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Fried Meat Ball!
07-30-2005, 01:03 AM
KC can go deeper at receiver
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/12260794.htm


Team has no shortage of candidates at position

By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star


RIVER FALLS, Wis. — The highlight of early training camp for Dick Vermeil came Friday morning when he watched Marc Boerigter and Chris Horn join the Chiefs for practice.

Their return after missing offseason work because of knee injuries gives the Chiefs, at long last, an abundance of healthy and capable wide receivers.

The Chiefs have gone begging for receivers during most of Vermeil’s time as head coach. As recently as last season, they were forced to play undrafted rookie Richard Smith, a move that proved costly because Smith wasn’t ready for NFL competition.

Having seven viable candidates for, at most, six roster spots is tremendous progress to Vermeil. The candidate list swells to eight today when rookie Craphonso Thorpe practices after agreeing to contract terms Friday.

“Everybody would like to have two All-Pros playing at wide receiver,” Vermeil said. “We don’t have two All-Pros, but what we do have is a bunch of good football players, and players with the ability to get better.”

Along with the numbers comes plenty of uncertainty. None of their receivers has been a Pro Bowler, not counting kick-return specialist Dante Hall. Only Eddie Kennison has been a consistently productive pass catcher.

Only Kennison, Hall and Samie Parker are guaranteed to be with the Chiefs when they open the season Sept. 11 against the New York Jets at Arrowhead Stadium. They even hope to reduce Hall’s snaps to keep him fresh for his special-teams duties.

Boerigter can secure a roster spot with a good camp. So can Freddie Mitchell. Horn is the Chiefs’ best ball catcher, a skill that could make him tough to let go.

Thorpe and Smith could wedge their way into the immediate plans by playing well in camp and preseason.

Although the Chiefs are lacking a superstar wide receiver, they’ve had many seasons when they would have envied this kind of depth.

“This will be the most competitive training camp I’ve ever been through,” Horn said. “Every single guy from top to bottom is talented enough to make the roster and play during the regular season.”

The Chiefs saw this situation developing and were comfortable dumping three-year starter Johnnie Morton. He never was the receiver the Chiefs envisioned, but Morton became dependable enough last season that quarterback Trent Green often went to him on third downs and in other clutch situations.

Developing somebody with that ability is one of the biggest offensive issues of camp.

“Freddie Mitchell was that kind of guy in Philadelphia, from what (Eagles coach) Andy Reid told me,” Vermeil said. “Chris Horn is that kind of guy, too.”

Kennison is one starter, and Parker is first in line to be the other. The speedy Parker tantalized the Chiefs late last season by making several big plays. But he’s only in his second season and is on the small side at 5 feet 11 and 190 pounds, so the Chiefs believe he might not be ready to play a full game.

“I’d like to see him play 35 to 45 plays a game, catch three or four balls a game with one being a big one,” Vermeil said. “We’ll have enough depth that we’ll be able to rotate some guys through to take those other snaps.”

Parker said: “I’m ready for whatever they ask me to do. We’ve got a lot of young receivers who haven’t been in the league for a lot of years. Eddie is the only one who’s been around for a long time. So somebody has to step up and take on more responsibility.”

Mitchell, who got his camp off to a strong start by making several big catches Thursday, is the receiver with the most room for upward mobility on the depth chart. The Eagles made him their top pick in 2001, but he never played like a first-round choice.

Mitchell never became a full-time starter, and his best season was in 2003, when he caught 35 passes. He frequently complained about his low numbers, and the Eagles, tired of the distractions, let him go.

Perhaps sensitive to creating similar problems with his new team, Mitchell issued politically correct answers when asked about playing time with the Chiefs.

“I’m trying to learn the offense and make the team better,” he said. “That’s all I want to do: be a part of a win and not have a game where I’m not part of a win.

“I never have anything to prove. It’s a team game. Every time you’re trying to prove something to somebody outside the team, that’s when things go to (garbage).”

Logical
07-30-2005, 01:28 AM
The speedy Parker tantalized the Chiefs late last season by making several big plays. But he’s only in his second season and is on the small side at 5 feet 11 and 190 pounds, so the Chiefs believe he might not be ready to play a full game.

You know you never hear that Dungy doesn't think Marvin Harrison is going to be able to play a full game, yet he is only 6 ft 175 pounds. I hear this and think it is lame every time. If he does not have the talent to be a full time player fine, but don't give us BS on why he won't be a full time player.

tk13
07-30-2005, 01:32 AM
You know you never hear that Dungy doesn't think Marvin Harrison is going to be able to play a full game, yet he is only 6 ft 175 pounds. I hear this and think it is lame every time. If he does not have the talent to be a full time player fine, but don't give us BS on why he won't be a full time player.
That's a pretty interesting point. I would say that the only difference might be the fact that we're a more physical team than the Colts, they are much more finesse, even in terms of just running the ball and run blocking. Sometimes our strength is just when we get in a groove where we say "f-you" and start knocking people around, the Colts can't really do that.

jspchief
07-30-2005, 05:36 AM
You know you never hear that Dungy doesn't think Marvin Harrison is going to be able to play a full game, yet he is only 6 ft 175 pounds. I hear this and think it is lame every time. If he does not have the talent to be a full time player fine, but don't give us BS on why he won't be a full time player.Even more to the point, why the f*ck did we draft him if we're afraid of him breaking a fingernail?

milkman
07-30-2005, 06:06 PM
That's a pretty interesting point. I would say that the only difference might be the fact that we're a more physical team than the Colts, they are much more finesse, even in terms of just running the ball and run blocking. Sometimes our strength is just when we get in a groove where we say "f-you" and start knocking people around, the Colts can't really do that.

I really doubt that our physical running game has that much of an impact on Samie's game.

Even in a more finesse style like the Colts play, when Edge, or Dominick Rhodes runs the ball, Marvin Harrison is asked to block.

The physical nature of our ground is on the line and at TE.

If Samie can learn proper blocking technique at the WR position, there's no reason he shouldn't be able to play the full game.

Simply stated, Dick is just making excuses.

And it's these kind of talking out of the ass type excuses that make me want to bitch slap his crying ass.

patteeu
07-30-2005, 07:47 PM
If they're going to get Kris Wilson, Dante Hall, Tony Richardson, Jason Dunn and one or two of the other wide receivers (e.g. Mitchell, Boerighter, etc.) all in the game, they need someone to sit down from time to time. Kennison will be in for most of the snaps. Gonzales and either Priest or LJ will be in the game on almost every snap. So that means that they don't need or even want Sammie Parker to play a full game.