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MarcBulger
09-13-2005, 07:30 AM
I was listening to Limbaugh the other day and he was speaking about how the Dems have run LA and NO for years and years, I did some research and basically he is correct, basically 90% of the elected officials from that area are Lib Dems. SO as Limbaugh asked should'nt New Orleans and Southern LA be a liberal mecca, no poor, no rich, no uneducated, no crime. The left has had complete control, where is the Oasis of Society?

StcChief
09-13-2005, 07:47 AM
NO is still a $hit hole. Would you live below sealevel with that much water around you?

The place stinks.

Let the Libbys keep, and rebuild it themselves.

memyselfI
09-13-2005, 07:50 AM
Did he mention Negin was a CON until 2002 and that the previous GOV. in LA was a CON as well? Or that for 12 of the last 20 years the GOV. of LA has been a CON? Including the previous 8 years:

http://www.sec.state.la.us/gov-1877.htm

1996-2004 Murphy J. "Mike" Foster - Republican

MarcBulger
09-13-2005, 02:36 PM
Sorry for the late comeback but I was gone. No Limbaugh was saying that basically the State of LA and the local Govt of NO has been basically controlled by Dems. NO local Govt always Dems the House Senate always Dems. Yea I guess there was a REP GOv of 12 out of 20 years but I bet if you go back say 40 years it would still be 12 years. Lib Dems have built a social group of people who are so dependant on Govt and their handouts that they cannot even take care of themselves in a Hurricane. They have develpoed through the years a social group of people who have no self responcibility, when they chips they look to the Govt for assistance. Sad but you know this is truth....

Phobia
09-13-2005, 02:38 PM
You're nuts, MB. Crazy. Silly. Silly-crazy.

jettio
09-13-2005, 07:35 PM
I was listening to Limbaugh the other day and he was speaking about how the Dems have run LA and NO for years and years, I did some research and basically he is correct, basically 90% of the elected officials from that area are Lib Dems. SO as Limbaugh asked should'nt New Orleans and Southern LA be a liberal mecca, no poor, no rich, no uneducated, no crime. The left has had complete control, where is the Oasis of Society?

Every time Ernie posts something, I feel that me and my fellow Kansas Citians should plop a few gingko biloba tablets in the toilet before flushing so that we could possibly help those downstream in St. Looie improve their figurin' sh*t out ability.

srvy
09-13-2005, 08:11 PM
Every time Ernie posts something, I feel that me and my fellow Kansas Citians should plop a few gingko biloba tablets in the toilet before flushing so that we could possibly help those downstream in St. Looie improve their figurin' sh*t out ability.


Hmmm so that is your answer to his question. Guess truth must hurt huh?

jettio
09-14-2005, 05:57 AM
Hmmm so that is your answer to his question. Guess truth must hurt huh?

New guy,

Puff your chest up and post something worth replying to. Thanks, in advance.

Ernie needs an ally, join him and post together, we need a little entertainment around here now that the population of people willing to support B*sh is dwindling.

Warrior5
09-14-2005, 06:23 AM
I'll say the same thing I said to Denise in another thread: incompetence is the primary cause of the poor preparation/response, not party affiliation.

I don't care what side of the political spectrum you're on; basic, fundamental contingency planning and execution was sorely lacking, coupled with a population that couldn't or wouldn't obey a mandatory evacuation order.

MarcBulger
09-14-2005, 07:18 AM
Yes Bush has made some mistakes he has faced two different types of disaster and mistakes will be made when facing something new. All I heard out of the left was how Bush slowed relief to NO cause their Black. Sad that the Dem Party has to stoop so low, of course witht he Liberal Education these blacks receive in public school they will believe it.

oldandslow
09-14-2005, 07:41 AM
I really do not understand why conservatives feel the need to find their talking points through a thrice divorced, drug addicted (and I would argue criminal), chickenhawk.

I mean, really, is their anyone lower on a credibility scale than Rush Limbaugh?

Phobia
09-14-2005, 07:44 AM
I really do not understand why conservatives feel the need to find their talking points through a thrice divorced, drug addicted (and I would argue criminal), chickenhawk.

I mean, really, is their anyone lower on a credibility scale than Rush Limbaugh?

"Conservatives" don't. Some RWNJ's do.

Radar Chief
09-14-2005, 08:03 AM
I really do not understand why conservatives feel the need to find their talking points through a thrice divorced, drug addicted (and I would argue criminal), chickenhawk.

I mean, really, is their anyone lower on a credibility scale than Rush Limbaugh?

People need to remember that Limbaugh’s show is all op-ed. His opinion that’s all, and he’s as welcome to it as any other person here.

Radar Chief
09-14-2005, 08:12 AM
I was listening to Limbaugh the other day and he was speaking about how the Dems have run LA and NO for years and years, I did some research and basically he is correct, basically 90% of the elected officials from that area are Lib Dems. SO as Limbaugh asked should'nt New Orleans and Southern LA be a liberal mecca, no poor, no rich, no uneducated, no crime. The left has had complete control, where is the Oasis of Society?

I heard him say’n this also but you have to remember he’s being facetious. That’s not meant to be taken seriously.
Limbaugh is much like the WWF, fine for entertainment, if your into that kinda thing, but doesn’t translate well to the real world.
You’d do well to laugh at a lot of what Rush say’s and not take him quite so seriously, but that’s just my opinion.

SBK
09-14-2005, 08:34 AM
I mean, really, is their anyone lower on a credibility scale than Rush Limbaugh?

Bill Clinton.

MarcBulger
09-14-2005, 08:36 AM
Why do you kill the messenger instead of anwsering the question. Hey here in St Lou the Dems have contolled everything yet we have the same poverty here.

Phobia
09-14-2005, 09:47 AM
Why do you kill the messenger instead of anwsering the question. Hey here in St Lou the Dems have contolled everything yet we have the same poverty here.

You live a sheltered life. We have poverty in EVERY city, doesn't matter who has the control. The problem isn't the political party, it's a system that allows.... or better yet, encourages dependancy upon the system. Back in the day those people just didn't eat. If somebody goes hungry long enough they'll get up and put some food on the table. But now they don't go hungry. The government gives them everything they need to live in filth and squalor.

oldandslow
09-14-2005, 09:51 AM
Why do you kill the messenger instead of anwsering the question. Hey here in St Lou the Dems have contolled everything yet we have the same poverty here.

And in Miss and Texas and Ala the republicans rule everything and poverty still exists.

The problem is systemic.

oldandslow
09-14-2005, 09:53 AM
"Conservatives" don't. Some RWNJ's do.


Good point....I misspoke.

gblowfish
09-14-2005, 10:37 AM
NO is still a $hit hole. Would you live below sealevel with that much water around you?

The place stinks.

Let the Libbys keep, and rebuild it themselves.Now there's a constructive attitude.

New York City is full of "libbies" too. Think we ought to abandon re-building the WTC because of the politics of some of the people who live there?

Man, "F them if they're not Republican" mind set is pretty damn frightening.

Pitt Gorilla
09-14-2005, 11:17 AM
All I heard out of the left was how Bush slowed relief to NO cause their Black. Sad that the Dem Party has to stoop so low, of course witht he Liberal Education these blacks receive in public school they will believe it.I think you're lying. Or, maybe you're just incredibly uninformed. It seems to me that people on the left, right, and middle are noting that many officials, from both sides, are responsible for the failure. Of course, I don't look for a few isolated comments and attempt to extrapolate them to an entire population.

MarcBulger
09-14-2005, 12:08 PM
True it is the system, but who created the system and who continues to fight against every form of re-evaluating the war on poverty. Yes Clinton signed the Welfare Reform act, but that was all political......

gblowfish
09-14-2005, 12:22 PM
Certainly there are guys on both sides of the aisle who should face the music for this whole mess.

Found this story today about a Louisiana Democratic Congressman who should get nuthooks for this selfish activity. Story attached:

Amid Katrina Chaos, Congressman Used National Guard to Visit Home
Two Heavy Trucks, Helicopter Were Involved in Lawmaker's Trip at Height of Crisis

Sept. 13, 3005 — Amid the chaos and confusion that engulfed New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina struck, a congressman used National Guard troops to check on his property and rescue his personal belongings — even while New Orleans residents were trying to get rescued from rooftops, ABC News has learned.

On Sept. 2 — five days after Katrina hit the Gulf Coast — Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., who represents New Orleans and is a senior member of the powerful Ways and Means Committee, was allowed through the military blockades set up around the city to reach the Superdome, where thousands of evacuees had been taken.

Military sources tells ABC News that Jefferson, an eight-term Democratic congressman, asked the National Guard that night to take him on a tour of the flooded portions of his congressional district. A 5-ton military truck and a half dozen military police were dispatched.

Lt. Col. Pete Schneider of the Louisiana National Guard tells ABC News that during the tour, Jefferson asked that the truck take him to his home on Marengo Street, in the affluent uptown neighborhood in his congressional district. According to Schneider, this was not part of Jefferson's initial request.

Jefferson defended the expedition, saying he set out to see how residents were coping at the Superdome and in his neighborhood. He also insisted that he did not ask the National Guard to transport him.

"I did not seek the use of military assets to help me get around my city," Jefferson told ABC News. "There was shooting going on. There was sniping going on. They thought I should be escorted by some military guards, both to the convention center, the Superdome and uptown."

The water reached to the third step of Jefferson's house, a military source familiar with the incident told ABC News, and the vehicle pulled up onto Jefferson's front lawn so he wouldn't have to walk in the water. Jefferson went into the house alone, the source says, while the soldiers waited on the porch for about an hour.

Finally, according to the source, Jefferson emerged with a laptop computer, three suitcases, and a box about the size of a small refrigerator, which the enlisted men loaded up into the truck.

"I don't think there is any explanation for an elected official using resources for their own personal use, when those resources should be doing search and rescue, or they should be helping with law enforcement in the city," said Jerry Hauer, a homeland security expert and ABC News consultant.

Jefferson said the trip was entirely appropriate. It took only a few minutes to retrieve his belongings, he said, and the truck stayed at his house for an hour in part to assist neighbors.

"This wasn't about me going to my house. It was about me going to my district," he said.

Two Heavy Trucks and Helicopter Involved

The Louisiana National Guard tells ABC News the truck became stuck as it waited for Jefferson to retrieve his belongings.

Two weeks later, the vehicle's tire tracks were still visible on the lawn.

The soldiers signaled to helicopters in the air for aid. Military sources say a Coast Guard helicopter pilot saw the signal and flew to Jefferson's home. The chopper was already carrying four rescued New Orleans residents at the time.

A rescue diver descended from the helicopter, but the congressman decided against going up in the helicopter, sources say. The pilot sent the diver down again, but Jefferson again declined to go up the helicopter.

After spending approximately 45 minutes with Jefferson, the helicopter went on to rescue three additional New Orleans residents before it ran low on fuel and was forced to end its mission.

"Forty-five minutes can be an eternity to somebody that is drowning, to somebody that is sitting in a roof, and it needs to be used its primary purpose during an emergency," said Hauer.

Coast Guard Commander Brendan McPherson told ABC News, "We did have an aircraft that responded to a signal of distress where the congressman was located. The congressman did decline rescue at the time so the helicopter picked up three other people.

"I can't comment on why the congressman decided not to go in the aircraft," McPherson said. "Did it take a little more time to send the rescue swimmer back a second time? Yes … You'd have to ask the congressman if it was a waste of time or not."

The Louisiana National Guard then sent a second 5-ton truck to rescue the first truck, and Jefferson and his personal items were returned to the Superdome.

Schneider said he could not comment on whether the excursion was appropriate. "We're in no position to comment on an order given to a soldier. You're not going to get a statement from the Louisiana National Guard saying whether it was right or wrong. That was the mission we were assigned."

Jefferson insisted the expedition did not distract from rescue efforts.

"They actually picked up a lot of people while we were there," he said. "The young soldier said, 'It's a good thing we came up here because a lot of people would not have been rescued had we not been in the neighborhood.'"

Jefferson's Homes Searched in Unrelated Investigation

In an unrelated matter, authorities recently searched Jefferson's property as part of a federal investigation into the finances of a high-tech firm. Last month FBI officials raided Jefferson's house as well as his home in Washington, D.C., his car and his accountant's house.

Jefferson has not commented on that matter, except to say he is cooperating with the investigation. But he has emerged as a major voice in the post-Katrina political debate.

"The levee system that had protected New Orleans for hundreds of years had failed," he said on the House floor on Sept. 7. "Our city was inundated, 80 percent of it, with deadly water. Thousands of lives were lost, many drowned, trapped in their homes. Others were lost trying to escape the fury."

Last week, Jefferson set up a special trust fund for contributions to his legal defense in light of the FBI investigation. A senior federal law enforcement source tells ABC News that investigators are interested in learning if Jefferson moved any materials relevant to the investigation. Jefferson says he did not.

srvy
09-14-2005, 04:16 PM
New guy,

Puff your chest up and post something worth replying to. Thanks, in advance.

Ernie needs an ally, join him and post together, we need a little entertainment around here now that the population of people willing to support B*sh is dwindling.


Hmmmmmmmm 4200 posts i may be new but ill bet the sewer system in KC is gettin backed up with all the crap youve spewed in here and has been reguarly flushed out of peoples systems. Wow maybe like find a life instead of sitting around posting crap for threads and geting so excited at your assumed brilliance you have to beat your woody down.

jettio
09-14-2005, 08:17 PM
Hmmmmmmmm 4200 posts i may be new but ill bet the sewer system in KC is gettin backed up with all the crap youve spewed in here and has been reguarly flushed out of peoples systems. Wow maybe like find a life instead of sitting around posting crap for threads and geting so excited at your assumed brilliance you have to beat your woody down.

Wax-on Wax-off Daniel-san. Smack-meister must have Balance.

Back to the topic of the thread, America is not the only place where there are poor people.

There would be poor people here no matter the status of welfare, anybody that thinks that a safety net has caused poverty does not know anything about history, there have always been poor and starving people.

SBK
09-14-2005, 08:42 PM
Back to the topic of the thread, America is not the only place where there are poor people.

There would be poor people here no matter the status of welfare, anybody that thinks that a safety net has caused poverty does not know anything about history, there have always been poor and starving people.

And there always will be.

Phobia
09-14-2005, 09:05 PM
There would be poor people here no matter the status of welfare, anybody that thinks that a safety net has caused poverty does not know anything about history, there have always been poor and starving people.

Would you agree that Welfare contributes to laziness? Would you agree that a whole lot of people would get up off their asses if they didn't know their next meal could be picked up down at the welfare office tomorrow?

I absolutely loathe watching a 300 lbs person paying for a cart full of cheetos and doritos with food stamps.

jettio
09-14-2005, 09:23 PM
Would you agree that Welfare contributes to laziness? Would you agree that a whole lot of people would get up off their asses if they didn't know their next meal could be picked up down at the welfare office tomorrow?

I absolutely loathe watching a 300 lbs person paying for a cart full of cheetos and doritos with food stamps.

Cheetos and doritos is name brand, I don't think food stamps can buy chips, but if it can, the 300 lbs. tub of love would have to buy the generic, I don't think they even have stamps anymore. I think the have the USDA platinum card.

And I am not even sure there is a welfare office anymore, I think they upgraded all that to virtual during the Clinton Gore years on the internet ya' know.

MrDoggity
09-14-2005, 10:46 PM
Bulger - you suck as a quarterback, but at least you're a lot better at that than political analyst.

Ray Nagin -- mayor of New Orleans (whom your buddy Rusty "Pilonidal cyst" Limbaugh calls "Nayger" -- classy) is a lifelong Republican who changed his party affiliation to run for mayor. Yet, despite being on the ballot listed as a Democrat, actively campaigned for the Republican who ran against Governor Blanco, and he gave $1000 to the Bush/Cheney campaign. He's a multi-millionaire former executive with Cox Communications, who took a $300,000 cut in pay to be mayor. Real "yellow dog" that Nagin.

Now. As for who had responsibility for New Orleans -- the answer is simply and clearly -- the Federal government. The reason is two-fold. First, Bush cut 80% of the money allocated by congress for levee repair. And don't post ANYTHING about corruption in New Orleans causing that. The budget was allocated to the Corps of Engineers, and the fiduciary oversight of that money rests with the Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, not the New Orleans politicos.

Secondly, the National Response Plan was signed by Bush and most of the people in his administration in December of last year and became effective on March 1 of this year. It required Secretary of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff to immediately assume control of any "Incident of National Significance", which Katrina became on the Friday night before it made landfall (8/27) when President Bush invoked title V of the Stafford Act and declared a state of emergency.

Chertoff not only failed to do it, he blamed the Governor for not "requesting it". Two problems with that. First, the NRP specifically states that the Sec of Homeland Security has that authority upon the invocation of the Stafford Act without the governor's request. Secondly, SHE DID request it - in writing - earlier on the 27th.

In addition, the NRP assigns responsibilities to others who were "too busy" on Monday and Tuesday as Katrina made landfall and the levees failied. The NRP assigns responsibility for deploying necessary military assests to the Secretary of Defense (who was at a Padres game with Dave Winfield on Monday) and coordination of international assistance to the Secretary of State (who was taking in a Broadway musical on Monday and buying $1000 shoes on Tuesday) -- as well as primary fiduciary obligation to the President (who spent Monday and Tuesday eating birthday cake, playing golf and strumming a guitar).

There is, as was previously mentioned, a big bi-partisan bag of blame to spread around, but by far the biggest failure was on the part of the Secretary of Homeland Security, and the NRP supporting cast who were obligated by that new Federal law to take "immediate and proactive" action the weekend before Katrina hit.

Dumping on the absurdly unqualified head of FEMA is like blaming the janitor at Logan airport for 9/11. Mayor Nagin does deserve plenty of blame, and so does the rest of the New Orleans city government. However, having read the city, state and federal plans and the corresponding responses, Governor Blanco made some mistakes, but did by far the most appropriate job of responding. The Bush administration did by far the worst, with the New Orleans city government somewhere in between -- but closer to the inept Feds.

MarcBulger
09-15-2005, 07:48 AM
Why would a Mayor change parties to run, simply put he knew a Republican which is StLou talk for (I beleive in self responcibility) would never make it. Anwser the question.

WHy is this area so poor? They have been run by a majority of Liberal Dems, this should be a mecca of great cities....Anwser the ? Why it is not.

I'm a great QB....

Saggysack
09-15-2005, 09:22 AM
Would you live below sealevel with that much water around you?

Most definately. I'd live in Amsterdam in a heartbeat. Hey, you wouldn't happen to know any Dutch employers who are looking for a lazy american, would you?

Radar Chief
09-15-2005, 09:32 AM
Most definately. I'd live in Amsterdam in a heartbeat. Hey, you wouldn't happen to know any Dutch employers who are looking for a lazy american, would you?

No, but hey good luck with that, maybe when you find one you could help a brotha out. I’ll return the favor when I find a career turn’n beer into piss. ;)

memyselfI
09-15-2005, 09:41 AM
Bulger - you suck as a quarterback, but at least you're a lot better at that than political analyst.

Ray Nagin -- mayor of New Orleans (whom your buddy Rusty "Pilonidal cyst" Limbaugh calls "Nayger" -- classy) is a lifelong Republican who changed his party affiliation to run for mayor. Yet, despite being on the ballot listed as a Democrat, actively campaigned for the Republican who ran against Governor Blanco, and he gave $1000 to the Bush/Cheney campaign. He's a multi-millionaire former executive with Cox Communications, who took a $300,000 cut in pay to be mayor. Real "yellow dog" that Nagin.

Now. As for who had responsibility for New Orleans -- the answer is simply and clearly -- the Federal government. The reason is two-fold. First, Bush cut 80% of the money allocated by congress for levee repair. And don't post ANYTHING about corruption in New Orleans causing that. The budget was allocated to the Corps of Engineers, and the fiduciary oversight of that money rests with the Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, not the New Orleans politicos.

Secondly, the National Response Plan was signed by Bush and most of the people in his administration in December of last year and became effective on March 1 of this year. It required Secretary of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff to immediately assume control of any "Incident of National Significance", which Katrina became on the Friday night before it made landfall (8/27) when President Bush invoked title V of the Stafford Act and declared a state of emergency.

Chertoff not only failed to do it, he blamed the Governor for not "requesting it". Two problems with that. First, the NRP specifically states that the Sec of Homeland Security has that authority upon the invocation of the Stafford Act without the governor's request. Secondly, SHE DID request it - in writing - earlier on the 27th.

In addition, the NRP assigns responsibilities to others who were "too busy" on Monday and Tuesday as Katrina made landfall and the levees failied. The NRP assigns responsibility for deploying necessary military assests to the Secretary of Defense (who was at a Padres game with Dave Winfield on Monday) and coordination of international assistance to the Secretary of State (who was taking in a Broadway musical on Monday and buying $1000 shoes on Tuesday) -- as well as primary fiduciary obligation to the President (who spent Monday and Tuesday eating birthday cake, playing golf and strumming a guitar).

There is, as was previously mentioned, a big bi-partisan bag of blame to spread around, but by far the biggest failure was on the part of the Secretary of Homeland Security, and the NRP supporting cast who were obligated by that new Federal law to take "immediate and proactive" action the weekend before Katrina hit.

Dumping on the absurdly unqualified head of FEMA is like blaming the janitor at Logan airport for 9/11. Mayor Nagin does deserve plenty of blame, and so does the rest of the New Orleans city government. However, having read the city, state and federal plans and the corresponding responses, Governor Blanco made some mistakes, but did by far the most appropriate job of responding. The Bush administration did by far the worst, with the New Orleans city government somewhere in between -- but closer to the inept Feds.

Br-a-vo!

Whoever you are, newbie, welcome.

Be careful though. Regardless of the facts you throw out there you will soon be considered a 'moonbat' and your points will be lost because the M.O. is to attack the messenger and ignore the message.

MarcBulger
09-15-2005, 09:57 AM
Hey Meme anwser the question. The area has been led by Dems 90% of the time why is it not a liberal mecca?

memyselfI
09-15-2005, 10:16 AM
Hey Meme answer the question. The area has been led by Dems 90% of the time why is it not a liberal mecca?

Sure, after you answer why if 12 of the last 20 years the STATE has been led by Republicans including the 8 years prior to 2004. Projects needed to address areas that would be most impacted by the levee could have been completed within that past twenty years if not with the past 8.

MarcBulger
09-20-2005, 07:36 AM
I will give you an anwser but, I know I won't get one from you. Lets see basically for 12 of the 60 years a Rep has led LA never has a true Conservative led any City especially NO. In 12 years Rep in charge have refused to get into the poverty issue in any liberal caused poverty area due tot he mere fact that as soon as you say hey we are going to try some new conservative ideas like work for your money, work for your home, have more babies no moe welfare, but as soon as you do the left lables you a racists, now this is no excuse the Right should have just doen what Bush was talking about doing to rebuild NO in the first place.

Now why is the area so poor with all these Dems running it? Hell I don't think you can find a poor area that has been consistantly ran by the Right.....

Amnorix
09-20-2005, 10:05 AM
I will give you an anwser but, I know I won't get one from you. Lets see basically for 12 of the 60 years a Rep has led LA never has a true Conservative led any City especially NO. In 12 years Rep in charge have refused to get into the poverty issue in any liberal caused poverty area due tot he mere fact that as soon as you say hey we are going to try some new conservative ideas like work for your money, work for your home, have more babies no moe welfare, but as soon as you do the left lables you a racists, now this is no excuse the Right should have just doen what Bush was talking about doing to rebuild NO in the first place.


Hey, thanks for clarifying that.


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jAZ
09-20-2005, 10:29 AM
I'll say the same thing I said to Denise in another thread: incompetence is the primary cause of the poor preparation/response, not party affiliation.

I don't care what side of the political spectrum you're on; basic, fundamental contingency planning and execution was sorely lacking, coupled with a population that couldn't or wouldn't obey a mandatory evacuation order.
You feel the same way about the Iraq War?

Warrior5
09-20-2005, 11:25 AM
You feel the same way about the Iraq War?

Nope.

whoman69
09-20-2005, 12:01 PM
People need to remember that Limbaugh’s show is all op-ed. His opinion that’s all, and he’s as welcome to it as any other person here.
We'll remember that next time someone here is slamming Olberman.

Clint in Wichita
09-20-2005, 04:10 PM
I was listening to Limbaugh the other day and he was speaking about how the Dems have run LA and NO for years and years, I did some research and basically he is correct, basically 90% of the elected officials from that area are Lib Dems. SO as Limbaugh asked should'nt New Orleans and Southern LA be a liberal mecca, no poor, no rich, no uneducated, no crime. The left has had complete control, where is the Oasis of Society?


It's funny that the areas of the country that faithfully back Republicans year after year are shitholes, for the most part. The rural areas of the midwest and southeast, primarily.

Those people are so stupid that they accept poverty as long as they are promised their guns and their god.

MarcBulger
09-21-2005, 07:48 AM
Maybe thats all these people need. They watch and watch as the left attempts to take our guns and it won't be long until the word God cannot be spoken publicly. Its you liberal wacks that think we need Govt to be happy.

Radar Chief
09-22-2005, 07:15 AM
We'll remember that next time someone here is slamming Olberman.

Ok, for whatever that’s supposed to mean to me. :shrug: :rolleyes:

WoodDraw
09-22-2005, 10:04 PM
WHy is this area so poor? They have been run by a majority of Liberal Dems, this should be a mecca of great cities....Anwser the ? Why it is not.


I don't know about the rest of the forumers here who are typically on the liberal/Democrat side but I have no problem admitting the weaknesses of the current Democratic Party. Both the Democrat and Republican parties have embraced the "big tent" philosophy to the point that the words Democrat and Republican mean very little. Both parties have been so hijacked by special interest groups and political bickering that the greater ideals that each party stands for have been lost. There is no unified message and the views of one party member can be wildly different from the next.

So if your argument is that the Democrats as a party have failed to address the problems of this nation (or in this case this city) then I agree with you, but that doesn't mean that the core principles which they are supposed to stand for have been proven wrong. NOLA is no more a failure of liberalism then George Bush's Presidency has been a failure of conservatism.

Ugly Duck
09-25-2005, 12:56 AM
I was listening to Limbaugh the other dayWell, there's your problem right there. If you still believe Mr. Hillbilly Heroin, you're bound to be confused.

Taco John
09-25-2005, 01:49 AM
Every time Ernie posts something, I feel that me and my fellow Kansas Citians should plop a few gingko biloba tablets in the toilet before flushing so that we could possibly help those downstream in St. Looie improve their figurin' sh*t out ability.



That's some fine vintage smack right there... ROFL

MarcBulger
09-25-2005, 08:40 AM
I love how when I post something, everyone slams my spelling or anything else except the toppic of my post, where is MeMe? Where is the rest of the left who will not explain to me why in 60-70 years of complete liberal Dem control is not the Ninth Ward of NO a Mecca a utophia of greatness. Not the Bastard Children, of 24 yr old mothers with 7-8 Children, yea I know MeMe those damn condoms break all the time.

Ugly Duck
09-25-2005, 09:34 AM
I love how when I post something, everyone slams my spelling or anything else except the toppic of my post, where is MeMe? Where is the rest of the left who will not explain to me why in 60-70 years of complete liberal Dem control is not the Ninth Ward of NO a Mecca a utophia of greatness. Not the Bastard Children, of 24 yr old mothers with 7-8 Children, yea I know MeMe those damn condoms break all the time.Dude.... ya gotta lay off the Limbaugh. You'll never get better till you're off the stuff. Get clean, and then come back and read your posts. Realize that Rush is not your Higher Power. Make amends to those you have harmed. Life'll get better - one day at a time....

the Talking Can
09-25-2005, 09:59 AM
Dude.... ya gotta lay off the Limbaugh. You'll never get better till you're off the stuff. Get clean, and then come back and read your posts. Realize that Rush is not your Higher Power. Make amends to those you have harmed. Life'll get better - one day at a time....

bulger is our racist, jew hating friend "Ernie".....