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KingPriest2
09-12-2005, 08:13 AM
Ii is early with only being one game
With exep to MNF the Chiefs are 25th in giving up yards 390

Y/P 23rd
FDs 20th
3rd % 28th
TF 1st
L 1st
Points allowed 7th
Rushing 6th
Avg 6th
Pass D 30th
Pass Comp % 19
Sacks 10th

Chiefnj
09-12-2005, 08:14 AM
Points against and rushing yards are all that matter.

Rausch
09-12-2005, 08:14 AM
With exep to MNF the Chiefs are 2th in giving up yards 390

Y/P 23rd
FDs 20th
3rd % 28th
TF 1st
L 1st
Points allowed 7th
Rushing 6th
Avg 6th
Pass D 30th
Pass Comp % 19
Sacks 10th

I went ahead and put the only stat that matters in bold...

jspchief
09-12-2005, 08:16 AM
Where do we rank in scoring D?

Obviously the pass D still has holes. But remember, we played all game without our #2 CB (Warfield) and half the game without our #1 CB and a starting DT. Plus, we took more of a "prevent" approach to D in the second half, giving up the short and intermediate passes in an effort to avoid the deep ones.

Gaz
09-12-2005, 08:16 AM
Since points are the only criterion for victory, I am quite content with yesterday’s performance.

xoxo~
Gaz
Has the proper level of disdain for statistics with a sample size of 1.

dirk digler
09-12-2005, 08:20 AM
We are ranked 7th right now in total O.

1. Miami ROFL
2. Pittsburgh
3. Cincinnati
4. St. Louis
5. Baltimore :eek:
6. Jets
7. Chiefs

I don't quite get how Baltimore had alot of yards last night. They looked horrible.

Rausch
09-12-2005, 08:20 AM
Since points are the only criterion for victory, I am quite content with yesterday’s performance.

xoxo~
Gaz
Has the proper level of disdain for statistics with a sample size of 1.


Considering we allowed less pts than the Pats, Steelers, and Ravens.

Yeah, not a bad day...

Saulbadguy
09-12-2005, 08:24 AM
Teams that allowed over 100 yards rushing = 2-12
Teams that allowed over 300 yards passing = 3-1
Teams that held opponents to under 100 yards rushing = 13-3

KCChiefsMan
09-12-2005, 08:24 AM
I'll take that ranking on D if we allow an average of 7 points per game

jspchief
09-12-2005, 08:28 AM
Teams that allowed over 100 yards rushing = 2-12
Teams that allowed over 300 yards passing = 3-1
Teams that held opponents to under 100 yards rushing = 13-3Great set of stats.

KingPriest2
09-12-2005, 08:32 AM
Teams that allowed over 100 yards rushing = 2-12
Teams that allowed over 300 yards passing = 3-1
Teams that held opponents to under 100 yards rushing = 13-3


I have been paying att to that for the last couple of years. It always works out that way.

KingPriest2
09-12-2005, 08:32 AM
I'll take that ranking on D if we allow an average of 7 points per game

Same here

the Talking Can
09-12-2005, 08:34 AM
Teams that allowed over 100 yards rushing = 2-12
Teams that allowed over 300 yards passing = 3-1
Teams that held opponents to under 100 yards rushing = 13-3

excellent.....stop the run, all else will fall into place

jynni
09-12-2005, 08:37 AM
25th > 31st

ptlyon
09-12-2005, 08:39 AM
25th > 31st

27 > 7

petegz28
09-12-2005, 08:41 AM
Screw Yards! I don't give a rat's ass about yard! You can run up and down the field all you want. If you aren't scoring it don't mean shit!

Gaz
09-12-2005, 08:44 AM
Screw Yards! I don't give a rat's ass about yard! You can run up and down the field all you want. If you aren't scoring it don't mean shit!

Sans the intecourse, rodent, anal and fecal references, of course.

xoxo~
Gaz
Cares about points and CRUSHING the pencil-neck, not total yards.

Ari Chi3fs
09-12-2005, 08:44 AM
The Jets were in teh Red Zone 5-6 times yesterday... once we play a team that can score in the redzone, it might not look so rosey.

Not trying to piss on the parade, because Im as excited as anyone... but the jets killed themselves quite a bit, and if Laverneass Coles doesnt go dropsie on those sure TD's... then this game is a different story.

ptlyon
09-12-2005, 08:45 AM
The Jets were in teh Red Zone 5-6 times yesterday... once we play a team that can score in the redzone, it might not look so rosey.

Not trying to piss on the parade, because Im as excited as anyone... but the jets killed themselves quite a bit, and if Laverneass Coles doesnt go dropsie on those sure TD's... then this game is a different story.

I totally agree.


Teh Rep.

stevieray
09-12-2005, 08:47 AM
The Jets were in teh Red Zone 5-6 times yesterday... once we play a team that can score in the redzone, it might not look so rosey.

Not trying to piss on the parade, because Im as excited as anyone... but the jets killed themselves quite a bit, and if Laverneass Coles doesnt go dropsie on those sure TD's... then this game is a different story.

Key word is IF.

Bowser
09-12-2005, 08:47 AM
We're doomdeded.

Chief Faithful
09-12-2005, 08:57 AM
The Jets were in teh Red Zone 5-6 times yesterday... once we play a team that can score in the redzone, it might not look so rosey.

Not trying to piss on the parade, because Im as excited as anyone... but the jets killed themselves quite a bit, and if Laverneass Coles doesnt go dropsie on those sure TD's... then this game is a different story.

True, but not bad for a first game for a re-constucted defense. I fully expect Gun's defense to get better and better as the confidence grows, pride increases, and play is fine tuned.

I don't expect to see everything this defense can be until game 5 or 6. For example, DJ looked awesome, but I'm sure his game is going to grow leaps and bounds as he reduces rookie mistakes.

Area 51
09-12-2005, 09:14 AM
The Jets were in teh Red Zone 5-6 times yesterday... once we play a team that can score in the redzone, it might not look so rosey.

Not trying to piss on the parade, because Im as excited as anyone... but the jets killed themselves quite a bit, and if Laverneass Coles doesnt go dropsie on those sure TD's... then this game is a different story.

I would guess that you feel that the defense had nothing to do with the lack of scoring by the Jets in the Red Zone.

It sounds like you've given up on the team before the season gets underway.

If you watched the preseason you might have noticed that the defense improved (1st quarter) each of the games as they went. I see no reason that they will not continue to get better as the games progress.

Area 51
09-12-2005, 09:15 AM
We're doomdeded.

If you listen to these guys you might deduce that very point!

BigChiefFan
09-12-2005, 09:17 AM
Points scored is what matters. Our D kicked ass yesterday.

philfree
09-12-2005, 09:20 AM
Let's not forget that we played most of the game without a starting DT and what will be our two starting CBs. Our pass D wasn't all full strength. Right now the rankings don't mean diddly poo to us. Th Chiefs just have to find away to survive the next three weeks then hopefully we'll have Suratin, Warfield and Sims all in the game and our pass D and overall D will be better.

PhilFree:arrow:

Dave Lane
09-12-2005, 09:21 AM
Teams that allowed over 100 yards rushing = 2-12
Teams that allowed over 300 yards passing = 3-1
Teams that held opponents to under 100 yards rushing = 13-3


Thats the stats I'm talking about...

Dave

Warrior5
09-12-2005, 09:34 AM
Th Chiefs just have to find away to survive the next three weeks then hopefully we'll have Suratin, Warfield and Sims all in the game and our pass D and overall D will be better.

I'd say the unjuries to Surtain and Sims have the biggest potential impact, but then again, I'm a D homer. The Chiefs will need Surtain desperately against the Raiduhs. McMe-owned and Washington won't cut it, especially if our F4 aren't getting in Collins' face (which is why Sims is crucial).


...taking this season one game at a time.

htismaqe
09-12-2005, 09:58 AM
The Chiefs, according to the number that matters most:

8th

2.5 yards per carry

jcl-kcfan2
09-12-2005, 10:32 AM
Maybe I am wrong here, but it looks like the Chief's Defense is tied for 2nd in the league for points allowed, not 7th.

Calcountry
09-12-2005, 10:39 AM
We are ranked 7th right now in total O.

1. Miami ROFL
2. Pittsburgh
3. Cincinnati
4. St. Louis
5. Baltimore :eek:
6. Jets
7. Chiefs

I don't quite get how Baltimore had alot of yards last night. They looked horrible.They moved the ball, just missed all the field goals because they don't have our studly redzone offense.

Yet another reason to abolish the Field goals all together.

Field Goals make coaches reach for the Cialis.

Calcountry
09-12-2005, 10:41 AM
excellent.....stop the run, all else will fall into placeThe tackling was much, much better yesterday than last year. They were meeting the ballcarier SQUARE up, and flattening them.

PastorMikH
09-12-2005, 11:50 AM
I can't help but think that if Surtain had played the entire game, our total yards and total D would have been higher. When he went out they started moving the ball more through the air.

Cochise
09-12-2005, 11:53 AM
We're 7th.

Points allowed is the only stat that matters.

go bowe
09-12-2005, 12:05 PM
Teams that allowed over 100 yards rushing = 2-12
Teams that allowed over 300 yards passing = 3-1
Teams that held opponents to under 100 yards rushing = 13-3ok, i'm not too sure here, but aren't there only 32 teams in the nfl?

2+12+3+1+13+3=34, doesn't it?

did some teams win AND loose (cp spelling) the same game?

AndChiefs
09-12-2005, 12:08 PM
I would say the thing to remember here is that it is unimportant how many yards we gave up. When a team is playing from behind they are going to be gaining a lot of yards throwing trying to find some way to get back in the game. While this leads to more yards at the end of the game it also leads to more mistakes which was evident in the play of the jets throughout the game.

go bowe
09-12-2005, 12:09 PM
We're 7th.

Points allowed is the only stat that matters.yeah, but our points allowed is skewed because the jets got into our red zone like what, 7 times?

and only scored one touchdown?

imo, that was due in large part to the fact that chadbaby couldn't hold onto the ball...

coles also couldn't hang onto the ball...

take away their turnovers, drops and missed fg's, and they score maybe 7 times...

well, maybe only 5 times - our d looked pretty good down by the goal line most of the time...

htismaqe
09-12-2005, 12:09 PM
ok, i'm not too sure here, but aren't there only 32 teams in the nfl?

2+12+3+1+13+3=34, doesn't it?

did some teams win AND loose (cp spelling) the same game?

You got duped by the middle "passing" stat.

14 teams allowed over 100 yards rushing and 2 of them won. (2-12)

16 teams allowed under 100 yards rushing and 13 of them won. (13-3)

That's a total of 30.

Two teams play tonight.

go bowe
09-12-2005, 12:23 PM
The Chiefs, according to the number that matters most:

8th

2.5 yards per carryyeah, i agree that's the best indicator for the quality of the run defense and 2.5 yards for a team with curtis martin, is amazing...

i think the run d might be ok now... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

go bowe
09-12-2005, 12:28 PM
I would say the thing to remember here is that it is unimportant how many yards we gave up. When a team is playing from behind they are going to be gaining a lot of yards throwing trying to find some way to get back in the game. While this leads to more yards at the end of the game it also leads to more mistakes which was evident in the play of the jets throughout the game.excellent point...

and btw, welcome aboard... :toast:

(pay no mind to the old grumps, it's really a great place...)

Amnorix
09-12-2005, 12:30 PM
I'll never understand the fascination with raw yardage.

Stats that matter:

Points per game
Yards per carry
Completion percentage
Yards per pass attempt
Turnovers caused
Third down conversion percentage

Stats that don't matter: Total yards passing per game. Total yards rushing per game. Total yards per game. These are worthless stats. They tell you just about nothing.

go bowe
09-12-2005, 12:31 PM
You got duped by the middle "passing" stat.

14 teams allowed over 100 yards rushing and 2 of them won. (2-12)

16 teams allowed under 100 yards rushing and 13 of them won. (13-3)

That's a total of 30.

Two teams play tonight.i just knew there was a reason i don't like statistics... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

go bowe
09-12-2005, 12:36 PM
I'll never understand the fascination with raw yardage.

Stats that matter:

Points per game
Yards per carry
Completion percentage
Yards per pass attempt
Turnovers caused
Third down conversion percentage

Stats that don't matter: Total yards passing per game. Total yards rushing per game. Total yards per game. These are worthless stats. They tell you just about nothing.i just was wondering if rix is anything like several stacks of straw...

mmmmm...

anyway, yep...

you're right...

*ducks for cover (for agreeing with a libby)*

Bob Dole
09-12-2005, 12:43 PM
Stats that don't matter: Total yards passing per game. Total yards rushing per game. Total yards per game. These are worthless stats. They tell you just about nothing.

Bob Dole would argue that you won't see a lot of winners week-to-week who have fewer than 60 yards rushing...

StcChief
09-12-2005, 12:44 PM
At this point who cares. 27-7. Great point about 2nd half giving up short yards.

Bend not break.

Sam
09-12-2005, 12:48 PM
The best thing about the Chiefs D for me was the Jets 69 yard drive that ended on the Chiefs 2 when they ran out of downs.

Goal line stand!

KingPriest2
09-12-2005, 01:01 PM
At this point who cares. 27-7. Great point about 2nd half giving up short yards.

Bend not break.


2003 D

Opening Day 2003 held LT to 34 yards

Team at 3.6 avg

KC Kings
09-12-2005, 01:08 PM
Since points are the only criterion for victory, I am quite content with yesterday’s performance.

xoxo~
Gaz
Has the proper level of disdain for statistics with a sample size of 1.


True, but was the points against collumn that low because of the deffense, or because of Coles' 2 dropped TD passes, 6 Pennington fumbles and a left foot being asleep during a field goal try?

AndChiefs
09-12-2005, 01:09 PM
Thanks for the welcome, I've perused and posted a bit on a few other Chiefs sites for awhile. Oddly enough had never found this one though. Look forward to reading and posting every once in awhile.

I saw someone post "bend not break" a few posts ago, (sorry dont' remember who) that is exactly the phrase that continued passing through my mind as I watched this game. Thanks for that.

Wallcrawler
09-12-2005, 02:17 PM
Points allowed is really all that matters, and right now, the Chiefs defense is in the top 10.

Without Surtain and Sims for 3/4 of the game and with Warfield out on suspension.

Pretty good showing.

The 4 takeaways, 3 sacks, and a stand on downs at the 3 yard line were nice too.