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MarcBulger
09-15-2005, 08:41 AM
Chain of Responsibility

In case you aren't familiar with how our government is SUPPOSED to
work:
The chain of responsiblity for the protection of the citizens in New
Orleans is:

1. The Mayor
2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security (a political
appointee
of the Governor who reports to the Governor)
3. The Governor
4. The Head of Homeland Security
5. The President

What did each do?

1. The mayor, with 5 days advance, waited until 2 days before he
announced a mandatory evacuation (at the behest of the President). The
he failed to provide transportation for those without transport even
though he had hundreds of buses at his disposal.

2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security failed to have any
plan
for a contingency that has been talked about for 50 years. Then he
blames the Feds for not doing what he should have done. (So much for
political appointees)

3. The Governor, despite a declaration of disaster by the President 2
DAYS BEFORE the storm hit, failed to take advantage of the offer of
Federal troops and aid. Until 2 DAYS AFTER the storm hit.

4. The Director of Homeland Security positioned assets in the area to
be
ready when the Governor called for them

5. The President urged a mandatory evacuation, and even declared a
disaster State of Emergency, freeing up millions of dollars of federal
assistance, should the Governor decide to use it.

Oh and by the way, the levees that broke were the responsibility of
the
local landowners and the local levee board to maintain, NOT THE
FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT.

The disaster in New Orleans is what you get after decades of corrupt
(democrat) government going all the way back to Huey Long.

Funds for disaster protection and relief have been flowing into this
city for decades, and where has it gone, but into the pockets of the
politicos and their friends.

Decades of socialist government in New Orleans has sapped all self
reliance from the community, and made them dependent upon government
for
every little thing.

Political correctness and a lack of will to fight crime have created
the
single most corrupt police force in the country, and has permitted
gang
violence to flourish.

The sad thing is that there are many poor folks who have suffered and
died needlessly because those that they voted into office failed them.

For those who missed item 5 (where the President's level of
accountability is discussed), it is made more clear in a New Orleans
Times-Picayune article dated August 28:

NEW ORLEANS (AP) - In the face of a catastrophic Hurricane Katrina, a
mandatory evacuation was ordered Sunday for New Orleans by Mayor Ray
Nagin.

Acknowledging that large numbers of people, many of them stranded
tourists, would be unable to leave, the city set up 10 places of last
resort for people to go, including the Superdome.

The mayor called the order unprecedented and said anyone who could
leave
the city should. He exempted hotels from the evacuation order because
airlines had already cancelled all flights.

Gov. Kathleen Blanco, standing beside the mayor at a news conference,
said President Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory
evacuation for the low-lying city, which is prone to flooding.
(emphasis
mine)

The ball was placed in Mayor Nagin's court to carry out the evacuation
order. With a 5-day heads-up, he had the authority to use any and all
services to evacuate all residents from the city, as documented in a
city emergency preparedness plan. By waiting until the last minute,
and
failing to make full use of resources available within city limits,
Nagin and his administration missed the boat.

Mayor Nagin and his emergency sidekick Terry Ebbert have displayed
lethal, mind boggling incompetence before, during and after Katrina.

[...]

As for Mayor Nagin, he and his profile in pathetic leadership police
chief should resign as well. That city's government is incompetent
from
one end to the other. The people of New Orleans deserve better than
this
crowd of clowns is capable of giving them.

If you're keeping track, these boobs let 569 buses that could have
carried 33,350 people out of New Orleans-in one trip-get ruined in the
floods. Whatever plan these guys had, it was a dud. Or it probably
would
have been if they'd bothered to follow it.

As for all the race-baiting rhetoric and Bush-bashing coming from
prominent blacks on the left, don't expect Ray Nagin to be called out
on
the carpet for falling short. You want to know why? Here's why:

It's more convenient to blame a white president for what went wrong
than
to hold a black mayor and his administration accountable for gross
negligence and failing to fully carry out an established emergency
preparedness plan.

To hold Nagin and his administration accountable for dropping the ball
amounts to letting loose the shouts and cries of "Racism!". It's sad,
it's wrong, but it's standard operating procedure for the media and
left-wing black leadership.

Mark my words: you will not hear a word of criticism from Jesse
Jackson
Sr., Randall Robinson, the Congressional Black Caucus, the NAACP, or
Kanye West being directed toward Clarence Ray Nagin Jr. Why? Because
he
is just another black politician instead of a responsible elected
official who happens to be black. In the mindset of
more-blacker-than-thou blacks, black politicians who are on their side
can do no wrong.

gblowfish
09-15-2005, 09:14 AM
Wow...

How can you type like that while wearing a bedsheet? :p

MarcBulger
09-15-2005, 09:32 AM
Good Holes....Why is it that if you bring something up like this your automaticaly a klan member?

Radar Chief
09-15-2005, 09:35 AM
Good Holes....Why is it that if you bring something up like this your automaticaly a klan member?

Oh come on, you can bring better smaque than that.
Just tell’im it’s no harder than him type’n with his tin foil hat on. :thumb:

Pitt Gorilla
09-15-2005, 09:46 AM
Still playing the blame game, huh?

Area 51
09-15-2005, 10:27 AM
How many of those that refused to evacuate were doing so for the opportunities it presented?

I know this sounds bad but there seemed to be alot of crime committed by the "people that the president failed to evacuate".

There were a number of people that had nothing more than their posessions and their home. I understand not wanting to lose everything, but what is actually more important? Stuff or your life and your families life?

memyselfI
09-15-2005, 10:32 AM
There were a number of people that had nothing more than their posessions and their home. I understand not wanting to lose everything, but what is actually more important? Stuff or your life and your families life?

Actually, from the reports I've heard most people didn't leave because they were worried about their material possessions but rather their pets. Which brings up an interesting point, if it can be shown that making provisions for pets in an evacuation will create a larger participation level then why not do it?

FTR, it's done in Cuba. The ruthless commies who have been cited by the UN as a model country for hurricane evacuation.

Radar Chief
09-15-2005, 12:14 PM
Actually, from the reports I've heard most people didn't leave because they were worried about their material possessions but rather their pets. Which brings up an interesting point, if it can be shown that making provisions for pets in an evacuation will create a larger participation level then why not do it?

FTR, it's done in Cuba. The ruthless commies who have been cited by the UN as a model country for hurricane evacuation.

I’m sure that’s at least some of it.
I also think part of it is that a lot of people saw this hurricane come across Florida and think it’s nothing they hadn’t sat out before.

memyselfI
09-15-2005, 12:19 PM
I’m sure that’s at least some of it.
I also think part of it is that a lot of people saw this hurricane come across Florida and think it’s nothing they hadn’t sat out before.

It was a CAT1 when it went across FL. They had seen it before...

Area 51
09-15-2005, 12:25 PM
Actually, from the reports I've heard most people didn't leave because they were worried about their material possessions but rather their pets. Which brings up an interesting point, if it can be shown that making provisions for pets in an evacuation will create a larger participation level then why not do it?

FTR, it's done in Cuba. The ruthless commies who have been cited by the UN as a model country for hurricane evacuation.



:rolleyes: Falling back on communism for your answers, that does tells us volumns about you core values.

go bowe
09-15-2005, 12:49 PM
this really is ernie, isn't it?

memyselfI
09-15-2005, 01:49 PM
:rolleyes: Falling back on communism for your answers, that does tells us volumns about you core values.

Once in a while Castro, like Republicans, have a decent idea that works...

that doesn't mean I want him, or them, running our country. :harumph:

Area 51
09-15-2005, 03:04 PM
Once in a while Castro, like Republicans, have a decent idea that works...

that doesn't mean I want him, or them, running our country. :harumph:

So what you are saying is that the republicans are communists?:rolleyes:

Logical
09-15-2005, 03:20 PM
this really is ernie, isn't it?Yes, I pointed it out before that this is just the latest incarnation of Ernie Conwell

Amnorix
09-15-2005, 03:21 PM
I see, via Google, that this set of "facts" is quickly making an appearance across the Internet.

I find the race-baiting deplorable.

I find certain "facts" to be false. For example Item 3 says the President declared a disaster two days BEFORE the storm hit. This is just flat wrong. He declared a disaster on August 29th, the same day the storm hit.

(storm hits the 29th: http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/28/hurricane.katrina/)

FEMA announces disaster declared: http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=18478

This, of course, was 3 days AFTER Governor Blanco declared a state of emergency, which she did as soon as the National Hurricane Center predicted it would hti as a Cat 4, in excess of what the levees were designed to handle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Nagin

In general, Bush responded favorably to the governor's various requests for federal assistance (also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Nagin)

Similarly, item 4 says that the Director of Homeland Security prepositioned assets, etc. This general and useless statement would be true for EVERY area of the country.

Although not solely responsible, to be sure, the Army Corps of Engineers has tremendous responsibilities throughout the United States for flood, dam and water management.

http://www.usace.army.mil/missions/water.html


In short, this article has a few useful tidbits, but is mostly a race-baiting piece of garbage.

Amnorix
09-15-2005, 03:22 PM
So what you are saying is that the republicans are communists?:rolleyes:


err....no, actually, that's definitely not what she is saying.

Boozer
09-15-2005, 03:27 PM
Ernie,
Does it ever occur to you that, because you need to rely on fabricated "facts," your ideology may be incorrect?

go bowe
09-16-2005, 01:10 AM
Ernie,
Does it ever occur to you that, because you need to rely on fabricated "facts," your ideology may be incorrect?c'mon man...

that's way too complicated for ernie...

make it simple...

like this...

ernie, stfu! :p :p :p