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runnercyclist
10-16-2005, 06:47 AM
Could have interesting names on it

or

not on it.

Warfield?

Arrington?

JBucc
10-16-2005, 06:49 AM
I don't know

KCFalcon59
10-16-2005, 09:15 AM
Grretz just said Warfield on inactive list. ****

runnercyclist
10-16-2005, 09:36 AM
Grretz just said Warfield on inactive list. ****


Where did gretz get this info? I'd like to see the entire list for both teams.

Wile_E_Coyote
10-16-2005, 09:39 AM
Shawn Springs out-Holthus

wazu
10-16-2005, 09:41 AM
Where did gretz get this info? I'd like to see the entire list for both teams.

It's time for us to face the sad truth. Vermeil needs to be fired.

Bwana
10-16-2005, 09:42 AM
It's time for us to face the sad truth. Vermeil needs to be fired.

I faced that fact along time ago bud.

Wile_E_Coyote
10-16-2005, 09:43 AM
Holthus said Gun's call on Warfield

4th and Long
10-16-2005, 09:43 AM
It's time for us to face the sad truth. Vermeil needs to be fired.
Mitch said this was Gun's decision, not Vermeil's.

Count Zarth
10-16-2005, 09:43 AM
Shawn Springs out-Holthus

Awesome!

wazu
10-16-2005, 09:44 AM
Mitch said this was Gun's decision, not Vermeil's.

Who does Gun work for?

KCFalcon59
10-16-2005, 09:45 AM
Mitch said this was Gun's decision, not Vermeil's.

I don't believe that for a minute. I bet it is Gun taking a hit for DV.

Deberg_1990
10-16-2005, 09:46 AM
Obviously, there is something more to this story. I think Gun is extremely pissed at Warfield and this is his way of sending a message. Lets hope they grow out of this pissing match real quick.

Mr. Krab
10-16-2005, 09:46 AM
Who does Gun work for?
yep, no excuse for not having Warfield ready to play.

Mr. Krab
10-16-2005, 09:48 AM
Obviously, there is something more to this story. I think Gun is extremely pissed at Warfield and this is his way of sending a message. Lets hope they grow out of this pissing match real quick.
Didn't Gunther have 5 weeks to deal with this problem without having to hurt the rest of the team doing it?

wazu
10-16-2005, 09:49 AM
Obviously, there is something more to this story. I think Gun is extremely pissed at Warfield and this is his way of sending a message. Lets hope they grow out of this pissing match real quick.

If that is the case, then it's just another emotional, irrational decision by a coaching staff that consistently fails to see what is readily apparent to the casual observer.

Skip Towne
10-16-2005, 09:51 AM
VD is more interested in preserving his little system than he is in winning. He is unable to adapt to the realities of the present. I've always liked him and still do but he is no longer suited to be a HC.

Deberg_1990
10-16-2005, 09:51 AM
If that is the case, then it's just another emotional, irrational decision by a coaching staff that consistently fails to see what is readily apparent to the casual observer.

Exactly. But I do believe there is much more to the story that we dont know about yet. Either, hes not ready to play, or they dont like his attitude?? There has to be something. Not everything leaks to the media. Maybe we will know later on??

wazu
10-16-2005, 09:53 AM
Exactly. But I do believe there is much more to the story that we dont know about yet. Either, hes not ready to play, or they dont like his attitude?? There has to be something. Not everything leaks to the media. Maybe we will know later on??

Lets explore the possibilities:

1. Not ready to play.

Who is responsible for making sure that the players are ready to play?

2. Don't like his attitude.

Since when is Warfield an attitude problem? Let's not forget this is the same coaching staff that sidelines Priest Holmes in critical situations just to get Larry "Diaper Boy" Johnson his fair share of reps.

Deberg_1990
10-16-2005, 09:55 AM
Another curiosity to ponder. I wonder why Welbourne is ready to play this weekend but not Warfield??? Didnt he let the team down as much as Warfield did??

Mr. Krab
10-16-2005, 09:58 AM
Exactly. But I do believe there is much more to the story that we dont know about yet. Either, hes not ready to play, or they dont like his attitude?? There has to be something. Not everything leaks to the media. Maybe we will know later on??
Eric Warfield could workout, so if he's not ready to play the chiefs are partly to blame. If they needed to send a message they should of worked Warfield out until he puked every single day. Then he would of received the message and been ready to help the team.

Cochise
10-16-2005, 09:58 AM
So we find out that it was Gun's call on whether Warfield was ready but somehow it's still Vermeil's fault. Shocking.

Mr. Krab
10-16-2005, 10:00 AM
So we find out that it was Gun's call on whether Warfield was ready but somehow it's still Vermeil's fault. Shocking.
Vermeil is the head coach and responsible for the decisions and methods of his coaches.

4th and Long
10-16-2005, 10:04 AM
Vermeil is the head coach and responsible for the decisions and methods of his coaches.
It's obvious people like you have no idea how a business is run. Your scenario involves micromanagement. No one will work for people who micromanage. Coaches have to be allowed the freedom to make certain decisions without question. That's the way things work. Learn to live with it and stop crying.

Cochise
10-16-2005, 10:05 AM
Vermeil is the head coach and responsible for the decisions and methods of his coaches.

Cunningham is the defensive coordinator. He apparently makes the personnel decisions on that side of the ball. What is Vermeil supposed to do, order Cunningham to start a player that he doesn't think is ready enough to even be active?

Why will no one on this board ever blame Cunningham for anything negative?

Realistically folks. The defense is no better than it was under Greg Robinson - even with more playmakers. Cunningham is not getting it done. I know that he's more popular than Jesus around here, but at what point will he take accountability from the fans?

He has done NOTHING since he came back. I love the guy too, and I hated Grob as much as the next guy, but he is NOT getting it done.

If the D doesn't improve by the end of this season. Cunningham needs to be packing up his office too.

Cochise
10-16-2005, 10:11 AM
It's obvious people like you have no idea how a business is run. Your scenario involves micromanagement. No one will work for people who micromanage. Coaches have to be allowed the freedom to make certain decisions without question. That's the way things work. Learn to live with it and stop crying.

Thank you.

Was Vermeil supposed to overrule the defensive coordinator about whether a defensive player was ready? "Gunther, I don't care that he didn't get any first team reps, I order you to start him"?

Who would work for a boss like that? It's like the CEO of a company telling the tech specialists how their servers could be configured.

No one here says that Vermeil is a defensive genius. But when he does keep his hands out of the broth and lets Gunther have control, like most people say they want him to do, he STILL takes the blame.

Mr. Krab
10-16-2005, 10:14 AM
It's obvious people like you have no idea how a business is run. Your scenario involves micromanagement. No one will work for people who micromanage. Coaches have to be allowed the freedom to make certain decisions without question. That's the way things work. Learn to live with it and stop crying.
So what kind of people am i? I'm really interested in the extensive knowledge you have acquired of me after my 110 posts.

who's crying?

I'm a business manager so i think i have some idea of how things are run.

Dick Vermeil could of easily had an quick impromptu meeting after the philly game to determine a strategy to make sure the returning players like Roaf,Welbourn and Warfield were ready to play. In fact, i believe he probably did for the returning offensive players.

4th and Long
10-16-2005, 10:14 AM
Thank you.

Was Vermeil supposed to overrule the defensive coordinator about whether a defensive player was ready? "Gunther, I don't care that he didn't get any first team reps, I order you to start him"?

Who would work for a boss like that? It's like the CEO of a company telling the tech specialists how their servers could be configured.

No one here says that Vermeil is a defensive genius. But when he does keep his hands out of the broth and lets Gunther have control, like most people say they want him to do, he STILL takes the blame.
You're welcome. :)

The kids on the board need a life lesson on how a business is run.

4th and Long
10-16-2005, 10:17 AM
So what kind of people am i? I'm really interested in the extensive knowledge you have acquired of me after my 110 posts.

who's crying?

I'm a business manager so i think have have some idea of how things are run.

Dick Vermeil could of easily had an quick impromptu meeting after the philly game to determine a strategy to make sure the returning players like Roaf,Welbourn and Warfield were ready to play. In fact, i believe he probably did for the returning offensive players.
If I worked for you as a defensive coordinator and you pestered me and second guessed my decision making process, as you're implying vermeil should do with Cunningham, I'd tell you to take your job and shove it up your ass. That would leave Vermeil without a defensive coordinator.

Catching on yet, Einstein?

Cochise
10-16-2005, 10:18 AM
You're welcome. :)

The kids on the board need a life lesson on how a business is run.

Quiet down. I'm a business manager, therefore I know which Chiefs players should be active and which shouldn't.

4th and Long
10-16-2005, 10:19 AM
Quiet down. I'm a business manager, therefore I know which Chiefs players should be active and which shouldn't.
ROFL ROFL ROFL

Cochise
10-16-2005, 10:19 AM
In fact, i believe he probably did for the returning offensive players.

You have some great inside info. Did you sneak into practice for the past two weeks or something to overhear all this?

chiefsfaninNC
10-16-2005, 10:20 AM
Where did gretz get this info? I'd like to see the entire list for both teams.
kcchiefs.com has the list posted.

Mr. Krab
10-16-2005, 10:24 AM
If I worked for you as a defensive coordinator and you pestered me and second guessed my decision making process, as you're implying vermeil should do with Cunningham, I'd tell you to take your job and shove it up your ass. That would leave Vermeil without a defensive coordinator.

Catching on yet, Einstein?
That's why he has a pre-emptive meeting to make sure that there is a plan in place to prevent these issues from occuring in the first place.

I'm still waiting for all this information you have of me that allowed you to categorize me after a handful of posts. I've been in upper echelon management for going on 20+ years.

How about you, brainiac?

Cochise
10-16-2005, 10:28 AM
That's why he has a pre-emptive meeting to make sure that there is a plan in place to prevent these issues from occuring in the first place.

The thing is, you don't have any more of a clue if there was or wasn't a plan or any of the reasons why this situation turned out the way it has than the rest of us do. But you're settled on your factless theory as ultimate truth. At least we are honest with ourselves enough to admit that we're not football coaches, we don't know the player's situation, we don't know the decisionmaking process, we didn't see practice, or anything like that.

4th and Long
10-16-2005, 11:00 AM
The thing is, you don't have any more of a clue if there was or wasn't a plan or any of the reasons why this situation turned out the way it has than the rest of us do. But you're settled on your factless theory as ultimate truth. At least we are honest with ourselves enough to admit that we're not football coaches, we don't know the player's situation, we don't know the decisionmaking process, we didn't see practice, or anything like that.
Exactly. You'd think a guy with 20 + years of upper management would know these things. Of course, I'd also think he knew how to spell simple, every day words like preemptive and occurring.

Cochise
10-16-2005, 03:53 PM
Oops - Vermeil directly contradicted our hallowed upper management expert on the 101.1 pregame show. He said that he wanted Warfield active, but Gun didn't. "I gave in" Vermeil said, direct quote.

4th and Long
10-16-2005, 03:56 PM
Oops - Vermeil directly contradicted our hallowed upper management expert on the 101.1 pregame show. He said that he wanted Warfield active, but Gun didn't. "I gave in" Vermeil said, direct quote.
What a shock!

Cochise
10-16-2005, 03:57 PM
What a shock!

Obviously Vermeil lacks upper management experience (angels singing on high). Bow, mortals!! :wayne:

4th and Long
10-16-2005, 04:08 PM
Obviously Vermeil lacks upper management experience (angels singing on high). Bow, mortals!! :wayne:
ROFL ROFL ROFL

You're killing me today!!! ROFL