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memyselfI
09-04-2005, 04:09 PM
I believe that the poor who lost their homes in N/O and even the lower to middle class folks on the MS coastline might not ever see their land again. The recent Supreme Court decision makes it entirely possible that these people will be forced to sell their land (without the home because it's gone) to the cities and developers and perhaps even at a reduced cost because of the devastation that is the area. :mad: :cuss: :banghead: It's no wonder many people didn't want to leave their homes. If they do, will they ever see anything for it?

I thought I was being a cynic (since I've been accused of that once or twice in these parts) but then I read this op-ed and the scenario this man describes would not surprise me one bit. Sigh:


http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_rob_kall_050904_why_nero_burned_rome.htm

Why Nero burned Rome, How Bush Will Let the Vultures Descend Upon New Orleans

The famous line is that Nero Fiddled, while Rome burned. But historians believe that Nero wanted Rome to burn. The part that burned was where the poorest of the poor lived. And Nero wanted it to burn so he could expand his palace there.

by Rob Kall

http://www.opednews.com

Did Nero actually fiddle? We’ll never know for sure. But, off course, now, we have that famous photo of Bush playing a guitar, lobbying for the end of social security and estate taxes while thousands drowned. I’m going to say that Bush decided to kill these people and wipe out New Orleans. I am saying he is 100% responsible for the failures that led to the levee break and the failures to rescue the victims of the Levee Flood. I am saying that now that the disaster has occurred, Bush is the Number one Vulture.

New Orleans will be rebuilt, but it won’t be built the same as before. Maybe I’ve watched too much science fiction and read too many apocalyptic books like It Can’t Happen Here and the Librarian. But here’s what I see as New Orlean’s future.

Like the third world place it has become, a handful of wealthy people and a corrupt government will take over the entire New Orleans area. They will hand out contracts to Halliburton and whichever other big companies gave contributions to Bush.

Federal regulations will forbid small homes. The area that was flooded is prime real-estate, next to the French Quarter. It will be paved and covered with high-rise hotels, office buildings, golf courses, perhaps a shopping mall or two and a load of casinos. They’ll probably all be designed with flood resistant parking garages below flood level.

Developers—mostly transnationally owned hotel chains— will get to descend, like vultures, upon the remains of New Orleans. Red state rednecks from the rural sections of Louisiana and adjacent states will pick up the jobs.

Bottom line—the rip-off gas prices nation-wide are just the beginning. Bush cut his eyeteeth making his wealth off of government spending, starting with the sale of a baseball team. Bush will cash in on this disaster, as he’s done with Iraq and 9-11. These whore’s have no bottom, there is no low they cannot go lower than.

Perhaps they will through in some low income high rise instant tenements, like we see in section of NY city. They won’t be given the opportunity or insurance or federal aid to rebuild—unless they had expensive homes. Bush’s base—the upper 5% income people will get special federal aid and funds. They’ll get gorgeous condos or big settlements. The communities that existed will not be rebuilt.

Sadly, this approach will “make sense” at one level, since it will re-build New Orleans to be much more flood-proof, much safer than ever before.

The people who were shipped out of New Orleans to other states will be offered funds and support to stay in those states. Let’s call it disaster gerrymandering, except, in this case, the people, not the borders of the voting precincts have been moved. With tens of thousands of poor blacks, mostly democratic voters out of Louisiana, the balance will shift and the Republicans will steal the vote of another state. Too bad, but not surprising that the “refugees” weren’t moved to Florida or Ohio.

Rob Kall is editor of OpEdNews.com

Duck Dog
09-04-2005, 04:31 PM
I have to admit, I was interested in reading the article until I got to this.

Why Nero burned Rome, How Bush Will Let the Vultures Descend Upon New Orleans

Then the article lost all logical meaning.

mlyonsd
09-04-2005, 09:40 PM
It's no wonder many people didn't want to leave their homes. If they do, will they ever see anything for it?



Translation:

Once the aftermath is over and people start to understand that this wasn't all Bush's fault I have to come up with some reason able bodied people that could leave didn't heed the warnings, thus damaging Bush's image as best as we can hope for.

Logical
09-04-2005, 09:47 PM
Translation:

Once the aftermath is over and people start to understand that this wasn't all Bush's fault I have to come up with some reason able bodied people that could leave didn't heed the warnings, thus damaging Bush's image as best as we can hope for.Yes like my Doctor was saying Wednesday, what a shame all those people in intensive care, neonatal ICUs and those hooked to life support were not important enough for the Federal Government to allocate the resources on Saturday to move. They might not be dead today.

Logical
09-04-2005, 09:51 PM
I have to admit, I was interested in reading the article until I got to this.



Then the article lost all logical meaning.Yes no truth or logic in that article whatsoever.

They will hand out contracts to Halliburton and whichever other big companies gave contributions to Bush http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/business/3335685

mlyonsd
09-04-2005, 10:59 PM
Yes like my Doctor was saying Wednesday, what a shame all those people in intensive care, neonatal ICUs and those hooked to life support were not important enough for the Federal Government to allocate the resources on Saturday to move. They might not be dead today.

Yes. In your world a storm of this category it is a disgrace to not save every single person and is a disgrace.

Lets' just throw all of those people into hummers and take our chances. BRILLIANT!

Logical
09-05-2005, 01:11 AM
Yes. In your world a storm of this category it is a disgrace to not save every single person and is a disgrace.

Lets' just throw all of those people into hummers and take our chances. BRILLIANT!No matter what you say evacuating them would have made the utmost in sense and was imminently doable on Saturday. Even if you don't anticipate the flooding you know power is going to be lost across almost the entire area thus killing almost everyone in an ICU or on life support. Now if a tornado strikes suddenly that cannot be prevented but when a hurricane was known to be on the way 4 to 5 days in advance there is no excuse.

DenverChief
09-05-2005, 01:24 AM
No matter what you say evacuating them would have made the utmost in sense and was imminently doable on Saturday. Even if you don't anticipate the flooding you know power is going to be lost across almost the entire area thus killing almost everyone in an ICU or on life support. Now if a tornado strikes suddenly that cannot be prevented but when a hurricane was known to be on the way 4 to 5 days in advance there is no excuse.

exactly....not to mention not only the people who were in the hospital but elderly people without tranportaion or family to transport them and/or families without transportation with sick/old/young relatives living with them...."just leave gramma on the couch we gotta go junior"...some people are completely clueless about the reasons people could not leave

Brock
09-05-2005, 09:49 AM
No matter what you say evacuating them would have made the utmost in sense and was imminently doable on Saturday. Even if you don't anticipate the flooding you know power is going to be lost across almost the entire area thus killing almost everyone in an ICU or on life support. Now if a tornado strikes suddenly that cannot be prevented but when a hurricane was known to be on the way 4 to 5 days in advance there is no excuse.

You don't know what you're talking about. Just babbling as usual.

mlyonsd
09-05-2005, 09:55 AM
No matter what you say evacuating them would have made the utmost in sense and was imminently doable on Saturday. Even if you don't anticipate the flooding you know power is going to be lost across almost the entire area thus killing almost everyone in an ICU or on life support. Now if a tornado strikes suddenly that cannot be prevented but when a hurricane was known to be on the way 4 to 5 days in advance there is no excuse.

I'd like to know why the Governor didn't evacuate the city and use the buses before they were covered with water.

I'd like to know why the Governor didn't deploy the NG in a timely manner.

I'd like to understand just how the lines of communication from FEMA all the way down the chain broke down.

But the biggest question in my mind is how a city that size sitting below sea level didn't have a decent evacuation plan. Or at least follow it.

headsnap
09-05-2005, 09:57 AM
Question:
But the biggest question in my mind is how a city that size sitting below sea level didn't have a decent evacuation plan. Or at least follow it.

Answer: George Bush

mlyonsd
09-05-2005, 09:58 AM
Question:


Answer: George Bush

Yea I kind of figure that's the way it will go.

memyselfI
09-05-2005, 12:55 PM
Translation:

Once the aftermath is over and people start to understand that this wasn't all Bush's fault I have to come up with some reason able bodied people that could leave didn't heed the warnings, thus damaging Bush's image as best as we can hope for.

Actually, I hear that many did not evacuate because of their pets...

How many won't leave because they are afraid their home will be taken over and they will be left with nothing is unknown.

WilliamTheIrish
09-05-2005, 01:07 PM
It's no wonder many people didn't want to leave their homes. If they do, will they ever see anything for it?

You're going to tell me, with a straight face no less, that the poor, and uneducated, the disabled, and the elderly, of Louisiana, with a category 5 Cane bearing down on them, were worried about leaving because of possible emminent domain issues?

No D'nice, they were left to die by a mayor and governor and federal gov't who let them down.

memyselfI
09-05-2005, 01:10 PM
You're going to tell me, with a straight face no less, that the poor, and uneducated, the disabled, and the elderly, of Louisiana, with a category 5 Cane bearing down on them, were worried about leaving because of possible emminent domain issues?

No D'nice, they were left to die by a mayor and governor and federal gov't who let them down.

No, I'm saying people who stayed and survived the hurricane with a house still in tact are not leaving their homes because they fear they will never see anything for it.

They might not know the name of the law or the details of the recent ruling but they know might know enough history (especially that of Blacks in the South) to understand that if they leave they have less say in what happens to that house than if they remain in it.

WilliamTheIrish
09-05-2005, 01:23 PM
Oh. Gotcha.

I think the word 'didn't' in your original statement threw me.

As in didn't want to leave (before the storm hit).

Now I understand.

KC Dan
09-05-2005, 03:03 PM
I should post here as well, RIP Justice Rehnquist! Thank you for not voting to allow the gov't to be able to take our land from us. Thank you for not going along with the leftie ACTIVIST judges on the SC that chose to enable the N.O. and LA. gov'ts to take land from desperate people in LA. It was not your fault that hard-working Americans will be homeless and forced to find new shelter. And, thank you for always voting your conscious to preserve states rights vs congressional power grabbing laws.

If anyone in the Hurricane destruction area loses their homes to the gov't, remember those who reap praises on the left-leaning SC justices, that your saviors voted for it. Not the neo-cons, your patsies!

Ari Chi3fs
09-05-2005, 03:11 PM
that reminds me. I have to take a shit.

Brock
09-05-2005, 03:13 PM
No, I'm saying people who stayed and survived the hurricane with a house still in tact are not leaving their homes because they fear they will never see anything for it.

I hope they're smart enough to get out before the bulldozer knocks it down.

KC Dan
09-05-2005, 03:19 PM
that reminds me. I have to take a shit.Feel free to stuff your brains back up your arse when done! :)