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tk13
11-06-2005, 04:31 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/13093098.htm

Holmes sees spine specialist
Vermeil stresses running back’s season is not over

By ELIZABETH MERRILL
The Kansas City Star


An air of uncertainty lingers over the health of Priest Holmes, and it may go beyond the Pro Bowl running back missing today’s game with Oakland.

Coach Dick Vermeil said Saturday that Holmes won’t play today, that he’s being evaluated by a well-known spinal specialist, and that Holmes is expected to undergo more tests in coming days.

Holmes’ issue isn’t just the concussion he suffered in last weekend’s helmet-to-helmet collision in San Diego, but also the aftereffects of a shoulder injury from the first Oakland game in September.

He went to California late last week to be evaluated by Robert Watkins, a spine surgeon and co-director of the Los Angeles Spine Surgery Institute at St. Vincent Medical Center. His expertise, according to a St. Vincent Web site, ranges from innovative spine surgeries to treatment of sports-related injuries.

Watkins is renowned for treating serious back, neck and spine injuries. His patient list includes Milwaukee Bucks point guard T.J. Ford, who underwent cervical spine surgery in May 2004, and Royals reliever Scott Sullivan. Ford was out for a year before returning to the basketball court this summer; Sullivan missed half the 2004 season and all of 2005 with a lower-back injury and recently filed for free-agency.

Watkins recently treated Giants cornerback William Peterson, who’s out four to six weeks with a lower back injury.

Vermeil downplayed the significance of Holmes seeing Watkins, saying he’s referred his friends and other players to the doctor. Vermeil said defensive tackle John Browning visited Watkins about the back problems he’s played with since 1998.

“If a player wants a second opinion,” Vermeil said, “that’s a good place to send him.

“He treated the high school fullback I played with in Calistoga. He deals with back injuries and neck injuries. He has a great reputation. He’s been around athletes. He’s not an alarmist. I sent people there when I was with the Rams.”

Holmes, the Chiefs’ career rushing leader, has had injuries cut short two of his last three seasons. He missed the final eight games of 2004 with a strained MCL in his right knee and was inactive in the final two games of 2002 with a right hip injury. Vermeil said Saturday he hasn’t received any information that would suggest that Holmes, 32, is out for the year.

“I haven’t been told that, and Priest hasn’t been told that,” Vermeil said. “They want to do some further tests. The more people who end up evaluating an NFL football player’s injuries, the more opinions you get and it just keeps going and going.

“I don’t think there’s any threat of that at all.”

Holmes has rushed for a team-high 451 yards on 119 carries and appeared refreshed in a two-back rotation with Larry Johnson. With injuries rocking the offensive line, Holmes has found ways to be more creative, fighting for nearly every yard he’s gained.

But as driven as he’s been on the field, Holmes has been equally as obsessed with listening to his body when it tells him he can’t perform. Holmes told reporters last week that this was an injury that couldn’t be physically seen and determined.

“It’s one where you have to go through different tests,” Holmes said, “then once that is determined they will do everything to protect me but make sure I can get out there as quickly as possible.”

Holmes was back in Kansas City early Saturday and was in the locker room after the Chiefs’ short walk-through practice. As the team scattered to spend the rest of the day off, a few fans lingered outside the stadium. At least one of them was wearing Holmes’ No. 31 jersey.

By late Saturday, it was unclear when that number would be called again.

“I don’t even know if he’s in any pain,” Vermeil said. “When he left Thursday he said he was fine. What we’re doing is a thorough examination. When you’re going through thorough examinations, you don’t allow them to play until (they’ve finished) the exam.”

Deberg_1990
11-06-2005, 04:44 AM
Wow, kinda scary.......this is exactly why Carl drafted LJ, he knew the fragile history of Priest. I pray he is ok, but maybe its time to move on with LJ as our featured back??

Chieftain58
11-06-2005, 08:07 AM
This is Priest Holmes way out, He has to retire due to injury after he got 10 million bucks in signing bonus' and can retire without having to pay it back. Priest Holmes has been the best player we've had for a loooong time, but Everyone knows LJ is going to be the man and Holmes probably figures that too.

Straight, No Chaser
11-06-2005, 08:21 AM
This is Priest Holmes way out, He has to retire due to injury after he got 10 million bucks in signing bonus' and can retire without having to pay it back...

Yikes! Your comment is truly 'alarmist' and premature.

In reference to Holmes' being out for the year, quote:

“I haven’t been told that, and Priest hasn’t been told that,” Vermeil said. “They want to do some further tests. The more people who end up evaluating an NFL football player’s injuries, the more opinions you get and it just keeps going and going.

“I don’t think there’s any threat of that at all.”


I bet we see Holmes again soon. Being a professional football player of Holmes' stature alows him access to the very best modern medicine has to offer. Given he's been tackled a few times in his career, I see no problem in him taking advantage.



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ExtremeChief
11-06-2005, 08:37 AM
Well LJ, you've proven you can talk. Now is your chance to prove you can play too. This game is huge. Divisional opponent at home. The Faders to boot. KC in a must win situation the next three games since they are games the Chiefs should win.

Put up or shut up.

Count Alex's Losses
11-06-2005, 08:40 AM
Now is your chance to prove you can play too.

Give me a break. LJ already proved himself last year after Priest went down.

I'm expecting a big game from LJ. We all know what he can do. At least 150 total yards and 2 or more TDs.

siberian khatru
11-06-2005, 08:40 AM
This season is just so much FUN!!!

ExtremeChief
11-06-2005, 09:18 AM
Give me a break. LJ already proved himself last year after Priest went down.

I'm expecting a big game from LJ. We all know what he can do. At least 150 total yards and 2 or more TDs.

Yep, he did, last year.


This year many have said he hasn't had to opportunity to show what he can do. Here is his chance.

Don't misunderstand me.

I'm not saying he can't do it. I hope he does. I'm glad he's pissed off at the lack of playing time. He had better want to be in there, if he didn't I would question his heart. Whether or not he has a poor attitude towards the organization is a matter of opinion.

I'm saying that this is his opportunity. He'll be the starter in a huge game. KC needs him to have a big game. Time to show what he can do.

4th and Long
11-06-2005, 09:23 AM
Give me a break. LJ already proved himself last year after Priest went down.

I'm expecting a big game from LJ. We all know what he can do. At least 150 total yards and 2 or more TDs.
I'm waiting for you to say, "I was wrong. Dead wrong. Horribly wrong. I couldn't have been more wrong. Priest is not playing today. I apologize to the board for making them witness my rants about how Priest was going to play and no one else knew what they were talking about except me."

:D

Count Alex's Losses
11-06-2005, 09:28 AM
I'm waiting for you to say, "I was wrong. Dead wrong. Horribly wrong. I couldn't have been more wrong. Priest is not playing today. I apologize to the board for making them witness my rants about how Priest was going to play and no one else knew what they were talking about except me."

:D

I didn't say he would play. I said I was not willing to accept the fact that he was not playing until it was confirmed on gameday.

JBucc
11-06-2005, 09:30 AM
I love Priest and if he had gotten an earlier start on his career he's be a hall of famer, but I think it's time to move on and let LJ take over.

Skip Towne
11-06-2005, 09:35 AM
Yep, he did, last year.


This year many have said he hasn't had to opportunity to show what he can do. Here is his chance.

Don't misunderstand me.

I'm not saying he can't do it. I hope he does. I'm glad he's pissed off at the lack of playing time. He had better want to be in there, if he didn't I would question his heart. Whether or not he has a poor attitude towards the organization is a matter of opinion.

I'm saying that this is his opportunity. He'll be the starter in a huge game. KC needs him to have a big game. Time to show what he can do.
LJ is averaging 5.3 ypc this season to 3.8 for Priest. Also, his career ypc is 5.0 after 25 carries. Jim Brown was at 4.7 ypc after a similar amount of carries. He has every right to be pissed off about the way he's been treated around here.

4th and Long
11-06-2005, 09:38 AM
I didn't say he would play. I said I was not willing to accept the fact that he was not playing until it was confirmed on gameday.
I hate to do this to you buddy but, you've left me no choice.
There's no way Priest isn't playing.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2799872#post2799872
No mention from you about a game day confirmation there. :shake:
This has happened before. To both Trent and Priest.

There's nothing seriously wrong with either. Both will play.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2799880#post2799880
Or there. :shake:
I still think Priest will play. DV is milking this for all it is worth. Norv is just dumb enough to believe it.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2800689#post2800689
Or there, :shake: although now you're accusing DV or making things up for Turner's benefit. ROFL

Dude, admit it, you were WRONG!

Count Alex's Losses
11-06-2005, 09:46 AM
I WAS WRONG! :( :( :( :(

SDChief
11-06-2005, 10:33 AM
If LJ runs in this game or longer like he did after Preist was injured last year it will be a hard for the coaching staff to start the rotation up if Preist comes back. If they do I would think they would have to reverse the roles to two LJ series to one Preist. I think something is wrong with Priest, he knows LJ is breathing down his neck, and wouldn't miss a game if something wasn't wrong. I love him, but it may be the beginning of the end.

Count Alex's Losses
11-06-2005, 10:36 AM
The 2-1 thing is garbage. They need to scrap it and just "feel it out." Go with the hot hand.

Straight, No Chaser
11-06-2005, 10:36 AM
... Preist... I love him, but it may be the beginning of the end.

:deevee: :deevee: :deevee: I, I, I... Love him too :deevee:

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SDChief
11-06-2005, 10:37 AM
I also have the opinion that LJ is the better back to have in the game with the line being banged up. I don't think he needs them as much as Priest does. LJ can usually run though some people Priest hasn't been able to much this year.

SDChief
11-06-2005, 10:43 AM
The 2-1 thing is garbage. They need to scrap it and just "feel it out." Go with the hot hand.

My guess is this week will be the week it dies. If Priest misses this and next week, and LJ runs like he has when he gets most of the carries and gets rolling, even DV would have a hard time double talking the reason for bringing back the rotation and keeping LJ off the field for two thirds of the game. I think the offense has just run better this year when LJ is on the field. If I see them running the Trich one back formation all day and passing 80% of the time, I'm not going to be happy. It may be the last game I watch all year. Sometimes I think this coaching staff is that stubborn.

SDChief
11-06-2005, 10:46 AM
I think instead of having the 2-1 thing, Preist should be like our "third down back" if/when he comes back. It would suit our team better. He would be in there to pick up the blitz, and catch the ball out of the backfield. He could also run the draws, screens, and pitchouts that he is successful with. LJ is the homerun threat and should be in there on first and second down.

BigChiefFan
11-06-2005, 11:17 AM
Holmes has become injury prone. He's injured every ****in' year it seems.

KC Jones
11-06-2005, 11:48 AM
Everyone knows LJ is going to be the man and Holmes probably figures that too.

LJ isn't the future of this franchise unless we franchise tag him and revisit his deal year after year like the Bengals had to do with Dillon. We're not the basement dwellers that Cinci is, but LJ thinks he's a big time star, or at least he wants to be. He'll want out of KC for certain. I think he'll want to go to the coast and play for a team with a bigger following and more media opportunities even if it means less pay than what he's offered here. Mark it down because once his contract is up he'll be first in line to jump ship.