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carlos3652
10-24-2005, 05:02 PM
This will be done every other week to compare how are defense is doing this year. This is comparison #2 (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=126246)

Chiefs - 2002 Defensive Stats
Total yards: #32 (390.5 yards/game)
vs Run: #24 (129.2)
vs Pass: #31 (261.9)
PPG: #28 (24.9)
Take Aways: (1.93 per game)

Chiefs - 2003 Defensive Stats
Total yards: #29 (356.7 yards/game)
vs Run: #30 (146.5)
vs Pass: #20 (210.2)
PPG: #19 (20.8)
Take Aways: (2.31 per game)

Chiefs - 2004 Defensive Stats
Total yards: #30 (377.3 yards/game)
vs Run: #12 (114.6)
vs Pass: #32 (262.7)
PPG: #29 (27.2)
Take Aways: (1.31 per game)

Chiefs - 2005 (thru week 7)
Total yards: #27 (359.2 yards/game) (-9 avg/game better since week 5)
vs Run: #8 (95.5) (+1 yard since week 5)
vs Pass: #30 (263.7) (-10 avg/game better since week 5)
PPG: #21 (22.0) (-1 point better since week 5)
Take Aways: (1.83 per game)

Discuss...

KCChiefsMan
10-24-2005, 05:04 PM
it means our run D is pretty good, and Dexter McCleon sucks

SBK
10-24-2005, 05:05 PM
I haven't yet figured out if our run d looks good because it is, or because our pass d sucks so bad...

HolmeZz
10-24-2005, 05:07 PM
Our Pass D wouldn't suck so bad if we cut down on those 70+ yard TD passes every week.

KCChiefsMan
10-24-2005, 05:10 PM
Our Pass D wouldn't suck so bad if we cut down on those 70+ yard TD passes every week.

or put Surtain on their best man and get McCleon off the field

carlos3652
10-24-2005, 05:11 PM
I think having Warfield/Press Defense will help.... With Mcleon we had to play the soft zone, I think that is why we are moving more towards a press d. Our stats will look better at the end of the year...

el borracho
10-24-2005, 05:20 PM
It means Eric Hicks hasn't gotten any pressure on the QB since 2000 and that the Chiefs haven't gotten good return on any of the DTs they have drafted in the DV era.

Mr. Laz
10-24-2005, 05:24 PM
It means Eric Hicks hasn't gotten any pressure on the QB since 2000 and that the Chiefs haven't gotten good return on any of the DTs they have drafted in the DV era.

i about choked to death when Hicks got a sack and a pressure on back-to-back plays against Miami.


he actually looked aggressive for a couple seconds

el borracho
10-24-2005, 05:27 PM
i about choked to death when Hicks got a sack and a pressure on back-to-back plays against Miami.


he actually looked aggressive for a couple seconds
Wow. Miami's Oline must be worse than I thought.

Mr. Laz
10-24-2005, 05:31 PM
Wow. Miami's Oline must be worse than I thought.
yep...

hicks just bull rushed the right tackle right back into ferotte


i honestly thought i had seen the wrong number or someone else had put on Hick's jersey until the camera showed a closeup.

Coach
10-24-2005, 05:33 PM
Wow. Miami's Oline must be worse than I thought.

Just wait till they play the Texans.

Their O-Line is horrible. Worse than Miami's.

jidar
10-24-2005, 05:52 PM
It's improvement, and about damned time.
Love the run D stats.

Redcoats58
10-24-2005, 06:31 PM
Ive been saying all year that the defense would start to gel by week 8. I think we're in for a big improvement through the last 10 games of the season.

alanm
10-24-2005, 06:39 PM
It means Eric Hicks hasn't gotten any pressure on the QB since 2000 and that the Chiefs haven't gotten good return on any of the DTs they have drafted in the DV era.
Apparently you didn't see the game Friday. Hicks had 2 sacks. :)

Count Zarth
10-24-2005, 06:40 PM
Apparently you didn't see the game Friday. Hicks had 2 sacks. :)

He had ONE sack. He has 2 on the year. Hicks is the defintion of average. He's going to finish with 5 sacks AGAIN.

alanm
10-24-2005, 06:42 PM
My bad. Hicks had one sack but I could have swore he had 2. :hmmm:

NaptownChief
10-24-2005, 06:45 PM
Ive been saying all year that the defense would start to gel by week 8. I think we're in for a big improvement through the last 10 games of the season.


Hope you are right otherwise it looks just like the results of 2003 defensive numbers just coming in a different fashion.

Count Zarth
10-24-2005, 06:47 PM
Take another look at 2003. We didn't stop the run.

Wallcrawler
10-24-2005, 08:22 PM
Ill tell you another stat Im really impressed with, and that is the fact that the Chiefs defense is number 1 in the league with fumbles forced. Not 100% sure of the exact number, but after Frerotte was stripped on the sack, the announcers brought up the fact that the Chiefs were first in the league in fumbles forced with I believe 19 forced fumbles, having recovered 8 of them.


I really like the ballhawking mentality that the defense has. Theyre not only hitting guys now, but they're also knocking the ball out of there.

beer bacon
10-24-2005, 08:28 PM
Hope you are right otherwise it looks just like the results of 2003 defensive numbers just coming in a different fashion.

We are also better on 3rd downs this year then in previous years. Our defense also has the least penalties of any defense this year.

the Talking Can
10-24-2005, 08:31 PM
so far we are 5 points better per game...that is huge

KCJake
10-24-2005, 08:46 PM
it means our run D is pretty good, and Dexter McCleon sucks
rep :clap:

StcChief
10-24-2005, 08:58 PM
i about choked to death when Hicks got a sack and a pressure on back-to-back plays against Miami.


he actually looked aggressive for a couple seconds

But the Miami Oline sucks ass.

Why we had ferrot on the run.

tiptap
10-24-2005, 10:08 PM
Bad coverage of the opponets NO 1 WR (McCleons man), worst coverage of RB out of backfield (LB's are missing this still) and bad coverage on TE (LB and Strong Safety play). So what kind of team are we facing one with the best TE, RB (tough not as good reciever) and good WRs. Hmmm

carlos3652
10-24-2005, 10:20 PM
Bad coverage of the opponets NO 1 WR (McCleons man), worst coverage of RB out of backfield (LB's are missing this still) and bad coverage on TE (LB and Strong Safety play). So what kind of team are we facing one with the best TE, RB (tough not as good reciever) and good WRs. Hmmm


Hmmm... McCleon isnt starting... Warfield is... check

Soft Zone not permiting the SS to gaurd the TE... Hopefully we run press coverage like the Miami game... check

Number #8 defense rushing will hold LT to under 100 yards... check

I think we have a chance...

Chromatic
10-24-2005, 10:57 PM
Our run defense is tough this year, and having Warfield back in the fold will our pass defense better.

Just, for jesus's sake, keep Dexter on the bench.

RINGLEADER
10-25-2005, 12:38 AM
I haven't yet figured out if our run d looks good because it is, or because our pass d sucks so bad...

That's what the yards per carry average is for...right now I think we're at 4.2 ypc, in the middle of the pack. Then again, you take away that busted play against Brown and we're in the top ten again...

htismaqe
10-25-2005, 07:36 AM
The Ronnie Brown TD hurts. Without it, we're top 10 in ypc. But you can't just take it away.

I really think our LB's have improved, which is the primary reason the run defense is better.

jynni
10-25-2005, 07:52 AM
It seems (and I may be assuming too much) that this year the defense is actually progressing rather than getting worse as the season goes along.

In the past it always seemed like you could feel the break comming. This year it actually feels like instead of finding new problems, the D is fixing the old ones.

It's like the 2003 season, but in reverse. Instead of going steamrolling at the beginning and then hitting the speed bump we hit the bump at the beginning and are now starting to roll.

I really hope that's the case and it's not like last year where it was bump 'n roll, bump n' roll all season.

Cormac
10-25-2005, 08:26 AM
It's like the 2003 season, but in reverse. Instead of going steamrolling at the beginning and then hitting the speed bump we hit the bump at the beginning and are now starting to roll.

That's what I'm thinking. The stats for this year look way better than 2002 or 2004, and similar to 2003. But that year, we were bailed out by timely TOs. And once those dried up, we were exposed as a horrible defense. I think this year, we have a good foundation. Our run D is legit, IMO, despite the few breakdowns (Ronnie Brown and Mike Anderson). And our pass D has suffered because of Dexter and the conservative scheme. I didn't see all the Miami game, but from what others are saying on here, we played more aggressively when Warfield was in the game. Now that he is expected to regain his starting spot, I think we can play much better pass D.

I think this is an ascending defensive team. Miami's O-line made our pass rush look better than it really is (from what I saw), but we are more solid across the board this year, than in recent years. If we can continue to improve, we could be pretty tough come Dec/Jan.

As for this week, it will be as tough a matchup as we have had. We'll do well to hold SD to <24 points, IMO.