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cmh6476
10-17-2005, 09:59 AM
We now have some injury concerns with parker (knee) and McCleon (groin).

The coaching staff seems hell-bent on sticking with these guys, for whatever reasons. Yes, Parker did play better yesterday than he has all seaosn. But he's also played poorly in previous outings. And we all saw how bad McCleon played yesterday.

Could this team be better with Boerigter and either Warfield or Washington being forced to start?

I know you never want to wish injuries on anyone. But I'm not sure the coaching staff is going to get their head out of their ass and realize they may be shooting themselves in the foot by leaving McCleon out there, and possibly even Parker.

I like Parker, don't get me wrong. I'm just not sure if we wouldn't be better off by starting Boerigter as our possession guy opposite Kennison, and having Parker be our No. 3 and deep threat.

And no one can convince me we are better off with McCleon starting in the secondary...

tyton75
10-17-2005, 10:02 AM
Well.. I can't disagree with that.

morphius
10-17-2005, 10:03 AM
I was happy that Boe held onto the ball yesterday, I remember his second year he made Parkers hands look solid.

I was actually going to start putting little bricks in my sig pic for every ball Parker dropped in a given week, but he actually held on yesterday to everything that was catchable.

morphius
10-17-2005, 10:05 AM
I have to wonder if Hicks would go down if Hall and Allen would be a better combo, assuming Hall can stay healthy.

Bowser
10-17-2005, 10:06 AM
I have to wonder if Hicks would go down if Hall and Allen would be a better combo, assuming Hall can stay healthy.

Hall is obviously not a "profile" guy.

Mr. Kotter
10-17-2005, 10:07 AM
They could, but....

How about this? Even if their injuries don't put them on the bench....maybe the coaches can? :cuss:

I mean, Parker is still young and learning (hopefully), but there is no excuse for McCleon at this point. Sit their butts down; maybe that will light a fire under them. Or it may help us find more capable replacements--eg, Boerigter, Warfield, or Washington, etc.

cmh6476
10-17-2005, 10:08 AM
I have to wonder if Hicks would go down if Hall and Allen would be a better combo, assuming Hall can stay healthy.
well, maybe. But we cannot afford an injury on the D-Line. There are already enough questions there as it is. A key injury to the DL could really kill us.

cmh6476
10-17-2005, 10:09 AM
They could, but....

How about this? Even if their injuries don't put them on the bench....maybe the coaches can? :cuss:

I mean, Parker is still young and learning (hopefully), but there is no excuse for McCleon at this point. Sit their butts down; maybe that will light a fire under them. Or it may help us find more capable replacements--eg, Boerigter, Warfield, or Washington, etc.
And I guess there's always the Vermeil standard, "a guy cannot lose a starting job because of an injury" that we would have to deal with as well :(

brent102fire
10-17-2005, 10:16 AM
It looked to me like McCleon has been playing with two pulled hamstrings all year... :banghead: :cuss: :mad: :shake:

NaptownChief
10-17-2005, 03:03 PM
We now have some injury concerns with parker (knee) and McCleon (groin).

The coaching staff seems hell-bent on sticking with these guys, for whatever reasons.



To answer your question....unfortunately, yes...


It is quite clear to all that Vermeil has the emotional stability and logical thinking of a 13 year old teenage girl on her first menstrual cycle. He can't make an unemotional, logical decision if his life depended on it. He falls into a man crush with someone at the drop of a hat and easily gets scorned and holds grudges to match.

He clearly wouldn't have accomplished as much as he has as a football coach if he weren't a good football mind but his complete inability to make personnel decisions without emotion holds this team back.

If Parker and McCling-on are out for a couple weeks there is little doubt in my mind that the team won't be better off.

StcChief
10-17-2005, 03:10 PM
Putting others on field can't hurt.

Bo looked good yesterday. Parker injury sucks. Depth and speed will force Dante into some of the passing situations (deep routes) he would get.

McPasson. welcome Warfield back to start with chance to prove himself.

Valiant
10-17-2005, 03:41 PM
McClown hurt his groin??? Did he leave it on the field after letting everything get by him, or when he held so they could not get past him???

Count Alex's Losses
10-17-2005, 03:43 PM
Dewayne Washington was about to give up the game-tying TD if Sammy Knight hadn't saved his ass.

Dexter McCleon > Dewayne Washington.

NaptownChief
10-17-2005, 03:44 PM
Dexter McCleon > Dewayne Washington.


Who cares...neither of them should ever see the field unless we are in a dime.

Count Alex's Losses
10-17-2005, 03:45 PM
Who cares...neither of them should ever see the field unless we are in a dime.

Yep.

BTW, speaking of DBs, I couldn't BELIEVE that Sapp missed that sack yesterday. Keep your friggin' head up, moron!!!!!

Seek
10-17-2005, 03:50 PM
Sad to say it will help. But not enough.

Wesley has got to get his head out of his ass. He is still playing SS when we need him to play FS.

Lzen
10-17-2005, 04:18 PM
Dexter McCleon > Dewayne Washington.

That's what I thought.......until yesterday. Sure, he was beaten on that last play (thank goodness for Sammie Knight), but he was solid for the most part. He played much better than Dex, IMO.

Calcountry
10-17-2005, 04:58 PM
I was happy that Boe held onto the ball yesterday, I remember his second year he made Parkers hands look solid.

I was actually going to start putting little bricks in my sig pic for every ball Parker dropped in a given week, but he actually held on yesterday to everything that was catchable.He even almost got credit for a catch that skipped on the dirt.

Thig Lyfe
10-17-2005, 05:18 PM
I'd like to see Parker develop a bit, but he should really be working the slot right now.

Chiefs Pantalones
10-17-2005, 05:29 PM
God's a Chiefs fan.

DTLB58
10-17-2005, 07:00 PM
To answer your question....unfortunately, yes...


It is quite clear to all that Vermeil has the emotional stability and logical thinking of a 13 year old teenage girl on her first menstrual cycle. He can't make an unemotional, logical decision if his life depended on it. He falls into a man crush with someone at the drop of a hat and easily gets scorned and holds grudges to match.

He clearly wouldn't have accomplished as much as he has as a football coach if he weren't a good football mind but his complete inability to make personnel decisions without emotion holds this team back.
If Parker and McCling-on are out for a couple weeks there is little doubt in my mind that the team won't be better off.

That is Focking HILARIOUS. ROFL

And the second comment I bolded is so true. I refer back to when Vermeil was taking all the heat for keeping GROB and Vermeil himself said "I am sometime loyal to a fault"

cmh6476
10-17-2005, 11:54 PM
God's a Chiefs fan.


http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=125947


ROFL ROFL

cmh6476
10-20-2005, 05:20 PM
guess we'll find out :thumb: