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DJJasonp
09-07-2005, 02:20 PM
Harmon Forecast

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Week 1 - Thursday, Sep. 8, 2005

*New England 24 Oakland 7 -- New England was solid on both offense and defense last season en route to another Super Bowl victory, but the team has experienced many offseason changes, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. Oakland, which had one of the league's worst defenses, will look to make an early-season statement by slowing down Tom Brady and company.

Week 1 - Sunday, Sep. 11, 2005
*Washington 14 Chicago 7 -- Both the Bears and the Redskins struggled offensively last season, and all signs point to a low-scoring affair when these two teams clash on opening weekend. The affects of QB Rex Grossman's injured ankle and rookie first-round RB Cedric Benson's holdout will likely spell doom for Chicago, whose offense ranked the lowest of any team in 2004.

Cincinnati 21 *Cleveland 10 -- The Bengals had a hard time stopping the run last season, but the Browns had a hard time generating offense on the ground ... or in the air for that matter. Cleveland led the AFC in lost fumbles and Cincinnati was one of the conference's better teams at recovering them. Home-field advantage will play an important role for the Browns.

Denver 17 *Miami 14 -- Miami has many questions on offense entering its season-opener at Dolphins Stadium, particularly at quarterback, running back and on the offensive line, which was one of the league's least effective units in 2004. Miami will need to force turnovers and play aggressive defense if it hopes to have any chance against one of the league's top rushing teams in Denver.

*Buffalo 28 Houston 17 -- The Bills possess one of the league's stingiest defenses, which should be enough to slow down the Texans, a team that continues to slowly mature on offense. Buffalo was strong against the run and the pass, and forced a conference-best 39 turnovers last season. RB Willis MaGahee's ability to move the chains will be the difference against Houston.

New Orleans 18, *Carolina 14 -- Carolina has established itself as a team that makes big plays on defense. The Panthers led the NFL with 38 takeaways, but New Orleans is equal to the task defensively with a league-leading 20 fumble recoveries in 2004. Both teams are strong against the pass, which could result in an emphasis on the run, which favors the Saints.

*Kansas City 31 N.Y. Jets 10 -- The Chiefs possess the league's top offensive attack. If RBs Priest Holmes and Larry Johnson don't hurt you, TE Tony Gonzalez will. Kansas City spent the offseason improving its woeful defense, which may need time to gel. This will be QB Chad Pennington's first opportunity to show that his rebuilt shoulder will not affect the Jets' chances of winning.

Seattle 21 *Jacksonville 17 -- Mike Holmgren's offensive unit is as good as any in the NFC, but his receivers drop a lot of passes. Seattle spent its offseason trying to upgrade a defense that ranked 26 in the NFL. Jacksonville has home-field advantage, which is crucial. However, question marks hover over RB Fred Taylor, who needs to show that he's ready to go when the whistle blows.

*Minnesota 24 Tampa Bay 10 -- This is QB Duante Culpepper's first opportunity to show that he can produce without the services of WR Randy Moss. Minnesota will be expecting a lot of production from rookie Troy Williamson and veteran Nate Burleson. The Bucs' injury-riddled offensive line will need to open up holes for rookie RB Carnell "Cadillac" Williams in they have any chance at all.

*Pittsburgh 21 Tennessee 7 -- The Titans were forced to release several quality players in cost-cutting moves in the offseason. This could have an impact early on in the season as Tennessee looks to establish chemistry with a host of new starters. Pittsburgh WR Hines Ward's role on the offense is crucial, but its the team's top-ranked defense that will play the biggest role in the season-opener.

*N.Y. Giants 14 Arizona 10 -- Many believe that Dennis Green has the Cardinals heading in the right direction. However, Arizona will have its hands full against QB Eli Manning and company at Giants Stadium. New York's passing attack was much improved in the final six weeks of the 2004 regular season, which is indicative of Manning's growth at his position.

*San Diego 24 Dallas 14 -- The Chargers were the league's biggest surprise last season, but they are now a known commodity. QB Drew Brees played well above expectations, which made life easier for RB Ladainian Tomlinson. San Diego also did a good job of limiting turnovers. Bill Parcells will demand much more from his team following last season's unspectacular performance.

Green Bay 31 *Detroit 28 -- The Packers will showcase two new guards, who need to open up holes for Green Bay's feared running attack. QB Brett Favre's ability to improvise, coupled with his renewed emphasize on health and fitness, could play a big role in this game. Detroit's young receiving core will have an opportunity to showcase its skills against the Packs' woeful defensive backfield.

St. Louis 21 *San Francisco 7 -- Niners rookie QB Alex Smith, the league's top overall draft pick, will be waiting in the wings if Tim Rattay fails. If given the opportunity, Smith will be learning on the job on a team that isn't very good. The Rams' starting offensive unit looked really good in the preseason, and will look to carry that over in Week 1. Both teams are prone to turning the ball over.

Indianapolis 35 *Baltimore 21 -- The key offensive components are back for Indianapolis, which generated 6,332 yards off net offense last season. Colts QB Peyton Manning's ability to engineer drives that finish with an endzone dance should overpower the Ravens' aggressive defense, led by LB Ray Lewis. Having Jamal Lewis in camp and ready to roll will be a nice benefit for Baltimore.

Week 1 - Monday, Sep. 12, 2005
*Atlanta 24 Philadelphia 21 -- Eagles WR Terrell Owens' unhappiness may have an affect on the team's offensive chemistry, which could result in a less-than-stellar performance. QB Donovan McNabb will look to prove that his impact is more crucial to the Eagles' attack. This will be an equally pivotal game for Falcons' QB Michael Vick, whose ability to run the ball contributed to Atlanta's successful rushing attack in 2004.

* -- Home Team

tk13
09-07-2005, 02:26 PM
I'd take that. :)

carlos3652
09-07-2005, 02:30 PM
Nice...

HolmeZz
09-07-2005, 02:31 PM
I'd love that. Especially with the Faiders only putting up 7 points. :)

Chiefs Pantalones
09-07-2005, 02:40 PM
This guy is an expert. He obviously knows what he's talking about.

(Lexicon for talking head that picks Chiefs to win)

bsp4444
09-07-2005, 02:45 PM
I don't see New Orleans beating Carolina.

htismaqe
09-07-2005, 02:51 PM
31-10 is a pretty big gap. Wow.

Chiefs Pantalones
09-07-2005, 02:54 PM
31-10 is a pretty big gap. Wow.

I could see it. Remember the game a couple years ago against the Chargers? Quite a few people were concerned about that game, like this one. Our defense wanted to prove that it was changed, and we allowed only 14 points. One TD in the first, and one in the second, IIRC. I would be concerned if this were at NY, but we are just going to be too pumped, have too much intensity and energy for them to beat us, IMO.

ArrowheadHawk
09-07-2005, 02:55 PM
I could see it. Remember the game a couple years ago against the Chargers? Quite a few people were concerned about that game, like this one. Our defense wanted to prove that it was changed, and we allowed only 14 points. One TD in the first, and one in the second, IIRC. I would be concerned if this were at NY, but we are just going to be too pumped, have too much intensity and energy for them to beat us, IMO.
i hope you are right!

htismaqe
09-07-2005, 03:00 PM
I could see it. Remember the game a couple years ago against the Chargers? Quite a few people were concerned about that game, like this one. Our defense wanted to prove that it was changed, and we allowed only 14 points. One TD in the first, and one in the second, IIRC. I would be concerned if this were at NY, but we are just going to be too pumped, have too much intensity and energy for them to beat us, IMO.

I belive it was 24-0 at the half and the final score was 24-12. Tomlinson had about 35 yards total offense.

That being said, I could see us winning big (I think I went 31-17) but he has us with the highest spread in the league -- against a playoff team from last year.

Dr. Facebook Fever
09-07-2005, 03:05 PM
I hope he's right about us but if I didn't know better I'd swear the guy is known as "Big Chief Homer" on some message board...

Chiefs Pantalones
09-07-2005, 03:09 PM
I belive it was 24-0 at the half and the final score was 24-12. Tomlinson had about 35 yards total offense.

That being said, I could see us winning big (I think I went 31-17) but he has us with the highest spread in the league -- against a playoff team from last year.

Yeah, it is the highest spread, and the Jets were a playoff team last year, but every year is different for every team (except for the damn Patriots lol, although they could slip).

I hope either your score or Harmon's is right on. :)

Chiefs Pantalones
09-07-2005, 03:10 PM
i hope you are right!

Me too.

I can't wait for the game. I'm so pscyhed for it. I've been having dreams of it, lol.

keg in kc
09-07-2005, 03:12 PM
That's nuts.

Dave Lane
09-07-2005, 03:28 PM
Make sure no one posts this on ganggreen or Jets insider.com they might like cry or something :fire:

Dave

PS http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/5656846

StcChief
09-07-2005, 03:36 PM
I belive it was 24-0 at the half and the final score was 24-12. Tomlinson had about 35 yards total offense.

That being said, I could see us winning big (I think I went 31-17) but he has us with the highest spread in the league -- against a playoff team from last year.

I was there. Kept hearing LT called not for not much from Dolts,

I got a nice suntan at beautiful Arrowhead in that day.

I could see a repeat type game

Mr. Laz
09-07-2005, 03:48 PM
This guy is an expert. He obviously knows what he's talking about.

(Lexicon for talking head that picks Chiefs to win)
heh

the Talking Can
09-07-2005, 04:00 PM
hmmm

no way we run away from the Jet's like that unless Pennington gets injured

Denver will, unfortunetly, pound the 'Phins

Buffalo will not score 28 with a rookie QB

I'd like to see the Indy/Ravens game.

Big Slick
09-07-2005, 04:01 PM
Unfortunately, The Harmon Forecast has pretty much stunk it up the last few years. They weren't even hitting 60% last year. The Sagarin Ratings and The Huddle have an excellent track record, check them out if you want:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/nfl05.htm
http://www.thehuddlereport.com/

Fortunately, they both have us winning, too! The Huddle has us by 7, Sagarin has us basically a pick'em. Some of those Sagarin rankings look pretty suspect right now, though, at least to me (Tennessee at 11 and Miami at 12?? :bong: :eek: ), but his method always does well over the long haul. We'll see!

Bob Dole
09-07-2005, 04:54 PM
Vegas has KC -3.

(Vegas is over rated.)

HolmeZz
09-07-2005, 05:10 PM
I'll go with:

New England over Oakland
Washington over Chicago
Cincinnati over Cleveland
Denver over Miami
Buffalo over Houston
Carolina over New Orleans
New York Jets over Kansas City(covering my ass)
Jacksonville over Seattle
Minnesota over Tampa Bay
Pittsburgh over Tennessee
Arizona over New York Giants
Dallas over San Diego
Detroit over Green Bay
St. Louis over San Francisco
Baltimore over Indianapolis
Phildelphia over Atlanta

Cochise
09-07-2005, 05:34 PM
I could see it. Remember the game a couple years ago against the Chargers? Quite a few people were concerned about that game, like this one. Our defense wanted to prove that it was changed, and we allowed only 14 points.

Our defense, even in the last few years when it's been bad, has still been better at home.

Running some quick numbers, over the last 3 years our defense has averaged 20 PPG allowed at home, and 27.5 PPG on the road. So, at Arrowhead it's about a touchdown better.

KChiefs1
09-07-2005, 05:42 PM
me likey

HolmeZz
09-07-2005, 08:03 PM
What's the Harmon Forecast? Is it Mike Harmon? Because here http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/pickem he picked the Jets.

kc-nd
09-07-2005, 08:14 PM
Whatever the prediction, it doesn't matter ......

There are enough uncertainties going into the game, especially as it is the first game of the season (i.e., Green, offense effectiveness, right tackle, defensive line, Bell, Johnson, McLeon, Gunther on sideline, defense effectiveness).

I really wonder what we are going to see come Sunday - and can hardly wait for game time.

Everybody is so bold in their predictions, and yeah, out of all the guesses, someone is going to be right. But most will be wrong.

I guess that's why they play the games.

All I can say, is "bring it on!"