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BigChiefFan
08-13-2005, 12:41 PM
Roaf-Still Dominate
Waters-Up and Comer who will be a household name after this year
Weigman-What can I say? The undersized center who delivers time and time again.
Welbourne-Looks like the injury bug is gone-definitely a guard,though.
Sampson-I'm astounded by his play; a 7th rounder who will continue to asend.

Holmes-one of the finest HBs in the league.
Johnson-A starter on most teams.
Richardson- didn't get many touches , but continues to be a dominant blocking FB.
Cruz-chance of being 3rd stringer.

Gonzales-didn't play as well as he could have, but I'm not concerned in the least-he's a perenial Pro Bowler.
Wilson-not even close to the hype at this point, still nice to have depth.

Parker-played solid, but I'm still not sold he's the lock at no.2 at this point.
Smith-Looks like a PS candidate to me.
Horn-I can't believe he started last night. Decent player, but nothing more than a ST player, IMO.
Boerigter-Looked like the Bo of old. He makes the team.
Thorpe-If he continues to play better in the preseason he has a chance of making the team-most likely a PS candidate,though.
Hall-makes the team on ST alone.

DEFENSE

Sims-Pushed the pocket, needs help from DEs.
Dalton-decent player, nothing more.
Browning-how long has he been on the team? A role player at best.
Hicks- if he had a second gear, he could be a good player, but never delivers the sack.
Allen-Major liability in the run game at this point. I hope Carlos Hall is a better run stopper.
Wilkerson-not even close to the hype.
Junior S.-Another second round project down the toilet. Where's the heart?
Sharpe-lucky to be invited to training camp.

Johnson-The real deal. He's got speed and heart. Add that to his skills and this guy could actually live up to the hype. He's got work to do, but he'll improve.
Mitchell-looked better, still isn't a dominate MLBer at this point.
Grigsby-played with alot of heart-needs refinement. Blew a major assignment.
Scanlon-Solid play, nothing spectacular.
Stills- Looked impressive as an OLBer-Nice depth and good special teamer.
Fox-where'd you go? Never even noticed Fox playing.
Fujita-actually looked better. Played with heart and wrapped up his man.

Surtain-bonifide stud. Played with purpose and sure tackling. Great addition.
Bartee-Better safety than corner.
McCleon-still concerned with his play. Looked better than last year ,but that isn't saying much. Nice play in the end zone, but still blown assignments.
Warfield-looked like he should have played with the scrubs. A couple of nice tackles, but no heart.
Knight-nice addition. Good leader, but nothing spectacular.
Wesley-better play, but still looks lost at times.
Woods-My heart goes out to him, but he looks like a has-been. It's sad to watch a player like him give up huge plays, but he does.

Tynes-Made amends on long FG, but pulled a Lin Elliot on kick-off. He better make that his last boneheaded mistake or he will have competition soon.
Colquitt-the real boomer on the team.

Thig Lyfe
08-13-2005, 12:44 PM
Well spake.

Rain Man
08-13-2005, 12:53 PM
Yea, verily.

Chris Meck
08-13-2005, 12:59 PM
dominaNt. asCend.


If'n yer gonna use them fancy words, ya oughta spell 'em right.

Thig Lyfe
08-13-2005, 12:59 PM
dominaNt. asCend.


If'n yer gonna use them fancy words, ya oughta spell 'em right.

"Dominate" is CP-speak.

Simplex3
08-13-2005, 01:06 PM
I hate to say it but it looks like Holmes may have lost that step the TJ has been predicting for the last five years. It may just be that it's everyone's first time banging in pads so I'll keep my fingers crossed. Even if he has he'll still be one of the five best backs in the league, so I don't think it's a huge concern.

The entire group of DTs needs to be called out for being fat and pathetic. The DEs need to keep contain or no amound of upgrade at LB and DB is going to help. Why is it the our DEs can't understand when to go down the line and when to keep outside contain? Does our DL coach suck? I can't imagine ALL these players are busts.

DJ shed a block, chased down Culpepper, hit him high running in the same direction, and knocked his ass to the ground. I can't remember seeing Culpepper go down like that before. DJ is the real deal.

Count Zarth
08-13-2005, 01:07 PM
Lost a step? He averaged 10 yards a carry.

Simplex3
08-13-2005, 01:09 PM
Lost a step? He averaged 10 yards a carry.
And got caught from behind more than once. They had one shot of the huddle and you could see Priest's nachos hanging out under his pads and over his belt.

Simplex3
08-13-2005, 01:11 PM
Emmitt Smith was never fast. Hell, he was never even that good if you ask me. The dude averaged 4 yards past the line before he would be touched, then he would go down and fall forward for a yard netting him a 5 ypc avg. 10 ypc can be explained by the fact that he didn't get hit for that many yards. The concern for me was that when the last guy in front of him was blocked, instead of kicking it up a gear and going to the end zone he was getting caught from behinid.

Count Zarth
08-13-2005, 01:15 PM
I haven't watched the game of course. I'll see tomorrow.

Simplex3
08-13-2005, 01:18 PM
I haven't watched the game of course. I'll see tomorrow.
The OL is still f**king badass. I bet *I* could average 3 or 4 ypc behind them. It's amazing to watch.

Rudy lost the toss
08-13-2005, 01:28 PM
The OL is still f**king badass. I bet *I* could average 3 or 4 ypc behind them. It's amazing to watch.
I'd take that bet.... and when has priest not been caught from behind? I guess he's no Michael Pittman but who is?

Wallcrawler
08-13-2005, 01:29 PM
What I would like to know is why in the hell Todd Collins is our number 2 QB.

This guy is a joke. If Trent Green ever goes down we are in some deep doo-doo. First damned play of the game for him and he just throws it in the dirt over the middle, intentionally grounding the ball, with no defenders really in position to even touch him. He threw several really bad passes and overall looked like he didnt know what the hell he was doing.

Damon Huard looked much better running the offense than Collins did. He had much more poise and presence, delivering accurate throws while taking shots, as well as evading a couple of sacks for positive yardage. He made a few bad throws, but he looked worlds better than Collins did. Collins just looks like a little pansy who doesnt want to get hit, and just flings the ball up there.

Eventually, Collins got a little owie on his wrist and had to come out.

It is my hope that this fool gets hit by a bus on the way to his mailbox sometime prior to the regular season.

Demonpenz
08-13-2005, 01:30 PM
Emmitt Smith was never fast. Hell, he was never even that good if you ask me. The dude averaged 4 yards past the line before he would be touched, then he would go down and fall forward for a yard netting him a 5 ypc avg. 10 ypc can be explained by the fact that he didn't get hit for that many yards. The concern for me was that when the last guy in front of him was blocked, instead of kicking it up a gear and going to the end zone he was getting caught from behinid.


3 superbowls all time yards leader and 800 yards when he was forty behind the cards oline yeah he sucked really chugged the cock alright

Count Zarth
08-13-2005, 01:31 PM
Collins has looked good in previous preseasons, and he did smoke the Donkos in that regular season game last year. :shrug:

the Talking Can
08-13-2005, 01:33 PM
Roaf-Still Dominate
Waters-Up and Comer who will be a household name after this year
Weigman-What can I say? The undersized center who delivers time and time again.
Welbourne-Looks like the injury bug is gone-definitely a guard,though.
Sampson-I'm astounded by his play; a 7th rounder who will continue to asend.

Holmes-one of the finest HBs in the league.
Johnson-A starter on most teams.
Richardson- didn't get many touches , but continues to be a dominant blocking FB.
Cruz-chance of being 3rd stringer.

Gonzales-didn't play as well as he could have, but I'm not concerned in the least-he's a perenial Pro Bowler.
Wilson-not even close to the hype at this point, still nice to have depth.

Parker-played solid, but I'm still not sold he's the lock at no.2 at this point.
Smith-Looks like a PS candidate to me.
Horn-I can't believe he started last night. Decent player, but nothing more than a ST player, IMO.
Boerigter-Looked like the Bo of old. He makes the team.
Thorpe-If he continues to play better in the preseason he has a chance of making the team-most likely a PS candidate,though.
Hall-makes the team on ST alone.

DEFENSE

Sims-Pushed the pocket, needs help from DEs.
Dalton-decent player, nothing more.
Browning-how long has he been on the team? A role player at best.
Hicks- if he had a second gear, he could be a good player, but never delivers the sack.
Allen-Major liability in the run game at this point. I hope Carlos Hall is a better run stopper.
Wilkerson-not even close to the hype.
Junior S.-Another second round project down the toilet. Where's the heart?
Sharpe-lucky to be invited to training camp.

Johnson-The real deal. He's got speed and heart. Add that to his skills and this guy could actually live up to the hype. He's got work to do, but he'll improve.
Mitchell-looked better, still isn't a dominate MLBer at this point.
Grigsby-played with alot of heart-needs refinement. Blew a major assignment.
Scanlon-Solid play, nothing spectacular.
Stills- Looked impressive as an OLBer-Nice depth and good special teamer.
Fox-where'd you go? Never even noticed Fox playing.
Fujita-actually looked better. Played with heart and wrapped up his man.

Surtain-bonifide stud. Played with purpose and sure tackling. Great addition.
Bartee-Better safety than corner.
McCleon-still concerned with his play. Looked better than last year ,but that isn't saying much. Nice play in the end zone, but still blown assignments.
Warfield-looked like he should have played with the scrubs. A couple of nice tackles, but no heart.
Knight-nice addition. Good leader, but nothing spectacular.
Wesley-better play, but still looks lost at times.
Woods-My heart goes out to him, but he looks like a has-been. It's sad to watch a player like him give up huge plays, but he does.

Tynes-Made amends on long FG, but pulled a Lin Elliot on kick-off. He better make that his last boneheaded mistake or he will have competition soon.
Colquitt-the real boomer on the team.

spot on...I think Thorpe will make the squad (may even help us later in the year), and I still need to see more from Parker and Wilson...I'd like to see Bo run with the #1's also...I thought Dalton looked good, our DE's well...we've got issues...Allen has to learn how to contain, he can't go gonzo for a sack every play

Halfcan
08-13-2005, 03:30 PM
Great list Big Chiefs fan- I agree with most. I didn't see Simms pushing the pocket though. It looked like last year-the QB just stepped up as our ends got pushed to the outside and nobody was coming up the middle. DJ looked great for not having a single tackle-maybe the experts are right-he can't tackle-just runs all over the field knocking the shit out of people-that hit on Melbatoast Moore was awesome. I thought thorpe looked great on the route running. Richard Smith is gone. If Tynes boots another kickoff out of bounds he will be gone-DV said it was HS ball doing that.

Emmit sucks-ya right all time rushing leader and td rushing leader-man that sucks.

I hate to say it Preist looked a little slow on the end around and did get caught from behind on a play he should have scored-but he will get that burst back.

BigChiefFan
08-13-2005, 03:31 PM
spot on...I think Thorpe will make the squad (may even help us later in the year), and I still need to see more from Parker and Wilson...I'd like to see Bo run with the #1's also...I thought Dalton looked good, our DE's well...we've got issues...Allen has to learn how to contain, he can't go gonzo for a sack every play
Thanks. It's all in Thorpe's hands, literally, but he could make the team.
he's got good hands and speed, he just needs to refine his route running.

beer bacon
08-13-2005, 03:38 PM
Great list Big Chiefs fan- I agree with most. I didn't see Simms pushing the pocket though. It looked like last year-the QB just stepped up as our ends got pushed to the outside and nobody was coming up the middle. DJ looked great for not having a single tackle-maybe the experts are right-he can't tackle-just runs all over the field knocking the shit out of people-that hit on Melbatoast Moore was awesome. I thought thorpe looked great on the route running. Richard Smith is gone. If Tynes boots another kickoff out of bounds he will be gone-DV said it was HS ball doing that.

Emmit sucks-ya right all time rushing leader and td rushing leader-man that sucks.

I hate to say it Preist looked a little slow on the end around and did get caught from behind on a play he should have scored-but he will get that burst back.

Culpepper rolling out was a direct result of the push up the middle. The problem was that our DEs either were out of position or were too slow to do anything about it.

Also, the NFL.com stats thing is wrong about DJ not having any tackles. He had three. His first was on the pass to Bennett that ended up gaving the Vikings 12 yards. His second was a combined tackle with Fox where they tackled Bennett after he gained two yards on a run, and the third was a tackle on Travis Taylor after he caught a pass for nine yards. DJ had two solo tackles and one combined/assisted tackle.

Simplex3
08-13-2005, 03:39 PM
3 superbowls all time yards leader and 800 yards when he was forty behind the cards oline yeah he sucked really chugged the cock alright
How many times did he make a guy miss? How often did he run through a guy? Emmitt's game was running through huge damn holes created by a dominant OL and running past DBs that were being held by The Coke Machine Irvin. Was he good? Yeah. Was he one of the top 25 backs ever to play? Highly possible. Ask yourself what Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Jim Brown or Earl Campbell would have done on that Cowboy's team that Emmitt was blessed with.

PS: I'm pretty sure Emmitt didn't play in those Super Bowls alone. Oh, and Emmitt carried the ball nearly 600 more times than Payton to get that yardage record.

:)

Simplex3
08-13-2005, 03:41 PM
Emmit sucks-ya right all time rushing leader and td rushing leader-man that sucks.

Man, you guys sure can "reed more gooder", huh? Find the quote where I said he sucks you tool.

:shake:

Count Zarth
08-13-2005, 03:41 PM
How many times did he make a guy miss? How often did he run through a guy?

Countless times. I grew up watching him run the ball.

Simplex3
08-13-2005, 03:44 PM
Countless times. I grew up watching him run the ball.
Guys who were being blocked maybe. Before I had the Sunday Ticket I was subjected to the Cowboys nearly every week. I distinctly remember him falling down as soon as he got hit as often as not. It just so happens that was fours yards past the line.

Count Zarth
08-13-2005, 03:50 PM
Guys who were being blocked maybe. Before I had the Sunday Ticket I was subjected to the Cowboys nearly every week. I distinctly remember him falling down as soon as he got hit as often as not. It just so happens that was fours yards past the line.

That is a complete BS. There are tons of highlights of Emmitt Smith making defenders his biatch. Over and over and over and over. There's a great one where he puts a spin move on like THREE Atlanta Falcons defenders.

Yes, he had a great offensive line. So does Priest.

In fact, Priest reminds me more of Emmitt Smith than any other RB.

Count Zarth
08-13-2005, 03:52 PM
And yes I am a closet Cowboys fan.

beer bacon
08-13-2005, 03:52 PM
This is all well and good, but who gives a shit about Emmitt Smith. Okoye would manhandle Smith in a street brawl.

Simplex3
08-13-2005, 03:54 PM
That is a complete BS. There are tons of highlights of Emmitt Smith making defenders his biatch. Over and over and over and over. There's a great one where he puts a spin move on like THREE Atlanta Falcons defenders.
I can show you "tons" of Icky Woods highlights. What's your point?

Count Zarth
08-13-2005, 03:56 PM
I can show you "tons" of Icky Woods highlights. What's your point?

My point is, you are WRONG. Emmitt Smith was a great running back. He was CERTAINLY not a RB that went down on first contact.

BigRedChief
08-13-2005, 03:59 PM
And yes I am a closet Cowboys fan.
http://www.forumspile.com/Funnay-Youre_Not.jpg

Count Zarth
08-13-2005, 05:08 PM
Emmitt led the league in yards after contact for 5 out of 6 years. Bettis in 94 edged him out.

http://www.jagfire.net/nfl/Emmitt.gif

BigRedChief
08-13-2005, 05:16 PM
Emmitt led the league in yards after contact for 5 out of 6 years. Bettis in 94 edged him out.

http://www.jagfire.net/nfl/Emmitt.gif

I liked Emmitt. Too bad he fuked up his legacy by going to the Cardinals.

Count Zarth
08-13-2005, 05:41 PM
I liked Emmitt. Too bad he fuked up his legacy by going to the Cardinals.

I didn't have a problem with that. If I was an NFL player, I'd have done the same thing. Just to get a taste of the NFL life outside my first team.

milkman
08-13-2005, 09:16 PM
Fox-where'd you go? Never even noticed Fox playing

In defense of Fox, most of the talk about his improved play was while he was working at the LOLB spot, and he was just moved to work at the ROLB spot in the last week or so.

Tribal Warfare
08-13-2005, 09:47 PM
The D-line

Allen- looked lathargic and didn't show the correct fundementals against the rushhing game

Hicks- just averagr

Sims- Improved a little bit, but will he keep it up through the course of the season. The guy seems to truly fade away during mid-season.
Siavii- looked pathetic
Dalton- looked solid
Browning- looked pretty good

LBs
DJ- great athlete, but can't measure him by this game alone. I still believe he'll be a throwback like Jack Ham and Jack Lambert.

Kawika Mitchell- I didn't see much progress he didn't plug many holes, and still looked lost on some plays. The jury is still out on him

Keyaron Fox- looked aweful, and he better watch out . Fujita will throw his ass back to 3rd string again.

Scott Fujita- Looks like he could still start, but won't since their is so much talent at the 1st string OLB corps.

Griffin looks like he could be a solid Special Teams player, but PS guy for now.

Stills- looked like Stills ST specialist.

Boomer- I believe will over take Kawika by mid-season. the kid has instincts, and a vicious head hunting style.

Scanlon- looked pretty solid.

Secondary

Surtain- played like a pro-bowler

McCleon- looked average

Benny Sapp- will talking shit to his cousin the Warren "The Hamburgler " Sapp. He made awesome against Brad Johnson, by hitting him for at the release for an incompletion.

Alphonso Hodge looked pretty solid for a rookie.

Bartee - looked like a natural safety out there.

Wesley looked average at FS
Woods- will be looking in classifieds after the preseason.

Logical
08-13-2005, 10:06 PM
"Dominate" is CP-speak.dom·i·nate is also a good word period, though probably not your intended usage as it is a verb.

beer bacon
08-13-2005, 10:08 PM
Defense:

LBs:

DJ - Looked good one play, and then bad on the next. He was out of position on the Viking's second TD.

Mitchell - Good against the run, but non-existent in the pass defense as far as I can tell. I was impressed when he stuffed Bennett for no gains on two straight plays on the Viking's second drive.

Fox - The only time I really noticed him was when he was out of position. He got sucked inside, and then got stuck in the trash on Moore's long run. Even with Allen missing the tackle Fox should have been there to clean up.

Boomer - Same as Mitchell, pretty good against the run, but bad against the pass. Originally I was down on him until I found out it was him that had the flying stop at the goal line.

Stills - I was actually impressed with him. He put himself in good position to make stops on several plays, and then actually made the plays.

Fujita - Not very impressed. I think several of Fason's runs were to his side.

Scanlon - Not impressed after I found out it was actually Boomer that made the flying stop.

Griffin - I remember thinking he looked good on special teams. I don't remember really noticing him when he was playing LB. I think one time he got out of position on a big run. I remember this because I saw his body type, and thought it said 56 on his jersey instead of 66. I thought it was DJ who was still in the game that late until I got a clear look at his number.

D-line:

I was paying more attention to the LBs after the first team went out so I don't remember quite as much.

Sims - I was impressed with his pass rush. I was kind of disappointed when he had a really rush on Culpepper then fell flat on his face.

Dalton and Browning - I didn't notice anything really amazing with them, but I didn't see them getting pushed around either.

Allen - Didn't really have much a pass rush, and was horrible against the run. He got sucked inside on Moore's long cutback run. Even though he got too far inside, he still had a chance to tackle Moore, but couldn't take him down. I was pretty disappointed with his play.

Hicks - Held his ground against the run and beat his man a few times on passing plays. Even when he beat his man Culpepper could just run circles around him since he was so much faster.

Zach Ville - I remember being impressed with his play.

Clint Mitchell - I remember thinking that he might be a Jared Allen clone: a white DE who doesn't follow his assignments/contain his zone.

Dixon - He got pushed around

Secondary:

Surtain - Only times I really noticed him were when he defensed the pass from Culpepper which led to a punt, and when he came up and made a great form tackle to stop a long gain. If those type of plays are the only times I notice him during the regular season then he should go to the Pro Bowl.

McCleon - He had a great pass defense early in the game. After that he went back to playing five yards off his man at all times.

Sapp - I was impressed with his tackling and the sack, but I was unimpressed with the number one responsibility of a CB: COVERING HIS MAN. I think he was supposed to be covering Burleson when he caught the TD pass.

Wesley - He needs to put himself in better position to help our CBs when they get beat. His job is to minimize the repercussions when our defense messes up, and he didn't really seem to do that. I wasn't really impressed when he finally stopped Moore after his 50 yard gain. He was running with him for a good 15-30 yards before he made the stop. I see the responsibility for plays that should be 10-20 yard gains turning into 40+ gains as the safetie's fault.

Knight - I thought he was good in run support and ok in pass support. It seems like most of the big plays against were made away from him.

Bartee - Looked "ok". His INT was a very nice play where he actually made a very nice read/play on the ball. He missed a tackle in the backfield that turned into a decent gain.

Chiefs Pantalones
08-14-2005, 12:43 AM
And got caught from behind more than once. They had one shot of the huddle and you could see Priest's nachos hanging out under his pads and over his belt.

On the sports tonight, Priest said he's 70% right now. He'll get better as the weeks go by and will be fine at the start of the regular season.

First, Bell says he's 100%, then it turns out he's not. Priest says he's 100%, then he says he's not all the way back yet. WTF?

TRR
08-14-2005, 01:09 AM
On the sports tonight, Priest said he's 70% right now. He'll get better as the weeks go by and will be fine at the start of the regular season.

First, Bell says he's 100%, then it turns out he's not. Priest says he's 100%, then he says he's not all the way back yet. WTF?

Priest said he's at 70% not because he isn't healthy, but because he doesn't have his legs under him yet. He said the same thing at training camp. He's only being asked to practice once a day if that...Priest says he isn't in game shape yet.

Bell has been healthy. He just hasn't went full go yet, and Vermeil is monitoring him as closely as he is monitoring Will Shields. Kendrell Bell may be the single most important player on our defense this season IMHO. He can rush the QB like no other LB we've had in a long time, and he really is a solid run stuffer.

Tribal Warfare
08-14-2005, 01:28 AM
Bell has been healthy. He just hasn't went full go yet, and Vermeil is monitoring him as closely as he is monitoring Will Shields. Kendrell Bell may be the single most important player on our defense this season IMHO. He can rush the QB like no other LB we've had in a long time, and he really is a solid run stuffer.


Also don't forget he could mentor DJ too

Simplex3
08-14-2005, 08:15 AM
My point is, you are WRONG. Emmitt Smith was a great running back. He was CERTAINLY not a RB that went down on first contact.
Sorry man, I didn't realize you and he were "involved".

penchief
08-14-2005, 08:31 AM
dominaNt. asCend.


If'n yer gonna use them fancy words, ya oughta spell 'em right.

I didn't read anything about a dominant assend.

penchief
08-14-2005, 08:41 AM
.... our DE's well...we've got issues...

I always thought Browning stood out more as a DE than as a DT. Maybe he's getting too old but, IMO, he'd be a better all-round DE than anybody we've got right now. Am I just nuts or what?

bringbackmarty
08-14-2005, 09:25 AM
I hate to say it but it looks like Holmes may have lost that step the TJ has been predicting for the last five years. It may just be that it's everyone's first time banging in pads so I'll keep my fingers crossed. Even if he has he'll still be one of the five best backs in the league, so I don't think it's a huge concern.

The entire group of DTs needs to be called out for being fat and pathetic. The DEs need to keep contain or no amound of upgrade at LB and DB is going to help. Why is it the our DEs can't understand when to go down the line and when to keep outside contain? Does our DL coach suck? I can't imagine ALL these players are busts.

DJ shed a block, chased down Culpepper, hit him high running in the same direction, and knocked his ass to the ground. I can't remember seeing Culpepper go down like that before. DJ is the real deal.
what game were you watching?

Simplex3
08-14-2005, 10:23 AM
what game were you watching?
Same one as you but I'm guessing you were watching it on your homervision tv.

the Talking Can
08-14-2005, 10:34 AM
I always thought Browning stood out more as a DE than as a DT. Maybe he's getting too old but, IMO, he'd be a better all-round DE than anybody we've got right now. Am I just nuts or what?

no...but I am blinded by my hatred for Hicks...I can't believe he's had his job - unchallenged - for so long...Browning would be better against the run, imho, but wouldn't bring much a pass rush....Allen has show more than a pass rush or we're in big trouble becuase the Vikings ran over and around him like he wasn't even there....which he wasn't, being so out of position all the time..

runnercyclist
08-14-2005, 10:43 AM
I'd take that bet.... and when has priest not been caught from behind? I guess he's no Michael Pittman but who is?


You mean he's not a crazy wife beater? I'd take Holmes or Johnson over Pittpussy any day.

Katipan
08-14-2005, 10:43 AM
I didn't have a problem with that. If I was an NFL player, I'd have done the same thing. Just to get a taste of the NFL life outside my first team.

he also had his own little tv show here