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dirk digler
10-26-2005, 06:06 PM
Have they just become to expensive? Reason I am asking is that I received this email from the Chiefs today for season tickets and I thought they had a 20-yr waiting list.



Deposits to buy new 2006 season tickets are coming in fast! And for the first time in years, the Chiefs have season ticket inventory to sell! With your deposit, you are guaranteed 2006 season tickets, and also guaranteed playoff tickets for THIS SEASON at Arrowhead (as long as we qualify)! This window could close very soon to purchase season tickets, so we hope you take advantage soon! The following are some key benefits to purchasing Kansas City Chiefs season tickets:



* Opportunity to renew your same seats for future seasons.
* Opportunity to participate in the “Chiefs Annual Seat Relocation Program” (upgrade and/or move your seats). This takes place in March and April of 2006.
* Opportunity to purchase your same seats for home playoff games.
* Priority opportunity to purchase tickets for other Arrowhead special events.
* Opportunity to participate in the Chiefs Super Bowl ticket lottery drawing available to all season ticket holders when the Chiefs qualify.
* AND MANY MORE!



Ticket prices for the 2006 season have not been announced. They will be announced in late December, 2005. This season, season ticket prices in the upper reserved section were $590 per seat (10 game home schedule). To reserve your seats, a $100.00 deposit is due per seat. For example, if you wish to purchase 2 seats for the 2006 season, a $200.00 deposit is due. This money will be credited toward your 2006 season ticket balance. Once the deposit is processed, you will receive an account number, verbal and print verification from the Kansas City Chiefs, and a pin number to look up your account online. Your account can be paid off in (4) installments between January-June of 2006. The Kansas City Chiefs will invoice you accordingly. We will place your initial seats as close as possible to the general area you wish to sit. Please indicate the general area you wish to sit on your order form if you are faxing or mailing in your order form (i.e. Chiefs side, visitors side, corners, end zones). I have attached an order form to fill out. However, you are encouraged to call me to place your order over the phone. This will give you the opportunity to ask any unanswered questions.



Many new buyers have inquired about purchasing Upper Box, Field Box and/or Club Level seats. **These seats are rarely available for new buyers; however, there is an opportunity to purchase these seats via the VIP Tailgate. If interested in this club, please review the benefits below:





VIP Tailgate Tent (located next to Gate F at Arrowhead Stadium)



* All inclusive silver platter buffet featuring traditional and gourmet items.
* Open bar stocked with specialty drinks, beer and soda.
* Convenient private restroom facilities.
* Special entertainment including live bands, big screen televisions and appearances by the Chiefs Cheerleaders, KC Wolf (mascot) and former Kansas City Chiefs players.
* Option to purchase reserved parking.
* Give away items for every guest at each game.
* Themed each game to provide your guest with a unique experience.



$605.00 Annual Membership Fee per person (subject to change for the 2006 season) plus ticket prices



**The VIP Tailgate Tent inventory is subject to a waiting list for these premium Arrowhead Stadium seats and accessibility to this club.


Thank you so much for your consideration and support!



Sincerely,


Jon



Kansas City Chiefs

One Arrowhead Drive

Kansas City, MO 64129

Phone: 816.920.4523

Fax: 816.920.4774

Web: www.kcchiefs.com

Nzoner
10-26-2005, 06:15 PM
There hasn't been a waiting list for at least three years,being in the marketing business myself I will give them major props though as they've done a helluva job selling the idea that it still exists.

dirk digler
10-26-2005, 06:18 PM
There hasn't been a waiting list for at least three years,being in the marketing business myself I will give them major props though as they've done a helluva job selling the idea that it still exists.

I had no idea that it didn't. I also received an email saying that had alot of tickets left for the last 2 home games against the Chargers and the Bengals.

Skip Towne
10-26-2005, 06:19 PM
If a waiting list developed, Carl would raise the prices until it vanished. It's his job.

Hoover
10-26-2005, 06:22 PM
They always have late season tix available.

dirk digler
10-26-2005, 06:24 PM
They always have late season tix available.

This is for next year though.

I am curious why the waiting list dryed up. Is Skip right that they are just more expensive now or is it that people like to watch on TV now.

Nzoner
10-26-2005, 06:39 PM
Here's my take.

Deposits to buy new 2006 season tickets are coming in fast! And for the first time in years, the Chiefs have season ticket inventory to sell!


Creating urgency,this is a once in a forever chance.


With your deposit, you are guaranteed 2006 season tickets, and also guaranteed playoff tickets for THIS SEASON at Arrowhead (as long as we qualify)!


Guranteed is always a great word.

But shouldn't we be asking if there is/was a waiting list and '06 is the first time in years then how in the hell can they gurantee play-off tickets for '05?


This window could close very soon to purchase season tickets, so we hope you take advantage soon!

Again urgency.

What we don't see is the fine print,send $200 now to reserve 2 seats and even if the team doesn't make the post-season and you decide not to follow through with '06 seats you do not get a refund.


Sorry to sound so negative,it's just my 2 cents.

Valiant
10-26-2005, 06:42 PM
This is for next year though.

I am curious why the waiting list dryed up. Is Skip right that they are just more expensive now or is it that people like to watch on TV now.


I would rather spend 40bucks at home with beer and food with my buds then go to the game and spend 300-500 dollars... I miss the crowd, but the prices are outrageous for my pay...

GoTrav
10-26-2005, 07:12 PM
Many new buyers have inquired about purchasing Upper Box, Field Box and/or Club Level seats. **These seats are rarely available for new buyers; however, there is an opportunity to purchase these seats via the VIP Tailgate. If interested in this club, please review the benefits below:

anyone sit in Club and enjoy it? How is the crowd?

Phobia
10-26-2005, 07:30 PM
anyone sit in Club and enjoy it? How is the crowd?

Sure. I have many times. Crowd? Who cares? I never even noticed the rest of the crowd.

Calcountry
10-26-2005, 07:44 PM
Here's my take.




Creating urgency,this is a once in a forever chance.





Guranteed is always a great word.

But shouldn't we be asking if there is/was a waiting list and '06 is the first time in years then how in the hell can they gurantee play-off tickets for '05?




Again urgency.

What we don't see is the fine print,send $200 now to reserve 2 seats and even if the team doesn't make the post-season and you decide not to follow through with '06 seats you do not get a refund.


Sorry to sound so negative,it's just my 2 cents.The new owner of the A's wants a new ballpark, which is not strange for a new owner in an old ballpark. What is strange, is he only wants a seating capacity of about 32K. Why? Just as you say, they want URGENCY to be perceived as real, and therefore create the shortage of quality seats to the average fan. Fear of missing out will force fence sitters to commit to season tickets a lot earlier than they otherwise would. It is absolutely the opposite at the Coliseum now, the fans have the A's over the barrel, knowing that the 50K seating capacity will rarely if ever sell out and therefore have the luxury of waiting until an hour before game time to decide if they want to go to games, and many times saying, f it, I have something better to do. The reverse effect of urgency is a sense of complacency, that the A's cannot overcome in their current venue. This is so bad, that with a contending team, they have 2 dollar view level seats, dollar hot dog Wednesdays, just to get the fans to the park.

Face it, the window is closing on King Carl's 5 year super bowl plan. Missouri is the show me state, and it is high time that the Chiefs showed you ticket holders something.

jspchief
10-26-2005, 07:44 PM
anyone sit in Club and enjoy it? How is the crowd?Club level sucks. Seriously, if you sit there, don't plan on standing up. Or if you do stand a lot, expect to get bitched at.

Saulbadguy
10-26-2005, 07:44 PM
I had a friend who bought some season tickets, and he asked about a parking pass. THey said "There isn't even a waiting list for those." They don't sell em anymore.

Mr. Laz
10-26-2005, 08:16 PM
If a waiting list developed, Carl would raise the prices until it vanished. It's his job.
yep ... well at least part of his job



the GM part comes in a distant second... that's why from a fan perspective have a GM/VPres/CEO combination is a bad thing. A major conflict of interest.

GM = win games

VPres = make money

CEO = Bottomline/maintain image/consistency blah,blah,blah

Bob Dole
10-27-2005, 06:55 AM
Why?

Mediocrity.

morphius
10-27-2005, 07:12 AM
Years of no playoffs with high expectations and raising the prices on seats, then toss in all the Sprint layoff's and layoff's in the city in general and bam, no waiting list.

Plus since they do still barely sell out, people can be cheap and stay home and watch it on TV.

BigRedChief
10-27-2005, 08:35 AM
This is for next year though.

I am curious why the waiting list dryed up. Is Skip right that they are just more expensive now or is it that people like to watch on TV now.

I was on the "Real" waiting list from about 1992 - 1996.

I spent 1997 -1998 up in the upper deck, in the corner of the end zone about 5 rows from the top.

1999 - 2004 was on the 50 yard line but 3 rows from the top of the stadium in the upper deck.

2005 Now I'm in the lower bowl over by the tunnel one section over not to far from Weirdwolf, FDE etc.

2006 I expect to get the oppertunity to improve again.

Why is the demand not the same?

Performance - 12 years without a playoff win. Underperforming teams.

Price - I pay $2,200 for three tickets. Before you factor in parking, beer and tailgating supplies. As mentioned before with the Sprint layoffs and the economy being down Chief tickets are a non essential purchase to a family. Luckily I'm in a good enough financial position to keep purchasing the tickets. But are there 72,000 more of us next year?

Why are there still 79,000 at games?

It's a social event in KC. Kudos to the marketing genius of King Carl. Tailgating at arrowhead is a wonderful experience.

People still love their Chiefs despite their record in the playoffs.

It's KC, What else is there to do thats as much fun?

I expect them to sell out again next year but the year after that who knows? Maybe we will see black outs again here in KC during the rebuilding process.:hmmm:

Saulbadguy
10-27-2005, 08:39 AM
I was on the "Real" waiting list from about 1992 - 1996.

I spent 1997 -1998 up in the upper deck, in the corner of the end zone about 5 rows from the top.

1999 - 2004 was on the 50 yard line but 3 rows from the top of the stadium in the upper deck.

2005 Now I'm in the lower bowl over by the tunnel one section over not to far from Weirdwolf, FDE etc.

2006 I expect to get the oppertunity to improve again.

Why is the demand not the same?

Performance - 12 years without a playoff win. Underperforming teams.

Price - I pay $2,200 for three tickets. Before you factor in parking, beer and tailgating supplies. As mentioned before with the Sprint layoffs and the economy being down Chief tickets are a non essential purchase to a family. Luckily I'm in a good enough financial position to keep purchasing the tickets. But are there 72,000 more of us next year?

Why are there still 79,000 at games?

It's a social event in KC. Kudos to the marketing genius of King Carl. Tailgating at arrowhead is a wonderful experience.

People still love their Chiefs despite their record in the playoffs.

It's KC, What else is there to do thats as much fun?

I expect them to sell out again next year but the year after that who knows? Maybe we will see black outs again here in KC during the rebuilding process.:hmmm:

I'm pretty close to FDE and Weirdwolf as well. Section 114. What section are you in?

BigRedChief
10-27-2005, 08:40 AM
I'm pretty close to FDE and Weirdwolf as well. Section 114. What section are you in?

111. 2nd section over from the tunnel.

Saulbadguy
10-27-2005, 08:41 AM
111. 2nd section over from the tunnel.
What row? I'm on the other side of the tunenl. I'll keep an eye out for ya.

BigRedChief
10-27-2005, 08:45 AM
What row? I'm on the other side of the tunenl. I'll keep an eye out for ya.
26. 4 seats from the aisle closest to the goalpost. You can't miss me I'm usually standing up and cheering and pissing off the people behind me. But after I turned around and gave them a stern look and didn't say a word and turned back around at the first of the season now they just scowl at me and don't say anything.

GoTrav
10-27-2005, 09:00 AM
Club level sucks. Seriously, if you sit there, don't plan on standing up. Or if you do stand a lot, expect to get bitched at.


hehe ya, that was my experience the last time I sat in Club. Bunch of geriatrics telling us to sit down.

StcChief
10-27-2005, 09:09 AM
Stand and yell in Section 122. pretty much whole game.

People that bitch dont last long there. :banghead: :cuss:

They are the one gamers lucky to get tickets down there, not sure why everyone stands. :)

jidar
10-27-2005, 10:17 AM
It's simple.
Year after year of raising prices during an economic boom followed by an economic downturn. Who has the money to pay the big prices now that the economy is down and energy prices are soaring?

dirk digler
10-27-2005, 10:33 AM
All good points BRC.

I love going to Chiefs games but I am not a season ticket holder because I am too cheap to buy them.

Plus honestly now that have Sunday Ticket, I like to plop down on the couch stuffing my face with food and channel surf all of the games.

Simplex3
10-27-2005, 10:37 AM
I expect them to sell out again next year but the year after that who knows? Maybe we will see black outs again here in KC during the rebuilding process.:hmmm:

I welcome the prospect of rebuilding this team. My issue, and I think a MAJOR issue with the KC fans is that CP will be in charge again. IMO that means we're going to have to suffer through two or three losing seasons just to get back to where we are today.

While I agree the pricing is out of control I think they'd still be selling like hotcakes if there was any hope in the team's ability to succeed. However I think there are only two ways to get the fans here to be hopeful. Replace CP or win the Super Bowl. I don't see #2 happening until #1 does.

morphius
10-27-2005, 10:41 AM
All good points BRC.

I love going to Chiefs games but I am not a season ticket holder because I am too cheap to buy them.

Plus honestly now that have Sunday Ticket, I like to plop down on the couch stuffing my face with food and channel surf all of the games.
That is something else I thought of mentioning as well. With Driecttv and the cost of Sunday ticket i'm sure some fans just stay home to watch all the other games they want to see.

Then toss in FF and people want to see how all their players are doing, and see if they are winning in real time...

hawkchief
10-27-2005, 10:44 AM
Many people have realized that the "King" has no clothes. People are tired of Carl Peterson's act and are not willing to pay for his circus anymore. The window of opportunity for the team we have today is about to slam shut, and we have Peterson to thank for not getting the job done when he had the opportunity. He' gotten fat off of the ticketholders, and not given a winner in return.

BigRedChief
10-27-2005, 10:47 AM
All good points BRC.

I love going to Chiefs games but I am not a season ticket holder because I am too cheap to buy them.

Plus honestly now that have Sunday Ticket, I like to plop down on the couch stuffing my face with food and channel surf all of the games.

Man I love game day. You met me, saw pictures of my younger days. It's obvious that I sit in front of the tube too much anyway.:)

I need cable for my broadband connection and I'm too cheap to pay for a satellite dish and set up just to get the NFL Sunday ticket.

But if we had made a Super Bowl in 95 or 97 like we should have there probably would still be the waiting list.

Simplex3
10-27-2005, 10:51 AM
But if we had made a Super Bowl in 95 or 97 like we should have there probably would still be the waiting list.
Hell, if they'd just start winning a playoff game on occasion.

dirk digler
10-27-2005, 11:01 AM
Don't get me wrong I love game days too and I never ever have turned down an opportunity to go to the games.

Maybe I am just getting lazier in my old age.

:)

REDHOTGTO
10-27-2005, 01:20 PM
I have gone to games so long i can remember watching Joe Namath play! i have been a season holder now for 10 years and i too am very tired of a 3 hour drive each way just to get my heart broke at the end of the season after all the hype of a great season coming. this is probably my last season as my ticket partner has already turned in his tickets for the rest of the year to me cause he is pissed after the Eagles game. We love the tailgating but we too can stay home and get drunk and only drive 3 blocks back to my house. maybe a lot of people are feeling this way and that is why the ticket sales are way off. gas at 2.75 isnt helping either, it costs 70.00 to go to one game for me in my avalanche. :banghead:

BigRedChief
10-27-2005, 01:22 PM
I have gone to games so long i can remember watching Joe Namath play! i have been a season holder now for 10 years and i too am very tired of a 3 hour drive each way just to get my heart broke at the end of the season after all the hype of a great season coming. this is probably my last season as my ticket partner has already turned in his tickets for the rest of the year to me cuase he is pissed after the Eagles game. We love the tailgating but we too can stay home and get drunk and only drive 3 blocks back to my house. maybe a lot of people are feeling this way and that is why the ticket sales are way off. gas at 2.75 isnt helping either, it costs 70.00 to go to one game for me in my avalanche. :banghead:
So where are your seats? :hmmm:

REDHOTGTO
10-27-2005, 01:24 PM
sec 343
row 22
seats 3&4

htismaqe
10-27-2005, 01:28 PM
Many people have realized that the "King" has no clothes. People are tired of Carl Peterson's act and are not willing to pay for his circus anymore. The window of opportunity for the team we have today is about to slam shut, and we have Peterson to thank for not getting the job done when he had the opportunity. He' gotten fat off of the ticketholders, and not given a winner in return.

:bravo:

BigRedChief
10-27-2005, 01:29 PM
sec 343
row 22
seats 3&4

I'm a lower bowl kind of guy now.

wolfpack0735
10-27-2005, 02:53 PM
i remember growing up in kc and you could buy tickets in the nose bleed part, move to lower level before 1st was over. then i grew up,moved 5 hours away and raised a family. we still try to get back to see a game or two a year. but i will now only sit in the lower section. its easy to get tickets down there. the trouble is the cost of the tickets,gas,meals and if i buy $4 water or a $7 beer it adds up. when you have 2 in hs and 1 in college paying to see a chief game is hard. so we throw parties at home during the games. at least if i get drunk i dont have to drive. NO playoff victories and the price of a ticket has really hurt the chiefs ticket sells.