PDA

View Full Version : 1st round signing (updating)


Mr. Laz
07-28-2005, 08:07 PM
First-round draft pick signing status

PK Team Player Pos School Contract
1 49ers Alex Smith QB Utah 6 years,$49.5 million($24 mill SB)
2 Dolphins Ronnie Brown RB Auburn Unsigned
3 Browns Braylon Edwards WR Michigan Unsigned
4 Bears Cedric Benson RB Texas Unsigned
5 Buccaneers Carnell Williams RB Auburn Signed, terms undisclosed
6 Titans Adam Jones DB West Virginia Unsigned
7 Vikings(frm Raider) Troy Williamson WR S. Carolina Unsigned
8 Cardinals Antrel Rolle DB Miami (FL) Unsigned
9 Redskins Carlos Rogers DB Auburn Unsigned
10 Lions Mike Williams WR USC Signed, terms undisclosed
11 Cowboys Demarcus Ware DE Troy 5 year deal, $13 million
12 Chargers(from Giants) Shawne Merriman DE Maryland 5 year deal, $11.33 million
13 Saints(from Texans) Jammal Brown OL Oklahoma 5 year deal, $11 million
14 Panthers Thomas Davis S Georgia 5 year deal, $10.6 million
15 Chiefs Derrick Johnson LB Texas 5 year deal, $10.5 million
16 Texans(from Saints) Travis Johnson NT Florida St 5 year deal, $10.2 million
17 Bengals David Pollack DE Georgia Unsigned
18 Vikings Erasmus James DL Wisconsin Unsigned
19 Rams Alex Barron T Florida State Unsigned
20 Cowboys (from Bills) Marcus Spears DE LSU 5 year deal, $9.35 million
21 Jaguars Matt Jones QB Arkansas 5 years, ~$11 million
22 Ravens Mark Clayton WR Oklahoma Unsigned
23 Raiders(from hawks)Fabian Washington CB Nebraska Signed, terms undisclosed
24 Packers Aaron Rodgers QB California Signed, terms undisclosed
25 Redskins(from Broncos) Jason Campbell QB Auburn Signed, terms undisclosed
26 Seahawks(from Jets) Chris Spencer C Mississippi Unsigned
27 Falcons Roddy White WR UAB 5 years, undisclosed
28 Chargers Luis Castillo DT Northwestern 5 years, $7.035 million
29 Colts Marlin Jackson CB Michigan 5 years, $6.975 million
30 Steelers Heath Miller TE Virginia 5 years, $6.89 million
31 Eagles Mike Patterson DT USC 5 years, $6.60 million
32 Patriots Logan Mankins T Fresno State 5 years, $6.40 million


ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports the Dallas Cowboys reached a five-year deal with rookie LB DeMarcus Ware, a first-round draft choice. The deal is worth $13 million, with $10 million in guaranteed money.


Cowboys | Spears Agrees to Five-year Deal
Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:30:43 -0700

ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports the Dallas Cowboys reached a five-year deal with rookie DE Marcus Spears, a first-round draft choice. The deal is worth $9.35 million, with $6.7 million in guaranteed money

the Talking Can
07-28-2005, 08:12 PM
2 out of the top 25?

damn...lol

KCChiefsMan
07-28-2005, 08:38 PM
I bet that Carl is waiting for Merriman and Davis to sign before he deals with DJ

cdcox
07-28-2005, 09:19 PM
Geez, get it done already. The slotting is set. Sign him for between $7.035M and $49.5M and be done with it.

carlos3652
07-28-2005, 09:25 PM
Geez, get it done already. The slotting is set. Sign him for between $7.035M and $49.5M and be done with it.


ROFL

StcChief
07-28-2005, 09:44 PM
No gap there....

Tribal Warfare
07-28-2005, 09:58 PM
I bet that Carl is waiting for Merriman and Davis to sign before he deals with DJ


As Ed McMahon would say "your correct sir"

Nzoner
07-29-2005, 11:26 AM
Another one down,Cadillac signs (http://theredzone.org/news/showarticle.asp?ArticleID=2944)

Mr. Laz
07-29-2005, 11:28 AM
Another one down,Cadillac signs (http://theredzone.org/news/showarticle.asp?ArticleID=2944)

thank you

BigChiefFan
07-29-2005, 11:35 AM
Good thread-let's hope DJ signs soon.

KChiefs1
07-29-2005, 12:24 PM
Jammal Brown signed too.

siberian khatru
07-29-2005, 12:26 PM
The vise closes in around DJ ...

carlos3652
07-29-2005, 12:28 PM
Jammal Brown signed too.

If that is the case it should be done by Saturday, they need to get this done before the Cowboys...

beer bacon
07-29-2005, 12:39 PM
Thomas Davis just signed. There is no reason why DJ shouldn't be signed today or tomorrow.

KChiefs1
07-29-2005, 12:50 PM
Panthers | Davis Agrees to Five-year Deal
Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:26:59 -0700

ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports the Carolina Panthers have reached a contract agreement with rookie S Thomas Davis, a first-round draft choice, on a five-year, $10.6 million deal. It includes $7.97 million in guaranteed money.

htismaqe
07-29-2005, 01:33 PM
With Davis signed, DJ will be in shortly.

alanm
07-29-2005, 01:39 PM
Panthers | Davis Agrees to Five-year Deal
Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:26:59 -0700

ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports the Carolina Panthers have reached a contract agreement with rookie S Thomas Davis, a first-round draft choice, on a five-year, $10.6 million deal. It includes $7.97 million in guaranteed money.Man, that's a huge dropoff from 1 to 14.
:eek:

Mr. Laz
07-29-2005, 01:50 PM
Man, that's a huge dropoff from 1 to 14.
:eek:
the top 3 picks are just huge money



i think that's what the nfl players association wants to squelch a little.


no 50 million dollar contracts for the 1st pick means more veteran money

KCFalcon59
07-29-2005, 01:53 PM
5 year 10.2 - 10.4 and DJ is in camp. Sign him Carl!!!!

BigChiefFan
07-29-2005, 01:54 PM
Man, that's a huge dropoff from 1 to 14.
:eek:I'm amazed at the $24 million signing bonus for a player that has never even taken a snap in the NFL. He's set for life before he has to prove a damn thing. Unbelievable.

ChiTown
07-29-2005, 01:56 PM
5 year 10.2 - 10.4 and DJ is in camp. Sign him Carl!!!!

I'd imagine the complications are hung up in the signing bonus....

ct
07-29-2005, 02:06 PM
I'd imagine the complications are hung up in the signing bonus....

Brown(13) got 8.5, Davis(14) got 7.9, so DJ(15) should be somewhere around 7.5 guaranteed $.

ChiTown
07-29-2005, 02:19 PM
Brown(13) got 8.5, Davis(14) got 7.9, so DJ(15) should be somewhere around 7.5 guaranteed $.

I initially guessed, earlier this week, at $11MM contract with a $7.5MM sb.

Mr. Laz
07-30-2005, 05:22 PM
updated

Nightfyre
07-30-2005, 05:23 PM
10.35 mil. Bank on it.

Wile_E_Coyote
07-30-2005, 06:18 PM
kick ass thread

CrazyHorse
07-30-2005, 06:23 PM
kick ass thread

This is a kick ass thread. It should have a sticky on it.

Whatcha think?

KChiefs1
07-30-2005, 06:24 PM
First-round draft pick signing status

PK Team Player Pos School Contract
11 Cowboys Demarcus Ware DE Troy 5 year deal, $13 million
12 Chargers(from Giants) Shawne Merriman DE Maryland Unsigned
13 Saints(from Texans) Jammal Brown OL Oklahoma 5 year deal, $11 million
14 Panthers Thomas Davis S Georgia 5 year deal, $10.6 million
15 Chiefs Derrick Johnson LB Texas Unsigned
16 Texans(from Saints) Travis Johnson NT Florida St 5 year deal, $10.2 million


Come on Carl! :cuss:

mlyonsd
07-30-2005, 06:26 PM
Crap Carl, just offer him the same as the 14th pick and be done with it. The Planet will pick up the difference between that and what you were going to offer.

alanm
07-30-2005, 07:00 PM
Seems to me that it's a no brainer. 5 yrs. at $10.4 million. I bet Carl is trying to low ball him. :cuss: :banghead: :cuss:

htismaqe
07-30-2005, 07:04 PM
It's all Carl's fault.

KCFalcon59
07-30-2005, 07:39 PM
It's all Carl's fault.

I knew it!!!!!!! :banghead:

:)

ChiTown
07-30-2005, 07:55 PM
It's all Carl's fault.

In all seriousness, this deal should be worked out shortly. There's really no excuse at this point.

beer bacon
07-30-2005, 07:59 PM
Packers | Rodgers Signed
Sat, 30 Jul 2005 18:48:46 -0700

The Green Bay Packers have announced the signing of rookie QB Aaron Rodgers, a first-round draft choice. Terms of the deal were not disclosed.

----------------------

I look forward to the day when we too, the Kansas City Chiefs, can also sign our first round draft choice.

tk13
07-30-2005, 08:15 PM
In all seriousness, this deal should be worked out shortly. There's really no excuse at this point.
I'd guess ol' Vann McElroy wants to blow up the slotting to try and get every last dollar possible, he's really got nothing to lose . Carl said the other day that the slotting is pretty much set, when DJ's people realize that he'll be signed. And knowing Carl, I'd guess he's not budging from that.

J Diddy
07-30-2005, 08:20 PM
I'd guess ol' Vann McElroy wants to blow up the slotting to try and get every last dollar possible, he's really got nothing to lose . Carl said the other day that the slotting is pretty much set, when DJ's people realize that he'll be signed. And knowing Carl, I'd guess he's not budging from that.

The sucky thing is if he's gambling with DJ knowing that we probably need him to play this year. No matter what Carl says that is the truth. Why not try to blow up the slotting to get more money when he's holding all the cards. The longer he holds out the more likely he won't contribute significantly. I wouldn't be surprised to see him hold out longer then he should just because of that.

milkman
07-30-2005, 08:39 PM
The sucky thing is if he's gambling with DJ knowing that we probably need him to play this year. No matter what Carl says that is the truth. Why not try to blow up the slotting to get more money when he's holding all the cards. The longer he holds out the more likely he won't contribute significantly. I wouldn't be surprised to see him hold out longer then he should just because of that.

I would think that McElroy knows that Carl has a reputation a s "tough SOB negotiator", and knows that Carl is probably more than willing to let him hold out if he trys blow up the slotting.

I'm betting that DJ is signed by Monday, Tuesday at the latest.

J Diddy
07-30-2005, 08:40 PM
I would think that McElroy knows that Carl has a reputation a s "tough SOB negotiator", and knows that Carl is probably more than willing to let him hold out if he trys blow up the slotting.

I'm betting that DJ is signed by Monday, Tuesday at the latest.

I don't know....

I hope so, but whenever I hope so I get let down.

Hoping this isn't one of them things.

htismaqe
07-30-2005, 08:56 PM
It's all Carl's fault.

ChiTown
07-30-2005, 08:57 PM
It's all Carl's fault.
STFU & STFD

milkman
07-30-2005, 08:59 PM
It's all Carl's fault.

Damnit Carl! :cuss:

Gotta do that at least once a month, cause I think my head'll explode if I don't.

htismaqe
07-30-2005, 09:01 PM
STFU & STFD

Ahem.

One must STFD before one S's TFU.

Thank you.

eazyb81
07-30-2005, 09:10 PM
5 years, 10.4 mill.....WTF are you waiting for Carl?

Hell, i might even go up to 10.5 if ol McElroy twisted my arm......either way, this deal should already be done.

tk13
07-30-2005, 09:23 PM
5 years, 10.4 mill.....WTF are you waiting for Carl?

Hell, i might even go up to 10.5 if ol McElroy twisted my arm......either way, this deal should already be done.
I've never understood the attitude on this board that Carl is the only slimy car salesman.....well, he sure can be, but really the idea that all sports agents are good wholesome people who would never try to hold things up to squeeze more money out for their clients...

beer bacon
07-30-2005, 10:00 PM
I've never understood the attitude on this board that Carl is the only slimy car salesman.....well, he sure can be, but really the idea that all sports agents are good wholesome people who would never try to hold things up to squeeze more money out for their clients...

From everything I have read McElroy has a reputation for working with teams to get players signed as opposed to being a jerkass. He also has a reputation for getting his players in camp on time. On the other hand, King Carl eats babies. We all know who is to blame here.

tk13
07-30-2005, 10:06 PM
From everything I have read McElroy has a reputation for working with teams to get players signed as opposed to be a jerkass. He also has a reputation for getting his players in camp on time. On the other hand, King Carl eats babies. We all know who is to blame here.
Point well taken. Burn Carl at the stake!

:)

royr17
07-31-2005, 03:37 AM
DJ needs to sign soon, our first preseason game is the 12th of August, so only 12 days till the chiefs are on.

htismaqe
07-31-2005, 05:00 AM
From everything I have read McElroy has a reputation for working with teams to get players signed as opposed to being a jerkass. He also has a reputation for getting his players in camp on time. On the other hand, King Carl eats babies. We all know who is to blame here.

Name a player McElroy has represented.

ictChief
07-31-2005, 06:31 AM
After the evening practice on Saturday, Carl Peterson drove up to the player parking area and dropped someone off. He stayed around a bit to sign autographs from the window of his SUV. I asked him about DJ and he said that both players on each side have signed so it should be very easy. The tough part will be getting DJ and McElroy to see that! DJ is the first 'first round pick' McElroy has ever signed.

On a side note....While at practice Sat. night during 11 on 11 drills, all of a sudden a player shows up in shorts and stood in the D-backfield to watch the plays. A coach was close by and they were talking off and on. He didn't appear to be comfortable in his surroundings, which suggested to me that they were new to him. He also interracted with players at the end of each play. The people I was around didn't recognize him and we believe that it was DJ and the signing hasn't hit the news!

nascher
07-31-2005, 06:54 AM
Aaron Rodgers is signed too.

penguinz
07-31-2005, 07:10 AM
Name a player McElroy has represented.
Tomy Maddox, Reggie Tongue, Kliff Kingsbury.

Kclee
07-31-2005, 07:26 AM
After the evening practice on Saturday, Carl Peterson drove up to the player parking area and dropped someone off. He stayed around a bit to sign autographs from the window of his SUV. I asked him about DJ and he said that both players on each side have signed so it should be very easy. The tough part will be getting DJ and McElroy to see that! DJ is the first 'first round pick' McElroy has ever signed.

On a side note....While at practice Sat. night during 11 on 11 drills, all of a sudden a player shows up in shorts and stood in the D-backfield to watch the plays. A coach was close by and they were talking off and on. He didn't appear to be comfortable in his surroundings, which suggested to me that they were new to him. He also interracted with players at the end of each play. The people I was around didn't recognize him and we believe that it was DJ and the signing hasn't hit the news!

Well, look at the post under yours.(50) Now look at the sig. Is that him?

htismaqe
07-31-2005, 07:27 AM
Tomy Maddox, Reggie Tongue, Kliff Kingsbury.

My point exactly.

StcChief
07-31-2005, 07:43 AM
If he's already in River Falls it will be done today.

4th and Long
07-31-2005, 08:06 AM
If he's already in River Falls it will be done today.
1. Can we quote you on that?

Oh wait, I just did. :D

2. If you're wrong, can we all line up and take turns kicking you in the junk?

:p

Chiefnj
07-31-2005, 08:47 AM
The signing bonus can't really be holding things up because reportedly Thomas Davis got 7.9 million in guaranteed money and Travis Johnson got 7.77 million. There's not much wiggle room between those numbers unless one player is getting the bulk in a 2nd tier.

carlos3652
07-31-2005, 09:00 AM
I think that the Market is set, Carl is ready to give theprice of #14 , but the Agent knows that Carl loses if DJ is not in camp on time... He probably wants to get paid as a Top 10

5 year deal, $12/13 million instead of $10.4 just because DJ slipped on Draft Day doesnt mean he was not one of the TOP 10 players in the NCAA last year.

Watch him be in Camp next week @ 5 years 11.25 - $8 SB...

htismaqe
07-31-2005, 09:05 AM
Carl will not step that far outside the slotting, if at all.

nascher
07-31-2005, 09:23 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2120859

Roddy White signed today.

KChiefs1
07-31-2005, 09:27 AM
Falcons | Rookie White Signed
Sun, 31 Jul 2005 08:04:56 -0700

AtlantaFalcons.com reports the Atlanta Falcons have signed first-round draft pick WR Roddy White to a five-year contract. Financial terms were not disclosed.

alanm
07-31-2005, 09:40 AM
I've never understood the attitude on this board that Carl is the only slimy car salesman.....well, he sure can be, but really the idea that all sports agents are good wholesome people who would never try to hold things up to squeeze more money out for their clients...
That's a hoot. You realize that the players have to pay their agents don't you. Probably every extra cent they finagle goes in THEIR pocket. :cuss:

Mr. Laz
07-31-2005, 10:01 AM
i can no longer edit the post ...


so can a mod put roddy white signing in the list?

KChiefs1
07-31-2005, 10:15 AM
So let's see....that makes 15 outta the 32 first round picks signed so far...picks #14 & #16 have signed. :hmmm:

What's the holdup? I mean DJ wanted to be in camp on time & King Carl said they wanted him in camp on time...so what's the fockin' holdup???????????????? :banghead:

Dammit Carl!!!!!!!!! :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

htismaqe
07-31-2005, 10:17 AM
i can no longer edit the post ...

so can a mod put roddy white signing in the list?

Done.

htismaqe
07-31-2005, 10:17 AM
So let's see....that makes 15 outta the 32 first round picks signed so far...picks #14 & #16 have signed. :hmmm:

What's the holdup? I mean DJ wanted to be in camp on time & King Carl said they wanted him in camp on time...so what's the fockin' holdup???????????????? :banghead:

Dammit Carl!!!!!!!!! :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

DJ says he wants to be in camp on time, but he's not.

Carl says he wants DJ to be in camp on time, but he's not.

Yes, it's CLEARLY all Carl's fault.

Mr. Laz
07-31-2005, 10:20 AM
DJ says he wants to be in camp on time, but he's not.

Carl says he wants DJ to be in camp on time, but he's not.

Yes, it's CLEARLY all Carl's fault.
history sure leans towards that



but bah!!! ... we don't need no stinkin' history

carlos3652
07-31-2005, 10:23 AM
Carl will not step that far outside the slotting, if at all.

What did Tait get when he held out? Did he get paid Slotting terms?

Crush
07-31-2005, 10:23 AM
You guys don't realize how silly you look right now. Well I'm going back to my time machine to an era where DJ had a 12 sack rookie season and the Chiefs beat the Vikings 16-13 in Super Bowl XL. See you guys in February.

KChiefs1
07-31-2005, 10:28 AM
Yes, it's CLEARLY all Carl's fault.

CLEARLY you haven't read this have you? :hmmm:

http://www.georgeblowfish.com/Chiefspage8.html


Dammit Carl! :cuss:

htismaqe
07-31-2005, 10:37 AM
What did Tait get when he held out? Did he get paid Slotting terms?

14th pick -- John Tait -- 5 years, $6.2M ($8.5M with incentives), $4M SB

http://www.kcstar.com/item/pages/printer.pat,sports/3773d474.908,.html

13th pick -- Troy Edwards -- 5 years, ~ $6M, ~$4M SB

http://www.post-gazette.com/steelers/19990722edwards1.asp

http://www.kcstar.com/item/pages/printer.pat,sports/3773be85.805,.html

htismaqe
07-31-2005, 10:38 AM
CLEARLY you haven't read this have you? :hmmm:

http://www.georgeblowfish.com/Chiefspage8.html


Dammit Carl! :cuss:

I've read it several times. It doesn't make it any more relevant.

htismaqe
07-31-2005, 10:39 AM
history sure leans towards that



but bah!!! ... we don't need no stinkin' history

Really?

Can you please post some examples of times when the slotting was set and Carl asked a player to take LESS money...

carlos3652
07-31-2005, 10:42 AM
14th pick -- John Tait -- 5 years, $6.2M ($8.5M with incentives), $4M SB

http://www.kcstar.com/item/pages/printer.pat,sports/3773d474.908,.html

13th pick -- Troy Edwards -- 5 years, ~ $6M, ~$4M SB

http://www.post-gazette.com/steelers/19990722edwards1.asp

http://www.kcstar.com/item/pages/printer.pat,sports/3773be85.805,.html

So Carl had to pay him more than the 13th Pick... Do you think DJ's Agent has this info and would use it against Carl to get this done with incentives as well..

REP for the info, I tried googling it with no results...

carlos3652
07-31-2005, 10:46 AM
14th pick -- John Tait -- 5 years, $6.2M ($8.5M with incentives), $4M SB

13th pick -- Troy Edwards -- 5 years, ~ $6M, ~$4M SB

http://www.kcstar.com/item/pages/printer.pat,sports/3773be85.805,.html

Peterson said the Chiefs' contract offer to Tait is based on the contract recently signed by the player selected in front of him, Pittsburgh wide receiver Troy Edwards.

Edwards signed a five-year deal worth a total of about $6 million and received a signing bonus of about $4 million.

"We have him an offer that we thought was very, very fair," Peterson said. "It shouldn't be that difficult. I don't know why it is."

Tait's agent, Ethan Lock, said he had no comment.

htismaqe
07-31-2005, 10:48 AM
So Carl had to pay him more than the 13th Pick... Do you think DJ's Agent has this info and would use it against Carl to get this done with incentives as well..

REP for the info, I tried googling it with no results...

This year's slotting would put DJ at about $10.4M over 5 years. Michael Clayton's deal last year was 6 years, $13M or roughly $10.8M if it were a 5-year deal.

There's no way Peterson is asking DJ to take less than the slotting. My bet is that DJ is asking to be paid like a top-10 player.

htismaqe
07-31-2005, 10:49 AM
Peterson said the Chiefs' contract offer to Tait is based on the contract recently signed by the player selected in front of him, Pittsburgh wide receiver Troy Edwards.

Edwards signed a five-year deal worth a total of about $6 million and received a signing bonus of about $4 million.

"We have him an offer that we thought was very, very fair," Peterson said. "It shouldn't be that difficult. I don't know why it is."

Tait's agent, Ethan Lock, said he had no comment.

Exactly.

The contention with the Tait deal was Carl's DEMEANOR...there's absolutely no evidence that Carl low-balled him. The discussions got heated and Carl cussed at a Mormon. THAT is the story there.

Mr. Laz
07-31-2005, 10:50 AM
Really?

Can you please post some examples of times when the slotting was set and Carl asked a player to take LESS money...
so what they heck does slotting have to do with it?

this is about the general trend of the chiefs having difficulty getting their 1st round draft picks signed and how carl peterson is the common denominator.

a dozen different players
a dozen different agents
a couple different player personnel guys(working of the chiefs)
3 different coaches
1 general manager
1 owner

consistent issues with getting 1st round draft picks into camp


make up all the BS deflection stuff you want ... but CARL IS THE COMMON thread.

carlos3652
07-31-2005, 10:50 AM
This year's slotting would put DJ at about $10.4M over 5 years. Michael Clayton's deal last year was 6 years, $13M or roughly $10.8M if it were a 5-year deal.

There's no way Peterson is asking DJ to take less than the slotting. My bet is that DJ is asking to be paid like a top-10 player.

Exactly : Post #57

I think that the Market is set, Carl is ready to give the price of #14 or close to it, but the Agent knows that Carl loses if DJ is not in camp on time... He probably wants to get paid as a Top 10

5 year deal, $12/13 million instead of $10.4 just because DJ slipped on Draft Day doesnt mean he was not one of the TOP 10 players in the NCAA last year.

Watch him be in Camp next week @ 5 years 11.25 - $8 SB...

Bowser
07-31-2005, 10:51 AM
This year's slotting would put DJ at about $10.4M over 5 years. Michael Clayton's deal last year was 6 years, $13M or roughly $10.8M if it were a 5-year deal.

There's no way Peterson is asking DJ to take less than the slotting. My bet is that DJ is asking to be paid like a top-10 player.

That's believable. Maybe McElroy is using the "If Matt Millen wasn't a complete rockheaded asshat, my guy would have gone #10. So, we think he should be paid as if he were drafted in the ten spot" ploy.

Usually works every time, sometimes.

Mr. Laz
07-31-2005, 10:52 AM
That's believable. Maybe McElroy is using the "If Matt Millen wasn't a complete rockheaded asshat, my guy would have gone #10
we don't know this

carlos3652
07-31-2005, 10:54 AM
That's believable. Maybe McElroy is using the "If Matt Millen wasn't a complete rockheaded asshat, my guy would have gone #10. So, we think he should be paid as if he were drafted in the ten spot" ploy.

Usually works every time, sometimes.

"It looks like they are going to forfeit..."

"Its a bold strategy... lets see if it pays off..."

htismaqe
07-31-2005, 10:55 AM
so what they heck does slotting have to do with it?

this is about the general trend of the chiefs having difficulty getting their 1st round draft picks signed and how carl peterson is the common denominator.

a dozen different players
a dozen different agents
a couple different player personnel guys(working of the chiefs)
3 different coaches
1 general manager
1 owner

consistent issues with getting 1st round draft picks into camp


make up all the BS deflection stuff you want ... but CARL IS THE COMMON thread.

BS deflection? It's all fact, WITH links. Sorry you can't refute it to your liking.

Carl has had problems signing first round picks, that much is true. Do you know, definitively, why? Do you know for a FACT that it's because he doesn't offer them contracts commensurate with their slotting?

Exactly.

See, you are so blinded by your hatred of Carl that you can't discern between someone stating facts and someone defending Carl.

I'm not defending Carl, but blaming one person, when there are TWO people involved is deliberately ignoring half of the equation.

htismaqe
07-31-2005, 10:55 AM
we don't know this

Nor do we know that Carl is lowballing him.

Bowser
07-31-2005, 10:59 AM
we don't know this

Yeah, but it would have made a whole hell of a lot more sense than Mike Williams. Put DJ next to Boss Bailey, and you've got yourself 2/3rds of a really good linebacking corp. And Teddy Lehman isn't a sluff, either.

It still blows me away that the Lions took Williams. Not that having Roy Williams, Charles Rogers, and Mike Williams is a bad thing, but you still have some needs on defense that outweigh receiver (not to mention that they brought in Kevin Johnson, and that Joey Harrington is still the QB).

Either Millen and Mooch had already made their minds up about Mike Williams, or the Lions scouts could sell a dead man a used car. Maybe a little of both.

KChiefs1
07-31-2005, 11:04 AM
Anyone want to wager on who they believe will be the last first rounder signed?

My $$$$$ is on Merriman.

Mr. Laz
07-31-2005, 11:04 AM
Nor do we know that Carl is lowballing him.

your correct we don't

Bowser
07-31-2005, 11:07 AM
Anyone want to wager on who they believe will be the last first rounder signed?

My $$$$$ is on Merriman.

No bet here.

nascher
07-31-2005, 11:08 AM
you don't get more money automatically if you sign later or as last pick most times these players get less money.

Bowser
07-31-2005, 11:09 AM
you don't get more money automatically if you sign later or as last pick most times these players get less money.

Tell that to the Poston brothers.

Mr. Laz
07-31-2005, 11:12 AM
BS deflection? It's all fact, WITH links. Sorry you can't refute it to your liking.

Carl has had problems signing first round picks, that much is true. Do you know, definitively, why? Do you know for a FACT that it's because he doesn't offer them contracts commensurate with their slotting?

Exactly.

See, you are so blinded by your hatred of Carl that you can't discern between someone stating facts and someone defending Carl.

I'm not defending Carl, but blaming one person, when there are TWO people involved is deliberately ignoring half of the equation.
once again your trying to make this some kind of personal flaw of mine instead of dealing with the issue.


fact: "Carl has had problems signing first round picks, that much is true."


nothing much beyond this fact matters ... you can search for slottings about this and agents about that all you want.

doesn't matter ... it's carls job to sign the players and he's had a problem with that.

is this history of problems being USED by current agent as leverage in negotiations??? maybe ... but that's still an issue with CARL.

He should of never started his STFD and STFU tough guy crap and he wouldn't be in this position.

this PR bull that carl puts out there EVERY SINGLE TIME he talks of getting draft pick signed is bull.

"........ it's up to the player to get into camp... my hands are tied..."

blah,blah,blah

it's a 2 way negotiation and carl has had trouble negotiating with virtually everyone for as long as i can remember.

htismaqe
07-31-2005, 11:18 AM
once again your trying to make this some kind of personal flaw of mine instead of dealing with the issue.


fact: "Carl has had problems signing first round picks, that much is true."


nothing much beyond this fact matters ... you can search for slottings about this and agents about that all you want.

doesn't matter ... it's carls job to sign the players and he's had a problem with that.

is this history of problems being USED by current agent as leverage in negotiations??? maybe ... but that's still an issue with CARL.

He should of never started his STFD and STFU tough guy crap and he wouldn't be in this position.

this PR bull that carl puts out there EVERY SINGLE TIME he talks of getting draft pick signed is bull.

"........ it's up to the player to get into camp... my hands are tied..."

blah,blah,blah

it's a 2 way negotiation and carl has had trouble negotiating with virtually everyone for as long as i can remember.

The tough SOB negotiator shit is definitely a problem. But laying the blame SOLELY on Carl is what I have an issue with.

Roughly HALF of all 1st-round picks, EVERY YEAR, hold out. Is that Carl's fault too? Or is it a problem that's inherent to the league and it's rookie salary structure, and just happens to be a problem Carl can't deal with effectively?

Like I said, I'm not defending Carl Peterson. Derrick Johnson is not signed.

But for every "Dammit Carl!" there should be a matching "Dammit DJ!" Last time I checked, he ALSO said he didn't want to miss camp, but yet he is. Tells me he cares more about money than being true to his word.

Mr. Laz
07-31-2005, 11:29 AM
The tough SOB negotiator shit is definitely a problem. But laying the blame SOLELY on Carl is what I have an issue with.

Roughly HALF of all 1st-round picks, EVERY YEAR, hold out. Is that Carl's fault too? Or is it a problem that's inherent to the league and it's rookie salary structure, and just happens to be a problem Carl can't deal with effectively?

Like I said, I'm not defending Carl Peterson. Derrick Johnson is not signed.
i've never said it was all carl's fault


but i insist that carl shares the responsibility


i realize that every year several draft picks are late but that's where carl's history comes to play again.

what... like 3 times in carl's tenure in kansas city has the 1st round pick signed on time.

That's a terrible % even considering it's a difficult task to start with.

KCFalcon59
07-31-2005, 11:49 AM
Right now I think it is all on DJ. He knows what they got ahead of him and behind him. His money is going to be somewhere in between. The guy is gonna be rich beyond his dreams. He has to come to a decision. Carl is only going to move those same dollars around. I doubt he ups his ante.

Mr. Laz
07-31-2005, 12:01 PM
Right now I think it is all on DJ.

see ... this is why i speak up

KCFalcon59
07-31-2005, 12:24 PM
see ... this is why i speak up

It's nothing against DJ. I know Carl is a prick, but why should he break the bank when his spot is pretty much dictated. He is going to be rich whatever the dollar figures are. He is going to get between 10.2 and 10.6. It's not that much of a difference.

Mr. Laz
07-31-2005, 01:03 PM
It's nothing against DJ. I know Carl is a prick, but why should he break the bank when his spot is pretty much dictated. He is going to be rich whatever the dollar figures are. He is going to get between 10.2 and 10.6. It's not that much of a difference.

oh i know... didn't even think you meant it personal towards DJ


but we still don't know whether it carl or DJ or the agent ... or a mixture of all 3.

maybe DJ wants more than his slotting

maybe the agent is trying to make a name for himself

maybe carl is giving the slotted amount but is skimping on the signing bonus.

:shrug:


we don't know ... but we do know that carl has a history, so he's earned the skepticism.

Mile High Mania
07-31-2005, 01:06 PM
The overall money and term of the contract probably aren't what's holding things up. It's likely the size of the bonus, future incentives or particular clauses related to those types of numbers...

The only good thing about Denver not having a R1 pick (aside from getting Washington's top 2006 pick) is that they had all their players signed an in camp by day 1 of camps.

Mr. Flopnuts
07-31-2005, 01:08 PM
I think it would be a good idea for Carl to give him the top end in the slot because he did slip down quite a bit. Hell I'd even say give him just under what 14 got. However I don't think you move out of that, if he wants to be a greedy bitch, let him sit out and flip burgers till the draft next year if that's what it takes. If he misses too much training camp offer him the same amount of money as the 26th person drafted. Tie his hands. I have wanted this guy on our squad since day one, but if he's gonna be a greedy, lying little b*tch, f*ck him. He can lick my baows. Aaron Rodgers signed with Green Bay if I read that correctly. Talk about a guy that got f*ckin hosed on money, he was expected to be a top 3 or 5 draft pick. I'm firmly on Carls side with this one, and please don't ever expect it to happen again.

Chiefnj
07-31-2005, 01:36 PM
Anyone want to wager on who they believe will be the last first rounder signed?

My $$$$$ is on Merriman.

It could be Pac Man this year. The Titans are usually excellent signing guys, but since Jones got arrested a few times in the offseason they want certain clauses on payback provisions if he's arrested again, is suspended, etc.

craneref
07-31-2005, 01:38 PM
My guess is that now that there is signings on both sides of DJ, we will see him signed VERY SOON, maybe even in Rvier Falls by tomorrow (monday). It will probably be just below the pick in front of him, but I believe it will be done ASAP now that the parameters are there. Can't wait to get him in camp, so he can prepare to make Pete Prisco and the other "SO CALLED" experts eat their words on him not being a good pick. GO CHIEFS

htismaqe
07-31-2005, 03:46 PM
I think it would be a good idea for Carl to give him the top end in the slot because he did slip down quite a bit. Hell I'd even say give him just under what 14 got. However I don't think you move out of that, if he wants to be a greedy bitch, let him sit out and flip burgers till the draft next year if that's what it takes. If he misses too much training camp offer him the same amount of money as the 26th person drafted. Tie his hands. I have wanted this guy on our squad since day one, but if he's gonna be a greedy, lying little b*tch, f*ck him. He can lick my baows. Aaron Rodgers signed with Green Bay if I read that correctly. Talk about a guy that got f*ckin hosed on money, he was expected to be a top 3 or 5 draft pick. I'm firmly on Carls side with this one, and please don't ever expect it to happen again.

Carl COULD step outside the slotting and just give DJ whatever he wants. But that's a dangerous precedent to set, and one that is guaranteed to piss off more than 2 dozen other teams...

Bill Lundberg
07-31-2005, 03:55 PM
Vikings | Williamson Agrees to Terms
Sun, 31 Jul 2005 14:47:14 -0700

Judd Zulgad, of the Minneapolis Star Tribune, reports the Minnesota Vikings and first-round draft pick WR Troy Williamson have agreed to the terms of a five-year contract. No financial terms were disclosed.

ChiTown
07-31-2005, 04:33 PM
I won't start getting pissed unless he doesn't get signed by the end of the week.

We need this kid in camp. They took him at 15 b/c they knew he could be an impact player this year. I pray this doesn't get screwed up by CP and a former Raydah

KChiefs1
07-31-2005, 05:02 PM
Fox-TV 4 just reported that they've learned that the Chiefs & Vann McElroy are very close and DJ should be signed within the next 24-36 hours. He should be in camp no later than Tuesday.

jiveturkey
07-31-2005, 05:43 PM
You can go ahead and add Derrick Johnson to the list. :clap:

tk13
08-01-2005, 01:44 AM
According to the Star, DJ's deal is for 5 years, $10.5 million dollars.

the Talking Can
08-01-2005, 07:28 AM
I hope Merriman holds out for the whole camp.

jiveturkey
08-01-2005, 07:31 AM
According to the Star, DJ's deal is for 5 years, $10.5 million dollars.We over paid. It should have been 5 years, $10.35 million. :p

Lzen
08-01-2005, 08:03 AM
once again your trying to make this some kind of personal flaw of mine instead of dealing with the issue.


fact: "Carl has had problems signing first round picks, that much is true."


nothing much beyond this fact matters ... you can search for slottings about this and agents about that all you want.

doesn't matter ... it's carls job to sign the players and he's had a problem with that.

is this history of problems being USED by current agent as leverage in negotiations??? maybe ... but that's still an issue with CARL.

He should of never started his STFD and STFU tough guy crap and he wouldn't be in this position.

this PR bull that carl puts out there EVERY SINGLE TIME he talks of getting draft pick signed is bull.

"........ it's up to the player to get into camp... my hands are tied..."

blah,blah,blah

it's a 2 way negotiation and carl has had trouble negotiating with virtually everyone for as long as i can remember.


My only problem with this argument (and I know a lot of people like to use it) is that I don't know how Carl compares to the rest of the league in this area. I mean, if we took a look at the 2-3 teams above and below the Chiefs' pick for every draft over Car'ls tenure, would their picks average being in camp earlier than the Chiefs? Or would the Chiefs fall in the scope of things as just average?

This also falls back to what Parker said about the NFL's rookie salaries and how the system is flawed. I would love for the NFL to adopt a rookie salary structure like the NBA so that all rookies would be in camp on time every year.

KCTitus
08-01-2005, 08:41 AM
It's too bad that DJ has now signed thus taking all the steam out of this thread. It's pretty bad when 17 GM's couldnt get their pick done ahead of Carl.

Chiefnj
08-01-2005, 09:11 AM
The good thing about Johnson's contract is that there are no voidables. He's a Chief for 5 years if KC wants him.

ct
08-01-2005, 10:01 AM
It could be Pac Man this year. The Titans are usually excellent signing guys, but since Jones got arrested a few times in the offseason they want certain clauses on payback provisions if he's arrested again, is suspended, etc.

That's where I'd put my $ as well.

Mr. Laz
08-01-2005, 11:38 AM
My only problem with this argument (and I know a lot of people like to use it) is that I don't know how Carl compares to the rest of the league in this area.

it's been compared before ...

they added up all the signed picks over the year and showed that the chiefs were one of the worst.

KCTitus
08-01-2005, 11:43 AM
it's been compared before ...

they added up all the signed picks over the year and showed that the chiefs were one of the worst.

Surely, Laz, of all people, would have a copy of this info or a link...

Mr. Laz
08-01-2005, 11:47 AM
Report: Lions agree to terms first round pick Mike Williams
John Clayton of ESPN reports the Detroit Lions have agreed to a deal with their first round pick wide receiver Mike Williams of USC.

Advertisment


The terms of the contract are five years at $13.5 million, $10.5 million guaranteed.


Williams had 1,314 receiving yards and 16 touchdowns as a softmore in 2003. He was out of football in 2004 because he hired an agent when Maurice Clarett was ruled eligible for the draft. The ruling was later overturned and Williams was denied a request by the NCAA for eligibility for 2004

Lzen
08-01-2005, 12:33 PM
it's been compared before ...

they added up all the signed picks over the year and showed that the chiefs were one of the worst.

I don't recall this but ok, if you say so. Do you happen to have an idea where I could find this info?

philfree
08-01-2005, 02:23 PM
On the "what have you done for me lately: scale Carl has delivered his picks the last 3 years so to bag on him now is pretty silly.


PhilFree:arrow:

philfree
08-01-2005, 02:31 PM
DJ got into the upper end of the slotting but he couldn't break the slotting because the players around him had pretty much determined what the #15 would get. Looking at how the slotting works I'm gonna say that when a particular player signs is affected by not only his slot and his agent but the players and agents in the slots around him. If your darft pick is sandwiched in two of the Poston's players there's prolly a good chance your player will not sign anytime soon.

PhilFree:arrow:

beer bacon
08-01-2005, 03:14 PM
Chargers' No 1 guaranteed 5-year, $11.33 million





Merriman's holdout to end
By Kevin Acee
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

1:40 p.m. August 1, 2005



Union-Tribune file photo
San Diego Chargers first-round draft pick Shawne Merriman, seen during a news conference at the Chargers' facility in April, will be practicing with the team by Tuesday.
Shawne Merriman is a Charger – sooner than most people thought he would be.
The Chargers have come to terms with their first pick, guaranteeing the rookie linebacker from Maryland $9 million as part of a five-year, $11.33 million contract.

"I'm kind of speechless right now," Merriman said today when reached by phone in Maryland, where he awaited word on his flight plans to San Diego. "I really didn't believe it was going to get done this soon. I'm more anxious to get out there than I have ever been."

Merriman and the Chargers got off on the wrong foot in May when the player's agent, Kevin Poston, had his client skip offseason workouts due to concerns about Merriman injuring himself before signing a contract.

"I enjoyed working with (Chargers negotiator) Ed McGuire and the San Diego Chargers," Poston said Monday. "They did a very professional job making sure this got done in a timely manner."

Merriman, expected in town tonight, has missed the first week of training camp.

=================================

That was a lot earlier then I expected.

Mr. Laz
08-01-2005, 05:37 PM
I don't recall this but ok, if you say so. Do you happen to have an idea where I could find this info?

no... i didn't do it, somebody around here did


it wasn't from a website, they went through and added them up

Mr. Laz
08-01-2005, 05:41 PM
Chargers' No 1 guaranteed 5-year, $11.33 million
Merriman's holdout to end
By Kevin Acee
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

.Merriman agrees to deal with Chargers
SAN DIEGO - Outside linebacker Shawne Merriman, the 12th pick in the NFL draft, agreed to a five-year deal with the San Diego Chargers on Monday after he missed the first week of training camp.

Advertisment


Merriman caused a stir when he stayed away from all offseason workouts on the advice of his agent, Kevin Poston, because of concerns he'd get hurt before he got a contract.


While many observers expected protracted negotiations, both sides said talks went well.


"It was always professional, always cordial," Poston said. "We were able to get it done at Shawne's fair-market value."


In a statement, general manager A.J. Smith said the Chargers were "excited to get Shawne here and integrated into our defense as quickly as possible. "The negotiations with Kevin Poston were cordial, professional and it was pleasure doing business with him."


By missing offseason workouts, the Chargers felt Merriman, a former star at Maryland, would fall behind in learning the team's 3-4 defense.


Poston thinks Merriman will be OK.


"The first preseason game has not taken place. He'll be fine," Poston said. "All rookies have to catch up, even those who are in on time."


Merriman has been working out in Maryland.


Merriman's contract is potentially worth $15.73 million, of which $9 million is guaranteed. The deal was structured so he'll get an early roster bonus of $1,244,000 rather than a signing bonus. He'll get an option bonus of $6.35 million, payable over the second, third and fourth years of the deal.


With Merriman's deal done, the Chargers' only unsigned player is All-Pro tight end Antonio Gates, who is seeking a long-term deal averaging between $4 million and $5 million a year. As an exclusive-rights free agent, Gates was tendered a one-year contract for $380,000, but he has not signed that deal.

Mr. Laz
08-01-2005, 05:42 PM
Rodgers is in: No. 1 pick signs

Training Camp 2005

By Dylan B. Tomlinson
PackersNews.com

The Green Bay Packers have signed quarterback Aaron Rodgers, their first-round draft pick, General Manager Ted Thompson announced Saturday night.

After signing the contract Saturday night, Rodgers immediately headed to St. Norbert College in De Pere to join the rest of the Packers. He will practice for the first time this morning.

Before Rodgers had signed, Packers coach Mike Sherman said he wasn’t overly concerned about the four days of practice that Rodgers had missed.

“Everything we’ve done so far he did in the minicamps,” Sherman said. “The opportunity to go back and do it again, he’s missed that, but he’s a bright kid. When he gets here, we’ll get him working around the clock and we’ll get him ready to go.”

Rodgers is the last of the Packers’ 11 draft picks to sign. While terms of Rodgers’ contract are unknown, it is expected to be similar to the five-year deal that Buffalo quarterback J.P. Losman signed last year. Losman’s deal, with incentives and escalator clauses, could be worth as much as $24.58 million.

Since Rodgers isn’t expected to start until Brett Favre retires, negotiations with Rodgers’ agent, Mike Sullivan, were especially difficult. The contract is expected to include an escalator clause that will trigger when and if Rodgers becomes the starter.

“Obviously, this is a very difficult contract,” Sherman said. “This is a contract that is (geared) toward the future.”

When he reports to camp today, Rodgers will have to share reps with Favre as well as backups Craig Nall and J.T. O’Sullivan. Favre has been participating in only one practice per day, so that may increase Rodgers’ chance to get plenty of reps.

The Packers took Rodgers with the No. 24 pick in April’s draft. At one point, he was expected to be taken with the No. 1 overall pick but unexpectedly fell to the Packers toward the end of the first round.

Dylan B. Tomlinson writes for The Post-Crescent of Appleton.

alanm
08-01-2005, 09:02 PM
I wonder if the Titans are going to sign Pac Man to the rookie minimum with tons of incentives. Especially CONDUCT incentives which includes no posse hanger oners. ROFL ROFL ROFL

alanm
08-01-2005, 09:11 PM
Anyone want to wager on who they believe will be the last first rounder signed?

My $$$$$ is on Merriman.
Pac Man Bank on it. :thumb:

Rausch
08-02-2005, 12:40 AM
Pac Man Bank on it. :thumb:

A good guess...

beer bacon
08-02-2005, 12:44 AM
Redskins | Campbell Officially Agrees to Terms
Mon, 1 Aug 2005 22:38:13 -0700

Updating previous reports, Redskins.com reports the Washington Redskins have agreed to terms with rookie QB Jason Campbell on an undisclosed contract. The contract will be official on Tuesday morning, August 2. Campbell is expected to be at Redskins Park and on the field for the team's second day of training camp practices.

Jaguars | More about M. Jones Deal
Mon, 1 Aug 2005 22:35:06 -0700

Vito Stellino, of the Florida Times-Union, reports Jacksonville Jaguars rookie WR Matt Jones, the team's first-round draft pick, has agreed in principle to a five-year deal that with escalators, can be valued around $11 million. He'll make $6.3 million the first year of the contact. Jones is expected to sign the contract Tuesday morning, August 2, after him and one of his agents, Dave Butz, review the contract.

royr17
08-02-2005, 04:56 AM
And Mike Williams of the Detroit Lions has signed too.

KChiefs1
08-02-2005, 06:42 AM
Pac Man Bank on it. :thumb:

That'd be my guess now.

Herzig
08-02-2005, 07:48 AM
8 Cardinals Antrel Rolle DB Miami (FL) Unsigned
9 Redskins Carlos Rogers DB Auburn Unsigned

ROFL Two guys everyone here was wanting...Would you want theses guys now instead of DJ? I was one of them before the Surtain trade happened. Then, I wanted Thomas Jones or Derrick Johnson. Getting Surtain worked out great, as I would rather have him over many people including Ty Law. I think DJ is already the steal of the draft.

mnchiefsguy
08-02-2005, 08:38 AM
Here is some news from the great cold north...the Vikes have signed the #7 pick Troy Williamson.

From vikings.com:

The Minnesota Vikings have agreed to terms with 1st-round pick (7th overall selection) WR Troy Williamson. Terms of the deal were not disclosed.

Williamson is the highest-drafted WR in franchise history. He becomes the sixth of the Vikings' seven draft picks from the 2005 NFL Draft to come to terms with the team.

"I wanted to to thank the Minnesota Vikings coaches, staff, and teammates for their patience during my contract negotiations," Williamson said. "I specifically wanted to point out Rob Brzezinski, Dave Blando, the Wilf family, and my agent for resolving my contract as quickly as possible. I am extremely excited about joining my teammates in Mankato and working hard to help bring the Super Bowl trophy to Minnesota."


http://vikings.com/news_detail_OBJECTNAME_WilliamsonQuote8105.html

Lzen
08-02-2005, 08:47 AM
I guessed that Rolle would be the last to sign. But that may not happen now that the guy slotted before him (Williamson) has signed.

Mr. Laz
08-02-2005, 06:26 PM
Report: Redskins agree to deal with CB Rogers
Len Pasquarelli of ESPN reports cornerback Carlos Rogers, the ninth overall pick in the 2005 NFL draft has agreed to a 5 year contract with the Redskins.

Advertisment


Rogers deal is worth $17.45 million, which includes $11.23 million in bonuses.


In his senior year at Auburn he had 47 tackles, 2 interceptions and broke up 8 passes. He was also a four year starter.


Rogers will be limited as he is suffering from an ankle sprain and bone bruise

HemiEd
08-02-2005, 10:22 PM
The guy I picked to be last is still un-signed. :D 4 Bears Cedric Benson RB Texas

Logical
08-02-2005, 10:41 PM
Jaguars Matt Jones QB Arkansas 5 years, ~$11 million

If this is right he busted the slotting system and he is planned to play at WR instead of QB, sort of weird.

nascher
08-04-2005, 06:10 AM
Spencer C Seattle is signed too.

ct
08-04-2005, 07:31 AM
anybody still updating the topic starter?

Williamson(7), Rogers(9), Spencer(26)

Mr. Laz
08-04-2005, 10:10 AM
anybody still updating the topic starter?

Williamson(7), Rogers(9), Spencer(26)
updating a thread has a time limit ... 1440 minutes iirc





mods are the only one who can update it now.

Logical
08-05-2005, 11:30 PM
Maybe this thread no longer needs to be Stuck at the top.

beer bacon
08-06-2005, 02:12 AM
Ravens | Clayton Agrees to Terms
Fri, 5 Aug 2005 23:40:18 -0700

ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports the Baltimore Ravens have agreed to a five-year contract with first-round draft pick WR Mark Clayton. The deal, which will be finalized on Saturday, August 6, is worth $8.2 million and it includes $5.7 million in guarantees.

=====================

It took him long enough.

Mr. Laz
08-06-2005, 01:59 PM
Maybe this thread no longer needs to be Stuck at the top.
or maybe a lazy ass mod could just update the dam thing

ct
08-09-2005, 03:14 PM
PK Team Player Pos School Contract
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 49ers Alex Smith QB Utah 6 years,$49.5 million($24 mill SB)
2 Dolphins Ronnie Brown RB Auburn Unsigned
3 Browns Braylon Edwards WR Michigan Unsigned
4 Bears Cedric Benson RB Texas Unsigned
5 Buccaneers Carnell Williams RB Auburn Signed, terms undisclosed
6 Titans Adam Jones DB West Virginia Unsigned
7 Vikings(frm Raider) Troy Williamson WR S. Carolina Signed - undisclosed
8 Cardinals Antrel Rolle DB Miami (FL) Unsigned
9 Redskins Carlos Rogers DB Auburn 5 year deal
10 Lions Mike Williams WR USC Signed, terms undisclosed
11 Cowboys Demarcus Ware DE Troy 5 year deal, $13 million
12 Chargers(from Giants) Shawne Merriman DE Maryland 5 year deal, $11.33 million
13 Saints(from Texans) Jammal Brown OL Oklahoma 5 year deal, $11 million
14 Panthers Thomas Davis S Georgia 5 year deal, $10.6 million
15 Chiefs Derrick Johnson LB Texas 5 year deal, $10.5 million
16 Texans(from Saints) Travis Johnson NT Florida St 5 year deal, $10.2 million
17 Bengals David Pollack DE Georgia Unsigned
18 Vikings Erasmus James DL Wisconsin 7 year deal, $10 million
19 Rams Alex Barron T Florida State Unsigned
20 Cowboys (from Bills) Marcus Spears DE LSU 5 year deal, $9.35 million
21 Jaguars Matt Jones QB Arkansas 5 years, ~$11 million
22 Ravens Mark Clayton WR Oklahoma 5 year deal
23 Raiders(from hawks)Fabian Washington CB Nebraska Signed, terms undisclosed
24 Packers Aaron Rodgers QB California Signed, terms undisclosed
25 Redskins(from Broncos) Jason Campbell QB Auburn Signed, terms undisclosed
26 Seahawks(from Jets) Chris Spencer C Mississippi Signed, terms undisclosed
27 Falcons Roddy White WR UAB 5 years, undisclosed
28 Chargers Luis Castillo DT Northwestern 5 years, $7.035 million
29 Colts Marlin Jackson CB Michigan 5 years, $6.975 million
30 Steelers Heath Miller TE Virginia 5 years, $6.89 million
31 Eagles Mike Patterson DT USC 5 years, $6.60 million
32 Patriots Logan Mankins T Fresno State 5 years, $6.40 million
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

latest update...

Vikings, first-rounder James reach contract agreement
MANKATO, Minn. - The Minnesota Vikings reached a contract agreement Monday with holdout rookie defensive end Erasmus James, a first-round draft pick from Wisconsin.

James was on his way to Minnesota on Monday evening. The 18th overall selection, James was expected to be on the field for practice Tuesday after missing the first 10 days of training camp.

"He's excited, and he's ready to go," said Vance Malinovic, one of James' agents.

James will receive a five-year package, Malinovic said, declining to reveal specific financial terms. The two sides were working hard to finalize particulars of the deal Monday night so James could participate in Tuesday's practice.

SNR
08-09-2005, 03:15 PM
I hope the Viqueens roll over and eat a cock

ct
08-10-2005, 11:25 AM
PK Team Player Pos School Contract
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 49ers Alex Smith QB Utah 6 years,$49.5 million($24 mill SB)
2 Dolphins Ronnie Brown RB Auburn Unsigned
3 Browns Braylon Edwards WR Michigan Unsigned
4 Bears Cedric Benson RB Texas Unsigned
5 Buccaneers Carnell Williams RB Auburn Signed, terms undisclosed
6 Titans Adam Jones DB West Virginia Unsigned
7 Vikings(frm Raider) Troy Williamson WR S. Carolina Signed - undisclosed [/b]
8 Cardinals Antrel Rolle DB Miami (FL) 6 year deal
9 Redskins Carlos Rogers DB Auburn 5 year deal
10 Lions Mike Williams WR USC Signed, terms undisclosed
11 Cowboys Demarcus Ware DE Troy 5 year deal, $13 million
12 Chargers(from Giants) Shawne Merriman DE Maryland 5 year deal, $11.33 million
13 Saints(from Texans) Jammal Brown OL Oklahoma 5 year deal, $11 million
14 Panthers Thomas Davis S Georgia 5 year deal, $10.6 million
15 Chiefs Derrick Johnson LB Texas 5 year deal, $10.5 million
16 Texans(from Saints) Travis Johnson NT Florida St 5 year deal, $10.2 million
17 Bengals David Pollack DE Georgia Unsigned
18 Vikings Erasmus James DL Wisconsin 7 year deal, $10 million
19 Rams Alex Barron T Florida State Unsigned
20 Cowboys (from Bills) Marcus Spears DE LSU 5 year deal, $9.35 million
21 Jaguars Matt Jones QB Arkansas 5 years, ~$11 million
22 Ravens Mark Clayton WR Oklahoma 5 year deal
23 Raiders(from hawks)Fabian Washington CB Nebraska Signed, terms undisclosed
24 Packers Aaron Rodgers QB California Signed, terms undisclosed
25 Redskins(from Broncos) Jason Campbell QB Auburn Signed, terms undisclosed
26 Seahawks(from Jets) Chris Spencer C Mississippi Signed, terms undisclosed
27 Falcons Roddy White WR UAB 5 years, undisclosed
28 Chargers Luis Castillo DT Northwestern 5 years, $7.035 million
29 Colts Marlin Jackson CB Michigan 5 years, $6.975 million
30 Steelers Heath Miller TE Virginia 5 years, $6.89 million
31 Eagles Mike Patterson DT USC 5 years, $6.60 million
32 Patriots Logan Mankins T Fresno State 5 years, $6.40 million
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Reports say the Browns and Edwards are getting close. And this just in, PacMan is still a punk!

ct
08-11-2005, 07:37 AM
PK Team Player Pos School Contract
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 49ers Alex Smith QB Utah 6 years,$49.5 million($24 mill SB)
2 Dolphins Ronnie Brown RB Auburn Unsigned
3 Browns Braylon Edwards WR Michigan Agreement in principle, no official signing...5 years, reportedly $40 Million
4 Bears Cedric Benson RB Texas Unsigned
5 Buccaneers Carnell Williams RB Auburn Signed, terms undisclosed
6 Titans Adam Jones DB West Virginia Unsigned
7 Vikings(frm Raider) Troy Williamson WR S. Carolina Signed - undisclosed
8 Cardinals Antrel Rolle DB Miami (FL) 6 year deal
9 Redskins Carlos Rogers DB Auburn 5 year deal
10 Lions Mike Williams WR USC Signed, terms undisclosed
11 Cowboys Demarcus Ware DE Troy 5 year deal, $13 million
12 Chargers(from Giants) Shawne Merriman DE Maryland 5 year deal, $11.33 million
13 Saints(from Texans) Jammal Brown OL Oklahoma 5 year deal, $11 million
14 Panthers Thomas Davis S Georgia 5 year deal, $10.6 million
15 Chiefs Derrick Johnson LB Texas 5 year deal, $10.5 million
16 Texans(from Saints) Travis Johnson NT Florida St 5 year deal, $10.2 million
17 Bengals David Pollack DE Georgia Unsigned
18 Vikings Erasmus James DL Wisconsin 7 year deal, $10 million
19 Rams Alex Barron T Florida State Agrees to terms
20 Cowboys (from Bills) Marcus Spears DE LSU 5 year deal, $9.35 million
21 Jaguars Matt Jones QB Arkansas 5 years, ~$11 million
22 Ravens Mark Clayton WR Oklahoma 5 year deal
23 Raiders(from hawks)Fabian Washington CB Nebraska Signed, terms undisclosed
24 Packers Aaron Rodgers QB California Signed, terms undisclosed
25 Redskins(from Broncos) Jason Campbell QB Auburn Signed, terms undisclosed
26 Seahawks(from Jets) Chris Spencer C Mississippi Signed, terms undisclosed
27 Falcons Roddy White WR UAB 5 years, undisclosed
28 Chargers Luis Castillo DT Northwestern 5 years, $7.035 million
29 Colts Marlin Jackson CB Michigan 5 years, $6.975 million
30 Steelers Heath Miller TE Virginia 5 years, $6.89 million
31 Eagles Mike Patterson DT USC 5 years, $6.60 million
32 Patriots Logan Mankins T Fresno State 5 years, $6.40 million
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Third pick Edwards Signs

ESPNews reports the Cleveland Browns and rookie WR Braylon Edwards have agreed to a five-year deal. While specific financial terms of the deal were not disclosed, ESPNews also reports the deal is believed to pay Edwards $18.5 million in guaranteed money, with the potential to reach $40 million through incentives.

Barron Agrees to Terms

ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports the St. Louis Rams have reached an agreement with first-round draft pick OT Alex Barron on a five-year contract. The financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.

Crush
08-11-2005, 07:41 AM
Edwards only agreed in principle. He then bolted out of the final contract negotiations after hearing something that he didn't like.

ct
08-11-2005, 07:47 AM
Edwards only agreed in principle. He then bolted out of the final contract negotiations after hearing something that he didn't like.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1123752802290461.xml&coll=2

The Browns agreed to terms with No. 1 pick Braylon Edwards just after 11 p.m. Wednesday night, capping a bizarre day of negotiations that saw the receiver come to the Browns facility and then head back to Detroit when talks broke down.

Edwards, the No. 3 overall pick out of Michigan, will return to Cleveland today to sign his contract and practice with the team, a club source said.

Terms were not disclosed, but earlier in the day, ESPN.com reported it was a 5-year deal worth up to $40 million, with $18.5 million in guaranteed money.


...partial story posting only... updated list below to clarify a bit. Thanks Crush!

jiveturkey
08-11-2005, 08:32 AM
Do the Bengals always suck at signing the first round pick?

Chiefnj
08-11-2005, 08:43 AM
Do the Bengals always suck at signing the first round pick?

Pretty much.

Mr. Laz
08-11-2005, 10:23 AM
Rams sign Barron
Associated Press
Posted: 10 hours ago



ST. LOUIS (AP) - St. Louis Rams first-round pick Alex Barron ended a two-week training camp holdout Wednesday and signed a five-year contract.

As a senior at Florida State, Barron was one of three finalists for the Outland Trophy, which recognizes the country's top college offensive lineman. He was taken 19th overall in April by St. Louis.

Coach Mike Martz said he does not expect Barron to be a starter by the beginning of the season. Martz gave Barron the job shortly after the draft, but demoted him to second team after the rookie struggled in a minicamp.

"You don't ever want to box a guy in, but it's going to take him some time no matter how good he is," Martz said. "No way he'll be ready for the opener.

"It's just too bad, but it's done. What's done is done and let's move on."

In recent days, Martz has been critical of Barron's agent, Roosevelt Barnes. Neither Martz nor Barnes answered telephone messages from the AP.

Barron signed only two days before the Rams' preseason opener at home against the Bears. He was listed third on the depth chart at right tackle in the team's game release, behind Grant Williams and Matt Morgan.

Barron was primarily a left tackle in college and is moving to the right side where the Rams used several players last year. Kyle Turley was the starter entering training camp but missed the entire season with a back injury and subsequently was released.

Williams and Blaine Saipaia started at the position last year.

The Rams have signed or agreed to deals with 10 of their 11 draft picks. Only third-round selection Richie Incognito, coming off knee surgery, is unsigned.

Barron is the first offensive lineman taken by the Rams in the first round of the draft since they made tackle Orlando Pace the top overall pick of the 1997 draft.

ct
08-16-2005, 08:27 AM
PK Team Player Pos School Contract
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 49ers Alex Smith QB Utah 6 years,$49.5 million($24 mill SB)
2 Dolphins Ronnie Brown RB Auburn 5 years, $20 million guaranteed
3 Browns Braylon Edwards WR Michigan 5 year deal
4 Bears Cedric Benson RB Texas Unsigned
5 Buccaneers Carnell Williams RB Auburn Signed, terms undisclosed
6 Titans Adam Jones DB West Virginia Agreed in principal
7 Vikings(frm Raider) Troy Williamson WR S. Carolina Signed - undisclosed
8 Cardinals Antrel Rolle DB Miami (FL) 6 year deal
9 Redskins Carlos Rogers DB Auburn 5 year deal
10 Lions Mike Williams WR USC Signed, terms undisclosed
11 Cowboys Demarcus Ware DE Troy 5 year deal, $13 million
12 Chargers(from Giants) Shawne Merriman DE Maryland 5 year deal, $11.33 million
13 Saints(from Texans) Jammal Brown OL Oklahoma 5 year deal, $11 million
14 Panthers Thomas Davis S Georgia 5 year deal, $10.6 million
15 Chiefs Derrick Johnson LB Texas 5 year deal, $10.5 million
16 Texans(from Saints) Travis Johnson NT Florida St 5 year deal, $10.2 million
17 Bengals David Pollack DE Georgia Unsigned
18 Vikings Erasmus James DL Wisconsin 7 year deal, $10 million
19 Rams Alex Barron T Florida State 5 year deal
20 Cowboys (from Bills) Marcus Spears DE LSU 5 year deal, $9.35 million
21 Jaguars Matt Jones QB Arkansas 5 years, ~$11 million
22 Ravens Mark Clayton WR Oklahoma 5 year deal
23 Raiders(from hawks)Fabian Washington CB Nebraska Signed, terms undisclosed
24 Packers Aaron Rodgers QB California Signed, terms undisclosed
25 Redskins(from Broncos) Jason Campbell QB Auburn Signed, terms undisclosed
26 Seahawks(from Jets) Chris Spencer C Mississippi Signed, terms undisclosed
27 Falcons Roddy White WR UAB 5 years, undisclosed
28 Chargers Luis Castillo DT Northwestern 5 years, $7.035 million
29 Colts Marlin Jackson CB Michigan 5 years, $6.975 million
30 Steelers Heath Miller TE Virginia 5 years, $6.89 million
31 Eagles Mike Patterson DT USC 5 years, $6.60 million
32 Patriots Logan Mankins T Fresno State 5 years, $6.40 million
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050816/SPORTS01/508160362/1002/SPORTS

Pacman to sign 5-year deal

Top pick may be ready to start practice today

By JIM WYATT
Staff Writer


The Titans and first-round pick Pacman Jones agreed in principle on a five-year contract last night and the cornerback could be on the practice field as early as today.

...

HemiEd
08-16-2005, 08:31 AM
Ha Ha, I do not think the Bears really care if they sign Cedric Benson.

Mr. Laz
08-16-2005, 10:36 AM
what ... cedric benson and david pollack are the only 2 left now?

HemiEd
08-19-2005, 07:24 AM
The guy I picked to be last is still un-signed. :D 4 Bears Cedric Benson RB Texas


Ding Ding, we have a winner. :D They are still a long way apart, everyone else is signed according to the local paper this morning.