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memyselfI
09-08-2005, 08:42 PM
Hey, it's half time. :p

Guess those early polls indicating the Prez was going to be off the hook for Katrina might not have told the full story. The results of these polls are fascinating.

Including the following:

At the same time, Bush's overall job approval rating has slipped to 40% and his disapproval rating has climbed to 52%, among the highest for his presidency. Uncharacteristically, the president's ratings have slipped the most among his core constituents Republicans and conservatives.

The poll was done with 1000 adults from 9/6-9/7. Be sure to check out the differences in the perception of the looters between CNN and the other networks and Fox News. ROFL

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=255

http://people-press.org/reports/graphs/255.gif

HC_Chief
09-08-2005, 08:44 PM
100% polled said you're a complete f*cking moron.

Mr. Laz
09-08-2005, 08:53 PM
100% polled said you're a complete f*cking moron.
did someone say sumthin bad about your luvy dovy extra special Bushie friend?

i soooo sowwwy

Adept Havelock
09-08-2005, 09:08 PM
I have no wish to contribute to the exchange of pejoratives, but I thought you might all appreciate a link to the actual data being referenced above.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aRkZB.b60HiY&refer=u

memyselfI
09-08-2005, 09:10 PM
I have no wish to contribute to the exchange of pejoratives, but I thought you might all appreciate a link to the actual data being referenced above.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aRkZB.b60HiY&refer=u

Oh, that link contains the info on my database link and a Zogby one. Both bad news for W. Good work. :thumb:

http://people-press.org/reports/dis...p3?ReportID=255

Pitt Gorilla
09-08-2005, 09:18 PM
100% polled said you're a complete f*cking moron.
What does that have to do with her post? Seriously, she posted a link.

Mr. Laz
09-08-2005, 09:24 PM
What does that have to do with her post? Seriously, she posted a link.

she's on the conservatives most hated list ... they don't need any reason to cuss at her.

beavis
09-08-2005, 09:30 PM
she's on the conservatives most hated list ... they don't need any reason to cuss at her.
No, she supplies plenty on her own.

memyselfI
09-08-2005, 09:32 PM
she's on the conservatives most hated list ... they don't need any reason to cuss at her.

It's a dirty job but someone has to do it... :p ;)

headsnap
09-08-2005, 09:44 PM
file this under the 'no sh!+' catagory... :rolleyes:

Mr. Kotter
09-08-2005, 10:27 PM
"Could" have done more....duh. :rolleyes:

No shit, Sherlock. The point is, should he have been expected, reasonably, to do more.

That is all.

Logical
09-08-2005, 10:32 PM
I do not think this poll question results in a significant answer. You can always do better, the fact only 67% answered in the affirmative is sort of suprising.

Mr. Kotter
09-08-2005, 10:40 PM
I do not think this poll question results in a significant answer...

There it is; this thread can now be closed.

Jim is our resident expert on such things, as the author of many similar such polls. ;)

go bowe
09-08-2005, 10:59 PM
There it is; this thread can now be closed.

Jim is our resident expert on such things, as the author of many similar such polls. ;)well, bubber-roo...

why don't you just put up your own pole and see how long it stays up...

wait...

that didn't sound right somehow... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Mr. Kotter
09-08-2005, 11:08 PM
well, bubber-roo...

why don't you just put up your own pole and see how long it stays up...

wait...

that didn't sound right somehow... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I'll reiterate; I'm not interested in "poles," heh. :p

go bowe
09-08-2005, 11:11 PM
I'll reiterate; I'm not interested in "poles," heh. :pwell, you shouldn't knock it til you've... er, uh...

nevermind... :shake: :shake: :shake:

Taco John
09-09-2005, 01:15 AM
No shit, Sherlock. The point is, should he have been expected, reasonably, to do more.


And the obvious answer is "yes."

BigMeatballDave
09-09-2005, 01:26 AM
The numbers are in, and... YES! 100% polled says liberals are whiners... :p :D

penchief
09-09-2005, 06:01 AM
The numbers are in, and... YES! 100% polled says liberals are whiners... :p :D

Almost as bad as the conservatives whining about Clinton during the nineties..........almost.

Too bad the conservatives in congress and their minions didn't have anything important to whine about back then. Thanks to the horrible job this president has done and his misplaced priorities, the libs have a lot of ammunition when it comes to things that really matter.

It's also too bad that a lot of conservatives are so busy whining about whining that they are willing to ignore the merit behind the criticisms of this president's performance.

memyselfI
09-09-2005, 06:25 AM
Uh-oh, third poll in two days with bad news for the WH. That would be Pew, Zogby, and now AP. :D

FTR, the :D is that people are finally waking TFU and realizing the incompetence of this administration. The sad part is what it took for them to do it. :banghead: :cuss:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050909/ap_on_re_us/katrina_ap_poll_hk1;_ylt=Ar8pk4Mz9fuTRzt4xB_f9Fms0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY-

Poll: Most say abandon flooded New Orleans

By WILL LESTER
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

WASHINGTON -- More than half the people in this country say the flooded areas of New Orleans lying below sea level should be abandoned and rebuilt on higher ground.

An AP-Ipsos poll found that 54 percent of Americans want the four-fifths of New Orleans that was flooded by Hurricane Katrina moved to a safer location.

Their skepticism about restoring New Orleans below sea level comes as the public mood has darkened after one of the nation's worst natural disasters.

Almost two-thirds, 65 percent, say the country is headed in the wrong direction - up from 59 percent last month. President Bush's job approval was at 39 percent, the lowest point since AP-Ipsos began measuring public approval of Bush in December 2003.

Two-thirds of those surveyed say the federal government was not adequately prepared to respond to the disaster. And about the same number said the state and local governments deserve much of the blame for the slow response.

Despite their gloomy mood, people are donating to hurricane victims at record levels. Almost two-thirds in the poll say they have already given money.

The poll of 1,002 adults was taken Sept. 6-8 and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

memyselfI
09-09-2005, 06:36 AM
Make that four with the new CBS News poll. It looks like the numbers are becoming pretty consistent now. Only DUHbya's base (and Fox News viewers) seem to think the WH did enough and the response was sufficient.

Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush has handled the response to Hurricane Katrina?"

http://www.pollingreport.com/disasters.htm

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/0549af1a-20c8-11da-81ef-00000e2511c8.html

Bush’s leadership skills questioned, polls show
By Caroline Daniel in Washington
Published: September 9 2005 01:27 | Last updated: September 9 2005 01:27

George W. Bush on Thursday faced some of the worst poll results of his presidency, with a majority of Americans questioning his leadership skills and signs of a drop in support from core Republican voters.


While natural disasters usually boost political leaders, Mr Bush's initial response to Hurricane Katrina has led to the reverse.

According to a CBS News poll on Thursday, 48 per cent said he had strong leadership skills, his lowest rating to date, and far below his 83 per cent rating after September 11.

For a president who won a second term after campaigning on his strong leadership skills with 64 per cent approval in the election run-up the slide threatens to endanger his authority to rally voters behind unpopular parts of his second-term domestic agenda, such as social security reform.

A separate poll from the Pew Research Center also offered bleak reading. Polls have consistently shown that Mr Bush is a divisive leader, with approval falling on partisan lines. However, the September poll showed that his approval rating since July has fallen by 9 percentage points among Republicans.

Support from core religious groups also declined, with a nine-point fall in approval from white evangelicals and a 12-point drop from white Roman Catholics, a group that Mr Bush has been trying to woo.


Andrew Ward, Atlanta bureau chief for the Financial Times, writes an online diary from the roadways and towns of Mississippi in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.


In spite of the fall from supporters, 79 per cent of Republicans still approve of Mr Bush. Whit Ayres, president of Ayres, McHenry and Associates, a Republican polling company, said: “That is not surprising after the roughest two weeks of his presidency. What is surprising is that eight out of 10 still approve of him.”

Addressing criticism, Mr Bush this week stepped up his public efforts with a series of initiatives, including seeking $51.8bn in disaster aid, which was approved by the House on Thursday, and giving aid to states that have been bearing the burden of the evacuees. He also announced plans to grant $2,000 in emergency relief to each affected household.

The opinion polls all showed Mr Bush at approval ratings between 40 and 42 per cent, in line with previous data. Mr Ayres said: “All presidents have had approval ratings at some point below 40 per cent except George Bush. His nadir is still higher than any other president, including his father and BillClinton.”

The Pew poll also pointed to a subtler change in voters' priorities after Hurricane Katrina. It found that 56 per cent thought domestic policy which typically favours Democrats was now their chief priority, rather than the war on terror, which had previously bolstered Mr Bush.

Andrew Kohut, director of Pew, said the poll also suggested that racial issues could become a higher political priority. “Seven out of 10 blacks say the disaster shows that racial inequality remains a major problem in the country; a majority of whites, 56 per cent, say this was not a particularly important lesson.”

mlyonsd
09-09-2005, 07:26 AM
I'm not exactly sure how "could have been done better" is that significant of a question.

Serious, I don't care who is president when a disaster strikes and 1 million people are displaced. Things could always have been done better, in all categories.

But hey, if it makes you feel better about your political position then go ahead and post it.

memyselfI
09-09-2005, 07:42 AM
I'm not exactly sure how "could have been done better" is that significant of a question.

Serious, I don't care who is president when a disaster strikes and 1 million people are displaced. Things could always have been done better, in all categories.

But hey, if it makes you feel better about your political position then go ahead and post it.

Agreed.

And that number in a vaccum would not mean much and shouldn't bring much dispair to the WH. But taken in context with the diminishing confidence in the WH concerning Iraq, the economy, gas prices, etc. they seemed to have missed an opportunity to show leadership and resolve in the time of a national crisis...similiar to what they showed for 9/11.

Instead, the perception is they are unprepared and out of sorts. Combine that with the perception of that being their strategy in Iraq and the WH undoubtedly feels stung by the polls and their missed opportunity.

Brock
09-09-2005, 07:42 AM
The federal government is good at a couple of things. Taking people's money, and spending it. Other than that, they have and always will suck at everything else.

StcChief
09-09-2005, 07:47 AM
The federal government is good at a couple of things. Taking people's money, and spending it. Other than that, they have and always will suck at everything else.

All you have to do is look at or talk to a typical Gov't employee to see why this true.

It starts at local/state level and gets progressively worse.

Tax collectors/assessors - Local

DMV - State

SSA - Fed

No surprise that FEMA is F'up.

gblowfish
09-09-2005, 09:11 AM
Hey, Bush is doing exactly what he promised for the people who put him in power. You get what you pay for, eloquently explained in this column from that gender bending, tree hugging, socialist fish wrap rag (to use neocon speak, of course) the San Francisco Chronicle:
http://sfgate.com/columnists/morford/

Adept Havelock
09-09-2005, 05:58 PM
Situation Normal, All FEMA'd Up.