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Chiefs Pantalones
09-26-2005, 07:31 PM
Is that a teleprompter typo?

Green is a good QB, but I didn't know he stood in those #s.

siberian khatru
09-26-2005, 07:31 PM
That's Stu's eye acting up again.

VonneMarie
09-26-2005, 07:34 PM
That's what he said and it's TRUE.

DaKCMan AP
09-26-2005, 07:39 PM
Yeah, but it is misleading. Number one on the list is Kurt Warner, number 4 is Daunte Culpepper, and Jeff Garcia is also in the top 10.

Chiefs Pantalones
09-26-2005, 07:40 PM
Nice.

It's great to have Green.

Hog Rider
09-26-2005, 07:41 PM
Plummer must be number five then..eh Taco?

ChiefFripp
09-26-2005, 07:41 PM
This list is crap! I really wouldn't want any current QB other than Trent ,with the possible exception of Manning , to be The Chiefs QB, but 6th all time...c'mon!

jAZ
09-26-2005, 07:41 PM
It raises a question though... Is Trent Green on his way to Canton?

He is also 2nd only to Payton in passing yards since 2001.

What will it take for Trent to make it into the HOF?

leviw
09-26-2005, 07:43 PM
What will it take for Trent to make it into the HOF?

Don't know. Don't care. but he better have a mother f-ing SUPER BOWL ring if and when he does.

HolmeZz
09-26-2005, 07:43 PM
Trent needs a good 4 more years of good production to get into the HOF discussion.

And a Super Bowl ring wouldn't hurt. :)

Chiefs Pantalones
09-26-2005, 07:43 PM
It raises a question though... Is Trent Green on his way to Canton?

He is also 2nd only to Payton in passing yards since 2001.

What will it take for Trent to make it into the HOF?

Super Bowl ring, probably.

If not, it will be a long time before he gets past the first wave of eligible HOFamers.

He's a great QB, but the ring is what it's all about unless you put up Dan Marino #s.

DJay23
09-26-2005, 07:43 PM
It raises a question though... Is Trent Green on his way to Canton?

He is also 2nd only to Payton in passing yards since 2001.

What will it take for Trent to make it into the HOF?
Couple of rings.

It's not the Hall of pretty good, it's the Hall of Fame.

htismaqe
09-26-2005, 07:44 PM
It raises a question though... Is Trent Green on his way to Canton?

He is also 2nd only to Payton in passing yards since 2001.

What will it take for Trent to make it into the HOF?

A couple of Lombardi's.

Coach
09-26-2005, 07:44 PM
Green is deftinaly worthy of that first round pick we traded away, and more.

DaKCMan AP
09-26-2005, 07:44 PM
It raises a question though... Is Trent Green on his way to Canton?

He is also 2nd only to Payton in passing yards since 2001.

What will it take for Trent to make it into the HOF?

Superbowls. Plural.

StcChief
09-26-2005, 07:49 PM
It raises a question though... Is Trent Green on his way to Canton?

He is also 2nd only to Payton in passing yards since 2001.

What will it take for Trent to make it into the HOF?

I'd say more good years with 90 rating. Good passing yards every year

A Superbowl wouldn't hurt either.

NewChief
09-26-2005, 07:49 PM
Plummer must be number five then..eh Taco?


Nah. Dilfer is 5. Plummer is 4.

ChiefsFanatik88
09-26-2005, 07:56 PM
It raises a question though... Is Trent Green on his way to Canton?

He is also 2nd only to Payton in passing yards since 2001.

What will it take for Trent to make it into the HOF?

Two superbowl victories, 3 pro-bowls and 40 touchdowns per season

jAZ
09-26-2005, 08:09 PM
I'd be interested to see if the same people saying "multiple SBs" now would feel the same way if Trent keeps up his KC pace over the next 4 seasons. If he keeps his current pace for just 4 more years (keeps the TDs up and keeps his INTs down and % up), but never wins a superbowl,
that would give him the following career stats...

61% completions
38,000+ yards
227 TD's
149 INT's
90 QB Rating

I don't have an all time ranking on those yet, but they are at least in the vicinity of other HOFer's numbers at first glance.

jAZ
09-26-2005, 08:16 PM
61% completions
38,000+ yards
227 TD's
149 INT's
90 QB Rating
Yards: #10 all time
Passing TDs: #17 all time
Rating: 6th all time

Taco John
09-27-2005, 02:28 AM
If you guys believe that Trent Green is the sixth best quarterback of all time...

Count Alex's Losses
09-27-2005, 02:29 AM
If you guys believe that Trent Green is the sixth best quarterback of all time...

Nobody here does.

Pants
09-27-2005, 02:31 AM
If you guys believe that Trent Green is the sixth best quarterback of all time...

No, but he owns Plummer (BTW, tonight doesn't count, heh).

Fruit Ninja
09-27-2005, 05:21 AM
He has been a solid qb, he just doesnt have the 10 years of doing it. NO way he is a HoF quarterback. he probably wont ever get in there either. He gets no respect as it is from the national media.

Ugly Duck
09-29-2005, 02:02 AM
#5 Kerry Collins.... TD...6, INT...0, Rating.... 95.9
#12 Drew Brees.... TD...4, INT...3, Rating... 87.2
#19 Trent Green... TD...1, INT...1, Rating... 76.8
#26 Jake Plummer..TD.. 2, INT...3, Rating... 69.7

http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/PRAT/2005/regular

Count Alex's Losses
09-29-2005, 02:05 AM
#5 Kerry Collins.... TD...6, INT...0, Rating.... 95.9
#12 Drew Brees.... TD...4, INT...3, Rating... 87.2
#19 Trent Green... TD...1, INT...1, Rating... 76.8
#26 Jake Plummer..TD.. 2, INT...3, Rating... 69.7

http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/PRAT/2005/regular

Those numbers will not change by the end of the year. No way!

greg63
09-29-2005, 02:15 AM
Nice.

It's great to have Green.
Yup, it took me a couple of years to get "sold" on Green, but since then I've learned that he's the real deal. IMO.

Ugly Duck
09-29-2005, 02:16 AM
Those numbers will not change by the end of the year. No way!Hey.... this is your year. Ya gotta do it now cuz as the Cheifanz usta say, "The window is closing." Your guyz'r gettin' old. Its do or die. Its now or rebuild.

P.S. Here's the dude I'm excited about: That Andrew Walter kid we picked up in the 3rd round. Broke Elway's collegiate records & looks like our best QB. Check this out...

http://youtube.com/watch.php?v=T7Xncvswgp4&search=raiders

Mile High Mania
09-29-2005, 07:20 AM
Green is either 35 or will soon be 35, right? Time isn't exactly a friend of his...

+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| Year TM | G | Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT | Att Yards TD |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| 1997 was | 1 | 0 1 0.0 0 0.0 0 0 | 0 0 0 |
| 1998 was | 15 | 278 509 54.6 3441 6.8 23 11 | 42 117 2 |
| 2000 ram | 8 | 145 240 60.4 2063 8.6 16 5 | 20 69 1 |
| 2001 kan | 16 | 296 523 56.6 3783 7.2 17 24 | 35 158 0 |
| 2002 kan | 16 | 287 470 61.1 3690 7.9 26 13 | 31 225 1 |
| 2003 kan | 16 | 330 523 63.1 4039 7.7 24 12 | 26 83 2 |
| 2004 kan | 16 | 369 556 66.4 4591 8.3 27 17 | 25 85 0 |
| 2005 kan | 3 | 56 98 57.1 658 6.7 1 1 | 5 1 0 |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| TOTAL | 91 | 1761 2920 60.3 22265 7.6 134 83 | 184 738 6 |

www.profootballreference.com
Trent Green is not in the all-time top 50 in any major category.


I think a miracle is more of what he needs to get into Canton.

Amnorix
09-29-2005, 08:03 AM
Green would need a pretty spectacular last few years (probably at least 4-5) to even get into HOF consideration.

While I appreciate the #6 passer rating of all time thing, I'm not sure how much weight the voters really give that.

Has he been to a single pro bowl, even? He certainly has never been MVP. How many times has he led a team to the playoffs? How many playoff games has he won?

In addition to raw stats, the above stuff is considered pretty important too, and I don't think his numbers there are going to impress anyone.

Actually -- I just thought of this -- it gets worse for him -- he's not even considered one of the very best players on his own offense. Tony Gonzalez, Priest Holmes and Will Shields are considered to be among the very best at their positions. I'm not entirely sure that most people think Green makes the top 5 at his.

Yeah -- long odds for him, I'm afraid.

Lzen
09-29-2005, 09:34 AM
#5 Kerry Collins.... TD...6, INT...0, Rating.... 95.9
#12 Drew Brees.... TD...4, INT...3, Rating... 87.2
#19 Trent Green... TD...1, INT...1, Rating... 76.8
#26 Jake Plummer..TD.. 2, INT...3, Rating... 69.7

http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/PRAT/2005/regular

Awww, isn't that cute? A widdle waiduh fan trying to smack talk.
Try these stats

Trent Green's team W-L 2-1
Kerry Collins' team W-L 0-3

greg63
09-29-2005, 09:39 AM
Green would need a pretty spectacular last few years (probably at least 4-5) to even get into HOF consideration.

While I appreciate the #6 passer rating of all time thing, I'm not sure how much weight the voters really give that.

Has he been to a single pro bowl, even? He certainly has never been MVP. How many times has he led a team to the playoffs? How many playoff games has he won?

In addition to raw stats, the above stuff is considered pretty important too, and I don't think his numbers there are going to impress anyone.

Actually -- I just thought of this -- it gets worse for him -- he's not even considered one of the very best players on his own offense. Tony Gonzalez, Priest Holmes and Will Shields are considered to be among the very best at their positions. I'm not entirely sure that most people think Green makes the top 5 at his.

Yeah -- long odds for him, I'm afraid.

Don't forget about Roaf.