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SNR
11-02-2005, 06:53 PM
I'm leaning towards New Orleans or Arizona. Could be a surprise like Jacksonville or something like that too

Rain Man
11-02-2005, 06:56 PM
My guess would be Arizona. Not a long local history, no success, not in a "football" region.

The Saints are another reasonable choice, but they've at least been stable geographically.

CosmicPal
11-02-2005, 06:56 PM
You can measure tangible things like ticket sales, but I don't think you truly measure the fanbase. I know a few peeps in my office who say they like the Broncos, yet they never buy any Bronco gear or go to the game.

Saulbadguy
11-02-2005, 06:58 PM
I know alot of Rams fans under 5 ft 5.

Deberg_1990
11-02-2005, 07:03 PM
As of right now, id have to say The Houston Texans, heck, they arent even popluar in their own state. Oher nominees: Arizonia and New Orleans.....I also honestly believe the Chargers fanbase isnt that big for being as good of team as they are.

4th and Long
11-02-2005, 07:04 PM
As of right now, id have to say The Houston Texans, heck, they arent even popluar in their own state. Oher nominees: Arizonia and New Orleans.....I also honestly believe the Chargers fanbase isnt that big for being as good of team as they are.
Having been engaged to a native Houstonian, I can tell you that you're dead wrong.

SNR
11-02-2005, 07:05 PM
Also, what kind of fans does Houston have? Did they all start cheering for the Tennessee Oilers when they moved only to switch back to the home team when a new franchise came in? Are they still loyal to that old Oilers team? Or is it out with the old in with the new?

4th and Long
11-02-2005, 07:06 PM
Also, what kind of fans does Houston have? Did they all start cheering for the Tennessee Oilers when they moved only to switch back to the home team when a new franchise came in? Are they still loyal to that old Oilers team? Or is it out with the old in with the new?
They hate the old team and do not cheer for them.

Deberg_1990
11-02-2005, 07:07 PM
Having been engaged to a native Houstonian, I can tell you that you're dead wrong.

You can honestly say that shes passionate about Houston Texans football?? Shes one of maybe 3 or 4 people in the world if she is??

SNR
11-02-2005, 07:08 PM
Has anyone seen a guy decked out in Jaguars gear EVER outside of the Jacksonville area? Even then, Florida has three teams, and then there's Atlanta to the west and Carolina to the north. Lot of competition for fans in the Southwest.

Rain Man
11-02-2005, 07:08 PM
I wonder how big Baltimore's fan base is. They're a relatively new team that is located 40 miles or less from a very established team that has a highly loyal fan base.

4th and Long
11-02-2005, 07:09 PM
You can honestly say that shes passionate about Houston Texans football?? Shes one of maybe 3 or 4 people in the world if she is??
Dude, here's a dollar. Buy a clue.

I spent a lot of time in Houston and those people love their team. Everyone wears the gear, there are Texans flags flying in yards galore, and during football season, it's all they talk about.

Rain Man
11-02-2005, 07:10 PM
Buffalo almost certainly has a loyal fan base, but it can't be very huge unless we're counting Canadian fans, eh? They've got the Patriots to the east, the Jets and Giants in their home state, the Eagles and Steelers within a day's drive, and nothing but commonwealth to the north and west.

SNR
11-02-2005, 07:10 PM
I wonder how big Baltimore's fan base is. They're a relatively new team that is located 40 miles or less from a very established team that has a highly loyal fan base.Art Modell buys his own fanbase

SNR
11-02-2005, 07:11 PM
This is a really great thread. I've been able to pad my post count in a football thread worthy of discussion

Rain Man
11-02-2005, 07:12 PM
This is a really great thread. I've been able to pad my post count in a football thread worthy of discussion

Maybe you should give yourself some rep.

SNR
11-02-2005, 07:16 PM
Maybe you should give yourself some rep.That's a really great idea to add to this reputation system.

In real life, what you think of yourself makes up half of your character and reputation, for lack of a better word. The ability to give yourself rep, therefore, is a real importance to this system.

Sig Kauffman
11-02-2005, 07:17 PM
Whichever team moves to Los Angeles will see its fanbase shrink. I honestly don't understand why Paul Tagliabue continues to make this an issue. Yes, Tinseltown is the second-largest market in the United States. But professional football is not their bag. They're all about USC and UCLA out there. Not to mention most people there aren't originally from Los Angeles. You have your New Yorkers who will continue to cheer for the Jets or Giants, some cheeseheads from Wisconsin and Cowboys fans from Texas.

Face it Tags, Hollywood doesn't care about you. Just forget it and move on.

Calcountry
11-02-2005, 07:20 PM
As of right now, id have to say The Houston Texans, heck, they arent even popluar in their own state. Oher nominees: Arizonia and New Orleans.....I also honestly believe the Chargers fanbase isnt that big for being as good of team as they are.San Diego is a small Big town. Doesn't surprise me. Plus, there is the weather, the beach, and so much else to do besides football there.

Deberg_1990
11-02-2005, 07:23 PM
Whichever team moves to Los Angeles will see its fanbase shrink. I honestly don't understand why Paul Tagliabue continues to make this an issue. Yes, Tinseltown is the second-largest market in the United States. But professional football is not their bag. They're all about USC and UCLA out there. Not to mention most people there aren't originally from Los Angeles. You have your New Yorkers who will continue to cheer for the Jets or Giants, some cheeseheads from Wisconsin and Cowboys fans from Texas.

Face it Tags, Hollywood doesn't care about you. Just forget it and move on.

Exactly...been saying the same thing for years.....well said.

Boozer
11-02-2005, 07:29 PM
I'd have to go with Arizona. Has any other team, save the 1980s Chiefs, routinely had game attendance figures under 20,000? Under 30,000? Everyone is from some place else, everyone is going some place else, very transient community (Maricopa County is one of the fastest growing big counties in America, but for every three people that move in, two move out.). Of the area's football-watching population, the vast majority have team loyalties to a team in their prior area, or even their parent's prior area. Heck, even some native Arizonans in their twenties and thirties started watching football before the Cards moved in, and were fans of a surrounding team (typically Cowboys, Raiders or the Donx). The Cards' lackluster performance in the past 17 years hasn't won many converts.

HemiEd
11-02-2005, 07:35 PM
Has anyone seen a guy decked out in Jaguars gear EVER outside of the Jacksonville area? Even then, Florida has three teams, and then there's Atlanta to the west and Carolina to the north. Lot of competition for fans in the Southwest.


hmm ROFL

chefsos
11-02-2005, 07:37 PM
I wonder how big Baltimore's fan base is. They're a relatively new team that is located 40 miles or less from a very established team that has a highly loyal fan base.

I see plenty of Ravens' fans around here, although they're still outnumbered by Eagles and 'Skins people, judging from gear worn.

I think Baltimorians root for the Ravens because they're here, but many older ones still pine for the old Colts days. I know a few guys who remain Colts fans to this day. Those people also share a common trait with us: They still hate Elway!

listopencil
11-02-2005, 08:40 PM
Hmmm...

Cardinals.

TrickyNicky
11-02-2005, 08:41 PM
What about which team has the smallest market (host city and region)?

Deberg_1990
11-02-2005, 08:45 PM
What about which team has the smallest market (host city and region)?

Its got to be Green Bay. Or New England.....how big is Foxboro??

Braincase
11-02-2005, 08:45 PM
That would either be the Pygmy Giants or the Dwarf Titans.

StcChief
11-02-2005, 08:46 PM
AZ Cardinals

What has 'Bowtie' Bill Bidwell done. suckered them into building a stadium. Winner on the field? Just like when he was in STL.

No excuses now. Bill put up or shutup.

Boozer
11-02-2005, 08:53 PM
Its got to be Green Bay. Or New England.....how big is Foxboro??

Who cares? It's in suburban Boston. (Foxboro, not Green Bay.) Hell, the New York Giants/Jets aren't even in the right state.

Logical
11-02-2005, 10:19 PM
...I also honestly believe the Chargers fanbase isnt that big for being as good of team as they are.I think you are more talking about the ardent nature of the fan base, which is very light in San Diego, the base however is quite large in numbers, they just only follow a winner.

Logical
11-02-2005, 10:22 PM
Its got to be Green Bay. Or New England.....how big is Foxboro??Green Bay, actually is so close to Milwaukee it might have greater numbers than KC if view metro areas. But definite not the Patriots, as already mentioned Foxboro is a Boston burb. I think Carolina's market has to be pretty small.

Count Alex's Losses
11-02-2005, 10:23 PM
I think you are more talking about the ardent nature of the fan base, which is very light in San Diego, the base however is quite large in numbers, they just only follow a winner.

Isn't that true of any city?

jAZ
11-02-2005, 10:25 PM
What exactly is a "fan base"? How do you measure that? If you are talking season ticketholders... that's pretty easy to determine. And in that case, it's *has* to be New Orleans (zero tickets).

If you try to estimate it using near-by local population, then you certainly couldn't consider the Cardinals among the smallest. They are a top 10 city.

Halfcan
11-02-2005, 10:30 PM
N O if you count losing half the city in the hurican.

Logical
11-02-2005, 10:34 PM
Isn't that true of any city?Not in the same way. In San Diego they have one .500 season and they will have no sellouts the next year and half the season ticket holders will not renew. Bandwagoneer is barely adequate to describe them.

But to be fair there are so many entertainments here that pull away people unless the Chargers are winning, the beach, mountains, ski resorts, desert, 100s of movie screens, plays, opera, golf and tennis all year round, deep sea fishing, diving, surfing gambling casinos on the local indian reservations, there is no end to all the entertainment with 45 minutes drive from anywhere in San Diego

SNR
11-02-2005, 10:59 PM
I'm HemiEd. I love my vagina. hmm ROFLFixed your post