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Chiefs Pantalones
09-12-2005, 09:43 AM
Are they really that bad, or was the Miami game just a fluke?

ArrowheadHawk
09-12-2005, 09:44 AM
i think they are really that bad

penguinz
09-12-2005, 09:45 AM
They are also like the chiefs in that they can never win in Miami.

Mr. Kotter
09-12-2005, 09:45 AM
They suck? :shrug:




At least they did yesterday.... :p

foxman
09-12-2005, 09:46 AM
They are also like the chiefs in that they can never win in Miami.

Not winning is one thing....getting spanked by Gus Frerott is...well thats almost embarrasing.

MichaelH
09-12-2005, 09:47 AM
I can't remember where I heard it, but some sports nerd had Denver finishing last in the AFC West. I think a few things factored in. It was hot and muggy and the QB sucks. I'll wait until after we play them in 2 weeks before I say they're really bad.

Taco John
09-12-2005, 09:47 AM
We have historically played terrible in Florida.

the Talking Can
09-12-2005, 09:47 AM
they had really bad weather....no one could overcome that kind of weather....

the Talking Can
09-12-2005, 09:48 AM
We have historically played terrible in Florida.

and you have historically made lame excuses

ArrowheadHawk
09-12-2005, 09:48 AM
if we spank them in week three then we will know if they suck or not

Mr. Laz
09-12-2005, 09:49 AM
i think they bought into the hype about how bad Miami was and came in lazy.

Gaz
09-12-2005, 09:50 AM
They are not as bad at losing 34-10 to [giggle] Miami would indicate. They are also not as good as the pundits and an undefeated preseason would indicate. They have serious problems at QB & RB, and that is going to kill them in the long run, IMO.

Still, that will not stop me from guffawing uproariously that the lost to [giggle] Miami 34-10.

xoxo~
Gaz
Happy, happy guy.

Skip Towne
09-12-2005, 09:50 AM
they had really bad weather....no one could overcome that kind of weather....
Yeah, listening to the Donx whine about the weather is hilarious.

NewChief
09-12-2005, 09:53 AM
they had really bad weather....no one could overcome that kind of weather....

They were further handicapped by the Tags-led conspiracy that forced them to don dark uniforms in such horrific conditions.

Taco John
09-12-2005, 09:54 AM
and you have historically made lame excuses


Any excuse is lame. I'm just responding to the question. Florida is a hard place for our team to play. History has beared that out.

And as far as that goes, I think Plummer is really that bad. I've made absolutely zero excuses for him.

morphius
09-12-2005, 09:59 AM
Any excuse is lame. I'm just responding to the question. Florida is a hard place for our team to play. History has beared that out.

And as far as that goes, I think Plummer is really that bad. I've made absolutely zero excuses for him.
Well, its been a while since you did make an excuse for Jake, just took you a while to figure out what we were all right about.

Chiefs Pantalones
09-12-2005, 09:59 AM
Yeah, I won't say they are that bad. It was only one week. There were lots of surprises yesterday. I wouldn't say the Jets were that bad, I bet they'll be there in the end. Same with Carolina, Rams (week division). I think. I mean, I don't know for sure, no one does, but if I were a fan of a losing team yesterday I wouldn't be concerned, it was just one week. If it were the playoffs or the Super Bowl for each losing team yesterday, then I would be ticked.

I don't think the Denvers, the Jets, and the Carolinas of the league are going to go away easily, but I hope I'm wrong...

Andoverer
09-12-2005, 09:59 AM
Speaking of playing in Miami, have those guys EVER come to Arrowhead in the last two decades? It seems we always play them there

Mile High Mania
09-12-2005, 10:00 AM
and you have historically made lame excuses

It sounds lame, but they just don't seem capable of winning in Florida... Miami, Jacksonville... it just hasn't happened in a long time for whatever reasons.

I don't know what the issues are, but I'll hold off and see how the next few weeks go before I write off the season.

Mile High Mania
09-12-2005, 10:00 AM
Well, its been a while since you did make an excuse for Jake, just took you a while to figure out what we were all right about.

One week doesn't make you right...

Skip Towne
09-12-2005, 10:01 AM
Speaking of playing in Miami, have those guys EVER come to Arrowhead in the last two decades? It seems we always play them there
Yes, we pounded the shit out of Miami at Arrowhead a couple of years ago.

Taco John
09-12-2005, 10:02 AM
Well, its been a while since you did make an excuse for Jake, just took you a while to figure out what we were all right about.



I don't know what you're talking about. I've been off the Jake bandwagon for almost a full year now. I'm despised by some on the Mane for my criticism of Plummer.

Mile High Mania
09-12-2005, 10:06 AM
I don't know what you're talking about. I've been off the Jake bandwagon for almost a full year now. I'm despised by some on the Mane for my criticism of Plummer.

Plummer made some errors, but it's not like Lelie, Putz and company didn't have their share of drops. Lelie pulled up on the one long pass in the first half that was a sure TD.

I was surprised that Anderson had nothing prior to getting hurt, then aside from Bell's first run, he certainly didn't look like much. Rod, as usual, was the only form of consistency.

Bailey looked good prior to getting hurt... and at times the Dline looked tough. We'll see how it unfolds the next few weeks.

Area 51
09-12-2005, 10:06 AM
Yeah, listening to the Donx whine about the weather is hilarious.

It seems as if the weather was the same for both teams. Why would Taco whine? Excuses are the game of the day for Denver.

Mile High Mania
09-12-2005, 10:08 AM
It seems as if the weather was the same for both teams. Why would Taco whine? Excuses are the game of the day for Denver.

I'm not using the weather as an excuse... Denver has a similar advantage at home with the altitude. Shit happens and yesterday it hit an industrial sized fan on the Denver sideline.

Area 51
09-12-2005, 10:08 AM
I don't know what you're talking about. I've been off the Jake bandwagon for almost a full year now. I'm despised by some on the Mane for my criticism of Plummer.

ALMOST a year? I guess that vindicates your previous comments.

ROFL

Taco John
09-12-2005, 10:09 AM
Plummer made some errors, but it's not like Lelie, Putz and company didn't have their share of drops. Lelie pulled up on the one long pass in the first half that was a sure TD.



I agree... But it's not like Jake wasn't awful, especially during the first quarter.

Taco John
09-12-2005, 10:10 AM
ALMOST a year? I guess that vindicates your previous comments.

ROFL


Which comments are those?

BCD
09-12-2005, 10:10 AM
Speaking of playing in Miami, have those guys EVER come to Arrowhead in the last two decades? It seems we always play them there'91 and '02. Both times they got their ass handed to them...

Mile High Mania
09-12-2005, 10:10 AM
Again, it's only one week... all it takes is a Denver win vs the Chargers in Denver next week and a KC loss at Oakland and all is right in the world again.

morphius
09-12-2005, 10:11 AM
Really, this is all just Shanahan using Plummers inability to secure the first overall pick in next years draft so that the donkies can draft Matt Leinart.

Mile High Mania
09-12-2005, 10:11 AM
I agree... But it's not like Jake wasn't awful, especially during the first quarter.

We'll see how it goes... some of the cries for Van Pelt to start make me chuckle. I read some stuff from fans about VP having more heart and being able to lead the team. That makes me chuckle...

Taco John
09-12-2005, 10:13 AM
It seems as if the weather was the same for both teams. Why would Taco whine? Excuses are the game of the day for Denver.


I'm not whining about the weather. I'm just stating what it was, and complaining that our offense wasn't good enough to keep our defense off of the 115 degree field for 12 of the 15 minutes in the quarter. I'm not suprised they melted down in those conditions.

I put it on our offense, not the weather. But I disregard any opinions of people who don't think the weather factored in. Those people are dumb****s.

Andoverer
09-12-2005, 10:14 AM
Again, it's only one week... all it takes is a Denver win vs the Chargers in Denver next week and a KC loss at Oakland and all is right in the world again.

Pipe down. We don't want to hear that sordid stuff around here :shake:

Mile High Mania
09-12-2005, 10:14 AM
I'm not whining about the weather. I'm just stating what it was, and complaining that our offense wasn't good enough to keep our defense off of the 115 degree field for 12 of the 15 minutes in the quarter. I'm not suprised they melted down in those conditions.

I put it on our offense, not the weather. But I disregard any opinions of people who don't think the weather factored in. Those people are dumb****s.

I just vote for no more games in Florida.

Mile High Mania
09-12-2005, 10:15 AM
Pipe down. We don't want to hear that sordid stuff around here :shake:

Ha... :p

Area 51
09-12-2005, 10:15 AM
Which comments are those?

I wasn't the one saying that I was praising the Plumber, you were. I just moved on what you said. If you don't remember I'm sure you can find someone that cares enough to dig them up.

Area 51
09-12-2005, 10:17 AM
I'm not whining about the weather. I'm just stating what it was, and complaining that our offense wasn't good enough to keep our defense off of the 115 degree field for 12 of the 15 minutes in the quarter. I'm not suprised they melted down in those conditions.

I put it on our offense, not the weather. But I disregard any opinions of people who don't think the weather factored in. Those people are dumb****s.

Did they turn on the AC for Miami? The weather is an equal opportunity occurance. Everyone gets to suffer from the effect of it.

By your reasoning the Miami offense should have been dying from the amount of time they were on the field.

Taco John
09-12-2005, 10:18 AM
I wasn't the one saying that I was praising the Plumber, you were. I just moved on what you said. If you don't remember I'm sure you can find someone that cares enough to dig them up.



I didn't figure you for someone who knew what they were talking about, or had the conviction to back up what they said.

Calcountry
09-12-2005, 10:19 AM
Speaking of playing in Miami, have those guys EVER come to Arrowhead in the last two decades? It seems we always play them thereYes, we played them at Arrowhead right after the Cleveland game, where the dumass took off his helmet. Was that 2001, or 2002?

morphius
09-12-2005, 10:20 AM
I don't know what you're talking about. I've been off the Jake bandwagon for almost a full year now. I'm despised by some on the Mane for my criticism of Plummer.
Yes, but as you often like to claim that one of your thousand predictions came true, it is nice to see that I was right about Jake Plummer sucking, even though it took you a couple years longer to realize it.

Calcountry
09-12-2005, 10:20 AM
I'm despised by some on the Mane for my criticism of Plummer.They probably tell you to Keep Fing doubting Plummer eh?

Taco John
09-12-2005, 10:20 AM
By your reasoning the Miami offense should have been dying from the amount of time they were on the field.


They were. Except that they're better acclimated for it, as they practice in it. They really struggled until the end of the third quarter, when our defense finally collapsed under the weight of the conditions and injury. Our offense had no answer for their defense either.

Area 51
09-12-2005, 10:20 AM
I didn't figure you for someone who knew what they were talking about, or had the conviction to back up what they said.

Right back at ya TJ, you are the one that said:

Quote: <HR SIZE=1>Originally Posted by Taco John
I don't know what you're talking about. I've been off the Jake bandwagon for almost a full year now. I'm despised by some on the Mane for my criticism of Plummer. <HR SIZE=1>

Before you were critical what were you doing? Still singing the praises of Griese? Elway?

These were your comments and shown as you typed them.

Taco John
09-12-2005, 10:21 AM
Yes, but as you often like to claim that one of your thousand predictions came true, it is nice to see that I was right about Jake Plummer sucking, even though it took you a couple years longer to realize it.


Thousand predictions? I don't make that many predictions. It's just that people like you aren't real solid on the definition of a prediction.

Taco John
09-12-2005, 10:24 AM
Right back at ya TJ, you are the one that said:

Quote: <HR SIZE=1>Originally Posted by Taco John
I don't know what you're talking about. I've been off the Jake bandwagon for almost a full year now. I'm despised by some on the Mane for my criticism of Plummer. <HR SIZE=1>

Before you were critical what were you doing? Still singing the praises of Griese? Elway?

These were your comments and shown as you typed them.



Like I said... I didn't figure you to be someone who knew what they were talking about or had the conviction to back up what they said.

You're just guessing and you're not even close. You're a lightweight, and I'm done with you. If I'm going to be called on something from the big boys here, I'll respond to it. They know what they're doing and how to get it done. You're not worth my time.

Area 51
09-12-2005, 10:48 AM
Like I said... I didn't figure you to be someone who knew what they were talking about or had the conviction to back up what they said.

You're just guessing and you're not even close. You're a lightweight, and I'm done with you. If I'm going to be called on something from the big boys here, I'll respond to it. They know what they're doing and how to get it done. You're not worth my time.

So you are denying that you ever said that Plumber was the second coming of Elway or anything to that effect?

Big boys? You seem to be confusing the whether I chose to look for additional information to make you look stupid and/or arogant. You see, you are a denver fan and not worth the effort.

If I needed your approval for anything it would be a cold day in hell or a hot one in Miami that I could complain about!!!!! ROFLROFLROFLROFL

Gaz
09-12-2005, 11:16 AM
First, let’s get the partisan stuff out of the way:
BWAH HA HA HAAAAAAA! Broncos suck! Losers! Shannahan’s a moron!

Ah, that felt good.

Moving on.

I do not think that Denver is as inept a team as yesterday would suggest. I do believe that Plummer is quite capable of being precisely that inept at a moment’s notice, but he will also make some good plays for you. The question is always where the average will fall. Yesterday, Bonehead Plummer won the day. As long as Plummer is Shannahan’s QB, Denver will have problems with consistency. No smack intended. Really.

The lack of a running game should be very troubling for Denver fans. RB has gone from a perennial Denver strength to a serious weakness. Anderson’s injury is just icing on the cake. Big problems here, IMO.

I do not think as highly of Bailey as some folks, but any time your starting CB has a shoulder injury, you are looking down the barrel of another big problem.

Yesterday, all the bad stuff hit at once and Miami rolled it up on the hapless Broncos [much to the unabashed glee of the Red & Gold faithful]. Feces happens. It would be a mistake to judge the Broncos by yesterday’s debacle. They have some serious holes, but they are better than they showed in Miami.

xoxo~
Gaz
Not taking the Predominantly Orange lightly.

Chiefs Pantalones
09-12-2005, 11:18 AM
I hope it isn't 76 degrees next week in Oakland when we play. Hopefully it's 74 or 77.

The Chiefs never play well when it's 76 degrees outside.

Mile High Mania
09-12-2005, 11:25 AM
I hope it isn't 76 degrees next week in Oakland when we play. Hopefully it's 74 or 77.

The Chiefs never play well when it's 76 degrees outside.

Now, that's comical...

Rausch
09-12-2005, 11:26 AM
Thousand predictions? I don't make that many predictions. It's just that people like you aren't real solid on the definition of a prediction.

I'd say the good news for you is that it looks like Priest did finally lose his "burst."

The bad news would be that LJ picked it up, polished it off, and carried it for over 100 yards and an insane YPC average...

Chiefs Pantalones
09-12-2005, 11:27 AM
Now, that's comical...

:)

Get over your loss, and go beat up on the Chargers...

Actually, both of you beat up on each other... :p

Mile High Mania
09-12-2005, 11:28 AM
:)

Get over your loss, and go beat up on the Chargers...

Actually, both of you beat up on each other... :p

I'm over it and actually thought your comment was funny.

Chiefs Pantalones
09-12-2005, 11:30 AM
I'm over it and actually thought your comment was funny.

Why thank you, MHM.

I...um...

love you.

stumppy
09-12-2005, 11:39 AM
Thousand predictions? I don't make that many predictions. It's just that people like you aren't real solid on the definition of a prediction.


Predictions......opinions..........either one.:D


They make for great quotes.:p


Oh yea, thanks for the new sig line.:thumb:ROFL:evil:

Braincase
09-12-2005, 11:40 AM
It's the Denver Curse... first it was John, then Bob, and now Mike

InChiefsHell
09-12-2005, 11:45 AM
Is Jake Dumber still sporting the 70's porn star look? Maybe that's the problem...'sept he was sucking (no pun intended...?) before then so...

Eye Patch
09-12-2005, 11:57 AM
and at times the Dline looked tough. .

WHAT??????

The donk dog pound rejects looked like crap... the donks blitzed on about every down during the game to hide their failed attempts at pass rushing... you know the reason why you brought all of those losers in.

And where were all of those world class LB’s we always hear about in donkville… leaving little Chump Bailout to take on a 230 lbs running back on a sweep. The laws of physics finally caught up with him.

Mile High Mania
09-12-2005, 12:03 PM
WHAT?????

The donk dog pound rejects looked like crap... the donks blitzed on about every down during the game to hide their failed attempts at pass rushing... you know the reason why you brought all of those losers in.

And where were all of those world class LB’s we always hear about in donkville… leaving little Chump Bailout to take on a 230 lbs running back on a sweep. The laws of physics finally caught up with him.

You're right... I have no idea what I was thinking. All is lost and Denver should just forfeit the season...

Area 51
09-12-2005, 12:05 PM
Too many piled on TJ and now he is gone!!!

You are penalized 3 beers each this evening - that's add three more beers for piling on!!

MHM, -3 for defending a bad defense on a bad team.

Mile High Mania
09-12-2005, 12:07 PM
Too many piled on TJ and now he is gone!!!

You are penalized 3 beers each this evening - that's add three more beers for piling on!!

MHM, -3 for defending a bad defense on a bad team.

One game... we'll see what happens next.

Eye Patch
09-12-2005, 12:07 PM
You're right... I have no idea what I was thinking. All is lost and Denver should just forfeit the season...

So seriously .... Why the constant blitzing? I thought the new front four was gonna give you all the pressure you needed…. And you blitzed numerous times before the secondary players started dropping like flies.

Also it looks like time and rule changes have finally caught up with the donk o-line.

Mile High Mania
09-12-2005, 12:13 PM
So seriously .... Why the constant blitzing? I thought the new front four was gonna give you all the pressure you needed…. And you blitzed numerous times before the secondary players started dropping like flies.

Also it looks like time and rule changes have finally caught up with the donk o-line.

I don't have Coyer's cell number or I'd ask why they blitzed so much. Only think I can imagine is they thought they could rattle Gus with a rookie runner. I don't know.

Regarding the oline ... maybe time has caught up to them, but I'll wait until I see how they do next week vs the Chargers and in week 3 vs the Chiefs prior to freaking out.

Chief Faithful
09-12-2005, 12:31 PM
I hope it isn't 76 degrees next week in Oakland when we play. Hopefully it's 74 or 77.

The Chiefs never play well when it's 76 degrees outside.
:clap: ROFL

Well Done! :clap:

Chief Faithful
09-12-2005, 12:35 PM
Also it looks like time and rule changes have finally caught up with the donk o-line.

Just watch the game tonight and you'll see where the donk oline went.






Without Alex Gibbs it seems the Shanarat scheme is loosing it's "genious".

Area 51
09-12-2005, 12:40 PM
One game... we'll see what happens next.

If you are truly hardcore you will give them more than one game. I don't like denver...they are toast!

Lzen
09-12-2005, 01:32 PM
Speaking of playing in Miami, have those guys EVER come to Arrowhead in the last two decades? It seems we always play them there

Yes, 1991 and 2002. But we've gone down there about 5 times as much.
:shake:

Dr. Facebook Fever
09-12-2005, 01:34 PM
We have historically played terrible in Florida.
...that and the fact that you're now the ex-Browns

Mile High Mania
09-12-2005, 01:50 PM
Just watch the game tonight and you'll see where the donk oline went.


Without Alex Gibbs it seems the Shanarat scheme is loosing it's "genious".

Gibbs was in Atlanta last year and Denver's oline/ground game did well. It's just 1 game.

KCTitus
09-12-2005, 01:54 PM
5 shots from inside the 5 and come away with a donut...dunno, that would worry me just a little first game or tenth.

patteeu
09-12-2005, 02:24 PM
They are not as bad at losing 34-10 to [giggle] Miami would indicate. They are also not as good as the pundits and an undefeated preseason would indicate. They have serious problems at QB & RB, and that is going to kill them in the long run, IMO.

Still, that will not stop me from guffawing uproariously that the lost to [giggle] Miami 34-10.

xoxo~
Gaz
Happy, happy guy.


I think the serious problems they are having at the QB & RB positions can be largely attributed to a really serious offensive line problem.

Mile High Mania
09-12-2005, 02:26 PM
5 shots from inside the 5 and come away with a donut...dunno, that would worry me just a little first game or tenth.

Dude... it was hot, the players were sweating... have a heart.

TEX
09-12-2005, 02:29 PM
Gibbs was in Atlanta last year and Denver's oline/ground game did well. It's just 1 game.

Would have been better yet with Portis. That trade is getting better and better with time.

TEX
09-12-2005, 02:46 PM
Reading some of the posts here (Most by Taco) I can't believe the weather is even being listed as an EXCUSE by some. Get over it. It was hot - BFD. You make your team sound like a bunch of pu$$ies. :hmmm:

I mean since the very first game was ever played in Denver, the CHEATING DONX have had a serious advantage with the altitude that really sucks the life out of visiting teams in the later stages of games. Did some of you whiners forget this?

Area 51
09-12-2005, 02:49 PM
Dude... it was hot, the players were sweating... have a heart.

What? are you in bed with TJ? You seem to be making excuses for him!!!

I know, the temperature only had an effect on denver, the other team couldn't feel the heat, it was dry heat?

Mile High Mania
09-12-2005, 02:54 PM
What? are you in bed with TJ? You seem to be making excuses for him!!!

I know, the temperature only had an effect on denver, the other team couldn't feel the heat, it was dry heat?

:shake: Seriously, dude... it's called sarcasm. I was joking with Titus. I was here earlier posting when TJ was talking about the weather... I think it's more of a geography thing since I don't think Denver has won a regular season game in the state of Florida in a long long time.

Fairplay
09-12-2005, 02:59 PM
Denvers next game is against the 'Bolts at home.

Divisional matchs are always tough. Should be interesting.

stevieray
09-12-2005, 03:00 PM
They're mediocre.

nuff said.

Mile High Mania
09-12-2005, 03:01 PM
Denvers next game is against the 'Bolts at home.

Divisional matchs are always tough. Should be interesting.

Ditto for KC @ Oak.

Mile High Mania
09-12-2005, 03:01 PM
they're mediocre.

nuff said.

Good rebuttal... as always.

stevieray
09-12-2005, 03:02 PM
Good rebuttal... as always.

Mark Schlereth agrees with me.

Nothing special. It happens.

Fairplay
09-12-2005, 03:05 PM
I forgot how many games going back against the donks and Chiefs, maybe 8?

But out of those matchups 5 were decided in OT.

Those games get me stressed just watching them.

Area 51
09-12-2005, 03:38 PM
:shake: Seriously, dude... it's called sarcasm. I was joking with Titus. I was here earlier posting when TJ was talking about the weather... I think it's more of a geography thing since I don't think Denver has won a regular season game in the state of Florida in a long long time.

Seriously, dud....sarcasm is totally lost on you isn't it!!! I know, it's because you are a denver homer, right?

:harumph: ROFL STFU

Gaz
09-12-2005, 07:52 PM
I think the serious problems they are having at the QB & RB positions can be largely attributed to a really serious offensive line problem.

Naw, Plummer was a goofball LONG before the Broncos’ O-Line fell apart.

xoxo~
Gaz
Suspects Plummer was a goofball at birth.

Skip Towne
09-12-2005, 08:08 PM
WHAT??????

The donk dog pound rejects looked like crap... the donks blitzed on about every down during the game to hide their failed attempts at pass rushing... you know the reason why you brought all of those losers in.

And where were all of those world class LB’s we always hear about in donkville… leaving little Chump Bailout to take on a 230 lbs running back on a sweep. The laws of physics finally caught up with him.
You're mentioning physics to Donkey fans? They are still trying to master long division.