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Donger
10-26-2005, 12:28 PM
Being the relative football noob that I am, I was wondering if the Chiefs (or any other teams, for that matter), give their players bonuses based on performance? Do they get extra $$$ for breaking records, getting into the playoffs, Super Bowl, et al.

If not, why not?

Lzen
10-26-2005, 12:30 PM
Yes, the do. Or at least that's what I can remember them talking about over the years. Bonus for yardage, being on the roster, etc.

Brock
10-26-2005, 12:34 PM
I think Maurice Clarett signed one of those.

htismaqe
10-26-2005, 12:34 PM
Some of them do, some of them don't.

It's either in their contract or it isn't.

Donger
10-26-2005, 12:35 PM
Ah, so it's an individual thing, and not a team thing?

That seems odd to me.

Brock
10-26-2005, 12:36 PM
Ricky Williams got douched pretty severely by Master P on his first NFL deal.

patteeu
10-26-2005, 12:47 PM
Ah, so it's an individual thing, and not a team thing?

That seems odd to me.

Yes. The XFL had an interesting idea that I think might be worth adopting. IIRC, the winners of each game got a bonus and there were even bigger bonuses for winning in the playoffs.

StcChief
10-26-2005, 12:48 PM
Should be heavily ladened on performance in the contracts. JMHO.

sedated
10-26-2005, 12:48 PM
They have roster bonuses for being on the roster on a particular date, performance bonuses for individual records or accomplishments, and team bonuses for reaching Conference Champ, etc.
Depends on contract.

Mr. Laz
10-26-2005, 12:56 PM
Ah, so it's an individual thing, and not a team thing?

That seems odd to me.
i believe the players for all teams get paid more for playoff games and the superbowl.


but the team gives individual players bonuses for all sorts of things (games played, offseason workouts attended, receptions etc)


seems like incentives are become more and more part of contracts these days.

htismaqe
10-26-2005, 12:56 PM
Ah, so it's an individual thing, and not a team thing?

That seems odd to me.

It's all about the individual.

Donger
10-26-2005, 12:58 PM
Yes. The XFL had an interesting idea that I think might be worth adopting. IIRC, the winners of each game got a bonus and there were even bigger bonuses for winning in the playoffs.

That's what I was getting at. A game bonus, then progressively higher bonuses based on playoff wins, then the biggie.

MOhillbilly
10-26-2005, 01:00 PM
KC did a few years ago-just ask the D.

Sam
10-26-2005, 01:00 PM
Let's not forget the fatty bonus, for those who have trouble with their weight.

kepp
10-26-2005, 01:18 PM
Ricky Williams got douched pretty severely by Master P on his first NFL deal.
In my estimation, that's his own fault.

"Hmmm...who should I hire as my agent?? Oh man, I love this song! Hey!!"

Kyle401
10-26-2005, 01:19 PM
i believe the players for all teams get paid more for playoff games and the superbowl.


All players make the same amount of money for each playoff game regardless of their individual contract. I believe it was around $16,000 per game last year.

Amnorix
10-26-2005, 01:21 PM
All players of teams in the playoffs get a playoff share. The share increases depending on how far in the playoffs they go, and whether they win or not. The playoff share is pretty nominal compared to their overall compensation. The playoff share is also identical for each player on the team.

Other than that, nearly all bonuses are individualized. I have never heard of a "if the team has 10 wins" or "if the team makes the playoffs" bonus, even for quarterbacks. One reason for this is that the agent would argue, quite correctly, that it's unfair to put team performance goals in the contract because the player has very little control over whether the player will earn them.

I realize that team goals/bonuses are very common in the real world, and this is no different. I also realize that no RB, for example, can reach a 1,500 yard rushing bonus by himself....

All that said, bonuses are individualized, not team oriented. I also believe this is true across all sports. I've never heard of a contract where a player in ANY sport gets a bonus for his team reaching the playoffs, based on HIS individual contract.

Amnorix
10-26-2005, 01:24 PM
All players make the same amount of money for each playoff game regardless of their individual contract. I believe it was around $16,000 per game last year.

IIRC, the winner and loser of each game get different amounts, and the amount increases the further you go into the playoffs. So if a team made it all the way inot the Super Bowl, and won, they'd have winning shares from at least 3 games, which can add up to a healthy amount for the minimum wage scrubs on the back end of the roster, but won't even be noticed by the star players.

Kyle401
10-26-2005, 01:41 PM
IIRC, the winner and loser of each game get different amounts, and the amount increases the further you go into the playoffs. So if a team made it all the way inot the Super Bowl, and won, they'd have winning shares from at least 3 games, which can add up to a healthy amount for the minimum wage scrubs on the back end of the roster, but won't even be noticed by the star players.

:thumb:
Link to collective bargaining agreement (http://www.nflpa.org/members/main.asp?subPage=CBA+Complete#art42)

It appears that the pay per game increases as you go through the playoffs. However, the winning and losing teams are paid the same until the SB with the players on the winning team in '04 each recieving $68K and the losing players were paid $36.5K. There is no pay scale listed for the '05 playoffs. I guess the CBA expires at the end of the regular season not at the end of the playoffs.:shrug:

Pro bowl pay was $35K for the winners and $17.5K for the losers each of the last two years.