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jAZ
10-26-2005, 10:52 AM
It's not totally suprising that a WNBA player is gay. And it is just the WNBA, but Swoopes is pretty visable. It'll be interesting to see if any other active, pro-athletes (male or female) come out.

I kinda doubt any similarly visable men from any of the major team sports (NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL) will, but this *could* open the door for someone.

http://sports.espn.go.com/wnba/columns/story?columnist=voepel_mechelle&id=2203893

Three-time MVP 'tired of having to hide my feelings'
By LZ Granderson
ESPN The Magazine

Calling life in the closet "miserable," three-time Olympic gold medalist and reigning WNBA MVP Sheryl Swoopes announced she is gay in an exclusive interview in the current issue of ESPN The Magazine.

"My reason for coming out isn't to be some sort of hero," Swoopes, a forward with the Houston Comets, says in the article. "I'm just at a point in my life where I'm tired of having to pretend to be somebody I'm not. I'm tired of having to hide my feelings about the person I care about. About the person I love.

"Male athletes of my caliber probably feel like they have a lot more to lose than gain [by coming out]. I don't agree with that. To me, the most important thing is happiness."

Swoopes, 34, is the most recognizable athlete, male or female, to come out in a team sport. Former WNBA player Michele Van Gorp, who played for the Minnesota Lynx, publicly acknowledged she is a lesbian in July 2004. Before Van Gorp, former Liberty player Sue Wicks had been the only member of a female professional team to publicly come out while still playing. Previously, Swoopes has said she plans to continue her career.

Former NFL defensive tackle Esera Tuaolo and MLB outfielder Billy Bean made headlines when they revealed they were gay, but both were retired when they made their announcements and neither had a career that comes close to Swoopes.

After being named NJCAA Player of the Year while at South Plains Junior College in 1991, Swoopes transferred to Texas Tech and two years later scored a NCAA title game-record 47 points in leading the Lady Randy Moss and the Raiderz to the national championship. Swoopes was named the Final Four's Most Outstanding Player to go along with her national player of the year award. In 1994 she won gold at the Goodwill Games, and, in 1996, was a member of the Olympic gold medal-winning team that became the building block for the WNBA.

Since then, she has won two more Olympic gold medals, four WNBA championships and three regular-season MVP accolades, including this past summer. Swoopes, a five-time All-WNBA First Team honoree who was the All-Star MVP this past season, is also the first female athlete to have a shoe named after her, Nike's Air Swoopes.

"Some people might say my coming out after just winning the MVP award is heroic, and I understand that," she says. "And I know there are going to be some negative things said, too. But it doesn't change who I am. I can't help who I fall in love with. No one can."

In the article, Swoopes goes on to talk about her three-year marriage, her 8-year-old son, Jordan, and life with her partner, former Old Dominion basketball coach Alisa Scott.

"Discovering I'm gay just sort of happened much later in life," Swoopes says. "Being intimate with [Alisa] or any other woman never entered my mind. At the same time, I'm a firm believer that when you fall in love with somebody, you can't control that."

The news could be particularly perplexing for the WNBA, which has struggled to both recognize the homosexual element connected to its league and grow its fan base. Ironically, in its infancy, the WNBA marketed a pregnant, married Swoopes to put a heterosexual face on its promotional campaign. Now the league, which will play its 10th season next summer, has to decide what to do now that one of its best and most recognizable players has announced she's gay.

"The talk about the WNBA being full of lesbians is not true," Swoopes says. "There are as many straight women in the league as there are gay. What really irritates me is when people talk about football, baseball and the NBA, you don't hear all of this talk about the gay guys playing. But when you talk about the WNBA, then it becomes an issue. Sexuality and gender don't change anyone's performance on the court."

Uatu
10-26-2005, 10:54 AM
The WNBA must really be hurting for publicity.

milkman
10-26-2005, 10:55 AM
Who?

jspchief
10-26-2005, 10:56 AM
"The talk about the WNBA being full of lesbians is not true," Swoopes says. "There are as many straight women in the league as there are gay. So she's basically saying it's 50/50 gay/straight?

Yea, that's why people talk about the league being full of lesbians. It is.

Rain Man
10-26-2005, 10:59 AM
jspchief beat me to the punch. Now I'm going to have to go check out the roster photos and use my imagination.

Simplex3
10-26-2005, 11:00 AM
I thought the WNBA folded? :shrug:

I guess they folded on their DEMAND to be paid like the men since they play the same game. ROFL

Mr. Kotter
10-26-2005, 11:05 AM
So, is Swoopes:

A. an attention whore
B. a drama queen
C. both

:hmmm:

jidar
10-26-2005, 11:08 AM
You know why this thread is worthless.

siberian khatru
10-26-2005, 11:10 AM
C'mon, Johnnie, it's OK to come out now.

ROYC75
10-26-2005, 11:15 AM
And to think that some people only believe that switch hitters are in baseball . :harumph:

Mr. Kotter
10-26-2005, 11:16 AM
...."The talk about the WNBA being full of lesbians is not true," Swoopes says. "There are as many straight women in the league as there are gay. What really irritates me is when people talk about football, baseball and the NBA, you don't hear all of this talk about the gay guys playing. But when you talk about the WNBA, then it becomes an issue. Sexuality and gender don't change anyone's performance on the court."

ROFL

It's about numbers.....Sheryl's math skills must suck. "As many as...." infers half.....when in the rest of society the rate is 3-10% depending on who's figures you buy.

And she's "irritated" when people say the WNBA is "full" of lesbians? Heh.

ROFL

jspchief
10-26-2005, 11:20 AM
ROFL

It's about numbers.....Sheryl's math skills must suck. "As many as...." infers half.....when in the rest of society the rate is 3-10% depending on who's figures you buy.

And she's "irritated" when people say the WNBA is "full" of lesbians? Heh.

ROFLYou're just pissed that you didn't get to "out" her.

Rain Man
10-26-2005, 11:21 AM
I'm having a fantasy right now about a female reporter coming in to interview a team after a tough win where they're all sweaty and stuff.

I'll be fine as long as no one shows me what an actual WNBA roster looks like.

Lzen
10-26-2005, 11:21 AM
ROFL

It's about numbers.....Sheryl's math skills must suck. "As many as...." infers half.....when in the rest of society the rate is 3-10% depending on who's figures you buy.

And she's "irritated" when people say the WNBA is "full" of lesbians? Heh.

ROFL

Actually, it's more like 1-3%. But her comment was amusing nonetheless.

Uatu
10-26-2005, 11:32 AM
Here she is!

Mr. Kotter
10-26-2005, 11:33 AM
Actually, it's more like 1-3%. But her comment was amusing nonetheless.

Eh, most reliable studies show between 2-3%, yes.

However, in attempts to increase their credibility the figure is often inflated....to include those who engaged in one-time or short-term "experimentation," or samples (Kinsey's study including prisoners, for instance....DUH!) skewed by methodology or circumstance.

Mr. Kotter
10-26-2005, 11:35 AM
Here she is!

Which one is she? :hmmm:

Uatu
10-26-2005, 11:51 AM
Eh, most reliable studies show between 2-3%, yes.

However, in attempts to increase their credibility the figure is often inflated....to include those who engaged in one-time or short-term "experimentation," or samples (Kinsey's study including prisoners, for instance....DUH!) skewed by methodology or circumstance.

Kinsey was a POS who should have rotted in prison or gotten the sin city / yellow guy treatment

HolmeZz
10-26-2005, 11:56 AM
There wouldn't be so many lesbians if it weren't for guys like Kotter.

Mr. Kotter
10-26-2005, 11:59 AM
There wouldn't be so many lesbians if it weren't for guys like Kotter.

You know, you may be onto something there.....I mentioned in another thread, the only three "long term" relationships I've ever had, outside my wife remain "single" to this day. I use to attribute it to "once you've had the best....," but perhaps I ought to rethink that. :hmmm:

;)

Mr. Kotter
10-26-2005, 12:00 PM
Kinsey was a POS who should have rotted in prison or gotten the sin city / yellow guy treatment

Yup. You notice how even liberals have begun to distance themselves from him in recent years.....heh.

Lurch
10-26-2005, 12:09 PM
I could make an honest straight woman out of her.

Frosty
10-26-2005, 12:11 PM
I could make an honest straight woman out of her.

That's funny when combined with your avatar.

Lurch
10-26-2005, 12:12 PM
That's funny when combined with your avatar.

Then again, I could make an honest straight woman out of you too.

Chiefs Pantalones
10-26-2005, 12:17 PM
WNBA player a homo?

Shocker.

Lzen
10-26-2005, 12:32 PM
Eh, most reliable studies show between 2-3%, yes.

However, in attempts to increase their credibility the figure is often inflated....to include those who engaged in one-time or short-term "experimentation," or samples (Kinsey's study including prisoners, for instance....DUH!) skewed by methodology or circumstance.

Yep, that's right. And anyone who used Kinsey's study to back up that argument is a moron, IMO.

Lurch
10-26-2005, 12:34 PM
Yep, that's right. And anyone who used Kinsey's study to back up that argument is a moron, IMO.

You got something against morons?

Lzen
10-26-2005, 12:36 PM
You got something against morons?

Oh, sry. I forgot to add "Not that there's anything wrong with that".

:p

ferrarispider95
10-26-2005, 12:39 PM
What about the other girls on her team, imagine sharing a locker room with her if you were straight. I mean everything probably makes sense to them now, after leslie wouldnt stop play grab ass.

They need to change the name to the LNBA

Reaper16
10-26-2005, 12:46 PM
This should be a non-issue. Why is this front page news? She's gay, so what?

Braincase
10-26-2005, 12:48 PM
Today, Sheryl Swoopes . Tomorrow, Jake Plummer...

Goapics1
10-26-2005, 12:56 PM
This should be a non-issue. Why is this front page news? She's gay, so what?
Homophobia galore.

Lurch
10-26-2005, 12:57 PM
Homophobia galore.

Al Gore too?


Did you notice that she is the one who made it an issue?

Goapics1
10-26-2005, 12:58 PM
Al Gore too?


Did you notice that she is the one who made it an issue?
By putting it on the front page of a football forum?

Lzen
10-26-2005, 12:59 PM
Homophobia galore.

Probably a little of that. But remember, she is the one who announced it to a national mag. She and ESPN are the ones who made a deal out of it. I don't really care what she does, but I would if I were a teammate of hers.

Lurch
10-26-2005, 12:59 PM
By putting it on the front page of a football forum?

An ESPN interview might just do that. Call me crazy though.

Goapics1
10-26-2005, 01:02 PM
An ESPN interview might just do that. Call me crazy though.
You're crazy. :p

Lurch
10-26-2005, 01:03 PM
You're crazy. :p

I've got a "thing" or two for you, too, bub.

ChiTown
10-26-2005, 01:11 PM
Wow.

I never realized I had anything in common with Cheryl Swoopes......we both like pussy.

Braincase
10-26-2005, 01:21 PM
Wow.

I never realized I had anything in common with Cheryl Swoopes......we both like pussy.

Difference is she gets some.

alanm
10-26-2005, 01:30 PM
What about the other girls on her team, imagine sharing a locker room with her if you were straight. I mean everything probably makes sense to them now, after leslie wouldnt stop play grab ass.

They need to change the name to the LNBA
Well they do have the LPGA. ROFL

ChiTown
10-26-2005, 01:31 PM
Difference is she gets some.

Good point, and I guess your mother doesn't count.................
:)

ferrarispider95
10-26-2005, 03:09 PM
Good point, and I guess your mother doesn't count.................
:)


Nice Recovery, because you go burned

Braincase, let see the come back

Calcountry
10-26-2005, 03:23 PM
Homophobia galore.No, that was Pussy Galore, from the James Bond movie.

Rain Man
10-26-2005, 03:32 PM
No, that was Pussy Galore, from the James Bond movie.


Yeah. Homophobia Galore was another character, though, in the movie "Never Say Never Again, Unless It's Some Kind of Gay Thing." He was the minor villain who kept making fun of Bond's dapper clothing and British accent.

ExtremeChief
10-26-2005, 04:13 PM
ESPN just wanted to do the catchy headline:

"Cheryl Swoopes out of the closet"






Next it will be Jake the fake fixing toilets.

milkman
10-26-2005, 04:17 PM
No, that was Pussy Galore, from the James Bond movie.

Always liked Pussy Galore!

Valiant
10-26-2005, 05:20 PM
Here she is!


Is that swoopes and morton??? And who is the other homo???

Chief Henry
10-26-2005, 05:27 PM
Today, Sheryl Swoopes . Tomorrow, Jake Plummer...



ROFL

beavis
10-26-2005, 06:06 PM
How is someone who has a penis who likes chicks gay?

KC Jones
10-26-2005, 07:31 PM
Kinsey was a POS who should have rotted in prison or gotten the sin city / yellow guy treatment

All I know about Kinsey is that he started the Kinsey Institute and brought academia into the study of human sexuality. What about him is so terrible?

KC Jones
10-26-2005, 07:33 PM
Is that swoopes and morton??? And who is the other homo???

That's Gonzo dude.

leviw
10-26-2005, 07:53 PM
A say this as a complete heterosexual in a completley homosexual thread...but dang, Morton is cut. Ok, I'm done.

KC Jones
10-26-2005, 08:59 PM
All I know about Kinsey is that he started the Kinsey Institute and brought academia into the study of human sexuality. What about him is so terrible?


So, I googled Kinsey and read some pretty horrible stuff. My god, how can anyone defend that animal if that stuff is true.

milkman
10-26-2005, 09:36 PM
If that picture is really Swoopes, then I have to say, it doesn't bother me in the least that I have the wrong equipment for her tastes.

Valiant
10-26-2005, 10:17 PM
A say this as a complete heterosexual in a completley homosexual thread...but dang, Morton is cut. Ok, I'm done.


Yeah I think he got worked up for Gonzo...