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Johnson&Johnson
10-31-2005, 08:18 PM
That caused the fumble in the kick return. Man! Could Carter be back to his old self after all these years?

Rain Man
10-31-2005, 08:32 PM
It's amazing that he's still playing. This is his 14th year in the league.

Interesting Dale Carter stats:

Chiefs - 7 seasons (1992-1998) 401 tackles, 21 interceptions, and 6 forced fumbles (not to mention two punt return touchdowns)

Average: 57.3 tackles, 3 interceptions, 1.2 fumble returns

Other teams - 7 seasons (1999-2005) - Broncos (2 seasons, one of which was a full-year suspension), Vikings (1 season), Saints (2 seasons), Ravens (2 seasons, counting this one) - 163 tackles, 3 interceptions, 0 forced fumbles

Average (over the five full active non-suspended seasons): 32.6 tackles, 0.6 interceptions, 0 forced fumbles

It seems like we let him go at exactly the right time.

KCJake
10-31-2005, 08:34 PM
Dale Carter/James Hasty
:drool:

Saulbadguy
10-31-2005, 08:35 PM
Didn't we use Dale Carter as a WR at one point as well?

HolmeZz
10-31-2005, 08:39 PM
Your sig sucks.

Rain Man
10-31-2005, 08:41 PM
He returned punts, played CB, lined up at WR, returned some kickoffs, and even has a couple of career rushing attempts (probably on reverses, I bet).

If he had remained with one team, kept himself in shape, and not had the off-field issues, he could have been a legitimate Hall of Fame candidate.

If he had maintained his pace for the Chiefs over the past seven years, he'd be an 8-time pro bowler with 42 interceptions.

OldTownChief
10-31-2005, 08:41 PM
That caused the fumble in the kick return. Man! Could Carter be back to his old self after all these years?

If he's his old self I doubt the hit would be on a kick return.

Brock
10-31-2005, 08:43 PM
He probably still is his old drunken assaulting asshole self.

Reaper16
10-31-2005, 08:49 PM
What's up with your sig? Trent Green should be one of the last guys to pin the SD loss on. Carr wouldn't have done better at all; watch how he's playing with no pass protection right now in Houston. I'm all for Carr ressurecting himself in KC, but Green is our man right now, and can continue to be.

Skip Towne
10-31-2005, 08:52 PM
14 years in the league is pretty impressive but doesn't that get him 2nd place tonight. I see Deion Sanders is suited up at age 38.

Saulbadguy
10-31-2005, 08:55 PM
14 years in the league is pretty impressive but doesn't that get him 2nd place tonight. I see Deion Sanders is suited up at age 38.
Indeed. Dale is 35, Deion is 38.

Skip Towne
10-31-2005, 08:57 PM
Indeed. Dale is 35, Deion is 38.
Deion took some time off to do TV so I don't know how many years he has in the league.

greg63
10-31-2005, 09:07 PM
I missed it!! :banghead:

Johnson&Johnson
10-31-2005, 09:19 PM
What's up with your sig? Trent Green should be one of the last guys to pin the SD loss on. Carr wouldn't have done better at all; watch how he's playing with no pass protection right now in Houston. I'm all for Carr ressurecting himself in KC, but Green is our man right now, and can continue to be.

Green has only 2 years max and I like to see us go after Carr since he becomes a UFA in 2006. Please don't jump to the notion that I want Green out of KC in 2006. Can you imagine how bad KC can be if Green were to go down with injury? He's going to be 37 next year.

Reaper16
10-31-2005, 09:23 PM
Green has only 2 years max and I like to see us go after Carr since he becomes a UFA in 2006. Please don't jump to the notion that I want Green out of KC in 2006. Can you imagine how bad KC can be if Green were to go down with injury? He's going to be 37 next year.
I'm with you on getting a young QB with real talent, but the "Carr would have shredded the SD defense" comment irked me.

Johnson&Johnson
10-31-2005, 09:43 PM
I'm with you on getting a young QB with real talent, but the "Carr would have shredded the SD defense" comment irked me.

OK dude. You convinced me on that. So I changed my signature. I sure need someone with your believes on my campaign for Carr! :clap:

Reaper16
10-31-2005, 09:49 PM
OK dude. You convinced me on that. So I changed my signature. I sure need someone with your believes on my campaign for Carr! :clap:
Now that's a sensible campaign! :thumb:

T-post Tom
11-01-2005, 04:31 AM
One of my favorite memories of Carter was an interception against Elway here at Arrowhead. He baited Elway by playing off his receiver. Elway threw a bullet and Carter outran the ball and made the pick. He was amazingly quick and athletic during his prime.

Rainman is right, Carter could have been a Hall of Famer had he been blessed with a few more I.Q. points.

KcMizzou
11-01-2005, 04:38 AM
Rainman is right, Carter could have been a Hall of Famer had he been blessed with a few more I.Q. points. Yep. The guy was amazing. The first play I remember him in was a punt return for a TD. I remember it as his first play period... but I can't swear to it. (That was long ago)

Saggysack
11-01-2005, 05:03 AM
Rainman is right, Carter could have been a Hall of Famer had he been blessed with a few more I.Q. points.

And a few less dollars for the blanca.

4th and Long
11-01-2005, 05:06 AM
<p align="center">http://www.iquoradesign.com/2002/carr2006.jpg

:spock:

:shake:

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/8008/nocarr4ea.jpg

:thumb:

:)

:clap:</p>

Mecca
11-01-2005, 05:24 AM
4th obviously hates David Carr.

Skip Towne
11-01-2005, 05:44 AM
4th obviously hates David Carr.
Nah, he's just showing off his photoshop skills. The whore.

MOhillbilly
11-01-2005, 06:44 AM
the only thing dale carter ever had was the ability to chase down recievers that burned him on routes.

F-him!

ChiefsGirl
11-01-2005, 06:45 AM
Green has only 2 years max and I like to see us go after Carr since he becomes a UFA in 2006. Please don't jump to the notion that I want Green out of KC in 2006. Can you imagine how bad KC can be if Green were to go down with injury? He's going to be 37 next year.

How is Green going to be 37 next year?

2006 - 1970 = 36 :hmmm:

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1599

Brock
11-01-2005, 07:36 AM
How is Green going to be 37 next year?

2006 - 1970 = 36 :hmmm:

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1599

Either way, he won't be around long.

Chief Henry
11-01-2005, 07:57 AM
I didn't know he still played.

Lzen
11-01-2005, 08:08 AM
Green has only 2 years max and I like to see us go after Carr since he becomes a UFA in 2006. Please don't jump to the notion that I want Green out of KC in 2006. Can you imagine how bad KC can be if Green were to go down with injury? He's going to be 37 next year.

Actually, Green will not be 37 next year. He turns 36 in July. ;)

Lzen
11-01-2005, 08:11 AM
the only thing dale carter ever had was the ability to chase down recievers that burned him on routes.

F-him!

Ummm.......that's just plain not true. Around the mid 90s, Dale Carter was considered one of the top 2 CBs in the NFL along with Deion Sanders. He was pretty amazing a lot of times. Sure, he would get beaten once in awhile. But he made a lot more good plays than bad when he was with the Chiefs. I agree with Kevin's assessment - the Chiefs got rid of him at just the right time.

MOhillbilly
11-01-2005, 08:30 AM
Ummm.......that's just plain not true. Around the mid 90s, Dale Carter was considered one of the top 2 CBs in the NFL along with Deion Sanders. He was pretty amazing a lot of times. Sure, he would get beaten once in awhile. But he made a lot more good plays than bad when he was with the Chiefs. I agree with Kevin's assessment - the Chiefs got rid of him at just the right time.

umm that was always the number one on field knock against him.he got burned for big plays and only his speed to chase down recievers saved TD.
how soon we forget.

Lzen
11-01-2005, 08:56 AM
umm that was always the number one on field knock against him.he got burned for big plays and only his speed to chase down recievers saved TD.
how soon we forget.

That is what happens when you play an aggressive B&R style defense. That's the nature of the beast. In any case, it wasn't that often that he got beat. He made a lot more good plays, IMO. He was a great (no, not just good, he was great) CB in his time in KC.

Brock
11-01-2005, 08:57 AM
Dale was a good number 2. James Hasty was definitely better.

Lzen
11-01-2005, 09:00 AM
Dale was a good number 2. James Hasty was definitely better.

Hasty was more physical, but Carter was more athletic. Man, imagine if we had those 2 guys now.

Brock
11-01-2005, 09:01 AM
Hasty was more physical, but Carter was more athletic. Man, imagine if we had those 2 guys now.

Frankly, I think they'd be getting flagged several times per game in today's league. They don't let corners play anymore.

Garcia Bronco
11-01-2005, 09:06 AM
That caused the fumble in the kick return. Man! Could Carter be back to his old self after all these years?

The drug doing criminal Dale Carter...the NFL seriously needs that guy back.

Rain Man
11-01-2005, 09:13 AM
Dale was a good number 2. James Hasty was definitely better.

I think they were both legitimate #1 corners. Those were good days.

bringbackmarty
11-01-2005, 11:02 AM
I heard that the nfl was considering letting defenses play with an extra cornerback (12 men) on third and long next year to balance out the offensive bias in the rules. So now instead of four guys sitting back in the secondary doing absolutely nothing, on third down we can have five or more. or in the case of our defense all twelve.

nascher
11-01-2005, 11:05 AM
Carr = Rob Johnson !!! No way get Ramsey from Was.

Johnson&Johnson
11-01-2005, 11:13 AM
Carr = Rob Johnson !!! No way get Ramsey from Was.

Hello! Ramsey?

Joe Gibbs a HOF coach prefer a over-the-hill Brunell over Ramsey-happy-feet? yeah...

ChiefsGirl
11-01-2005, 12:03 PM
I think that David Carr is the reason that the Texans suck. I'd rather look elsewhere.