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tk13
08-25-2005, 02:49 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/12469367.htm

Tynes’ video games

By ADAM TEICHER

The Kansas City Star


Lawrence Tynes’ daily form of self-punishment this week was to look at video of all his field-goal attempts over the last two seasons.

It wasn’t the most pleasant of tasks, not with Tynes mired in a slump that could cost him his job as the Chiefs’ kicker. But he made himself do it anyway because something he sees on the tape just might help him prevent such a blow.

There’s Tynes on the screen, nailing perfectly a 38-yard attempt in the final seconds to beat the Raiders last Christmas. The vision still brings a smile to his face but also a nagging thought: If he can do it then in such a pressure-packed situation, why not now in the measly exhibition season?

He had made four of seven in the preseason. Combined with a similarly inconsistent training camp, that’s not good enough to suit the Chiefs, who are on the verge of importing another kicker.

Tynes’ last chance to convince them otherwise could some in Saturday’s preseason game against Seattle at Arrowhead Stadium.

It’s not too dramatic to believe Tynes is at a career crossroads, at least where his time with the Chiefs is concerned.

“I’ve gone back and looked at last year’s films, the good and the bad, probably five times in the past three days,” he said. “This is not demoralizing. It’s just that I’m so much better than that. I’m looking for big things this year. I’m not just trying to be another guy out there. I want to go to the Pro Bowl.

“I’m not concerned because I know I’m going to get through it.”

As with everything, there are reasons for Tynes’ problems. Coach Dick Vermeil talked about technique — inconsistent placement of his plant foot.

Clearly, things are not right between Tynes and his new holder, rookie punter Dustin Colquitt. Tynes praised Colquitt, who has never served as a holder before.

Yet it was evident at training camp that Colquitt was having trouble holding the ball steady on several of Tynes’ kicks. As a result, Tynes often had to kick a moving ball.

That almost always leads to a missed kick.

A moving ball may have been the issue in Tynes’ two missed field goals last week against Arizona. Kicker and holder had an animated conversation as they walked off the Arrowhead field to a loud chorus of boos after the first miss.

Tynes was also allegedly involved in a bar fight at camp in River Falls, Wis., and was charged with one count of felony battery and one count of misdemeanor battery. It can’t be easy keeping the mind on business with those charges looming.

“I’ve never been in trouble before,” he said. “That will all work out. I know what will happen with that. But I’ve been accused of something, and it’s a change in my life. Needless to say, this wasn’t the best week of my life.

“All the attention it got was a little overwhelming. I wouldn’t say it affected me on the field.”

Vermeil’s public criticism probably doesn’t help. Vermeil said after the Arizona game that Tynes was “in the tank.”

Tynes said his coach was more supportive privately.

“He’s been open with me,” he said. “He studied hours upon hours of film and put together some film for me to look at, the good and the bad. I know what I need to do to get this right.

“He realizes I’m better than what I showed. I don’t think he’s just going to give up on me.”

Vermeil and special-teams coach Frank Gansz Jr. have Tynes working on more consistent placement of his plant foot.

“When he misses, it looks like he has a different placement of his plant foot than he does when he makes it,” Vermeil said. “Plus, the one he got credited for a miss in the game the other day was tipped. It really wasn’t his fault. At the same time, if it had been down the middle it wouldn’t have been tipped.”

Tynes acknowledged that his plant foot was off at times. That problem may be a product of a bigger, more difficult one.

“It’s because I’m rushing things,” Tynes said. “I’m kind of waiting to let everything develop and then go to the ball instead of doing my routine the way it should be done.

“I’ve got to trust the operation and swing at it. If you change the holder like I have — I’ve had five guys in the last year — it’s a matter of getting used to him and how he sets up over the ball and whether he’s putting it in the right spot or moving it. Dustin’s been doing a good job. I just have to get used to how he does it because I have to rely on other people to be successful.”

Tynes will be the one to suffer if the situation doesn’t quickly improve.

“When you’re kicking well, it’s the best position in football,” former Chiefs kicker Nick Lowery said. “It’s the worst position when you’re not doing well. It’s easy for people to remember when you miss.

“He’s got to be tough. He’s ultimately the one who has to find his way out of this. He’s got to get to the point where he’s no longer concerned about the rhythm of the snap or the hold. That way, he’ll be able to focus on just his technique.”

Rausch
08-25-2005, 02:56 AM
What a punishment.

The guy can lick my fuzzy peach pit pouch. He's the stink that makes the turd brown and we all know it...

SNR
08-25-2005, 03:35 AM
Tynes just has to figure things out, I guess.

That's nice to know, Lawrence. Now hurry the f*ck up or you're dead

HemiEd
08-25-2005, 04:21 AM
Have they considered going back to and experienced holder? :hmmm:

DaWolf
08-25-2005, 05:47 AM
Have they considered going back to and experienced holder? :hmmm:
I don't get why they just didn't have Todd Collins there from the beginning. I mean he used to hold right? Why throw an inexperienced rookie in there to hold if he's never done it?

Chan93lx50
08-25-2005, 06:09 AM
I don't get why they just didn't have Todd Collins there from the beginning. I mean he used to hold right? Why throw an inexperienced rookie in there to hold if he's never done it?

I was wondering the same damn thing? It makes no sense, what a dumb move Dick

Herzig
08-25-2005, 06:25 AM
I don't get why they just didn't have Todd Collins there from the beginning. I mean he used to hold right? Why throw an inexperienced rookie in there to hold if he's never done it?

Well...maybe they could have done that against the Vikes, but he's got a broken hand right now. Hard to hold things with that.

siberian khatru
08-25-2005, 07:00 AM
Anybody have a list of FA holders out there?

Count Alex's Wins
08-25-2005, 07:29 AM
Just get Trent Green to hold. Christ. I think it's OBVIOUS Colquitt is part of the problem here.

If he gets a good holder and is still shanking them, get rid of his ass.

WisChief
08-25-2005, 07:56 AM
Anybody have a list of FA holders out there?


ME!

$100,000 a year and I'm there!

StcChief
08-25-2005, 07:58 AM
I don't get why they just didn't have Todd Collins there from the beginning. I mean he used to hold right? Why throw an inexperienced rookie in there to hold if he's never done it?
Agreed.

Backup QB/Holder.

Old days the backup QB was also the punter. More specialized now?

concerned the holder might have to block on a bad hike??? Not with Gammons.

the Talking Can
08-25-2005, 07:59 AM
Well...maybe they could have done that against the Vikes, but he's got a broken hand right now. Hard to hold things with that.

he could use his mouth

Cormac
08-25-2005, 08:05 AM
He's the stink that makes the turd brown and we all know it...

ROFL....dayum.....ROFL

Iowanian
08-25-2005, 08:24 AM
Billy Cundiff isn't Jan Stenerud, but he just got cut, has NFL experience, and is from Iowa.

Bring him in to challenge Tynes.

DaWolf
08-25-2005, 08:37 AM
Billy Cundiff isn't Jan Stenerud, but he just got cut, has NFL experience, and is from Iowa.

Bring him in to challenge Tynes.

I thought Cundiff was hurt? Or was that some other kicker?

Brock
08-25-2005, 08:39 AM
Well...maybe they could have done that against the Vikes, but he's got a broken hand right now. Hard to hold things with that.

He's been holding a clipboard just fine.

htismaqe
08-25-2005, 08:41 AM
Billy Cundiff isn't Jan Stenerud, but he just got cut, has NFL experience, and is from Iowa.

Bring him in to challenge Tynes.

He was cut from the Cowboys because he has a torn quadriceps. Not strained, TORN. He's likely out for at least half the season, if not more.

Iowanian
08-25-2005, 08:43 AM
I see...wasn't aware of that.

jspchief
08-25-2005, 08:57 AM
“I’ve gone back and looked at last year’s films, the good and the bad, probably five times in the past three days,” he said. “This is not demoralizing. It’s just that I’m so much better than that. I’m looking for big things this year. I’m not just trying to be another guy out there. I want to go to the Pro Bowl.


Yea, Lawrence. I want to go to the Pro Bowl too. Let me suggest my travel agent.

http://www.pro-bowl-tickets.com/


Why don't you concentrate on making the team before you start practicing your hula dance. :rolleyes:

RedThat
08-25-2005, 10:01 AM
He was cut from the Cowboys because he has a torn quadriceps. Not strained, TORN. He's likely out for at least half the season, if not more.

Thanks for letting us know Parker. Didn't know that. Cundiff being sidelined for at least half year or more is fine with me. If Tynes sucks balls the whole entire season, then we can possibly pickup Cundiff at the end of the season, and he can be our kicker for the playoffs. I'd rather have him kick field goals in tight games for us than Tynes.

Frankie
08-25-2005, 10:08 AM
Anybody have a list of FA holders out there?
Why? We have Gammons. ;)

Rain Man
08-25-2005, 10:08 AM
Anybody have a list of FA holders out there?

My availability depends on what I'm being asked to hold.



The holding thing is actually a good point. If Colquitt is new at it, that could cause problems for Tynes. Get Collins back in there.

Frankie
08-25-2005, 10:09 AM
Why? We have Gammons. ;)

I know I know. How about RICH SCANLON? ;)

RedThat
08-25-2005, 10:10 AM
My availability depends on what I'm being asked to hold.



The holding thing is actually a good point. If Colquitt is new at it, that could cause problems for Tynes. Get Collins back in there.

Collins has a broken hand though and wont be ready until week 1, or 2 of the regular season.

Frankie
08-25-2005, 10:10 AM
Why? We have Gammons. ;)

"I can't snap it and hold it too!" (ala Grbac)

the Talking Can
08-25-2005, 10:10 AM
maybe Siavii could hold for us?


he can't play DT...

Rain Man
08-25-2005, 10:11 AM
maybe Siavii could hold for us?


he can't play DT...


And we know he won't move, either.

siberian khatru
08-25-2005, 10:40 AM
My availability depends on what I'm being asked to hold.



Lawrence Tynes' balls.

Rain Man
08-25-2005, 10:45 AM
Lawrence Tynes' balls.


I'm torn.

Frankie
08-25-2005, 10:47 AM
I'm torn.
Why? Cuz it's only ONE ball at a time?
:p

TEX
08-25-2005, 11:10 AM
Tynes is the same kicker he was when the CHIEFS cut him a couple of years ago. He had a decent season last year, and it gave the CHIEFS, and us, reason for optimism. But the fact is, Tynes' profile is being an erratic kicker more than it is a good one. I'd CUT this guy the second a better kicker is available. Kickers, more often than not, will BURN you if you ignore the signs and give them the chance.

ptlyon
08-25-2005, 11:18 AM
Tynes is the same kicker he was when the CHIEFS cut him a couple of years ago. He had a decent season last year, and it gave the CHIEFS, and us, reason for optimism. But the fact is, Tynes' profile is being an erratic kicker more than it is a good one. I'd CUT this guy the second a better kicker is available. Kickers, more often than not, will BURN you if you ignore the signs and give them the chance.

OKAY

Dunit35
08-25-2005, 11:18 AM
He is gonna get out of this slump..and if he doesnt We will sign someother kicker that kicked in Canada..

ptlyon
08-25-2005, 11:20 AM
The good news is that some prison somewhere will be getting a kicker for their football squad to play against the guards.