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ct
11-07-2005, 03:37 PM
From rotoworld...

http://fantasyfootball.rotoworld.com/content/home_nfl.asp?sport=NFL

Priest Holmes - RB - Chiefs


RotoWorld.com and FantasyFootball.com have learned that Priest Holmes will not play in week 10 and is unlikely to play again this season.
Sources close to the situation report that his career is in jeopardy. Larry Johnson will start in week 10 when the Chiefs visit the Buffalo Bills, and Johnson's value should be very high for the rest of season if Holmes shuts it down. If you can pull off a trade to get rid of Holmes or acquire L.J. before this news hits the masses, do it. Nov. 7 - 5:26 pm et

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Bowser
11-07-2005, 03:39 PM
Somewhere, Nick Athan does his best Dr. Evil impersonation.....

Dunit35
11-07-2005, 03:40 PM
I had no idea it was that bad, I'd be shocked if he was out for the year.

ct
11-07-2005, 03:40 PM
who knows anything about fantasyfootball.com? I hate posting in doom-n-gloom shit like this, but this is the Priest. I take this seriously, at least until somebody can clear it up.

DMAC
11-07-2005, 03:41 PM
I declare BullShot

Hydrae
11-07-2005, 03:42 PM
If this is true, Priest is done for good and will retire at the end of the season. I was half expecting him to after this year anyway but if he is out for the end of the third straight year, he will pack it up.

Cochise
11-07-2005, 03:42 PM
I have seen some suspect reporting on Roto. IIRC they were trumpeting the "Green's career is in danger" line around the time of his stent.

Any site that considers ProFootballTalk.com a source worth repeating should not be considered a serious source of information.

ct
11-07-2005, 03:42 PM
I declare BullShot

I hope you are right.

runnercyclist
11-07-2005, 03:44 PM
What's wrong with him anyway. I thought it was a concussion?

mac58
11-07-2005, 03:46 PM
I dont know about this source, but i would doubt we see Priest again for the rest of the year and maybe career.

Big Chief Homer
11-07-2005, 03:54 PM
T-rich was on sirius nfl network and said everything is precautionary.Priest was in working out today and he doesnt see him being out long if at all.

Duck Dog
11-07-2005, 03:54 PM
I didn't draft LJ in the 3rd to the last round in my league for nothing. If history is any indicator.....

ct
11-07-2005, 03:55 PM
that sounds better

sedated
11-07-2005, 03:56 PM
It's just like this organization to cover stuff up.

We've never heard Priest was done for the season until after the season...it's always precautionary, the hip, the knee.

Mr. Laz
11-07-2005, 04:08 PM
it's really hard to tell ... the Chiefs organization pretty much bullchits 90% of the time about this kind of stuff anyway.


we were told priest's injuries weren't serious the last 2 times his season ended early.


have to wait and see *crossing fingers*

The Bad Guy
11-07-2005, 04:17 PM
who knows anything about fantasyfootball.com? I hate posting in doom-n-gloom shit like this, but this is the Priest. I take this seriously, at least until somebody can clear it up.

I write for fantasyfootball.com.

I haven't talked to who got the info though, but they are very reputable guys that have serious connections.

ExtremeChief
11-07-2005, 04:20 PM
An article somewhere on here said that all of the tests were for an injury sustained in the first Oakland game, not for the concussion. Seeing a spinal specialist.

Read it Friday I believe.

BigChiefFan
11-07-2005, 04:20 PM
I sure hope he is okay. LJ is doing a great job, but I think we have a greater shot at going all the way when we have some depth.

Sully
11-07-2005, 04:21 PM
I haven't taken a stance yet on this Priest vs Larry debate, because I have thought they have done a pretty good job playing to their strengths.
But I wonder if Priest being out may actually be helpful. As much as they say that the same offense works for both guys, it was clear yesterday that the better running for Larry was up the middle, for the most part. I wonder if bringing the focus back to one guy would help them develop more of an identity as an offense and more of a long-term (in-game) plan, rather than doling out what's fair to each guy.
I'm not wishing for Priest to be gone, I just wonder if, in the long run, it may help the team gel a little better and focus a little more.

ExtremeChief
11-07-2005, 04:25 PM
I haven't taken a stance yet on this Priest vs Larry debate, because I have thought they have done a pretty good job playing to their strengths.
But I wonder if Priest being out may actually be helpful. As much as they say that the same offense works for both guys, it was clear yesterday that the better running for Larry was up the middle, for the most part. I wonder if bringing the focus back to one guy would help them develop more of an identity as an offense and more of a long-term (in-game) plan, rather than doling out what's fair to each guy.
I'm not wishing for Priest to be gone, I just wonder if, in the long run, it may help the team gel a little better and focus a little more.

I would also think KC runs the ball better up the middle, which is Johnson's forte, with our tackles either being hurt or playing poorly which they seem to recently.

I really don't want to see Priest retire injured, I'd rather have him score a TD in his last game and go out on top.

Mr. Kotter
11-07-2005, 04:27 PM
I dont know about this source, but i would doubt we see Priest again for the rest of the year and maybe career.

Based on what?

Donger
11-07-2005, 04:30 PM
Based on what?

Whitlock, of course: "and Holmes’ latest injury, which might be a bit more serious than the Chiefs are letting on..."

jlscorpio
11-07-2005, 04:30 PM
Let the LJ era begin...

the Talking Can
11-07-2005, 04:31 PM
if true, this sucks....but no one really expected him to make it the whole season anyways..

BigChiefFan
11-07-2005, 04:34 PM
I'm not buying that he's out all year until I hear the Chiefs stance on this.

stevieray
11-07-2005, 04:34 PM
if true, this sucks....but no one really expected him to make it the whole season anyways..

I did and still do.

ExtremeChief
11-07-2005, 04:36 PM
found it




http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansa...ts/13093098.htm

Holmes sees spine specialist
Vermeil stresses running back’s season is not over

By ELIZABETH MERRILL
The Kansas City Star


An air of uncertainty lingers over the health of Priest Holmes, and it may go beyond the Pro Bowl running back missing today’s game with Oakland.

Coach Dick Vermeil said Saturday that Holmes won’t play today, that he’s being evaluated by a well-known spinal specialist, and that Holmes is expected to undergo more tests in coming days.

Holmes’ issue isn’t just the concussion he suffered in last weekend’s helmet-to-helmet collision in San Diego, but also the aftereffects of a shoulder injury from the first Oakland game in September.

He went to California late last week to be evaluated by Robert Watkins, a spine surgeon and co-director of the Los Angeles Spine Surgery Institute at St. Vincent Medical Center. His expertise, according to a St. Vincent Web site, ranges from innovative spine surgeries to treatment of sports-related injuries.

Watkins is renowned for treating serious back, neck and spine injuries. His patient list includes Milwaukee Bucks point guard T.J. Ford, who underwent cervical spine surgery in May 2004, and Royals reliever Scott Sullivan. Ford was out for a year before returning to the basketball court this summer; Sullivan missed half the 2004 season and all of 2005 with a lower-back injury and recently filed for free-agency.

Watkins recently treated Giants cornerback William Peterson, who’s out four to six weeks with a lower back injury.

Vermeil downplayed the significance of Holmes seeing Watkins, saying he’s referred his friends and other players to the doctor. Vermeil said defensive tackle John Browning visited Watkins about the back problems he’s played with since 1998.

“If a player wants a second opinion,” Vermeil said, “that’s a good place to send him.

“He treated the high school fullback I played with in Calistoga. He deals with back injuries and neck injuries. He has a great reputation. He’s been around athletes. He’s not an alarmist. I sent people there when I was with the Rams.”

Holmes, the Chiefs’ career rushing leader, has had injuries cut short two of his last three seasons. He missed the final eight games of 2004 with a strained MCL in his right knee and was inactive in the final two games of 2002 with a right hip injury. Vermeil said Saturday he hasn’t received any information that would suggest that Holmes, 32, is out for the year.

“I haven’t been told that, and Priest hasn’t been told that,” Vermeil said. “They want to do some further tests. The more people who end up evaluating an NFL football player’s injuries, the more opinions you get and it just keeps going and going.

“I don’t think there’s any threat of that at all.”

Holmes has rushed for a team-high 451 yards on 119 carries and appeared refreshed in a two-back rotation with Larry Johnson. With injuries rocking the offensive line, Holmes has found ways to be more creative, fighting for nearly every yard he’s gained.

But as driven as he’s been on the field, Holmes has been equally as obsessed with listening to his body when it tells him he can’t perform. Holmes told reporters last week that this was an injury that couldn’t be physically seen and determined.

“It’s one where you have to go through different tests,” Holmes said, “then once that is determined they will do everything to protect me but make sure I can get out there as quickly as possible.”

Holmes was back in Kansas City early Saturday and was in the locker room after the Chiefs’ short walk-through practice. As the team scattered to spend the rest of the day off, a few fans lingered outside the stadium. At least one of them was wearing Holmes’ No. 31 jersey.

By late Saturday, it was unclear when that number would be called again.

“I don’t even know if he’s in any pain,” Vermeil said. “When he left Thursday he said he was fine. What we’re doing is a thorough examination. When you’re going through thorough examinations, you don’t allow them to play until (they’ve finished) the exam.”

Mr. Kotter
11-07-2005, 04:40 PM
Whitlock, of course: "and Holmes’ latest injury, which might be a bit more serious than the Chiefs are letting on..."

profootball talk, Whitlock, rotosports, Anthon.....everyone claims "insider" info.

I'll believe it when the Chief's report it, I guess. It sucks they aren't more forthcoming on crap like this. :shake:

tommykat
11-07-2005, 04:44 PM
I don't believe Priest is done for the year, but I do believe Priest will retire at the end of the season.

BigChiefFan
11-07-2005, 04:51 PM
found it


“I haven’t been told that, and Priest hasn’t been told that,” Vermeil said. “They want to do some further tests. The more people who end up evaluating an NFL football player’s injuries, the more opinions you get and it just keeps going and going.

“I don’t think there’s any threat of that at all.”

mac58
11-07-2005, 04:59 PM
Based on what?
nothing credible just my thoughts

HemiEd
11-07-2005, 05:00 PM
I have a perception that Priest will be back but LJ will be the primary running back. Pretty nice to have a guy like Priest coming off of the bench.

siberian khatru
11-07-2005, 05:17 PM
It would be just our luck that as soon as Priest is ruled out for the year, LJ blows out a knee.

Bowser
11-07-2005, 05:21 PM
It would be just our luck that as soon as Priest is ruled out for the year, LJ blows out a knee.

May you sneeze and fart simultaneously, continuously for the next 25 years.

KcMizzou
11-07-2005, 05:22 PM
It would be just our luck that as soon as Priest is ruled out for the year, LJ blows out a knee.Gah!

Shhh!

HemiEd
11-07-2005, 05:22 PM
It would be just our luck that as soon as Priest is ruled out for the year, LJ blows out a knee.


That would suck very bad, going from two exceptional RBs to none.

chefsos
11-07-2005, 05:23 PM
May you sneeze and fart simultaneously, continuously for the next 25 years.
You oughtta upgrade (downgrade?) that to wet farts.

SLAG
11-07-2005, 05:24 PM
That would suck very bad, going from two exceptional RBs to none.

What about Big Pimpin Ronnie Cruz?

Or O.G. Mckenzi Smith?

JimNasium
11-07-2005, 05:26 PM
It would be just our luck that as soon as Priest is ruled out for the year, LJ blows out a knee.
Have I mentioned lately just how much I hate you?

HemiEd
11-07-2005, 05:29 PM
What about Big Pimpin Ronnie Cruz?

Or O.G. Mckenzi Smith?


OK, they must be good if we let Samkon Gado go. I should not have been concerned. Darn me!

SLAG
11-07-2005, 05:30 PM
OK, they must be good if we let Samkon Gado go. I should not have been concerned. Darn me!


Yah Gado Couldnt Catch Colquitts punts either

HemiEd
11-07-2005, 05:32 PM
Yah Gado Couldnt Catch Colquitts punts either


Nobody can, that punter is amazing, amazing.

KChiefsQT
11-07-2005, 05:33 PM
It would be just our luck that as soon as Priest is ruled out for the year, LJ blows out a knee.

Noooooooooo! :banghead: