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Dartgod
09-05-2000, 10:57 AM
We need to do something to rectify the mess we have now. I propose this:

We start over with a new draft. We have until next Wednesday to pre-rank our keepers. We will then start our new league in week 3 of the NFL schedule. We also might consider moving to Sandbox because the player rankings at Yahoo are so screwed up. I prefer Yahoo's format as it is easy to manage your team. The only drawback I see is the ranking system. Please post your thoughts or comments as soon as possible so we can get the ball rolling in fixing this mess.

ansonsdad
09-05-2000, 11:22 AM
Start over.I'm not happy about it,but if it ends the bi+ching ,alright.I do think Headhunters should be penalized for wasting everyone's time on the 1st draft though.Drafting last is probably the only way to do this,although the punishment is not severe enough.I like Sandbox better,but already have a team there,so I would have to create a new ID.(since your only allowed 1 team)This is alot of time and effort for nothing,especially for the organizers (Dartgod and Jeff)

Dartgod
09-05-2000, 11:56 AM
The Headhunters posted these 2 messages on the Yahoo board. What do you all think?

Just leave it the way it is !
by: Colorado headhunters (rock8604) Tuesday, September 5 10:12 AM PT

I thought that the draft was set for Friday, It was not so o well. I thought that we were to drop players on the other list to the bottom, that didn't happen. I know the commish drop players from my list but no others, o well just leave it the way it is and I will make due. I got in this for the fun of it if oters want to take it other wise that is there down fall not mine. I will make do with what I can get!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I forgot to add one more thing.
by: Colorado headhunters (rock8604) Tuesday, September 5 10:47 AM PT

God forbid someone get mad a say they don't want to play any more. You know take there ball and go home.(hehehe) <BR>

Dartgod
09-05-2000, 12:17 PM
The Headhunters posted these 2 messages on the Yahoo board. What do you all think?

Just leave it the way it is !
by: Colorado headhunters (rock8604) Tuesday, September 5 10:12 AM PT

I thought that the draft was set for Friday, It was not so o well. I thought that we were to drop players on the other list to the bottom, that didn't happen. I know the commish drop players from my list but no others, o well just leave it the way it is and I will make due. I got in this for the fun of it if oters want to take it other wise that is there down fall not mine. I will make do with what I can get!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I forgot to add one more thing.
by: Colorado headhunters (rock8604) Tuesday, September 5 10:47 AM PT

God forbid someone get mad a say they don't want to play any more. You know take there ball and go home.(hehehe) <BR>

KCTitus
09-05-2000, 12:25 PM
Im not exactly sure how screwed up this thing is, ie, how many keepers are on the wrong teams?

Im willing to vote for a re-draft as well as having the waiver period. I feel jipped that there was no waiver period and I was unable to pick up some of the best UDFA's on the board.<P>

morphius
09-05-2000, 12:27 PM
I'm with ansonsdad, if it will keep everyone from complaining lets redo it. I would just play it the way it is, even though I have lost one keeper for the year and another guy, is very often injured. What can one do.

Phobia
09-05-2000, 12:33 PM
I'll go with the majority. Clearly, I benefited from the screwup as much or moreso than anyone so I'll abstain from the voting.

Dr. Red
09-05-2000, 12:34 PM
No yahoo is way better and 9 out of 10 of us did it correctly. Sandbox sucks. Period.

Phobia
09-05-2000, 12:35 PM
Also, FWIW - I'm not complaining. If I'm forced to drop my 5th round pick with no similar value in return, then I'm complaining.

morphius
09-05-2000, 12:40 PM
Is there any chance we could get everyone together on a thread and do a quick live draft? Say tomorrow night?

Dr. Red
09-05-2000, 12:44 PM
Tommorrow night is good for me. phobia it should be the same draft order. It took me 30 minutes to pre-rank 100 players. Packard needs to e-mail everyone on the developments though so we don't have the same clausterf#ck.

KCTitus
09-05-2000, 12:58 PM
Tomorrow night is fine with me as well.

And let me just set the record straight, here, The only reason I said anything about this on the Yahoo site was because, I dont think we ever really decided as a group how to fix this problem.

morphius
09-05-2000, 01:05 PM
Titus - Yeah I have been really busy and couldn't think of one good way to do it. These are my personal feeling on this "new" draft.

First we do a straight draft, no snake. Since we are playing a keeper league which drafts in order from last place to first place this should hold true for the draft.

Our first pick will be our 4 keepers and then go from here, that is the problem with redoing a draft one of my keepers is out for the season, and I really hate to do it again.

We switch back to 3 defenders and 1 less offensive player, just like last season.

Anyone see anything wrong with this?

Dartgod
09-05-2000, 01:09 PM
Tomorrow night is no good for me. I bowl league tomorrow. Thursday would be ok though.

Dartgod
09-05-2000, 01:11 PM
The headhunters has agreed to just keep things as they are. What do you say we do that? Next year we will be much more organized and do a live draft.

morphius
09-05-2000, 01:13 PM
Dartgod - That is what I was afraid of, Thursday night and Friday are both bad for me. Darn friggen icky poopy heads.

Dartgod
09-05-2000, 01:26 PM
yeah friday is bad for me also, I'm heading to Nebraska this weekend, so Thursday is the only night that works for me. I'm thinking maybe we should just live with what we got.

Dr. Red
09-05-2000, 01:33 PM
No, there doesn't need to be any changes other than start anew and make a new date that jives with everyone.

Dr. Red
09-05-2000, 01:34 PM
I'm flexible guys any night but tonight.

Kckrazy
09-05-2000, 01:36 PM
I said that I would leave it so leave it. I tried for weeks to find out what need to be done. I ASKED WHAT WE NEED TO DO, and nothing until the Monday before the draft. My Screw up ok if I have to take all of the blam then so be it.

nmt1
09-05-2000, 01:43 PM
I vote we leave it be.

nmt1
09-05-2000, 01:44 PM
Why am I a lurker?

morphius
09-05-2000, 01:46 PM
nmt1 - Who are you? nathan? Anyway, your a lurker for your first 50 posts, used to be 30 I think.

nmt1
09-05-2000, 01:48 PM
Yeah it's Nathan. Gregg's little brother.

Phobia
09-05-2000, 01:58 PM
I will concede to the group's wishes as well. The only concern I have is that we obviously have a group of highly competitive fellas here. Is the joy of winning this thing diminished by leaving it as is? Are we going to hear, yeah, Dartgod won but the draft was screwed up that year? Is Headhunters going to feel like he doesn't have a chance to compete? Is everyone content with the way it is? I don't want any hard feelings any way we slice it. I want to bury the hatchet permanently with kccrazy & leave it buried with no mention of a tainted draft.

Can we accept status quo and move forward?

Kckrazy
09-05-2000, 01:59 PM
Just 1 question, if everyone was to drop the keepers to the bootom of the list and my keepers were taken, then why am I the only one to screw up?

Kckrazy
09-05-2000, 02:03 PM
kphobia, as long as the hatchet is not in my back I as all for it.(grin)

Kckrazy
09-05-2000, 02:03 PM
should have said I am not I as

Phobia
09-05-2000, 02:05 PM
re: ranking keepers besides your own.

That word was never "officially" passed. Plus a complete list of keepers was never passed. Not ranking keepers was something several of us did on our own possibly to gain an edge in the drafting. At least that was my thought process. I didn't know Smith was your keeper.

[This message has been edited by KPhobia (edited 09-05-2000).]

morphius
09-05-2000, 02:09 PM
kccrazy - I sent out an email with the

Kckrazy
09-06-2000, 04:12 PM
lets see if I can see more the the first 29 post today?

KCTitus
09-06-2000, 04:15 PM
kckrazy: I think everyone is willing to leave it in its current form. I have not heard anything email or otherwise to the contrary.

Good luck and you werent far off from beating me last week anyway.

I have the feeling I'll be battling for last place soon enough.

Kckrazy
09-06-2000, 04:52 PM
If anyone has an extra RB I'm listing.