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TRR
08-26-2005, 02:05 PM
Q&A with DICK VERMEIL
Aug 26, 2005, 2:21:09 PM


Q: Have you put together your list of guys who won’t play tomorrow night?

DICK VERMEIL: “Dante (Hall) won’t play. John Welbourn is very questionable, still has a stiff neck. Jerome Woods will play; Kendrell Bell is doubtful.”

Q: You said yesterday that if it was the regular season Dante Hall would play; would you say that about Kendrell Bell if it was the regular season?

VERMEIL: “I would think so. That’s what we brought him here to do.”

Q: Do you expect him to be ready?

VERMEIL: “I do expect him to be.”

Q: How concerned are you with so many guys who haven’t been able to take advantage of a full workout in pre-season?

VERMEIL: “There has been a number but, fortunate for us, most of it has been in backup positions and not many starters. Sampson has missed some work but he got a lot of work prior to that first pre-season game, so once he’s healthy he could come back in and pick right up where he left off.

“We lost Robert Holcombe who we counted on being a fullback and a running back. Those things have hurt it, but overall we’ve been fortunate. The guys who have missed time are back like Carlos Hall and Junior Siavii. But they were not slated as starters.”

Q: With the third pre-season game and starters maybe going into the third quarter, what are you looking for?

VERMEIL: “I think you look for everything. The first thing you look for is consistency and improvement: individual improvement, backup players who step up and play better, somebody to play well enough not to be one of the 15 guys cut on Tuesday, or someone who it’s glaring he can’t play.

“The big thing is to see us do a little better job of meeting expectations, do a good job in all the fundamental things.”

Q: Do you put more stock in the third pre-season game as far as preparation or the fourth?

VERMEIL: “I put more stock in the third game because we play our starters a little bit more. That’s just for stamina and getting used to play more reps and getting ready when there are 15 fewer players on the practice field next week.”

Q: Will Saturday really make a difference for some players?

VERMEIL: “I think it will. It’ll make a difference. We have some very tight competition at wide receiver, linebacker, a few spots on the offensive line, safeties. We’ve got to make some decisions. It’s good but a little more intense than any year since I’ve been here. We’re going to try and play as many guys as we can and still play well. We’re more capable of playing pretty good when we have our starters out there. We have them, especially since last week when we had 24 guys not suited up. This week we only have 11 (injured) listed as out. It’ll help us especially on defense to play a little better.”

Q: If Kendrell Bell doesn’t get time with the veterans this week and the fourth game the veterans aren’t going to play a lot, how prepared can he be for the regular season?

VERMEIL: “He won’t be what he ought to be, or what we brought him here to be. But I think we can get him started. We control how many reps he plays next week. He can play more than the rest of the guys. Our best next week will probably play 20-25 snaps. He can play more to get going and he can do more on the practice field. But I’m not the doctors.”

Q: Does he want to play or is it the doctors’ decision?

VERMEIL: “I think they’re being extra cautious because it’s a combination of his mindset and the doctors and trainers together. It’ll end up being the smartest thing to do, it’s just that sometimes we’re so anxious. You can see all the athleticism and the ability to recognize and explode into a play. You can see that without pads on, but you’d like to see the end result, too.”

Q: With a player like Robert Holcombe who you know what he can do, are you inclined to keep a roster spot for him in the hopes he can come back from that injury, or is it that you can’t afford to?

VERMEIL: “It’s tough to afford that luxury because that would only give us one fullback. It’s not easy to predict when that knee is going to be ready to go. So that makes it very tough. We brought him here to be a fullback and a running back. I know he can help us but it makes it very tough.”

Q: Do you feel better about your kicker today than you did Monday?

VERMEIL: “Yeah, I do. I know he’s a good kicker. Every kicker I’ve ever had has gone through it. I think it’s a Vermeil disease. I’ve had ‘em Super Bowl years and playoff years. He not a flake, so there’s stability within his personality and he’s tough. If you can find a fundamental error you can correct it. It’s just like correcting your golf swing. All of a sudden you lose something in it and someone’s got to tell you where it is. I think it is in his plant foot and he feels it is in his plant foot. In a full kicking session this week he was 17-for-17. His goal this week is not to miss a field goal.”

Q: Were you hesitant to say anything to him knowing how you are with kickers?

VERMEIL: “Yea. My wife always tells me to stay away from them. She’s been around me long enough. I just felt the best approach was the approach I took.

htismaqe
08-26-2005, 02:06 PM
Sounds like they're going to cut Bell on Tuesday.

Deberg_1990
08-26-2005, 02:07 PM
Jerome Woods will play! WooHoo! WHo gives a crap about him? Dude will gone next week.

Mr. Laz
08-26-2005, 02:09 PM
Sounds like they're going to cut Bell on Tuesday.
someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning


you've gone completely Titus on everyone

htismaqe
08-26-2005, 02:13 PM
someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning


you've gone completely Titus on everyone

Who is Titus?

ptlyon
08-26-2005, 02:15 PM
Too bad it is DV's last year. We could rename Training Camp to Summer Camp.

TRR
08-26-2005, 02:20 PM
I was hoping for some good news today regarding Bell. I guess not. Hopefully he can have a full week of practice next week, and play an entire half of football during the last week of Preseason.

More than Bell being ready, I really wish Gun would get Fujita ready to play Bell's position. I've never liked Key Fox, and I'm not too anxious to see how an undrafted rookie does when the "real" lights turn on against the Jets.

Mr. Laz
08-26-2005, 02:23 PM
I was hoping for some good news today regarding Bell. I guess not. Hopefully he can have a full week of practice next week, and play an entire half of football during the last week of Preseason.

More than Bell being ready, I really wish Gun would get Fujita ready to play Bell's position. I've never liked Key Fox, and I'm not too anxious to see how an undrafted rookie does when the "real" lights turn on against the Jets.


isn't Griffin the heir apparent behind Bell?

TRR
08-26-2005, 02:25 PM
isn't Griffin the heir apparent behind Bell?

I guess. :rolleyes:

Mr. Laz
08-26-2005, 02:26 PM
Who is Titus?
a smart ass little troll who's single purpose, in posting on this board, is to tell all the chiefs fans how stupid they are.

Mr. Laz
08-26-2005, 02:26 PM
I guess. :rolleyes:
ooooooooo ... less than happy about Griffin i take?

Lzen
08-26-2005, 02:31 PM
Who is Titus?

Sonic the Hedgehog.

htismaqe
08-26-2005, 02:45 PM
OH!

You guys are talking about Tits!

petegz28
08-26-2005, 03:08 PM
DV is blowing smoke up everyone's ass on Bell. They don't want to admit they signed a broken LB. Or tell anyone what the real problem is.

TRR
08-26-2005, 03:31 PM
ooooooooo ... less than happy about Griffin i take?

I think Griffin is a good prospect. I have a lot better feeling on him then I did after the Vikes game. But I don't think he's ready to start a real game yet. I've seen quite a few flaws in his game, and that's to be expected.

When it comes down to it, I hope Fox starts before Griffin if they don't have enough foresight to see that Fujita is the best option.

TEX
08-26-2005, 03:45 PM
I was hoping for some good news today regarding Bell. I guess not. Hopefully he can have a full week of practice next week, and play an entire half of football during the last week of Preseason.

More than Bell being ready, I really wish Gun would get Fujita ready to play Bell's position. I've never liked Key Fox, and I'm not too anxious to see how an undrafted rookie does when the "real" lights turn on against the Jets.

Why? Bell will be "fine" - remember?
Seriously, I feel as you do about Fuj. I don't know what's up there. :hmmm:

TRR
08-26-2005, 03:50 PM
Why? Bell will be "fine" - remember?
Seriously, I feel as you do about Fuj. I don't know what's up there. :hmmm:

I believe Bell will be fine by the opener, but it's good to be prepared.

Your starting to get pretty annoying with the Bell thing...

TEX
08-26-2005, 03:59 PM
I believe Bell will be fine by the opener, but it's good to be prepared.

Your starting to get pretty annoying with the Bell thing...

Not nearly as annoying as those folks (yourself included) in the Bell camp that won't admit that the Emperior has no clothes.

You just believe Bell will be fine by the opener because you just believe it. There is absolutely no evidense to support this besides he looked really good in shorts. Folks keep drawing a line in the sand, kicking sand over it, and moving it backwards again until the next time. Talk about annoying...

Chan93lx50
08-26-2005, 04:36 PM
How did Fujita end up on Guns shit list?

Traveller
08-26-2005, 04:49 PM
How did Fujita end up on Guns shit list?

I think this hits the nail on the head. Gun is not impressed with Fujita and never will be.

There was a quote during training camp about how this year he has bullets to fire in his defense and last year he had none. I thought then and now that this said a lot about what Gun thinks about Fujita

TRR
08-26-2005, 05:02 PM
Not nearly as annoying as those folks (yourself included) in the Bell camp that won't admit that the Emperior has no clothes.

You just believe Bell will be fine by the opener because you just believe it. There is absolutely no evidense to support this besides he looked really good in shorts. Folks keep drawing a line in the sand, kicking sand over it, and moving it backwards again until the next time. Talk about annoying...

You know my opinion, why do you keep bringing it up? You think he won't be ready, I think he will. You have no more proof that he won't play, than I do that he will. Your really splitting hairs, and you have been from the beginning. Only time will tell. But at least I've seen the guy play (in full pads) before I made a judgement on him for myself.

TRR
08-26-2005, 05:16 PM
There is absolutely no evidense to support this besides he looked really good in shorts

Again, you have no clue what your talking about...

Kendrell Bell in full pads..

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/3965/kendrellbell23jd.jpg

TRR
08-26-2005, 05:19 PM
Bell in full pads #2...

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/8922/kendrellbell0wu.jpg

Frankie
08-26-2005, 05:56 PM
Not nearly as annoying as those folks (yourself included) in the Bell camp that won't admit that the Emperior has no clothes.
OK I'm afraid to ask, but what's an Emperior?

Frankie
08-26-2005, 05:58 PM
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/8922/kendrellbell0wu.jpg
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Fix those pix dude. They are screwing up this thread.

TEX
08-26-2005, 05:59 PM
OK I'm afraid to ask, but what's an Emperior?
It's emperor spelled wrong... :drool:

Frankie
08-26-2005, 06:00 PM
It's emperor spelled wrong... :drool:
Oh, I thought it's a new CP word.

TEX
08-26-2005, 06:12 PM
You know my opinion, why do you keep bringing it up? You think he won't be ready, I think he will. You have no more proof that he won't play, than I do that he will. Your really splitting hairs, and you have been from the beginning. Only time will tell. But at least I've seen the guy play (in full pads) before I made a judgement on him for myself.


Sorry friend you came across as some "expert" cause you were there. A few of us were saying that we thought Bell was damaged goods when you chimed in with the whole. "He'll be FINE B.S." - like some know-it-all. Then you followed up with the whole,"I was at training camp and I saw him" - B.S.

I'm not splitting hairs - I just called you out as someone who didn't know what they were talking about who was coming across like they did - while ignoring the obvious the whole time. In the process you even changed your story somewhat sayng that Bell ,"Put in all the work" then I remimded you that he had NO CONTACT and you call that "splitting hairs?" No hairs split there as they are two totally different things. To me a LB working = contact...:hmmm:

Your pictures of Bell are very impressive. Yep - you saw him in pads, not hitting anybody, and you made your judgement. That's wonderful. Looks like you're just as good at evaluating defensive talent as the CHIEFS front office in this case - congrats! :rolleyes:

Claynus
08-26-2005, 06:13 PM
Fix those pix dude. They are screwing up this thread.

If an 800x650 picture is screwing up your thread, you need to increase your resolution.

TEX
08-26-2005, 06:14 PM
Oh, I thought it's a new CP word.\\

Oh - like the CP spelling of "genious" no doubt... :rolleyes:

Frankie
08-26-2005, 06:17 PM
If an 800x650 picture is screwing up your thread, you need to increase your resolution.

I hate scrolling left and right to read the posts. And I don't see anything else causing it but the 'width' of those pix.

Claynus
08-26-2005, 06:19 PM
I hate scrolling left and right to read the posts. And I don't see anything else causing it but the 'width' of those pix.

Increase your screen resolution.

tk13
08-26-2005, 06:23 PM
I know I'm in a small minority, and I haven't seen any of the preseason games to see how he's doing, but I was unimpressed with how Fujita was playing at the end of last year. He was accomplishing less than Kawika out there, he did nothing the last month of the season.

TRR
08-26-2005, 06:30 PM
Sorry friend you came across as some "expert" cause you were there. A few of us were saying that we thought Bell was damaged goods when you chimed in with the whole. "He'll be FINE B.S." - like some know-it-all. Then you followed up with the whole,"I was at training camp and I saw him" - B.S.

I'm not splitting hairs - I just called you out as someone who didn't know what they were talking about who was coming across like they did - while ignoring the obvious the whole time. In the process you even changed your story somewhat sayng that Bell ,"Put in all the work" then I remimded you that he had NO CONTACT and you call that "splitting hairs?" No hairs split there as they are two totally different things. To me a LB working = contact...:hmmm:

Your pictures of Bell are very impressive. Yep - you saw him in pads, not hitting anybody, and you made your judgement. That's wonderful. Looks like you're just as good at evaluating defensive talent as the CHIEFS front office in this case - congrats! :rolleyes:

For about the third time, you are wrong. Your on borderline ignore. I actually saw him in several contact drills, and I even saw him (1) tackle LJ and (2) get run over by LJ.

I never said I knew more than anyone else. I just told you what I saw. If you don't like it, don't read it. I just think I have a little better persepective about how Bell looks because, like I said before, most haven't seen him play or practice since 2003...Including yourself.

At least I have some info to back up my opinions. All you do is read DV's interviews, and bitch like a little girl everyday.

Have you ever been to a KC training camp? When was the last time you saw Kendrell Bell play?

TRR
08-26-2005, 06:36 PM
Fix those pix dude. They are screwing up this thread.

Relax...their fixed. Now we are waiting on you to fix your quote.

Frankie
08-26-2005, 06:39 PM
Relax...their fixed. Now we are waiting on you to fix your quote.
Huh?
:shrug:

TRR
08-26-2005, 06:40 PM
Huh?
:shrug:

The bigger picture is still in your reply to me. Delete that out of your reply, and the thread will be back to normal.

Frankie
08-26-2005, 06:44 PM
The bigger picture is still in your reply to me. Delete that out of your reply, and the thread will be back to normal.
Cool. Done. :thumb:

Logical
08-26-2005, 07:25 PM
Increase your screen resolution.You know that is not always a realistic answer. There are people who have requirements for the bigger graphics/font size. Just because you don't is no reason for them to not ask for a more reasonable picture size.

Claynus
08-26-2005, 07:27 PM
You know that is not always a realistic answer. There are people who have requirements for the bigger graphics/font size. Just because you don't is no reason for them to not ask for a more reasonable picture size.

800x650 is very reasonable. :harumph:

Logical
08-26-2005, 07:27 PM
For about the third time, you are wrong. Your on borderline ignore. I actually saw him in several contact drills, and I even saw him (1) tackle LJ and (2) get run over by LJ.

I never said I knew more than anyone else. I just told you what I saw. If you don't like it, don't read it. I just think I have a little better persepective about how Bell looks because, like I said before, most haven't seen him play or practice since 2003...Including yourself.

At least I have some info to back up my opinions. All you do is read DV's interviews, and bitch like a little girl everyday.

Have you ever been to a KC training camp? When was the last time you saw Kendrell Bell play?Being as DV himself has said that Bell has been in absolutely no contact drills this offseason, I think you have taken your defense too far.

TRR
08-26-2005, 07:51 PM
Being as DV himself has said that Bell has been in absolutely no contact drills this offseason, I think you have taken your defense too far.

Bell usually wrapped up, but on a couple of occasions, he got a good pop in, especially in individual drills with other LB's. When I read that quote (I'm not sure it was those exact words though) I was confused, because Bell had limited contact when I was there.

Wallcrawler
08-26-2005, 08:51 PM
Being as DV himself has said that Bell has been in absolutely no contact drills this offseason, I think you have taken your defense too far.



Wrong.

There's a thread around here entitled Q&A with Dick Vermiel, with "Bell in full contact drills" in the title.

Bell has been in contact drills.


Tex, BSPimpDude, and all the other people CONSTANTLY pissing and moaning about not seeing Bell in some meaningless pre-season games need to just have a few drinks, drive home, and take some sominex.

You should awaken from your coma around the time of the season opener, and none of us will have to read your ranting in every single post regarding Bell.

Some people put their views out there and leave it at that, and wait to see what happens....And then there are others who have to hammer it into everyone's skull by posting it every single opportunity that they get.

Then you have the nerve to call someone with an optimistic view annoying.

You can say whatever you like, God Bless America. But, this IS a Chiefs fanboard, and most of us here would like some positive things to happen to the team and would rather not have completely uninformed negative comments about one of the new players with the potential to really help our team crammed down our throats on a daily basis when you dont know anymore about what the deal is with him than we do.


Vermiel CLEARLY states that he expects Bell to be ready for the opener. Those are the games that count. What more do you want? How much clearer can it get than that? What do we have to do, draw it out in f'ing crayons?

Maybe he is dinged up. Why play through pain in a meaningless game when you dont have to, and risk further injury? You tough things out in the regular season when it counts.

If you would take the time to look at the bigger picture, and see that everything coming from Vermiel indicates that Bell will start in the opener, you would really have a lot less to bitch about.

But since you Bell detractors cant see him in a couple meaningless games, and are too impatient to wait until the games count, you have to piss and moan to anyone unfortunate enough to cross one of your posts.

the Talking Can
08-26-2005, 09:00 PM
if Bell were healthy he'd play....it really is that simple...

go bowe
08-26-2005, 09:01 PM
. . .you have to piss and moan to anyone unfortunate enough to cross one of your posts. why did the monkey cross a post?

TRR
08-26-2005, 09:12 PM
Wrong.

There's a thread around here entitled Q&A with Dick Vermiel, with "Bell in full contact drills" in the title.

Bell has been in contact drills.


Tex, BSPimpDude, and all the other people CONSTANTLY pissing and moaning about not seeing Bell in some meaningless pre-season games need to just have a few drinks, drive home, and take some sominex.

You should awaken from your coma around the time of the season opener, and none of us will have to read your ranting in every single post regarding Bell.

Some people put their views out there and leave it at that, and wait to see what happens....And then there are others who have to hammer it into everyone's skull by posting it every single opportunity that they get.

Then you have the nerve to call someone with an optimistic view annoying.

You can say whatever you like, God Bless America. But, this IS a Chiefs fanboard, and most of us here would like some positive things to happen to the team and would rather not have completely uninformed negative comments about one of the new players with the potential to really help our team crammed down our throats on a daily basis when you dont know anymore about what the deal is with him than we do.


Vermiel CLEARLY states that he expects Bell to be ready for the opener. Those are the games that count. What more do you want? How much clearer can it get than that? What do we have to do, draw it out in f'ing crayons?

Maybe he is dinged up. Why play through pain in a meaningless game when you dont have to, and risk further injury? You tough things out in the regular season when it counts.

If you would take the time to look at the bigger picture, and see that everything coming from Vermiel indicates that Bell will start in the opener, you would really have a lot less to bitch about.

But since you Bell detractors cant see him in a couple meaningless games, and are too impatient to wait until the games count, you have to piss and moan to anyone unfortunate enough to cross one of your posts.


Vlad meant in training camp. And he's right, Bell wasn't allowed to finish the play off. But on occasion, like when LJ is barrelling down on you, contact is going to happen. That's what I saw...Bell wasn't out there with a yellow jersey.

htismaqe
08-27-2005, 05:39 AM
Sorry friend you came across as some "expert" cause you were there. A few of us were saying that we thought Bell was damaged goods when you chimed in with the whole. "He'll be FINE B.S." - like some know-it-all. Then you followed up with the whole,"I was at training camp and I saw him" - B.S.

I'm not splitting hairs - I just called you out as someone who didn't know what they were talking about who was coming across like they did - while ignoring the obvious the whole time. In the process you even changed your story somewhat sayng that Bell ,"Put in all the work" then I remimded you that he had NO CONTACT and you call that "splitting hairs?" No hairs split there as they are two totally different things. To me a LB working = contact...:hmmm:

Your pictures of Bell are very impressive. Yep - you saw him in pads, not hitting anybody, and you made your judgement. That's wonderful. Looks like you're just as good at evaluating defensive talent as the CHIEFS front office in this case - congrats! :rolleyes:

You're turned into an A #1 whiney prick - congrats!

If you're so upset about this team, go find a new one.

Baby Lee
08-27-2005, 05:43 AM
OH!

You guys are talking about Tits!
Tits McGee is on vacation.

petegz28
08-27-2005, 08:12 AM
Tits McGee is on vacation.


You have a whorish mouth! ROFL

Mr. Laz
08-27-2005, 10:15 AM
You're turned into an A #1 whiney prick - congrats!

If you're so upset about this team, go find a new one.
well there it is ... parker is a full blown mangina


tis sad really :sulk:

TEX
08-27-2005, 10:48 AM
You're turned into an A #1 whiney prick - congrats!

If you're so upset about this team, go find a new one.


It's sooooo weak to copy others in a comback attempt. Are you legitimately retarded or something? :hmmm:

I'm so looking forward to meeting you at the 37 Forever Weekend! And if you are a retard, I'll bring you a nice gift - maybe a recorder, with really big buttons, so you can talk into it and play it back and understand what stupid sounds like. :doh!:

Ninjaman
08-27-2005, 11:45 AM
Kawika has made himself better but Fuj was injured.

Fuj's injury hurt his progress.

go bowe
08-27-2005, 11:50 AM
is hit-it going to be at joe's this year?

waaaayyy kewl...

htismaqe
08-27-2005, 01:36 PM
It's sooooo weak to copy others in a comback attempt. Are you legitimately retarded or something? :hmmm:

I'm so looking forward to meeting you at the 37 Forever Weekend! And if you are a retard, I'll bring you a nice gift - maybe a recorder, with really big buttons, so you can talk into it and play it back and understand what stupid sounds like. :doh!:

I won't be at 37Forever Weekend, sorry to disappoint.

As far as being legitimately retarded, you do realize that I was MOCKING you, not copying you, right?

htismaqe
08-27-2005, 01:37 PM
well there it is ... parker is a full blown mangina


tis sad really :sulk:

:hmmm:

I guess I must have missed where I was going from thread to thread whining about Kendrell Bell and the team lying to me...

Oh yeah, that's because it wasn't me, it was TEX.

But yes, it is sad. It's sad that this is all you have.