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11-03-2005, 03:25 AM

Raiders already lost, in a blowout, to Chiefs fans in Iraq


The Chiefs will have some extremely interested observers this Sunday from halfway around the world.

That would be the 169th Corps Support Battalion, a Kansas National Guard unit out of Olathe that now is stationed by the airport just outside of Baghdad, Iraq.

And this group of soldiers is expecting great things out of the Chiefs, who better take heed.

In fact, the battalion recently constructed a massive Raiders helmet, then in a mission that the soldiers named “Operation Raider Hater,” they obliterated the helmet with assault weapons during target practice. The “assault” is captured on video, which is expected to be shown at Arrowhead Stadium before Sunday’s game.

Also on the video to be shown is a message from Col. Robert Schmitt, who says: “Hello, Arrowhead Stadium! To you, the fans, we thank you for your support of the military over here. To the Chiefs, our mission here in Iraq is to destroy the insurgents. Your mission today is to destroy the Raiders.”

I’m guessing that will get the crowd a bit fired up Sunday.

Check out this (http://www.169csb.com/HHD169thCSB.html) to watch the video as they destroy the helmet.

The battalion, by the way, is scheduled to come home next month.



Rumors continue to persist in New York that the Chiefs have their eye on Herm Edwards for next season, but Terry Bradway, former Chiefs vice president of player personnel and now the Jets general manager, said he expects Edwards to be back with the 2-5 Jets in 2006. Edwards is under contract through the 2007 season.

Bradway told the New York Daily News, “Nobody feels great about what’s happened here, but when you look at Herm’s body of evidence, his complete work, he has accomplished more than nearly every Jets coach in history.

“We expect to be here for a long time, and we’ll continue to work toward building a championship. In times like this, that might seem far away, but we’ve turned it around before and we hope to do it again.”


Our condolences go out to the family of coaching great Joseph Mintner Sr., who died at age 80 on Tuesday. Mintner had coached for 22 years at Bishop Lillis High School, then two years at Smithville High School, and then 14 years at Park Hill.

Mintner was inducted into the Missouri High School Coaches Hall of Fame in 1992 and the Greater Kansas City Amateur Sports Hall of Champions in 2003.


Another Arbitron ratings book is in, and another convincing win for WHB (810 AM) over KCSP (610 AM) in the sports-talk radio wars.

As it did in the spring ratings book, WHB (810 AM) registered an across-the-board victory for the summer book, which covered June 30 to Sept .21.

The summer ratings also marked the first full book for KCSP afternoon host Marty Wall, and while the results weren’t worthy of high-fives, there was room for guarded optimism in the 610 world.

Kevin Kietzman still won easily and remained No. 1 in the city for males ages 25-54. But his margin of victory diminished from the spring book, when he romped to a 12.3 to 3.3 win over KCSP. In Wall’s first full book, the gap was 10.5 to 4.1 For persons 12-plus, Kietzman’s winning gap had been 5.6 to 1.7, and that was trimmed to 4.4 to 2.1

“You’ll remember that years ago people snickered at WHB and 1510 (KCTE) when they started and were trying to take on Don Fortune,” Wall said. “But they hung in there and hung in there and finally beat him. You have to have some staying power, and you can’t get too wrapped up in one book. I’ve been at this a long time, and that’s going to be my philosophy.”

WHB vice president of sales Sandy Cohen said he wasn’t surprised by the numbers.

“We’re never going to take (KCSP) lightly, but this is what we expected,” he said. “We expected a good book.”

■ There was also some slight gain from KCSP’s morning host Damon Amendolara, who still lost to WHB’s Bob Fescoe and Steven St. John in males 25-54 (6.7 to 3.6) and persons 12-plus (2.7 to 2.0).

■ WHB’s “Crunch Time” featuring Frank Boal, Dave Stewart and George Brett also won for persons 12-plus (2.9 to 1.9) and males 25-54 (6.1 to 4.2). But again, the margin of victory over KCSP’s Tim Grunhard and Doug Franz was trimmed in half.

■ There was far less movement during the 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. slot, where the syndicated Jim Rome show on KCSP barely moved the needle, losing to WHB’s Soren Petro in males 25-54 (7.1 to 3.8) and in persons 12-plus (3.7 to 1.7).

11-03-2005, 03:28 AM
Man, I wish I could be there for that video, Arrowhead is gonna go nuts.

11-03-2005, 03:43 AM
I am really really excited for this Sunday.

11-03-2005, 03:57 AM
That was great. lol

11-03-2005, 07:59 AM
Update from Baghdad, 700+ hits on the website yesterday!



11-03-2005, 10:57 AM
bump because this is just so cool. :)

11-03-2005, 10:59 AM
anyone check feedback from Raiders site as this was posted yesterday?

Likely they weren't amused.

11-03-2005, 11:29 AM
I have, maybe 2 nice posts, the rest are F-you and your BRo... NO CLASS


Lets show em some love!

11-03-2005, 03:52 PM
That was really neat-o!

11-03-2005, 03:58 PM
I have, maybe 2 nice posts, the rest are F-you and your BRo... NO CLASS


Lets show em some love!

Fuk em:harumph:

NJ Chief Fan
11-03-2005, 04:13 PM
what do you expect from people that have iqs equivalent to randy moss' number...and i might be generous...it easily could be kerry collins number

11-03-2005, 11:55 PM
Well said Big Red, NJ Chief...

Gotta love Raider week!

11-04-2005, 07:39 AM
Update from Baghdad.

COL Schmitt wrote,

"Great job in helping us get the message out. We had over 4,800 hits on
the web site on the 3rd, outstanding. All of us here owe you a cold one
for the great help in passing this on to all the great the Chiefs fans
back home. I'm buying at the Cincinati Game."

Way to go Chiefs fans!

I didn't hear it myself, but heard that CP had some good words to say about video on his radio show last night!

11-04-2005, 08:06 AM

11-04-2005, 02:22 PM
the unit is interviewed on Channel 9 tonight. 6:00 pm

11-04-2005, 04:35 PM

11-04-2005, 09:59 PM
A huge applause to our troops :bravo: Taking out the bad guys in every way!!! Keep up the great work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now it is our job to make Arrowhead Rock and send the Faiders home 3 and 5.

11-04-2005, 10:30 PM
Arrowheadlouder would be pleased

11-05-2005, 12:56 AM
The Col was interviewed for Ch 9 news today, thought I would share.


Arrowhead will be rockin!

Bob Dole
11-05-2005, 07:59 AM
That's still some good shit.

11-05-2005, 09:04 AM
Operation Raider Hater way for soldiers to celebrate Chiefs
By Peter Euler
Special to The Capital-Journal
BAGHDAD, Iraq -- You don't have to spend much time on an overseas logistics base to recognize the importance of sports to soldiers in the U.S. Armed Forces.Televisions in most Morale, Welfare and Recreation (MWR) facilities are turned to sports channels, while many dining facilities (DFACs) have flags, pennants and banners reflecting the soldiers' favorite sports teams.

This dedication to sports is no different for the soldiers of the 169th Corps Support Battalion, a Kansas Army National Guard unit based out of Olathe.The 169th is scheduled to return home soon from its year-long deployment to Iraq, during which more than 700 active component and National Guard Solders have operated a critical logistical hub, providing around-the-clock combat service support for the Victory Military Base Complex and the Baghdad area of operations.

During the NFL season, the soldiers' loyalty is to the Kansas City Chiefs. Their dedication was shown on Oct. 15 when the soldiers traveled to a weapons qualification range at Camp Riva Ridge on the Victory Base Complex.That afternoon, the 169th decided to use a different target to qualify their individual and crew-served weapons -- a large Oakland Raiders helmet crafted from Styrofoam.The training event was scripted and filmed to energize Chiefs fan and has found its way to numerous local blogs and Web sites. The exercise was dubbed Operation Raider Hater."The majority of the 169th soldiers are big Chiefs fans," explained 169th CSB 1st Sergeant Kelly Stubbs. "The majority of them are from Kansas. For those that were involved with Operation Raider Hater, they were real hyped and eager to go and make this mission happen. It was a lot of fun for them."And the operation has been a critical success.

The 169th's Web site, 169csb.com, was averaging just over 100 hits a day. When the video was posted on the company's Web site, it went from the average of 100 hits a day to a whopping 4,800 hits on Thursday."The object was to have fun and show our support to the Kansas City area community," Col. Robert F. Schmitt, 169th CSB commander, said. "We wanted to fire up the fans and the Chiefs for the Raiders game. This was a pretty good informational operations campaign."Operation Raider Hater was the brainchild of MAJ Kevin Olson, Multi-National Corps-Iraq (MNC-I) Public Affairs Officer (PAO) and MAJ Matt Bedwell, 169th CSB Executive Officer.

Back home, MAJ Olson serves as the Public Affairs Officer for the Minnesota National Guard. Bedwell and Olson are old friends who attended the Quartermaster Officer Advanced Course together over 13 years ago.When they ran into each other recently in Baghdad, Olson approached his former classmate with the idea.MAJ Bedwell explained, "We were eating dinner and Kevin said, 'You know, I've got this idea for something the 169th could do; they could do something for a Chiefs game.'"Kevin asked, 'What Chiefs game would you like to do?' I said, 'The Raiders game at Arrowhead on Nov. 6; it's always the biggest game of the year.'""Kevin told us what we needed to do. He said to build this big Raiders helmet and go do our thing and here we are, about to light it up at Caughman Range in Baghdad freakin' Iraq" Bedwell added, shortly before the soldiers opened fire on the helmet.Olson said he was impressed with the work put into "Operation Raider Hater" by the 169th CSB soldiers."I was surprised at the amount of creativity and enthusiasm these Kansas City soldiers displayed," Olson said. "From my perspective, it was very easy to coordinate a video that really captured the enthusiasm that the 169th CSB has for the Kansas City Chiefs."

Bedwell had no problem receiving the full blessing of Schmitt, a life-long Chiefs fan."I'm a huge Chiefs fan, so I wanted to do whatever I could to support this," Schmitt said. "It's neat no matter how you do it. Having gone through this season after season, the rivalry between the Chiefs and the Raiders, it always gets to be a big deal. Supporting this -- is good for troops' morale as well. It does a good job of getting some additional press for what we're doing over here -- in a positive way."And while it was a typically oppressive, hot afternoon in Iraq, unlike the seasonably cool temperatures found in October in the Kansas City area, 169th soldiers showed up in droves for the event and displayed their team spirit."It gives the soldier a sense of home because being deployed to Iraq, we don't have a lot of things we take for granted back in the states. Being able to just turn your TV on and watch the ballgame when it comes on or actually, physically being able to go to the field and go out to the park and actually watch the ballgame," Stubbs said. "We can't do that over here -- Even though we're in the middle of a combat zone, we can still follow what's going on back home. -- If for just a short while, their mind was away from the war and it was focused on the team and the sports team back home."Stubbs said there is no question that the soldiers of the 169th will be cheering on their Chiefs from Iraq on Sunday, where the game will kick off at 9 p.m. local time."Overall, it was a good deal," he said. "A fun day was had by all and the soldiers are really psyched for the Oakland-Chiefs game. We just hope the Chiefs pull this one off."

Coordinating this kind of event is nothing new to Olson."In my role as the Minnesota National Guard PAO, I have had a chance to work with professional sports teams in Minnesota," he said. "One of my goals here was to be able to work with other military units to interact with sports teams in their communities. "Whenever soldiers approach me with an idea to connect with one of their local sporting teams, they really show a lot of passion -- It helps service members connect with home and connect with the teams that are unique to their home, whether that's college teams, professional teams or even a high school team. It allows them to make that connection from a war zone. It allows them to rally around an event. That really increases morale."

11-05-2005, 09:14 AM
More news in the Topeka Capital-Journal. Story is by our own 2LT Euler
who's civilian job is as a sports writer in Pittsburgh KS.


Good Karma for our boys, they are loving this!

11-05-2005, 09:15 AM
I heard that an "errant" bullet from that machine gun exercise ended up in an Oakland living room last night.

11-05-2005, 09:22 AM
The COL says he doesn't know anything about that....


11-05-2005, 09:28 AM

11-06-2005, 07:48 AM

Looks like you got us in the Oakland papers as well, I'm sure they just
wish they had thought of it 1st. One of the cameramen who shot the
video from the PAO office was a Bronco's fan. He thought the whole idea
was great. I'm sure he was going to pick-up a rifle and join us if he
didn't have a job to do.


Go Chiefs,


Nice job Chiefs fans, the "buzz" got this into the paper, I didn't send them this!

Game Day!


11-06-2005, 10:44 AM
I like how the Raiders players say there's nothing different about coming into Arrowhead than any other stadium.

Heh, heh, heh. :evil:

Hammock Parties
11-06-2005, 10:45 AM
I like how the Raiders players say there's nothing different about coming into Arrowhead than any other stadium.

Heh, heh, heh. :evil:


11-06-2005, 11:13 AM