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kczoo
10-15-2005, 08:17 AM
Free agent after this year. I think Texans would re-sign, but he is accurate behind a solid line

Gaz
10-15-2005, 08:20 AM
Free agent after this year. I think Texans would re-sign, but he is accurate behind a solid line

Too bad the Chiefs will not have a solid line next year.

xoxo~
Gaz
Looking at some grim times down the road.

Mecca
10-15-2005, 08:22 AM
Are you saying you want the Chiefs to take a look at him? He's talented sure, but he's never developed. He's still in many ways the same QB he was his rookie year.

Now inspite of that even if the Chiefs did want him. I think that's pretty much a pipe dream. Say he gets out of Houston, could happen, new coach will likely be coming in next year. There are teams in this league that would pay him and make him the starter. I don't see Trent Green retiring after this year.

With the cap issues we are going to have next year, I don't see how we could afford him and I don't see him wanting to be a backup till Trent hangs it up.

It's a nice thought but it's pretty unlikely in my view.

JimNasium
10-15-2005, 08:25 AM
I just can't see us in the mix for a quarterback like Carr until Trent retires. :shake:

Skip Towne
10-15-2005, 08:25 AM
Like Gaz says, we need to address more immediate issues like the O line and WR.

NaptownChief
10-15-2005, 08:32 AM
Gaz
Looking at some grim times down the road.



As opposed to these really good times we had on the road of present? :D

Gaz
10-15-2005, 08:34 AM
As opposed to these really good times we had on the road of present? :D

Poe-TAY-toe, poe-TAH-toe.

xoxo~
Gaz
Lived through some truly grim days as a Chiefs fan.

nychief
10-15-2005, 08:38 AM
I just can't see us in the mix for a quarterback like Carr until Trent retires. :shake:


I disagree.. I could see us taking a flyer on one of CP's loves.. JOEY HARRIGTON, after he gets the boot in the next year.

chefsos
10-15-2005, 08:48 AM
Poe-TAY-toe, poe-TAH-toe.

xoxo~
Gaz
Lived through some truly grim days as a Chiefs fan.

Absolutely. Two words: Paul Wiggin.

NaptownChief
10-15-2005, 09:01 AM
I disagree.. I could see us taking a flyer on one of CP's loves.. JOEY HARRIGTON, after he gets the boot in the next year.


Given Green's age this situation should be very attractive to a free agent talent that wants a first or second shot at being a starting QB in the league.

Guys like Carr, Harrington, A.Brooks are some I think their current team could give up on soon. Harrington and Brooks don't interest me at all as they have had decent situations around them and pretty much don't get it done. Carr would be the one that interest me most as he has had a horrible OLine his whole time in Houston which means there is certainly a chance that he could still be special if given some protection. He is still a talented player with unknown upside. I think Harrington and Brooks upside is known.

Rex Grossman is another talent that might be had for beans if Orton keeps playing well. He has had horrible luck with injuries and probably won't be handed the starting job when he comes back....So he could be cut loose.

Tim Rattay is another possibility....He has looked pretty good for being on a bad team. He is a FA after next season and his contract is for $1.25 mil which is probably more than the 9ers want to pay for a backup.

Even if they don't go after one of these bigger name types they need to get some young talent with upside into the system and give them a chance of having something without causing a big rebuilding problem when Green is done. Derrick Anderson who Baltimore moved up and down from the practice squad is a guy I would like to snag if they move him back to the practice squad after Boller comes back.

tomahawk kid
10-15-2005, 09:02 AM
I'm still thinking that the Chiefs are gonna take a run at Harrington, after the Lions dump his ass.

NaptownChief
10-15-2005, 09:03 AM
Just noticed that the Browns already took my idea and snatched Derek Anderson of the Ravens practice squad and put him on their roster.

Count Alex's Wins
10-15-2005, 09:05 AM
Ugh, just say no to Aaron Brooks.

nychief
10-15-2005, 09:06 AM
Ugh, just say no to Aaron Brooks.

agreed. www.dumbqb.com

Chiefnj
10-15-2005, 09:11 AM
Why would a new coach, who likely will have a 3 year plan want to start with Trent at QB when Trent likely only has 1-2 years left? Wouldn't he rather start with a younger QB who will last the full 3 years and who is still developing? On offense there isn't much of a nucleus to build around. Within the next two years KC will lose Trent, Holmes, (LJ will be a FA), Shields, Roaf, TRich, Gonzo will be able to void his contract, Kennison will be near the end of his career. All the pro-bowl caliber guys are likely gone.

Extra Point
10-15-2005, 09:13 AM
No. Draft Russell from LSU. Draft an OT and a DT, trade for line help. I can see the similarity between Green and Carr, but don't see it happening.

Kraut
10-15-2005, 09:14 AM
I just can't see us in the mix for a quarterback like Carr until Trent retires. :shake:
I agree. I don't think Carr would be a good replacement after Green anyhow. It would take too much time to try to mold him into a good QB. Not worth the headaches.

nychief
10-15-2005, 09:17 AM
I get the feeling we are going to have to pry the jersey off Trent.

Mecca
10-15-2005, 09:27 AM
No. Draft Russell from LSU. Draft an OT and a DT, trade for line help. I can see the similarity between Green and Carr, but don't see it happening.

JeMarcus Russell isn't exactly a standout college QB at this point so wanting to draft him right now isn't my cup of tea.

Extra Point
10-15-2005, 09:48 AM
Seen Russell with a good line? Draft him way low, he'd be worth the effort, and worth the pay.

NaptownChief
10-15-2005, 10:13 AM
Seen Russell with a good line? Draft him way low, he'd be worth the effort, and worth the pay.


I don't know....Ever time I have tried to move the ball through the air with LSU on NCAA 2006 for PS2 he really stinks it up and I have to bring in Periloux. No better measure for talent than EASports on PS2.

1st & Goal
10-15-2005, 10:45 AM
The guy I'd like to see in K.C. after Green retires is Drew Brees but that won't happen.

JBucc
10-15-2005, 10:48 AM
The guy I'd like to see in K.C. after Green retires is Drew Brees but that won't happen.They'll have to get rid of one of their guys eventually

1st & Goal
10-15-2005, 10:51 AM
They'll have to get rid of one of their guys eventually

True and I think it'll be Rivers they let go instead of Brees. Besides, I doubt the Chiefs could afford Drew.

NaptownChief
10-15-2005, 10:51 AM
The guy I'd like to see in K.C. after Green retires is Drew Brees but that won't happen.

Welcome to the board...Good to see another Hoosier Chief fan....I'm guessing you are a PeeYew Fan with that Brees request and being from Indiana. Is that the case?

1st & Goal
10-15-2005, 10:55 AM
Welcome to the board...Good to see another Hoosier Chief fan....I'm guessing you are a PewYew Fan with that Brees request and being from Indiana. Is that the case?

Your right my friend.:) Don't tell me your a Hoosier or even worse, a Irish fan...lol....Good to see someone from this area on here.

NaptownChief
10-15-2005, 10:59 AM
Your right my friend.:) Don't tell me your a Hoosier or even worse, a Irish fan...lol....Good to see someone from this area on here.


Season ticket holder for the Hoosiers and a mild Irish fan...Hating them during the Lou"Dirt Bag" Holtz era but liked them before and after.

Shipped sure has crashed at PeeYew after such high hopes this season hasn't it...


And btw, how have you gotten five green rep dots after just 10 or so posts? You repping yourself? Guys keep on eye on this cat, you can't trust these PeeYew fans. :D

Mr. Laz
10-15-2005, 11:05 AM
we prolly won't be in the market for a veteran QB until 2007 or 2008.

at least a potiential starter.


i'd keep an eye out for Schaub in Atlanta though.

B_Ambuehl
10-15-2005, 11:08 AM
Rex Grossman is another talent that might be had for beans if Orton keeps playing well. He has had horrible luck with injuries and probably won't be handed the starting job when he comes back....So he could be cut loose.

Tim Rattay is another possibility....He has looked pretty good for being on a bad team. He is a FA after next season and his contract is for $1.25 mil which is probably more than the 9ers want to pay for a backup


Good call. I had mentioned Rattay's name last month and was just thinking of Grossman last night. The benefit of a Chicago quarterback is they run the same system so if the offense stays the same here that would be a likely possibility. I think Rattay can play in the KC system provided the offensive system stays intact.

1st & Goal
10-15-2005, 12:04 PM
Season ticket holder for the Hoosiers and a mild Irish fan...Hating them during the Lou"Dirt Bag" Holtz era but liked them before and after.

Shipped sure has crashed at PeeYew after such high hopes this season hasn't it...


And btw, how have you gotten five green rep dots after just 10 or so posts? You repping yourself? Guys keep on eye on this cat, you can't trust these PeeYew fans. :D

Yeah this has been the year from hell, even worse than last year for us Purdue fans. Between the failed attempt at the option and our defense not showing up so far this season it's been ugly. Hep has that other team playing pretty good...they still have yet to beat a solid team however :)

I didn't even know we had "rep dots"....lol

Mr. Rat Fink
10-15-2005, 12:18 PM
Seen Russell with a good line? Draft him way low, he'd be worth the effort, and worth the pay.

He's a sophomore.

Skip Towne
10-15-2005, 12:19 PM
Season ticket holder for the Hoosiers and a mild Irish fan...Hating them during the Lou"Dirt Bag" Holtz era but liked them before and after.

Shipped sure has crashed at PeeYew after such high hopes this season hasn't it...


And btw, how have you gotten five green rep dots after just 10 or so posts? You repping yourself? Guys keep on eye on this cat, you can't trust these PeeYew fans. :D
What's wrong with Lou Holtz?

1st & Goal
10-15-2005, 12:27 PM
Alot of Carr's problem is he hangs on to the ball for so long when under pressure.

NaptownChief
10-15-2005, 01:17 PM
What's wrong with Lou Holtz?



Other than being a liar and a cheat....absolutely nothing.

Skip Towne
10-15-2005, 01:39 PM
Other than being a liar and a cheat....absolutely nothing.
When did he lie and who did he cheat?

Extra Point
10-15-2005, 01:55 PM
He's a sophomore.

I didn't think he was that young. He's doing a good job for LSU. Just read an article on the Capitol One bowl win over Iowa. He seems to know how to win.

NaptownChief
10-15-2005, 02:01 PM
When did he lie and who did he cheat?


He put every team he coached in trouble for cheating...Minn, ND and South Carolina....

And back when he was at ND there was a player that went public and was a Sports Illustrated cover story about how Holtz implied that players better use roids or they aren't trying hard enough.....Could just have been a disgruntled player but the fact he has been a big cheat at every school he has been I would be much more apt to believe the kid was telling the truth.

Mr. Rat Fink
10-15-2005, 02:01 PM
I didn't think he was that young. He's doing a good job for LSU. Just read an article on the Capitol One bowl win over Iowa. He seems to know how to win.

Uhhh, LSU LOST that game. Russell did a good job, but he didn't even play the full game, he took about half the snaps.

Extra Point
10-15-2005, 02:05 PM
Sorry, my bad. "apparent win" with 0:46 left.

Spicy McHaggis
10-15-2005, 02:25 PM
Young QB's I wouldn't mind in KC:

Schaub, Harrington, Ramsey, Brees

1st & Goal
10-15-2005, 02:28 PM
Young QB's I wouldn't mind in KC:

Schaub, Harrington, Ramsey, Brees

Yeah besides my personal request for Brees I would'nt mind seeing Ramsey or Schaub either.

Deberg_1990
10-15-2005, 02:32 PM
Young QB's I wouldn't mind in KC:

Schaub, Harrington, Ramsey, Brees

Id raher trade up and grab Leinert next year before any of these guys. Schaub has alot of potential though.