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Packfan
09-07-2000, 07:42 PM
This was against the Houston Oilers who were led by Warren Moon. Since then, the Oilers moved to Tennessee, gutted their team, and rebuilt with a young, talented head coach, great drafting, and playmaking QB and RB. Last year, they went to the Super Bowl and are one of the favorites to return this year. Ironically, the Chiefs havent won a playoff game since then and have that same QB from the Oilers as their number one back up.

Many of you are thankful that the Chiefs "have a chance" every year and support the band aid - FA castoff approach that Peterson uses. But as Houston/Tenn and many others have proven, you can rebuild quickly as long as you are committed to it and have the proper leadership in place.

Peterson must go!

Cannibal
09-07-2000, 07:47 PM
That is truly sickening!

The problem is that Peterson is under Lamar's desk 24-7, [probably why our draft picks are always late to training camp] and Lamar loves those Peterson hummers. So Peterson being replaced is a long shot. It won't happen until the fans stop showing up and hopefully that will be this year.

Phobia
09-07-2000, 07:51 PM
Wow, I had NO IDEA all this was true. I'm changing teams tomorrow!

Packfan
09-07-2000, 07:53 PM
Cannibal,

Check out the Bills and their roster. 40 players drafted or signed as rookie free agents. They cut the cord with over the hill, overpaid vets, and drafted wisely. And they developed and played those draft picks. They are a completely different team than the one that beat the Chiefs in the AFC championship game. They are a damn good team. I rant and rave about Peterson because there are many examples of turning over a team and being competitive and having a realistic chance at the Super Bowl. Some of these fans are happy with mediocrity because "we have a chance". Well the chance is very slim and getting more slim every year. I wish more Chief fans would realize this and run Peterson and co. out of town.

Packfan
09-07-2000, 07:55 PM
Kphobia,

I know, many Chief fans are unaware of what goes on throughout the rest of the league.

Cannibal
09-07-2000, 07:55 PM
The Chiefs haven't had a "chance" since 97.

Phobia
09-07-2000, 08:05 PM
Well, I'm not *really* a Chiefs fan I found out today....

Logical
09-07-2000, 08:14 PM
Packfan,

It took Tennesse 5 years to rebuild to anything more than a 500 team. That is not a very good example.

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Logical
09-07-2000, 08:20 PM
Ken,

Your Buffalo example is poor because they follow the Peterson methodology to rebuild. Using a combination of draft picks, free agents and keeping a core of veterans as they retool. This is a really poor choice. If you compare our roster to 97 I think you will find a similar number of different players as what you site. You may not enjoy this, you may say in your opinion our choices were not as good as Buffalo's but you cannot say it is the philosophy that is the difference.

Tennesse and Indy are good examples of your point but they took about 5 years each to reach playoff level. That is a long time. When you praise Buffalo you make an argument for Peterson's method.

Dartgod
09-07-2000, 09:18 PM
I SURE am glad Ken found his way over here to enlighten us on the evils of CP.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Helvetica, verdana, ariel">quote:</font><HR>I wish more Chief fans would realize this and run Peterson and co. out of town.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now how exactly can we, the fans, run CP out of town? I know what you'll say. Quit buying the tickets. Well, some may wish to do that, but I don't intend to give up my seats I have had since before Peterson was here and will still have loooong after he's gone.

Yosef_Malkovitch
09-07-2000, 09:30 PM
Hey Ken, I asked you this on the other board a few months ago, but you never answered.

Exactly WHY does a GB fan hate CP so much? I mean, why do you care one way or the other? Sure, he's inept, but it's not hurting YOUR team any, so why do you care?

I'm not attacking you, I'm legitimately curious as to why you hate the man so much....

Dartgod
09-07-2000, 09:35 PM
Don't go there Yosef...

Yosef_Malkovitch
09-07-2000, 09:36 PM
Eh? I've been lurking around since January, and I've never heard any reasons as to WHY Ken hates him so much. Did CP steal his girlfriend or something?

Dartgod
09-07-2000, 09:44 PM
I don't get it either, but I know I've heard the exact same thing from him over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over for more than a year now.

He kinda puts the Energizer Bunny to shame. http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/smile.gif

Phobia
09-07-2000, 09:46 PM
He put a new twist in it this time. He's never thrown out supporting evidence in the form of other teams as examples. I'm quite proud of his research. This time he didn't cut & paste from his archives.

Dartgod
09-07-2000, 10:05 PM
Just testing my signature line...

Dartgod
09-07-2000, 10:06 PM
Just testing my signature line...

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KCWolfman
09-07-2000, 10:08 PM
Dartgod - Hey, what is going on with the FFL? I have heard nothing from anyone. I offered my two picks I got from Headhunter for a trade (I realize that it wasn't the greatest, but I don't understand why I would have to settle for 429th best because of his mistake), but I heard nothing back.

I have made acquisitions since everyone posted, so I am assuming that this league is still active until I hear otherwise.

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Dave Lane
09-07-2000, 10:18 PM
Actually I think the Chiefs are following that approach more recently Ken. Look around, where's Dishman, Rison, Bam (OK bad example there) Williams (unfortunately he's still here although not starting) and look who is on the field as a rookie, Bartee, Dennis, Moreau, Morris and other spot players. TELL ME WHEN YOU SAW HIS RECENTLY??? 4-5 rooks playing? not in Marty's era I guarantee you. And to top it off this was game #1!

The turnover in personnel has been pretty good in the 1 1/16 of a year Gun's been here. Give him a little more time and lets see.

Yosef_Malkovitch
09-07-2000, 10:39 PM
Hmmm, well, whatever. I just wish I knew why he has a vendetta against CP.

TEX
09-07-2000, 10:57 PM
Ken,
I was at that game and it was SWEET! If you remember, the Oilers blanked the Chiefs 30-0 in week 2 (without Joe, Szott and Grunhard). Boy what a DIFFERENCE their return made! If that was going to be the Chiefs last playoff victory, boy what a game!
You forgot to mention that the Oilers/Titans had to endure many losing seasons to the tune of a 2-12 and a 3-13 season and several 7-9 campaigns to get to where they are today. They broke even once in '98 and the next year they went to the Super Bowl. The BEST move they made was hiring a Jeff Fisher. All that losing did pay off but they will start to lose free agents very soon like they did last year. Such us the price of success in the NFL. BTW did they win a Super Bowl in the process? NO. IMHO the ONLY reason they even made it to the Super Bowl was because of one of the worst BLOWN calls in the history of the NFL. But you are right, they are a good team.

Phobia
09-07-2000, 11:03 PM
Steve,

I thought the Titans/Oilers posted an 8-8 in 97 as well.

BTW, I disagree with the blown call. Realtime, it looked like a forward lateral but after seeing & disecting MANY replays, I'm convinced it was straight down the yardline.

TEX
09-07-2000, 11:11 PM
Phil,
You're correct about '97, they did finish 8-8 but I'll go to my grave believiing it was a blown call. I'm not saying I'm right.I'm just ticked off in the whole process of viewing plays on the field. IMO, there's no way the call would have been reversed under those circumstances. I'm still ticked off about the blown call in the '79 AFC Championship game that went against the Oilers. Remember Mike Renfros catch against the Steelers in the corner of the endzone? That was a blown call and the league made an official apology the following week. I think that it was the play that started the movement for replay.

Yosef_Malkovitch
09-08-2000, 12:32 AM
Well, I sure wish they'd of had replay for the '97 season. I think KC would have another SB trophy now if they did...