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Bootlegged
09-15-2005, 08:09 PM
I think their polling sample was the left wing of the Sierra Club. Un****ingbelievable.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9356656/

Posted on Thu, Sep. 15, 2005

Poll: 8 in 10 want drivers to drop SUVs

WILL LESTER

Associated Press


WASHINGTON - Eight in 10 people say it's important for Americans now driving sport utility vehicles to switch to more fuel-efficient vehicles to reduce the nation's dependence on oil, a poll found.

With gas prices hovering around $3 a gallon nationally and the price of natural gas rising sharply, six in 10 said they are not confident President Bush is taking the right approach to solving the nation's energy problems, according to the survey by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press.

Given several choices for dealing with energy problems, the public has some clear preferences:

_Almost seven in 10 want the government to establish price controls on gasoline and want more spending on subway, rail and bus systems.

_Just over seven in 10 want to give tax cuts to companies to develop wind, solar and hydrogen energy.

_Just over eight in 10 want higher fuel efficiency required for cars, trucks and SUVs.

_Slightly more than half, 52 percent, favor giving tax cuts to energy companies to explore for more oil.

The rising anxiety over high gas prices has caused a shift in public priorities about the importance of exploring for new energy.

Almost six in 10 now say exploring for new sources of energy is more important than protecting the environment. People were evenly split on that question in 2002. Half now support drilling for oil and gas in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska - up from 42 percent who felt that way in March.

Only four in 10 wanted to promote the increased use of nuclear power, while slightly more than half opposed that step.

The Pew poll of 1,523 adults was taken Sept. 8-11 and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

|Zach|
09-15-2005, 08:20 PM
http://people-press.org/reports/tables/257.pdf

Dig in.

About this Survey

Results for this survey are based on telephone interviews conducted under the direction of Princeton Survey Research Associates International among a nationwide sample of 1,523 adults, 18 years of age or older, from Sept. 8-11, 2005. For results based on the total sample, one can say with 95% confidence that the error attributable to sampling is plus or minus 3 percentage points. For results based on form 1 (N=758) and form 2 (N=765) the sampling error is plus or minus 4 percentage points. The survey sample excluded 20 counties located along coastal Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama which constitutes 1% of the population (including the cities of New Orleans, Gulfport and Pascagoula in Mississippi, and Mobile, Alabama).

In addition to sampling error, one should bear in mind that question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of opinion polls.

redbrian
09-15-2005, 08:25 PM
Who burns more gas an SUV driver who only drives five miles a week, or a suburban driver of a hybred driving 250 miles a week.

It's all relative folks, but lets not throw any logic into this.

Bootlegged
09-15-2005, 08:26 PM
Pavlov rings the bell.... Boo Boo w/Yogi soon to follow.

|Zach|
09-15-2005, 08:27 PM
Pavlov rings the bell.... Boo Boo w/Yogi soon to follow.
I am just wondering if there is a single time you won't post something consisting of hot air. I doubt it but you never know.

Pitt Gorilla
09-15-2005, 09:00 PM
Who burns more gas an SUV driver who only drives five miles a week, or a suburban driver of a hybred driving 250 miles a week.

It's all relative folks, but lets not throw any logic into this.OR an SUV driver who drives 250 miles a week vs. a hybred driver who drives 250 miles a week. That would be a valid comparison, but lets not throw any logic into this.

Logical
09-15-2005, 11:22 PM
Who burns more gas an SUV driver who only drives five miles a week, or a suburban driver of a hybred driving 250 miles a week.

It's all relative folks, but lets not throw any logic into this.I am not an environmentalist by a long shot. However your proposition is illogical because if the person driving the SUV changes to a hybrid then they still save a tremendous amount of fuel over a years time.

Radar Chief
09-16-2005, 06:28 AM
What are the poll results for those that think everyone else should mind their own fugg’n business and worry a little less ‘bout what everyone else is doing. Freak’n nosey busy bodies. :harumph:

Radar Chief
09-16-2005, 06:36 AM
OR an SUV driver who drives 250 miles a week vs. a hybred driver who drives 250 miles a week. That would be a valid comparison, but lets not throw any logic into this.

I am not an environmentalist by a long shot. However your proposition is illogical because if the person driving the SUV changes to a hybrid then they still save a tremendous amount of fuel over a years time.

Not meaning to speak for RedBrian, but what I think he’s get’n at is these people don’t necessarily know what everyone else is using their SUV for. For someone that has to haul stuff or go to locations that aren’t paved, or even maintained, the current crop of Hybrids simpley won’t work.
Next year, Jeep is supposed to produce a Liberty Hybrid, Chevy has already advertised a Blazer Hybrid (with a 275 horse V-8 :thumb: ), and Ford is gonna offer the Explorer in a hybrid. But until that time, driving a hybrid just doesn’t work for some.
It’s true that some (many) don’t need SUV’s but what business is it of anyone to decide what someone else’s “needs” are?

Donger
09-16-2005, 08:07 AM
Only four in 10 wanted to promote the increased use of nuclear power, while slightly more than half opposed that step.

Just another example of the fact that at least 60% of the people in this country are dumb, panicky idiots.

redbrian
09-16-2005, 11:21 AM
“OR an SUV driver who drives 250 miles a week vs. a hybrid driver who drives 250 miles a week. That would be a valid comparison, but let’s not throw any logic into this.”

“am not an environmentalist by a long shot. However your proposition is illogical because if the person driving the SUV changes to a hybrid then they still save a tremendous amount of fuel over a year’s time.”

I’m not comparing two like commutes, I’m comparing two neighbors. One drives his SUV a short distance the other commutes 250 miles a week.

By switching to a hybrid the short (suv) commuter would virtually save nothing over a year.

Now having said that if you really want to save fuel, force the suburbanites to move closer to their work and have them either walk, bike or use public transportation.

The burbs waste more fuel than all of the suv's combined.

But hey lets just declare the SUV always evil, kill it off and it will save all of our problems.

Duck Dog
09-16-2005, 11:42 AM
I guess 8 out of 10 would really be pissed if they watched me fuel up my F250 and my bass boat. Then drive 100 miles to the boat ramp, then spend 2 days boating and fishing up and down the Mighty Miss.

They'd be really pissed if they met the same people I did at the river two weeks ago. 4 boats, each took $800.00 to fuel up.

StcChief
09-16-2005, 12:37 PM
Trucks big v8s, big SUVs, whats the difference.

Some need them for work in construction, etc.

Other soccer moms give you 'I feel safer in my SUV' as they run over things and don't know it.

Might as well as throw in anybody in any vehicle getting <= 15 mpg. Some sports cars, muscle cars included.

I question the Survey big time. Sample size seems small. making it a higher margin for error.

Plus the panicky, short attention span folks that dont think about any problems long enough to formulate a real opinion.

Lzen
09-16-2005, 12:59 PM
Not meaning to speak for RedBrian, but what I think he’s get’n at is these people don’t necessarily know what everyone else is using their SUV for. For someone that has to haul stuff or go to locations that aren’t paved, or even maintained, the current crop of Hybrids simpley won’t work.
Next year, Jeep is supposed to produce a Liberty Hybrid, Chevy has already advertised a Blazer Hybrid (with a 275 horse V-8 :thumb: ), and Ford is gonna offer the Explorer in a hybrid. But until that time, driving a hybrid just doesn’t work for some.
It’s true that some (many) don’t need SUV’s but what business is it of anyone to decide what someone else’s “needs” are?

And speaking of the hybrids, it would take you several years of driving to offset the initial higher price of a hybrid. It is just not practical to the average Joe. Plus, as you already made reference to, the currently available hybrids are small and weak. When the price drops on them and they make them bigger and more powereful, I'll definitely consider buying one. Until then, it's not for me.

That being said, I do believe there are a lot of people that drive trucks and SUVs that really have no use for them other than they are the latest trend. But who am I to tell anyone else what to drive or how to drive?