about covers it.

[Archie Bunker]

Biggest Suprise: Kawika Mitchell
Others considered: Freddie Mitchell, William Bartee, Ashley Ambrose

Biggest Disappointment: Sammy Knight
Others considered: Jared Allen, Ryan Sims, Carlos Hall

[DeepSouth]

By mid season people will be comparing Sammy Parker to Marvin Harrison.

[milkman]

Biggest Surprise: Stills remains on team and goes to probowl as a special teams player.

Stills is a LB now, so who do you think will be cut in favor of Stills?

Also remember, as a defensive player, he's a pass rush specialist(sic) with 8 (count 'em) sacks in 5 years, who's a liability against the run.

[DTLB58]

Biggest surprise: we win the Superbowl

Biggest disappointment: we don't win the Superbowl


That about covers it.

Bottom line...That about sums it up.

But that's easy and no fun. But I kust can't predict Chhiefs failing this season especially the new guys with all the hope we have.

Oh yea, except Hicks he WILL fail again......

[Fire Me Boy!]

50 tackles and 6 sacks from a backup defensive tackle?

Them's pro bowl numbers.
PLUS one NEAR interception, where he breaks his stomach.

[Fire Me Boy!]

We stop the Denver bootleg.

[DaneMcCloud]

Biggest Surprise: The Chiefs find it far more effective to play a 3-4 Defense consisting of Hall, Dalton & Allen on the D-Line and DJ, Grigsby, Bell & Fox as the starting LB'ers. Grigsby would be replaced on passing downs.

Biggest Disappointment: Who else? Ryan Sims.

[milkman]

Biggest Surprise: The Chiefs find it far more effective to play a 3-4 Defense consisting of Hall, Dalton & Allen on the D-Line and DJ, Grigsby, Bell & Fox as the starting LB'ers. Grigsby would be replaced on passing downs.

Biggest Disappointment: Who else? Ryan Sims.

Need more size in the D-Line than Hall, Dalton and Allen for a 3-4 to be effective.

[Hammock Parties]

We stop the Denver bootleg.

We stopped that shit at Arrowhead last time, baby!

[chiefsfan1963]

Biggest Surprise: Chiefs win the SB

Biggest Disappointment: Vermeil retires

:)

[Logical]

Biggest Dissappointment (but no suprised) Mitchell is a disaster at MLB

Biggest Suprise contract year causes Ryan Sims to play up to his potential (don't expect it to repeat if he resigns)

Team suprises/dissappointments

Defense will only improve to around 20th in the NFL biggest dissappointment

Defense is in top 5 of turnovers created biggest suprise

[Mr. Laz]

I think Patrick Surtain may be a slight disappointment. I think he'll be good, but he's not going to be Football Jesus. I think people are expecting too much; he's not going to be James Hasty and Dale Carter all rolled into one. He'll get beat occasionally, and get villified every time it happens. He'll have a 'burn unit' nickname at some point this year, along the lines of Burntee.

I think that Sammy Knight will be a slight disappointment in the same way. He's going to get beat occasionally, but I think that will get balanced out by the way he'll lead the defense (which is an intangible thing, so harder to value). People may be calling for his replacement (by Bartee of all people) at some time during the year without realizing just what kind of a negative impact that would have on the unit.

We're going to have a huge year at linebacker. DJ will press for DRotY, Kendrell Bell will be a pro bowler and Kawika Mitchell will be solid at MLB.
good for linebackers ... bad for secondary



heh ... who'da thunk it ;)

[Brock]

Biggest Surprise: The Chiefs find it far more effective to play a 3-4 Defense consisting of Hall, Dalton & Allen on the D-Line and DJ, Grigsby, Bell & Fox as the starting LB'ers. Grigsby would be replaced on passing downs.

Biggest Disappointment: Who else? Ryan Sims.

How can anyone be disappointed in Ryan Sims at this point? To be disappointed, you'd have to expect something out of him.

[keg in kc]

good for linebackers ... bad for secondaryI'm not sure I get what you're saying. I said the secondary play will be better, but people will be disappointed because they don't have realistic expectations. And I'd probably say the converse about the linebackers; so much has been added at the position, that it'll probably be night and day from anything we've seen in 6 or 8 years. Hell, maybe it'll be that was across the board in the back 7. It's hard to say which is a bigger upgrade, talent like Lew Bush, Glen Cadrez and Mike Maslowski replaced by Kendrell Bell and Derrick Johnson, or guys like Ray Crockett, Dexter McCleon and Jerome Woods replaced by the likes of Patrick Surtain and Sammy Knight. And I've said it all offseason, I think the entire defense will prosper because of it.

My point was only that the first time Surtain or Knight give up a long play or (gasp) a TD, there'll be calls for their head. That's the kind of "disappointment" I'm referring to.

[Frankie]

I still have doubts, although he did show some signs of improvement late in the season last year.
I just don't think he has the smarts and aggressiveness to ever really be a stud MLB I disagree. I also think under Gun he will be a fine MLB.

I'm not really sure why everyone is so high on Hall.He's had one good season. My money says that Allen improves.I agree. Hall, may be better than we expect. But I don't think the soph slump theory applies to guys with JA's mentality.

McPassOn has a solid season at NB, because that is the position he is most suited for. If he had never been asked to play man up in Gun's system at the #2 corner, nobody would be that down on him. While I agree here, I'm not a big fan of McLeon, and won't miss him if he gets cut.

I hope you're right, but I'm thinking that Richard Smith wins the battle for the #3 spot, with Boe as the #4, and CrapEx getting the axe at in the final roster cuts before the season. Why all the ill will for Craphonso? I don't get it! Shouldn't you, as a Chiefs fan, be really happy if he (a draft choice) ends up better than Smith who was a mere FA with only a good preseason?

I think Sampson starts at RT, not because he's better than Black, but because Black has so much potential at LT, and is the heir apparent to Roaf, and the Chiefs don't want to mess with his mechanics this early in his career, and wnat him ready in case of injury to Roaf. I agree with your logic here. I think that's the best long term scenario for us.

[Frankie]

Biggest Suprise: Kawika Mitchell
Others considered: Freddie Mitchell, William Bartee, Ashley Ambrose

Bartee. Yes.

[Frankie]

By mid season people will be comparing Sammy Parker to Marvin Harrison.
Oh yeah? Now how about "Samie" Parker?

[whtgldwldr]

Biggest Surprise: Freddie Mitchell, IMO he is a hella-talented guy who, if he can get his head straight, could be a contender in this league.

Also Considered: Kawika Mitchell, I loved watching him play later in the season last year and, gunn said that he impressed him in minicamps.

Biggest Dissapointment: Our rushing attack will likely falter slightly as more defenses will key in entirely on priest/lj. Priest will probly sit out at least 4 games, during which LJ will prove that he deserves the starting spot. However, the natural Kansas City loyalty will force us to put a floundering priest back in.

Also considered: Samie Parker, he looked impressive at the end of last year, but he's still young...and it will be tough to crack the starting roster for this kid.

[Mr. Laz]

I'm not sure I get what you're saying. I said the secondary play will be better, but people will be disappointed because they don't have realistic expectations. And I'd probably say the converse about the linebackers; so much has been added at the position, that it'll probably be night and day from anything we've seen in 6 or 8 years. Hell, maybe it'll be that was across the board in the back 7. It's hard to say which is a bigger upgrade, talent like Lew Bush, Glen Cadrez and Mike Maslowski replaced by Kendrell Bell and Derrick Johnson, or guys like Ray Crockett, Dexter McCleon and Jerome Woods replaced by the likes of Patrick Surtain and Sammy Knight. And I've said it all offseason, I think the entire defense will prosper because of it.

My point was only that the first time Surtain or Knight give up a long play or (gasp) a TD, there'll be calls for their head. That's the kind of "disappointment" I'm referring to.
i'm just goofin' :p


your predictions just match your defensive philosophy

secondary is over rated and over hype = you don't think a shutdown corner exists and therefore people will be disappointed.


big on linebackers = you think linebacker is gonna be the big difference

[keg in kc]

your predictions just match your defensive philosophy

secondary is over rated and over hype = you don't think a shutdown corner exists and therefore people will be disappointed.


big on linebackers = you think linebacker is gonna be the big differenceI don't think you could be more wrong if you tried. I'll say it again: the DBs will be better, but unless they don't give up a big play all year, most people will be disappointed. I don't think I'll be disappointed, personally. I'm not expecting them to struggle in any way. But I'm expecting there to be a perception among fans that they are.

And I don't think LB is going to be the big difference. I don't think I've said that anywhere. I think improving the outside linebackers will help Mitchell at MLB. I think that, in turn, will help the safeties against the run, and all the DBs in pass defense. As will adding Surtain and Knight to the secondary and, in my opinion, moving Wesley to free safety. All that, ultimately, meaning improving the LB and the secondary in the way I described, is going to help the d-line play better. Because that's the key to defense for me. Not linebacker; d-line.

If there's anything I could conceive this year that would disappoint me, it would be that: despite all the improvement behind them, if the d-line struggles, that would be a big disappointment. We have too much talent in the back seven now for the d-line to have any excuses.

[Deberg_1990]

Biggest Surprise: Trent Green goes down in game 8 and Collins comes in and leads us to the promised land!

Biggest Disappointment: Patrick Surtain plays down to his fellow DB's and becomes the next Champ Bailey!

[Mr. Laz]

but unless they don't give up a big play all year, most people will be disappointed. .
thanks for the vote of confidence in the intelligence of Chiefs fans, Rufus.









i was just kidding around ... grumpy

[Hammock Parties]

Biggest Surprise: Trent Green goes down in game 8 and Collins comes in and leads us to the promised land!

Bad juju.

[milkman]

I disagree. I also think under Gun he will be a fine MLB.

I hope you're right, and I will be rooting for him.
If he gets it, and he shows some aggressive play, then he really could be a hell of a LB.

I agree. Hall, may be better than we expect. But I don't think the soph slump theory applies to guys with JA's mentality.

That was my thinking as well.

While I agree here, I'm not a big fan of McLeon, and won't miss him if he gets cut.

I'm not a big fan either, hence the name "McPassOn".

Why all the ill will for Craphonso? I don't get it! Shouldn't you, as a Chiefs fan, be really happy if he (a draft choice) ends up better than Smith who was a mere FA with only a good preseason?

I hadn't thought of Thorpe, and the confusion the name I've used would create.
I was talking about Freddie Mitchell, not Cray.

I agree with your logic here. I think that's the best long term scenario for us.

Agreed.

[Hammock Parties]

How quickly we forget how good McCleon was in '03. I think his biggest problem last year was injuries.

[milkman]

Biggest Surprise: Freddie Mitchell, IMO he is a hella-talented guy who, if he can get his head straight, could be a contender in this league.

Also Considered: Kawika Mitchell, I loved watching him play later in the season last year and, gunn said that he impressed him in minicamps.

Already touched on these, but just to reiterate my stance, I don't think Mitchell adds anything to the Chiefs, and will not be surprised in the least if he doesn't make it to the regular season.

Biggest Dissapointment: Our rushing attack will likely falter slightly as more defenses will key in entirely on priest/lj. Priest will probly sit out at least 4 games, during which LJ will prove that he deserves the starting spot. However, the natural Kansas City loyalty will force us to put a floundering priest back in.

I just can't see our ground game faltering, because the O-Line is just to good, and defenses will get burned in the air if they place to much emphasis on stopping the run.

Also considered: Samie Parker, he looked impressive at the end of last year, but he's still young...and it will be tough to crack the starting roster for this kid.

Since I've already told you I don't think Freddie makes the roster, you should already know that I think Samie will be the #2 receiver.

I also thinks he puts up pretty good numbers.
50-60 catches for 800-850 yards.

[milkman]

How quickly we forget how good McCleon was in '03. I think his biggest problem last year was injuries.

No, his biggest problem last year was playing in an aggressive physical scheme, which he simply isn't suited to play.

He'll be fine as the NB cause he plays better in space.

[Logical]

Biggest Surprise: Trent Green goes down in game 8 and Collins comes in and leads us to the promised land!

Biggest Disappointment: Patrick Surtain plays down to his fellow DB's and becomes the next Champ Bailey!I would be fine if Surtain plays as well as Champ played last year given the lack of CB help he is going to have. We still have only one legitimate CB for the entire season and that is Surtain. Warfield will get us by if he plays out of his head good, he has very limited talent and is at best a weak #2. I am also not convinced our safeties will be all that good in coverage, but they should be decent to good run stoppers.

[Frankie]

I just can't see our ground game faltering, because the O-Line is just to good, ......
Yet the state of the O-line is my most gnawing worry. Stram's team went from SuperBowl contenders to bad in the span of one off-season, mainly because the great O-line aged that fast. Nothing will make me feel more relieved than seeing our current O-line come out and play like last season.

[Logical]

Yet the state of the O-line is my most gnawing worry. Stram's team went from SuperBowl contenders to bad in the span of one off-season, mainly because the great O-line aged that fast. Nothing will make me feel more relieved than seeing our current O-line come out and play like last season.

Actually that was a gradual decline not all in one year

1900 yards rushing 72
1700 yards rushing 73
1400 yards rushing 74

It was more due to the actual players leaving
Tyrer left the Chiefs after 1973
Dave Hill left the Chiefs after 1973
Mo Moorman left after 1973

That is 3/5s of those great offensive lines that left.

[Frankie]

Actually that was a gradual decline not all in one year

1900 yards rushing 72
1700 yards rushing 73
1400 yards rushing 74

It was more due to the actual players leaving
Tyrer left the Chiefs after 1973
Dave Hill left the Chiefs after 1973
Mo Moorman left after 1973

That is 3/5s of those great offensive lines that left.
That's the kind of being corrected that I like. Admittedly I was very new to the sport of American Football in the early 70s. I just remember reading an "expert analysis" and Stram's staying with the O-line too long was mentioned as the cause of the team decline.

[the Talking Can]

Surprise:

DJ is the real deal. Yes, some costly rookie mistakes, but he will a talent we haven't seen since Gonzo showed up.
Parker only has 35-45 catches but they're impact plays.
Bell stays healthy and hits people like we haven't seen in YEARS.
Dalton continues his inspired play.
Wesley, inspired by Bell, starts hitting again.
Colquitt makes an immediate impact.
Woods gets cut.
Barber gets cut/injury settlement.
Maz ditto.


Disappointment:

Bo gets cut.
Siavii has nagging injury and isn't much of an impact.
Warfield struggles as offenses focus on him to avoid Surtain.
Hicks doesn't die.
Sims doesn't feel any shame when he cashes his paycheck.
LJ creates waves about playing time mid-season.
No consistent MLB play and Gun won't put Bell in the middle.
We continue to be soft against the run right up the gut.
Problems at RT all year continuing our predictable trend of running mostly to the left.

[B_Ambuehl]

Surprises:

Key Fox- As good if not better then DJ without the hype
Wesley- pissed off and playing like it
Siavii - the bright spot on the d-line
Woods- ditto Wesley
Richard Smith- How many years do we have to go through this before you put his ass in the game coach??
Lawrence Tynes- Keeping us in several games
Colquitt- Inconsistent with his range but people have trouble fielding his punts which has given the ST many turnovers.

Disappointments:

Sammy Knight- Too slow
Pat Surtain- Any corner in this scheme can be made to look awful bad without defensive pressure
Kendrell Bell- Injured early and never completely healthy
DJ- Doesn't tackle or take on blocks well.
Jared Allen- Sophomore slump - out of shape in camp and got in the doghouse
Trent Green - Age starting to show
Priest Holmes- Ditto Green
Shields - injured early
Roaf - ditto shields
Offensive Line- Giving up a ton of sacks
Larry Johnson- Not his fault but isn't living up to the hype he created last year simply because the holes aren't as big.
Defensive Line- Just when you thought you had the defense fixed you suddenly realize your DE status going into 2006 is now worse then the 2005 CB status.
Scanlon- Will never be given much of an opportunity here thus the emergence of the "scan-backer" will have to wait.
Boomer- Pushes Kawika for the starting spot in preseason but loses the spot by dropping multiple possible interceptions that hit him right in the hands and a lack of instinct defending the pass.

edit: I'm intentionally trying to be pessimistic so hopefully i'm wrong on most of the disapointments :)