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jcl-kcfan2
10-20-2005, 03:12 PM
Won't be broadcast to outside "Home" areas no way no how, basicly says we are S.O.L.!

I live out of the KC area yet I still find a way to spend one to two thousand a year on following the Chiefs.

It pisses me off how the NFL just says "tough shit to you" to loyal fans of the game.

runnercyclist
10-20-2005, 03:14 PM
What is your source? Facts please.

jcl-kcfan2
10-20-2005, 03:15 PM
That is from Matt in the NFL media relations department.

SLAG
10-20-2005, 03:17 PM
Remember according to Carl .... The only Real fans are the season Ticket Holders

|Zach|
10-20-2005, 03:19 PM
Remember according to Carl .... The only Real fans are the season Ticket Holders
Sorry I call bullshit, that whole things was taken so far out of context.

runnercyclist
10-20-2005, 03:19 PM
What is "Matt's" phone number? How did you get it? What is the justification? What about NFL Sunday ticket holders? How does this differ from a regular Sunday game?

I still have hope.

I don't see how they can arrive at that decision and feel it is a good one???

jcl-kcfan2
10-20-2005, 03:59 PM
212-450-2000 ask for media relations

jidar
10-20-2005, 04:02 PM
I just got Matts voicemail and let him know how I feel. This is horseshit.

Skip Towne
10-20-2005, 04:04 PM
What is "Matt's" phone number? How did you get it? What is the justification? What about NFL Sunday ticket holders? How does this differ from a regular Sunday game?

I still have hope.

I don't see how they can arrive at that decision and feel it is a good one???
ST holders can get it on ch.706.

jidar
10-20-2005, 04:07 PM
Wow, we're probably up shit creek here.
This has happened before and they didn't cave, look at this crap: http://www.voluntarytrade.org/newsite/modules/news/article.php?storyid=12

Arlington, VA, September 10, 2004—In order to avoid potential liability under a 1966 amendment to the antitrust laws, the National Football League will not nationally televise a rescheduled game between the Tennessee Titans and the Miami Dolphins, said Skip Oliva, president of Citizens for Voluntary Trade, during an interview tonight on Fox Sports Radio’s “Game Time with Steve Czaban.”

The Dolphins-Titans game, originally scheduled for this Sunday, was rescheduled for Saturday at 1 p.m. due to the projected path of Hurricane Ivan. While the game will be telecast by CBS in South Florida and four Tennessee markets, it will not be available on cable, broadcast, or satellite to the rest of the nation.

Oliva said the NFL imposed the blackout to avoid possible antitrust sanctions. Although contracts between television networks and professional sports leagues are immune from antitrust scrutiny under a 1961 congressional exemption, a superseding 1966 law withdrew immunity for any professional football game telecast on Friday night or Saturday if any high school or college football game was being played within 75 miles of the broadcast station that same day.

The 1966 rule was part of a law exempting the NFL’s merger with the American Football League from antitrust review. Oliva said the National Collegiate Athletic Association lobbied Congress for the Friday-Saturday ban in order to prevent the NFL from telecasting games at the same time most college and high school football games were being played.

According to Oliva, the NFL could telecast the Saturday game nationally, but doing so would open the league up to an antitrust lawsuit from any college or high school that has a game scheduled that day.

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Title 15, United States Code.

Section 1291-Exemption from antitrust laws of agreements covering the telecasting of sports contests and the combining of professional football leagues


The antitrust laws, as defined in section 1 of the Act of October 15, 1914, as amended (38 Stat. 730) (15 U.S.C. 12), or in the Federal Trade Commission Act, as amended (38 Stat. 717) (15 U.S.C. 41 et seq.), shall not apply to any joint agreement by or among persons engaging in or conducting the organized professional team sports of football, baseball, basketball, or hockey, by which any league of clubs participating in professional football, baseball, basketball, or hockey contests sells or otherwise transfers all or any part of the rights of such league's member clubs in the sponsored telecasting of the games of football, baseball, basketball, or hockey, as the case may be, engaged in or conducted by such clubs. In addition, such laws shall not apply to a joint agreement by which the member clubs of two or more professional football leagues, which are exempt from income tax under section 501(c)(6) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (26 U.S.C. 501(c)(6)), combine their operations in expanded single league so exempt from income tax, if such agreement increases rather than decreases the number of professional football clubs so operating, and the provisions of which are directly relevant thereto


Section 1293-Intercollegiate and interscholastic football contest limitations

The first sentence of section 1291 of this title shall not apply to any joint agreement described in such section which permits the telecasting of all or a substantial part of any professional football game on any Friday after six o'clock postmeridian or on any Saturday during the period beginning on the second Friday in September and ending on the second Saturday in December in any year from any telecasting station located within seventy-five miles of the game site of any intercollegiate or interscholastic football contest scheduled to be played on such a date if -

(1) such intercollegiate football contest is between institutions of higher learning both of which confer degrees upon students following completion of sufficient credit hours to equal a four-year course, or

(2) in the case of an interscholastic football contest, such contest is between secondary schools, both of which are accredited or certified under the laws of the State or States in which they are situated and offer courses continuing through the twelfth grade of the standard school curriculum, or the equivalent, and

(3) such intercollegiate or interscholastic football contest and such game site were announced through publication in a newspaper of general circulation prior to August 1 of such year as being regularly scheduled for such day and place.

tk13
10-20-2005, 04:12 PM
Good find. I'm not surprised by that... although I know ESPN has had college football that night before. It'll be interesting to see what they decide... according to that DirecTV would be opening themselves up to an antitrust suit.

Amnorix
10-20-2005, 04:21 PM
You guys need to understand that the NFL doesn't have any real choice here. It's not like they don't WANT to show it. They can't unless they are willing to open up a Pandora's Box of trouble, which would be unbelievably stupid.

jidar
10-20-2005, 04:26 PM
That's horseshit though. If they would just let the local affiliates broadcast it who aren't otherwise broadcasting a highschool or college football game then they would be all right.

ChiefsGirl
10-20-2005, 04:27 PM
You guys need to understand that the NFL doesn't have any real choice here. It's not like they don't WANT to show it. They can't unless they are willing to open up a Pandora's Box of trouble, which would be unbelievably stupid.

How were they able to nationally televise the Saints/Giants game that was rescheduled?

tk13
10-20-2005, 04:29 PM
How were they able to nationally televise the Saints/Giants game that was rescheduled?
That was a Monday Night... there is no high school/college football that night.

jidar
10-20-2005, 04:29 PM
It was on a monday. That law I posted specifically talks about friday and saturday games not being allowed to be nationally televised.

Brock
10-20-2005, 04:30 PM
The lawyers have found a way to **** you again.

Calcountry
10-20-2005, 04:35 PM
The lawyers have found a way to **** you again.Its time to work DTV, and then maybe they can get a Hurricane contingency built into their fuggin contract, the dicks. Swear to God, they wouldn't broadcast a Saints game to a dude in Sacramento, even though he had to relocate their cause his home is flooded. Fugen heartless bastards the NFL is, bend over and take it you fan.

KC Dan
10-20-2005, 05:03 PM
This is for CBS, the NFL, ESPN, Saul, and anyone else who busts on those of us unfortunate enough to not pick the game up on TV tomorrow:

Clint in Wichita
10-20-2005, 05:09 PM
I was already close to dropping football already. I mean making a conscious choice to stop being a fan of football in all its forms.


This does not help.

MahiMike
10-20-2005, 05:14 PM
Will this game be broadcast ANYWHERE? I thought the NFL loved these storms so they could get more $ for extra games.

Mile High Mania
10-20-2005, 05:21 PM
Here's a question...

How many of you were getting the game on Sunday (outside of Direct TV folks)? This is a potential disaster of major proportions here and you guys are crying about the NFL and the networks breaking one off in you.

Do you really think the NFL wants to pass up on the chance to get additional advertising revenues?

jvan05
10-20-2005, 05:36 PM
What if I get KCTV5 on satellite????

Bob Dole
10-20-2005, 06:07 PM
a superseding 1966 law withdrew immunity for any professional football game telecast on Friday night or Saturday if any high school or college football game was being played within 75 miles of the broadcast station that same day.

So the DirecTV satellite that roadcasts Sunday Ticket games is less than 75 miles up?

Calcountry
10-20-2005, 06:09 PM
Here's a question...

How many of you were getting the game on Sunday (outside of Direct TV folks)? This is a potential disaster of major proportions here and you guys are crying about the NFL and the networks breaking one off in you.

Do you really think the NFL wants to pass up on the chance to get additional advertising revenues?Easy for you to say, Denver fan. :p

Taco John
10-20-2005, 06:12 PM
Here's a question...

How many of you were getting the game on Sunday (outside of Direct TV folks)? This is a potential disaster of major proportions here and you guys are crying about the NFL and the networks breaking one off in you.

Do you really think the NFL wants to pass up on the chance to get additional advertising revenues?



Eh... I can understand. While I'd like to think I'd handle it much more graciously than these fellas are, it's hard to keep things in perspective when you're talking about a large group of people who discuss football every day of the year.

If this, the biggest hurricane in recorded history does the damage that Katrina did, I suspect there will be just as many caring Chiefs fans as any other fan base. That said, missing a football game is nothing compared to missing your home.

saturnknts
10-20-2005, 07:03 PM
212-450-2000 ask for media relations

thats the number wichita's cbs station is giving out just tried calling now 7 pm and the offices are closed. uggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

picasso
10-20-2005, 07:17 PM
Eh... I can understand. While I'd like to think I'd handle it much more graciously than these fellas are, it's hard to keep things in perspective when you're talking about a large group of people who discuss football every day of the year.

If this, the biggest hurricane in recorded history does the damage that Katrina did, I suspect there will be just as many caring Chiefs fans as any other fan base. That said, missing a football game is nothing compared to missing your home.

That's why I don't live in Florida. Also a reason why I didn't live in a trailor in Kansas (tornados).
What puzzles me is why didn't they just go to Kansas City and play on Sunday? Isn't that a better scenario all the way around? Seau and Jason Taylor up to speed for the fins. Chiefs could have more than 2 days practice. But no put everybody in a risky environment, one day away from a major hurricane because the Dolphins want to play at home.
Stupid assclowns!!!

Saulbadguy
10-20-2005, 07:20 PM
This is for CBS, the NFL, ESPN, Saul, and anyone else who busts on those of us unfortunate enough to not pick the game up on TV tomorrow:
Heh. I'm gonna ride this one as much as I can. I definately owe you a couple beers though. :D

Bootlegged
10-20-2005, 07:24 PM
So the DirecTV satellite that roadcasts Sunday Ticket games is less than 75 miles up?



Roadcasts? Tis the season to be Rorry, fa rah rah rah rah, rah rah rah rah.

ARROW2
10-20-2005, 08:55 PM
The NFL shows Saturday games late in the year. This is BS of epic proportions....

jettio
10-20-2005, 09:36 PM
I doubt that any high schools in the regions of the teams would be filing an antitrust action. Neither should the DOJ.

And any claimed damages trebled would not amount to much money, probably less revenue than the regional stations would make.

They should go ahead and broadcast the game regionally.

tk13
10-20-2005, 09:40 PM
The NFL shows Saturday games late in the year. This is BS of epic proportions....
The anti-trust law states the NFL can't be doing that Saturday stuff until after Thanksgiving...