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SPchief
11-08-2005, 10:00 PM
Jack harry reports he may retire as early as thursday

jspchief
11-08-2005, 10:01 PM
Is Harry reliable? Or is he another one of the typical KC hacks that passes bullshit off as news?

acasas4
11-08-2005, 10:01 PM
No chit? Do you have a link or anything?

SPchief
11-08-2005, 10:02 PM
reported on chanel 41
take it as you see it

acasas4
11-08-2005, 10:03 PM
Man, when I heard he was going to all the docs I thought the injury was more than the Chiefs were letting on but this is a surprise.

Rausch
11-08-2005, 10:04 PM
Not fitting.

Just...not fitting.

Mr. Laz
11-08-2005, 10:04 PM
Is Harry reliable? Or is he another one of the typical KC hacks that passes bullshit off as news?

a little of both


he's not a hack ... but he does let his emotions take over and says stuff that isn't 100%.

morphius
11-08-2005, 10:05 PM
And we all know who jack's great "inside" source.

tk13
11-08-2005, 10:05 PM
Gah I hope not. No matter what happens between him and LJ I don't think anyone wants to see it end like this. :(

Then again, the amount of inaccurate rumors we've had this season has been incredible.

Lonewolf Ed
11-08-2005, 10:05 PM
Is Harry reliable? Or is he another one of the typical KC hacks that passes bullshit off as news?

Not really. He likes to stir up bullshit and pass it off as news.

Extra Point
11-08-2005, 10:05 PM
He just got the hell knocked out of him over the years, and it's time for him to walk off the field. At least he can walk! Wonder what the lump biopsy will find. Hopefully, its calcium.

Shag
11-08-2005, 10:06 PM
If it's true, that will be a sad day. Would like to see him leave the game on his own terms...

tommykat
11-08-2005, 10:07 PM
Jack harry reports he may retire as early as thursday

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

acasas4
11-08-2005, 10:07 PM
If it's true, that will be a sad day. Would like to see him leave the game on his own terms...Absolutely.

Frazod
11-08-2005, 10:07 PM
If it's true, that will be a sad day. Would like to see him leave the game on his own terms...

We've got Larry. It's not nearly as sad as it could have been.

But let's see if its true first.

Phobia
11-08-2005, 10:08 PM
That's what I've been hearing since last Friday as well.

HemiEd
11-08-2005, 10:09 PM
I hope he is not seriously injured, and I hope this report is BS. But, if his ability to live a life after football is threatened he should retire. :(

Pitt Gorilla
11-08-2005, 10:09 PM
If he had reported that Priest would definitely NOT be retiring on Thursday, I'd be more worried.

siberian khatru
11-08-2005, 10:09 PM
Rhonda Moss screamed this out while Jack was bending her over a chair and chewing Viagra like it was Chicklets. The whole thing was videotaped by Nick Athan.

Pitt Gorilla
11-08-2005, 10:10 PM
Rhonda Moss screamed this out while Jack was bending her over a chair and chewing Viagra like it was Chicklets. The whole thing was videotaped by Nick Athan.
DUDE! I was trying to eat. Damn.

tk13
11-08-2005, 10:11 PM
Rhonda Moss screamed this out while Jack was bending her over a chair and chewing Viagra like it was Chicklets. The whole thing was videotaped by Nick Athan.
Keitzman was sitting naked in a corner in a fuzzy chair carressing his downtown stadium, if you will.

Cochise
11-08-2005, 10:13 PM
And we all know who jack's great "inside" source.

Yeah... hopefully this is another one of the Trotter/Hartwell/Law special insights and not the truth.

Mr. Laz
11-08-2005, 10:14 PM
you know ... i forgot about the nick athan factor.

Jack seems to believe Athan for some reason

Phobia
11-08-2005, 10:15 PM
Like I said, the rumor has been going around town for nearly a week. If Jack Harry wanted to spread garbage, you'd have seen it earlier. He's obviously got some good info on this. I would be scared if I were you - this time.

4th and Long
11-08-2005, 10:16 PM
Why do you people post stupid bullshit like this? Just to ask for neg rep and piss me off? This ranks up there with all the f*cking "Ty Law to KC" threads and and "Will TO be a Chief?" threads.

Cochise
11-08-2005, 10:18 PM
Like I said, the rumor has been going around town for nearly a week. If Jack Harry wanted to spread garbage, you'd have seen it earlier. He's obviously got some good info on this. I would be scared if I were you - this time.

Well, hopefully there's nothing to it but this concerns me. Not knowing what the sources are or anything. Hopefully this is like the stent fiasco.

But I do remember him saying before that he didn't want to be one of those guys who hung on too long or ruined his body.

The man deserves to go out better than this... for sure.

tk13
11-08-2005, 10:19 PM
Like I said, the rumor has been going around town for nearly a week. If Jack Harry wanted to spread garbage, you'd have seen it earlier. He's obviously got some good info on this. I would be scared if I were you - this time.
Well I'm worried about it, because head injuries are nothing to sneeze at... but, considering this is coming from the Harry/Athan camp and the fact that we've had eleventy billion false rumors about people being in serious danger this season alone, I can understand the skepticism. It's like somebody is leaking something new couple weeks to screw with everybody.

Rausch
11-08-2005, 10:20 PM
Like I said, the rumor has been going around town for nearly a week. If Jack Harry wanted to spread garbage, you'd have seen it earlier. He's obviously got some good info on this. I would be scared if I were you - this time.

I'm still ticked I didn't get the chance to yark up some quality brew on Athan a few weeks ago...

OldTownChief
11-08-2005, 10:20 PM
I hope he is not seriously injured, and I hope this report is BS. But, if his ability to live a life after football is threatened he should retire. :(


I agree but truly sad if he has to go out this way. Say it aint so.

SoCalBronco
11-08-2005, 10:20 PM
That would be very sad. While he is slightly on the decline, Priest is still a very productive football player and has achieved many great things in the last few years. I hope he has talked to several different doctors and has made sure that retirement is the only realistic option because leaving the game is a huge decision to make and he should be sure that it is the necessary route before he makes the decision. Much props to Priest for his career if he indeed does retire.

chiefs4me
11-08-2005, 10:25 PM
Like I said, the rumor has been going around town for nearly a week. If Jack Harry wanted to spread garbage, you'd have seen it earlier. He's obviously got some good info on this. I would be scared if I were you - this time.






:(

Mr. Laz
11-08-2005, 10:26 PM
on Fox 4 in kc...

Frank boal just said that "vermeil said he expects Holmes to play against buffalo"

he said that the rumor about Priest being done was an "internet rumor"

boal only reports the concrete stuff... so i don't think anything is decided yet.

Phobia
11-08-2005, 10:29 PM
on Fox 4 in kc...

Frank boal just said that "vermeil said he expects Holmes to play against buffalo"

Yeah. Because Vermeil is always straight up with injury news. I'd sure listen to him.

Dunit35
11-08-2005, 10:31 PM
on Fox 4 in kc...

Frank boal just said that "vermeil said he expects Holmes to play against buffalo"

he said that the rumor about Priest being done was an "internet rumor"

boal only reports the concrete stuff... so i don't think anything is decided yet.

Well that makes things better, I dont believe anything untill hes suited up on sunday or the week after.

Rausch
11-08-2005, 10:32 PM
Yeah. Because Vermeil is always straight up with injury news. I'd sure listen to him.

Holmes has always been secretive about his health and DV didn't exactly come off as knowing WTF was going on in his press conference...

Mr. Laz
11-08-2005, 10:32 PM
Yeah. Because Vermeil is always straight up with injury news. I'd sure listen to him.
hey man ... your preaching to the choir.


i know the vermeil doesn't have any problem lying through his teeth to the fans.



i'm just saying that Boal hasn't sniffed anything official yet.

Phobia
11-08-2005, 10:33 PM
i'm just saying that Boal hasn't sniffed anything official yet.

If it were official, there would be a press conference scheduled and it would appear on kcchiefs.com.

Wile_E_Coyote
11-08-2005, 10:36 PM
Len Dawson only replayed the DV press conference spot on Priest.

They did show a piece on LJ, saying fans posted signs in his yard congratulating him on the game Sunday & kids brought cookies to his door. He seemed excited about the attention

philfree
11-08-2005, 10:40 PM
Does anybody here really think Holmes will retire because of an injury without trying to make a comeback? Holmes is all about coming back from injury and anyone who's missed that hasn't been paying attention to #31s career. :shake:

PhilFree:arrow:

siberian khatru
11-08-2005, 10:41 PM
If it were official, there would be a press conference scheduled and it would appear on kcchiefs.com.

You're not going to break out the Superfans smack again are you?

Fruit Ninja
11-08-2005, 10:42 PM
Then again, people dont get 3rd opinions for nothing. Something is up though.

Fat Elvis
11-08-2005, 10:45 PM
Does anybody here really think Holmes will retire because of an injury without trying to make a comeback? Holmes is all about coming back from injury and anyone who's missed that hasn't been paying attention to #31s career. :shake:

PhilFree:arrow:

Spinal lump, nuff said.

Anyong Bluth
11-08-2005, 10:45 PM
Jack Harry is the Don Fortune of 2005. He is a KK lacky and talks more about playing golf, kissing 810 ass, and veiled jabs at KU while being an MU blowhard.

Nerve damage is nothing to joke about, and I think most here would agree that if there was a serious threat to him if he further played, Priest would hang them up before chancing it. He has spoke about his fear of being run down after retirement on a number of occasions.

HolmeZz
11-08-2005, 10:46 PM
To think that I've seen the last of Priest on the field is just wayyyyyyyyy too depressing.

C-Mac
11-08-2005, 10:46 PM
Then again, people dont get 3rd opinions for nothing. Something is up though.
If the first two doc's disagree.... then a third opinion is quite common.

CosmicPal
11-08-2005, 10:53 PM
I hope all is well with Priest. I figured this would be his last season, but I never anticipated it would come so soon. I would respect his decision to leave the game in order to protect his health.

Simplex3
11-08-2005, 10:54 PM
Does anybody here really think Holmes will retire because of an injury without trying to make a comeback? Holmes is all about coming back from injury and anyone who's missed that hasn't been paying attention to #31s career. :shake:

PhilFree:arrow:
If that injury were a spinal injury that could be aggrivated by a blow? I'd hope he would retire. I'd rather see him retire than wind up all f**ked up.

Ultra Peanut
11-08-2005, 10:57 PM
I hope it's not true... God, I hope it's not true. :(

But if it's down to him quitting or playing and risking serious post-football impediment, there's no way in hell I want to see him on the field again.

Rausch
11-08-2005, 10:58 PM
To think that I've seen the last of Priest on the field is just wayyyyyyyyy too depressing.

It'd be a ****ing crime for the man to not win a ring while he was a Chief...

Fruit Ninja
11-08-2005, 10:59 PM
If the first two doc's disagree.... then a third opinion is quite common.
Then that means there is huge reason for concern, if the 2 are not agree'ing then 1 see's that there is something wrong.

BigRock
11-08-2005, 10:59 PM
So is anyone reporting this beside Jack Harry?

philfree
11-08-2005, 10:59 PM
Spinal lump, nuff said.

I've been out of town till tonight so I haven't done any fact gathering yet but I can't see Holmes retiring till he has enough time to really evaluate his situation. I also suspect that he'll retire in what is the most cap friendly way possible for the Chiefs. I've been wrong before but that's my opinion as of now.

Where did the spinal lump report come from? I'm not asking that to be a jerk either I just want to get the facts.


PhilFree:arrow:

HolmeZz
11-08-2005, 11:03 PM
http://news.footballguys.com/new/blogger.php

"Rumor: Holmes To Retire
NBC Affiliate in KC

At 10 PM Central NBC News led off with a story about news on RB Priest Holmes. Jack Harry, Sports Director for that station reported that he spoke with two higher sources within the Chiefs organization and they have said that Priest Holmes indeed may retire as early as tomorrow. In Florida today, Holmes was getting a 3rd opinion on the hit he took from SD DE Shawn Merriman two weeks ago. Apparently what has been found is a lump on or within Priest's spine and if he were to take one more big hit, he could face paralysis."

Skip Towne
11-08-2005, 11:12 PM
It'd be a ****ing crime for the man to not win a ring while he was a Chief...
He already has a ring. He'd probably be satisfied with a playoff win.

beavis
11-08-2005, 11:13 PM
Didn't see this anywhere else...

Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2217898)

Chiefs still unsure when Holmes will return


KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- The Kansas City Chiefs still don't know when Priest Holmes will be able to return to the field.

Holmes sustained a mild concussion at San Diego on Oct. 30 and was held out of Sunday's 27-23 victory over Oakland. He was in Miami on Tuesday getting a third opinion after seeing a specialist in California last week, and was expected to return to Kansas City on Tuesday night.

"I don't have any information," coach Dick Vermeil said. "In fact, sometimes I get upset because I don't have more information. But the information and communication system is in the right hands."

When the three-time Pro Bowl running back is cleared to play again, it will be as the Chiefs' starter -- even though Larry Johnson has both of Kansas City's 100-yard rushing games this year.

Johnson ran for 107 yards against Oakland and scored the game-winning touchdown on a 1-yard leap as time ran out. He set up that score with a 36-yard catch-and-run play to the Raiders 1-yard line.

For all that, though, Vermeil wants Holmes back as soon as possible -- especially with the Chiefs (5-3) suiting up three backs against the Raiders. Two -- Tony Richardson and Ronnie Cruz -- are fullbacks.

Although the Chiefs could go with Johnson as their halfback again Sunday against Buffalo, Vermeil said, "I'm hoping that doesn't happen. We know how talented he is, but we know we need two good running backs."

Vermeil, who had been using Holmes in two of every three offensive rotations, left no doubt as to his preference for the veteran.

"If you want to base it on merit, you have to look at everything Priest Holmes has done," Vermeil said. "His numbers have been the best in the NFL."

In the past, yes. But Holmes, who won the NFL rushing title in 2001 and was leading the league at midseason last year when he went down with a knee injury, ranks behind Johnson this year in yards per carry and yards per catch.

Holmes has 119 rushing attempts for 451 yards, an average of 3.8 yards per carry, and 21 receptions for 197 yards, an average of 9.4 yards per catch.

Johnson averages 5.2 yards per carry, with 506 yards on 97 attempts, and his nine catches for 115 yards give him an average of 12.8 yards per reception.

A good deal of Holmes' offensive style is predicated on getting to the outside, though, and Kansas City has been without Pro Bowl left tackle Willie Roaf for four games this year because of a recurring hamstring injury.

"We haven't had Willie Roaf, and all these things that make [Holmes'] numbers more impressive," Vermeil said. "But he's had some long runs, some 60-yard gains off screens. ... He's been Priest Holmes."

Roaf also missed Sunday's game against Oakland, and Vermeil didn't say whether he expected Roaf to return against Buffalo.

Taco John
11-08-2005, 11:13 PM
Even after all of the "gimp" smack thrown out by Chiefs fans about Terrell Davis, I still feel bad about this if it's true.

Pitt Gorilla
11-08-2005, 11:15 PM
Even after all of the "gimp" smack thrown out by Chiefs fans about Terrell Davis, I still feel bad about this if it's true.None by me. TD was an incredible back. Period.

KCWolfman
11-08-2005, 11:19 PM
Even after all of the "gimp" smack thrown out by Chiefs fans about Terrell Davis, I still feel bad about this if it's true.
Well, if it is true, you are only about 2 years off your prediction of his impending doom.

Taco John
11-08-2005, 11:21 PM
Well, if it is true, you are only about 2 years off your prediction of his impending doom.


Take that!

Skip Towne
11-08-2005, 11:21 PM
If Holmes can crawl back onto the field, VD will give him the load. Makes me sick. Does he even look at the numbers? And his comments about what all Priest has done in the past totally shows his ignorance. Who gives a f*ck about that?

The Bad Guy
11-08-2005, 11:21 PM
Does anybody here really think Holmes will retire because of an injury without trying to make a comeback? Holmes is all about coming back from injury and anyone who's missed that hasn't been paying attention to #31s career. :shake:

PhilFree:arrow:

Yep. Because afterall, if he does have a spinal injury, it's worth attempting to come back to play a game and run the risk of being paralyzed.

chefsos
11-08-2005, 11:22 PM
http://news.footballguys.com/new/blogger.php

"Rumor: Holmes To Retire
NBC Affiliate in KC

At 10 PM Central NBC News led off with a story about news on RB Priest Holmes. Jack Harry, Sports Director for that station reported that he spoke with two higher sources within the Chiefs organization and they have said that Priest Holmes indeed may retire as early as tomorrow. In Florida today, Holmes was getting a 3rd opinion on the hit he took from SD DE Shawn Merriman two weeks ago. Apparently what has been found is a lump on or within Priest's spine and if he were to take one more big hit, he could face paralysis."

Shit. I didn't want to see that.

Cochise
11-08-2005, 11:23 PM
Shit. I didn't want to see that.

Well they are all working off the same report, so hopefully Harry's information is flawed.

KCWolfman
11-08-2005, 11:25 PM
Yep. Because afterall, if he does have a spinal injury, it's worth attempting to come back to play a game and run the risk of being paralyzed.
I don't think he would risk it. He has already contemplated retirement in the past.

If he plays, and stays healthy, cool.

If he retires, I appreciate all he has done to make our offense exciting again. God bless him either way.

jspchief
11-08-2005, 11:26 PM
A few days ago, when Vermeil said he hadn't spoke with Priest, but Carl had, I started to get a bad feeling.

Why would Priest be talking to CP about the injury, and not Vermeil? Wouldn't the coach need to know if he should plan on his starting RB playing?

My guess is there is some merit to this report.

joesomebody
11-08-2005, 11:30 PM
If its true, I hope he sticks around KC, maybe even gets into coaching. Priest seems to quiet and mild mannered to be any type of broadcaster.

I'd prefer it not be true, and that he come back and prove to KC ONCE AGAIN that he should be our starting back, and it should not be questioned.

By all means, I like Johnson, am glad we have Johnson, and am very impressed with LJ, however I still say Priest should get the starts as long as hes healthy this season. Next season, it may be time to reevaluate who should get the bulk of the carries, and if Priest has nagging injuries, then by all means. But if Preist comes back fully healthy in his and the team doctors opinions, he should start.

BigRedChief
11-08-2005, 11:32 PM
A few days ago, when Vermeil said he hadn't spoke with Priest, but Carl had, I started to get a bad feeling.

Why would Priest be talking to CP about the injury, and not Vermeil? Wouldn't the coach need to know if he should plan on his starting RB playing?

My guess is there is some merit to this report.

Guys I've been told by a reliable source that Priest has been told by the Dr.s that he has seen that a hit in the right way and in the right place could cause paralysis. Doesn't know anything about some tumor or golf ball size tumor involvment.

Just passing it along. I don't know this for a fact. Just what I'm told. Don't take as fact but just a rumor.

I think this is a case of where there is smoke theres probably a fire.

Skip Towne
11-08-2005, 11:33 PM
Priest is financially set. Doubtful we see him again. Where there is smoke there is fire.

KCWolfman
11-08-2005, 11:34 PM
Guys I've been told by a reliable source that Priest has been told by the Dr.s that he has seen that a hit in the right way and in the right place could cause paralysis. Doesn't know anything about some tumor or golf ball size tumor involvment.

Just passing it along. I don't know this for a fact. Just what I'm told. Don't take as fact but just a rumor.

I think this is a case of where there is smoke theres probably a fire.
Isn't the first paragraph true for any football player, healthy or not?

See Dennis Byrd of the Jets.

philfree
11-08-2005, 11:37 PM
Yep. Because afterall, if he does have a spinal injury, it's worth attempting to come back to play a game and run the risk of being paralyzed.

Those are your words Frank. I don't know the facts and maybe you have some inside info on the situation but even if Holmes has a career ending injury do you think he'd retire right now? I don't know the cap ramifications of a in-season retirement but I don't see Holmes retiring immediately.

PhilFree:arrow:

BigRedChief
11-08-2005, 11:37 PM
Isn't the first paragraph true for any football player, healthy or not?

See Dennis Byrd of the Jets.

Chit man I wouldn't want to see Priest like that. He made that KC offense go. It has been a blast to watch him play. Don't need to risk it for the team. Go enjoy your family. We will be fine with LJ.

jspchief
11-08-2005, 11:38 PM
Those are your words Frank. I don't know the facts and maybe you have some inside info on the situation but even if Holmes has a career ending injury do you think he'd retire right now? I don't know the cap ramifications of a in-season retirement but I don't see Holmes retiring immediately.

PhilFree:arrow:Any player that remains on the team through week 6, gets his entire year's salary.

philfree
11-08-2005, 11:45 PM
Any player that remains on the team through week 6, gets his entire year's salary.

Yeah but that does not have any to do with our 2006 cap does it? If he is done, god forbid, how would putting him on IR affect the cap? This year and next?

I'm not wanting Holmes to play with an increased risk period but to me the retirement talk seems premature. I just want the facts.


PhilFree:arrow:

gcbroncos
11-08-2005, 11:57 PM
Wow....I hope Priest is okay.....

Even though I have LJ & not Holmes in fantasy...I'd hate to see it end this way for Holmes...

The guy was truly one of the best backs I had ever seen for about a 4 year span....

I hope the rumor is not true....I hated to see Terrell Davis retire the way he did...and Holmes is truly special so I think he falls in the same category....

His health comes first of course...so if it is true...I offer my condolences Chiefs fans.....

greg63
11-09-2005, 12:04 AM
Not fitting.

Just...not fitting.

Agreed!:shake:

Ebolapox
11-09-2005, 12:05 AM
Len Dawson only replayed the DV press conference spot on Priest.

They did show a piece on LJ, saying fans posted signs in his yard congratulating him on the game Sunday & kids brought cookies to his door. He seemed excited about the attention

maybe he could do a press conference in his driveway while he's working out??

-EB-

Ebolapox
11-09-2005, 12:07 AM
Even after all of the "gimp" smack thrown out by Chiefs fans about Terrell Davis, I still feel bad about this if it's true.

you gotta be f*cking kidding me--this board wasn't even around when TO--errr... TD got his first 'major' injury

-EB-

greg63
11-09-2005, 12:07 AM
Isn't the first paragraph true for any football player, healthy or not?

See Dennis Byrd of the Jets.

Yup!

Count Alex's Losses
11-09-2005, 12:07 AM
Bye, Priest. :(

ferrarispider95
11-09-2005, 12:07 AM
I am sure hope he is ok, Priest is one of those few players that is humble, well spoken, and is a credit to the KC Community.

ferrarispider95
11-09-2005, 12:08 AM
Priest is essentially the anti-TO in respects to attitude, personality, and character.

irishjayhawk
11-09-2005, 12:12 AM
Priest is essentially the anti-TO in respects to attitude, personality, and character.
Well said.

CoMoChief
11-09-2005, 12:14 AM
Now Chargers fans (if there are such things) will always say that their Rookie LB (who they claim is better than DJ) ended our beloved RB Priest Holmes.

Rausch
11-09-2005, 12:44 AM
Now Chargers fans (if there are such things) will always say that their Rookie LB (who they claim is better than DJ) ended our beloved RB Priest Holmes.

But we still have the whole "Donnie Edwards ****ing RUINED two of your QB's" smack...

the Talking Can
11-09-2005, 06:01 AM
Even after all of the "gimp" smack thrown out by Chiefs fans about Terrell Davis, I still feel bad about this if it's true.

yeah, this thread is so about you...good call

we're all relieved to hear how wonderful you are....

patteeu
11-09-2005, 06:18 AM
Jack Harry is the Don Fortune of 2005. He is a KK lacky and talks more about playing golf, kissing 810 ass, and veiled jabs at KU while being an MU blowhard.

Nerve damage is nothing to joke about, and I think most here would agree that if there was a serious threat to him if he further played, Priest would hang them up before chancing it. He has spoke about his fear of being run down after retirement on a number of occasions.

That's his only redeeming quality if you ask me. It almost makes up for all the other crap.

OldTownChief
11-09-2005, 06:24 AM
Even after all of the "gimp" smack thrown out by Chiefs fans about Terrell Davis, I still feel bad about this if it's true.

Who gives a flying **** how you feel? Shit for Brains...

OldTownChief
11-09-2005, 06:33 AM
If Priest retires Thursday, his name should be on the ring of fame by Friday morning and his jersey retired at the next home game with NE.

ChiefFan31
11-09-2005, 06:36 AM
Gimme a break. I have just read umpteen threads on this, with absolutely no conrete proof.

its the INTERNET people!

all this speculation over what someone said on talk radio?

Heck it could be true, and it would be a shame. But all I have read is INTERNET speculation with absolutely no facts to back it up.

:rolleyes:

Pants
11-09-2005, 06:44 AM
I just saw all the Priest highlights I have and damn he's amazing. He's a freaking beast slash machine slash god. The jukes, the broken tackles, the burst, we will really miss him when he's gone.

This is why I hate this rbbc bullshit we are running and the whole sitaution overall because I like both LJ and Priest and want them both to do really well.

jspchief
11-09-2005, 07:00 AM
Yeah but that does not have any to do with our 2006 cap does it? If he is done, god forbid, how would putting him on IR affect the cap? This year and next?

I'm not wanting Holmes to play with an increased risk period but to me the retirement talk seems premature. I just want the facts.


PhilFree:arrow:At this point in the season, it would cost the team the exact same whether Priest plays, retires, or goes on IR. On the same note, Priest will make the same amount of money regardless of which path he takes.

There's really no financial reason to delay his retirement. If he can't play, I can't see him prolonging it.

tburg
11-09-2005, 07:02 AM
Off the KSHB webite:

Priest Holmes' Career May Be Over
November 9, 2005

Insiders at Arrowhead Stadium tell NBC Action News Sports Director Jack Harry that Priest Holmes, very possibly, has played his final game in a Chiefs uniform. One highly placed source tells Harry, Holmes could announce his retirement as soon as Thursday.

The 32 year old running back arrived back in town Tuesday night from Miami after undergoing some extensive testing on his spine. Doctors reportedly found a lump and should Holmes take a severe hit, he could become paralyzed. At his weekly press conference Tuesday, head coach Dick Vermeil indicated he didn't really know what was going on with Holmes.

Holmes has already undergone three knee-surgeries. He has failed to finish two of the last 3 seasons. He suffered the head injury in the San Diego game, and has now learned of this latest problem with his spine.

Extra Point
11-09-2005, 07:04 AM
If they didn't switch LJ and PH, then PH may have been really fouled up before Merriman got him. Priest is smart enough not to get back on the game field if his spine can become permanently damaged.

jspchief
11-09-2005, 07:06 AM
Let me just say, Jack Harry should be jobless if this rumor turns out to be false. At the very least, he should expose his alledged "sources".

Dartgod
11-09-2005, 07:27 AM
I'm still not buying any of this until I hear an official announcement from Priest or the Chiefs.

The Bad Guy
11-09-2005, 07:41 AM
Those are your words Frank. I don't know the facts and maybe you have some inside info on the situation but even if Holmes has a career ending injury do you think he'd retire right now? I don't know the cap ramifications of a in-season retirement but I don't see Holmes retiring immediately.

PhilFree:arrow:

I see him retiring right now.

The guy keeps getting opinion, after opinion, after opinion. That isn't good. He's either

Holmes was ready to walk away a few years ago. I absolutely think he would do it if his spine is messed up.

Wile_E_Coyote
11-09-2005, 07:42 AM
If Holmes can crawl back onto the field, VD will give him the load. Makes me sick. Does he even look at the numbers? And his comments about what all Priest has done in the past totally shows his ignorance. Who gives a f*ck about that?

If there is any chance that Priest's career is over, I don't see how DV could say anything different yesterday. Priest deserves better & LJ would understand that

the Talking Can
11-09-2005, 07:48 AM
I blame Nick Athan, regardless of what happens.

tomahawk kid
11-09-2005, 07:52 AM
I don't want to completely discount Harry's report, but remember it is sweeps week. 41 is getting ridiculous publicity out of Harry reporting this on the news last night. I would hope that he has more integrity and common sense than to report something like this based on info from Athan, but I have my doubts.

Also, to put this in perspective, Harry also reported that T-Rich was going to miss 3-4 weeks after the Jets game AND the Chiefs were going to sign John Ritchie as his replacement.


FWIW......

acasas4
11-09-2005, 08:08 AM
Heard this story again this morning on the way to work. If it's true it sucks. I would have liked to have seen Priest retire when he was ready, not because of something like this. I know LJ can handle the load but aren't we thin at running back already?

Gaz
11-09-2005, 08:13 AM
The quantity of “second” opinions Holmes is racking up does not bode well for him returning to the R & G fold.

xoxo~
Gaz
Thinking it might be the right choice to retire.

stevieray
11-09-2005, 08:19 AM
Let me just say, Jack Harry should be jobless if this rumor turns out to be false. At the very least, he should expose his alledged "sources".

I agree...Chiefs should find out who the sources are and can their azzz.

BigRedChief
11-09-2005, 08:21 AM
Sirus radio is reporting Priest is to retire on Thrusday.


Gretz is on the radio saying that nothing is confirmed and they are waiting for the test results from Miami. Pissed at 41 for leaking the story. Says the Chiefs know nothing about this retirement story.

John_Wayne
11-09-2005, 08:24 AM
Let me just say, Jack Harry should be jobless if this rumor turns out to be false. At the very least, he should expose his alledged "sources". Whether this rumor is true or not, Harry should be fired. He's a jackass. He's a bitter old man. I can't stand him.

Demonpenz
11-09-2005, 08:25 AM
I have a feeling once he is gone down the road people are going to realize what we had in PH. It's an f-ing shame as soon as he wasn't breaking 15 yard runs people wanted the next guy to come in. Ring of famer, great all around back, set up the blocks as better than anyone I ever saw.

BigRedChief
11-09-2005, 08:26 AM
Sirus radio is reporting Priest is to retire on Thrusday.

Correction:
Sirus is reporting that word out of KC is that Priest is to retire on Thrusday.

Probably just repeating whats being said locally and nothing new.

the Talking Can
11-09-2005, 08:30 AM
I have a feeling once he is gone down the road people are going to realize what we had in PH. It's an f-ing shame as soon as he wasn't breaking 15 yard runs people wanted the next guy to come in. Ring of famer, great all around back, set up the blocks as better than anyone I ever saw.

what's a shame is that he never got to show it off in the playoffs, that's where reputations are earned in the public;s mind....our whole offense was wasted...

sedated
11-09-2005, 08:34 AM
The guy keeps getting opinion, after opinion, after opinion. That isn't good


How many times has a second opinion turned good? And Priest is getting his third?

Not good, not good at all.

But, at least we get to see the opening act of the LJ Show.

penguinz
11-09-2005, 08:35 AM
This is all Scanlon's fault. His presence in a room causes people to turn their head so fast to see what he will do next that it was bound to cause a serious neck injury sooner than later.

ct
11-09-2005, 08:38 AM
I agree with many who state that Priest going to multiple exams and opinions is not a good thing. Yet I still don't buy this, and I was the 1st to post this internet rumor on the planet. I hate posting rumors, but something like that had to at least be passed along to discus/disclaim/confirm.

One thing I can be pretty sure about, Priest will NOT just retire, when he's got half a season of paychecks to ride our the year on IR. This also provides the slim possivilities of a change of diagnosis from the medical folks, or change of heart from Priest himself, and also buys time for the organization to plan for the cap impact of a retirement.

Here's to the hope this is all a big nutin story.

acasas4
11-09-2005, 08:39 AM
I have a feeling once he is gone down the road people are going to realize what we had in PH. It's an f-ing shame as soon as he wasn't breaking 15 yard runs people wanted the next guy to come in. Ring of famer, great all around back, set up the blocks as better than anyone I ever saw.100% CORRECT

Dr. Facebook Fever
11-09-2005, 08:39 AM
Didn't look through the whole thread to see if this has been posted already.... but if not, here's the link.




http://www.kshb.com/kshb/nw_local_news/article/0,1925,KSHB_9424_4224365,00.html

stevieray
11-09-2005, 08:40 AM
what's a shame is that he never got to show it off in the playoffs, that's where reputations are earned in the public;s mind....our whole offense was wasted...


2003

siberian khatru
11-09-2005, 08:44 AM
I have a feeling once he is gone down the road people are going to realize what we had in PH. It's an f-ing shame as soon as he wasn't breaking 15 yard runs people wanted the next guy to come in. Ring of famer, great all around back, set up the blocks as better than anyone I ever saw.

Don't take it so personally. Because it's not personal. Nobody suddenly thought Priest was a bad guy. And no one thought he should be released or benched. It's strictly business -- what is best for the team? It's a legitimate opinion that LJ offers the Chiefs more big-play ability. People can disagree, and point to other things Priest does well (catch passes, block, intangibles), but arguing that LJ AT THIS POINT IN TIME is a little better and deserving of more playing time is not the same thing as saying "F*ck you, Priest."

Priest is a sure-fire Ring of Famer and I'd hope he will stick around after he retires and be an ambassador for the team. He's one of my all-time favorite Chiefs. And I say that while arguing that I think the team needs LJ's explosiveness in there more often. I also hope Priest isn't finished and that he will continue being a valuable contributor to this team.

BigRedChief
11-09-2005, 08:44 AM
One thing I can be pretty sure about, Priest will NOT just retire, when he's got half a season of paychecks to ride our the year on IR.

jspchief already said that if you are playing after week 6 you get the whole years salary no matter what.

ROYC75
11-09-2005, 08:47 AM
Wayne Cherbet just retired with the full years pay, why can't Priest ?

JamSec128
11-09-2005, 08:50 AM
The snowball effect of the rumors begun, a co worker just came in and said that he heard on the radio Priest has a cancerous lump on his neck and press conf is scheduled for today. Come on ppl….

IF any part to this retirement rumor plays to be the true…Can you imagine the crowd at Arrowhead on Nov 27th? It will be a SEA of 31…And let me say Thank You Priest Holmes you filled our football hearts after 58 left them….

jspchief
11-09-2005, 08:51 AM
Wayne Cherbet just retired with the full years pay, why can't Priest ?Any player that makes it on the team past week 6 gets their full year's pay.

Money will have no bearing on how this plays out.

Demonpenz
11-09-2005, 08:51 AM
[QUOTE=siberian khatru]Don't take it so personally. Because it's not personal. Nobody suddenly thought Priest was a bad guy. And no one thought he should be released or benched. It's strictly business -- what is best for the team? It's a legitimate opinion that LJ offers the Chiefs more big-play ability. People can disagree, and point to other things Priest does well (catch passes, block, intangibles), but arguing that LJ AT THIS POINT IN TIME is a little better and deserving of more playing time is not the same thing as saying "F*ck you, Priest."

at this point in time is correct, but shit it happened everywhere, from texas, baltimore, to KC, as soon as the next pot smoking, crack dealing, wife beating back got to town people wanted priest to give up carries.

ROYC75
11-09-2005, 08:56 AM
Any player that makes it on the team past week 6 gets their full year's pay.

Money will have no bearing on how this plays out.

I know, I was just responding to coryt, without the quote in it.

Frazod
11-09-2005, 08:58 AM
Hey, I love the guy. I love what he's done for the city and team. I hate it that his talent was wasted because Carl & Co. didn't get a defense until it was too late.

But this is a guy who has ended two of the last three seasons on IR, and now he's hurt again.

I wish Priest was still 100%. I also wish I was still thin and had my hair. Getting old is a bitch.

If he comes back healthy, that's great. If he doesn't, thanks for the memories and let's move the f#ck on. Nobody else is getting any younger, either.

Anyong Bluth
11-09-2005, 09:10 AM
Let me just say, Jack Harry should be jobless if this rumor turns out to be false. At the very least, he should expose his alledged "sources".


Count me in for showing up should anyone else want to picket outside the station and force the hand of KC sports market in getting this guy canned. Let him go set up shop somewhere else and play rumor mill.

JamSec128
11-09-2005, 09:24 AM
810 just said Priests agent is denying reports that he is retiring. But the Chiefs will be holding a press conference today. Looks like ol Jack Harry may end up looking like a moron again

JamSec128
11-09-2005, 09:26 AM
Further more they said the presser today was to clarify the situation with Priest, but nothing more has been said than that

BigRedChief
11-09-2005, 09:29 AM
Further more they said the presser today was to clarify the situation with Priest, but nothing more has been said than that

Dude they don't hold press conferences to deny a rumor. They release a statement saying its a BS rumor. Has that statement been released? No.

They have a presser to announce big news. More evidence if you ask me that this story could be true.

StcChief
11-09-2005, 09:31 AM
Press Conference
That is usually bad news (likely retire) in this situation.

Priest has to do what's best, gotta long life ahead.

don't screw that up if your not really able to continue.

JamSec128
11-09-2005, 09:33 AM
Dude they don't hold press conferences to deny a rumor. They release a statement saying its a BS rumor. Has that statement been released? No.

They have a presser to announce big news. More evidence if you ask me that this story could be true.

Dude I said Looks like ol Jack Harry MAY end up looking like a moron, I agree that you don't hold a press conf to deny a rumor, just stated word for word what 810 was reporting....

hawkchief
11-09-2005, 09:37 AM
If, in fact Priest is going to retire, ehy in the hell would he bi in any rush to do it? That alosne makes me think Hairball's story is full of it.

jspchief
11-09-2005, 09:39 AM
If, in fact Priest is going to retire, ehy in the hell would he bi in any rush to do it? That alosne makes me think Hairball's story is full of it.If he's retiring due to a career ending injury, why would he drag it out? If he's not going to play anymore, he might as well retire. Besides, it will clear his roster spot.

Chiefs Pantalones
11-09-2005, 09:42 AM
They could be holding a press conference to clear everything up and say he's not retiring. They realize that it's a blown up story, they want to clear crap up.

JamSec128
11-09-2005, 09:47 AM
But like BigRedChief said they don't normally hold press conferences to clear up press rumors.

DJJasonp
11-09-2005, 09:47 AM
For what it's worth.....

ESPN news is reporting this now....that he may retire as early as tomorrow.......

tomahawk kid
11-09-2005, 09:50 AM
For what it's worth.....

ESPN news is reporting this now....that he may retire as early as tomorrow.......

They're probably just picking up on the local story.

No biggie there.

ESPN News also reported that Ty Law and the Chiefs had reached a contract agreement, after "Wrongda Mossivegut" reported it on 610.

jspchief
11-09-2005, 09:50 AM
This could have been a lot less of a cluster f*ck if the Chiefs had been upfront about it to begin with.

Vermeil stands there and lies through his teeth about not knowing what's going on, as if he's completely disinterested in the status of his starting RB.

That already forces us to guess at what is happening, which in turn almost ensures that any rumor will start a frenzy

Rukdafaidas
11-09-2005, 09:50 AM
Anyone know what time the press conference is today?

CosmicPal
11-09-2005, 09:51 AM
If, in fact Priest is going to retire, ehy in the hell would he bi in any rush to do it? That alosne makes me think Hairball's story is full of it.

He thought about NOT playing this year. His family is number ONE to him- football was second. If he's got nerve damage that prevents him from playing 100 percent- then by all means retire now.

JamSec128
11-09-2005, 09:52 AM
810 reported eariler that they haven't announced that yet...

DJJasonp
11-09-2005, 09:53 AM
I only listen to DV for comedic value these days....

I never expect to hear anything remotely meaningful or insightful.

He's reached that level where Marty was towards the end when it no longer was cool to hear "ALRIGHT GENTLEMEN....ONE BRICK AT A TIME....LET'S BUILD THAT HOUSE"....it just became funny/shameful after a while.

MOhillbilly
11-09-2005, 09:54 AM
He thought about NOT playing this year. His family is number ONE to him- football was second. If he's got nerve damage that prevents him from playing 100 percent- then by all means retire now.

he came off like money was his #1 concern a few back.

Chiefs Pantalones
11-09-2005, 09:55 AM
I only listen to DV for comedic value these days....

I never expect to hear anything remotely meaningful or insightful.

He's reached that level where Marty was towards the end when it no longer was cool to hear "ALRIGHT GENTLEMEN....ONE BRICK AT A TIME....LET'S BUILD THAT HOUSE"....it just became funny/shameful after a while.

I agree. I want DV gone after this year in the worst way.

Chiefs Pantalones
11-09-2005, 09:55 AM
he came off like money was his #1 concern a few back.

He had to feed his family. ROFL

MOhillbilly
11-09-2005, 09:56 AM
I agree. I want DV gone after this year in the worst way.


screw that, i want them all gone from CP down.

Chiefs Pantalones
11-09-2005, 09:57 AM
screw that, i want them all gone from CP down.

I agree, but the best we're probably going to get is just DV. CP fills the stands, so that automatically gives him a free ride.

penguinz
11-09-2005, 09:58 AM
screw that, i want them all gone from CP down.
Why do you want the Planet to go down? :shrug:

















:p

MOhillbilly
11-09-2005, 10:01 AM
I agree, but the best we're probably going to get is just DV. CP fills the stands, so that automatically gives him a free ride.

Screw that KC fans deserve bragin rights!

Chiefs Pantalones
11-09-2005, 10:04 AM
I want them all gone. Please. Clean house.

HemiEd
11-09-2005, 11:13 AM
I want them all gone. Please. Clean house.


I hope this guy does not return to the Chiefs.

Cochise
11-09-2005, 11:14 AM
I hope you do not regret this by having this guy return to the Chiefs.

Isn't he the guy that holds the cue cards for Letterman?

Coach
11-09-2005, 11:14 AM
Anyone know what time the press conference is today?

That would be my question as well.

Anyone?

HemiEd
11-09-2005, 11:15 AM
Isn't he the guy that holds the cue cards for Letterman?


ROFL Jimmy Raye

dirk digler
11-09-2005, 11:45 AM
Here is what 810 is reporting now.

Priest is not retiring right now, the Chiefs will address the situation after practice today.

Also Priest was supposed to be on KK show today but will not so the Chiefs can address this issue but he will be on KK's show tomorrow afternoon.

Count Alex's Losses
11-09-2005, 11:47 AM
ROFL Jimmy Raye

Speaking of Mister Raye, did anyone else like his playcalling yesterday? ROFL

After San Diego raped KC by passing early, Raye's gameplan was to pound away at the KC run defense.

Also, on 2nd and 25 and 3rd and 23 he ran on both plays on Oakland's first drive.

ROFL

jspchief
11-09-2005, 11:48 AM
Here is what 810 is reporting now.

Priest is not retiring right now, the Chiefs will address the situation after practice today.

Also Priest was supposed to be on KK show today but will not so the Chiefs can address this issue but he will be on KK's show tomorrow afternoon.I'll repeat what I said earlier in this thread...

This could have been a lot less of a cluster f*ck if the Chiefs had been upfront about it to begin with.

Vermeil stands there and lies through his teeth about not knowing what's going on, as if he's completely disinterested in the status of his starting RB.

They leave us with no option but to speculate and guess, and this is the end result.

dirk digler
11-09-2005, 11:51 AM
I'll repeat what I said earlier in this thread...

This could have been a lot less of a cluster f*ck if the Chiefs had been upfront about it to begin with.

Vermeil stands there and lies through his teeth about not knowing what's going on, as if he's completely disinterested in the status of his starting RB.

They leave us with no option but to speculate and guess, and this is the end result.

Yep but have the Chiefs ever been upfront about anything? No big surprise especially with CP at the helm.

RedDread
11-09-2005, 11:55 AM
ESPN.com just picked up on this story

KChiefsQT
11-09-2005, 11:58 AM
:deevee: :harumph: If Holmes could injury himself further by playing, I hope he does retire, for his sake. This guy carried our team on his back.. and its more than sad to see him go. Gotta love the priest folks.

jspchief
11-09-2005, 11:59 AM
Yep but have the Chiefs ever been upfront about anything? No big surprise especially with CP at the helm.Yea. It just seems like every injury to Holmes has to be a big f*cking enigma.

I guess they are free to handle it whichever way they choose. But this latest episode is a good example of the potential fallout of leaving hungry Chiefs fans guessing.

kcirnamffoh
11-09-2005, 12:20 PM
This could have been a lot less of a cluster f*ck if the Chiefs had been upfront about it to begin with.

Vermeil stands there and lies through his teeth about not knowing what's going on, as if he's completely disinterested in the status of his starting RB.

They leave us with no option but to speculate and guess, and this is the end result.

It leaves YOU with no option, apparently. I on the other hand just wait for the facts. I don't know what you expect of Vermeil. To just go off half cocked on something that is not completely understood. What if he announces what so far everyone thinks they know and it is all wrong. Then you would be blasting him for that! Some people can never do anything right in other's eyes, it seems.

MOhillbilly
11-09-2005, 12:22 PM
It leaves YOU with no option, apparently. I on the other hand just wait for the facts. I don't know what you expect of Vermeil. To just go off half cocked on something that is not completely understood. What if he announces what so far everyone thinks they know and it is all wrong. Then you would be blasting him for that! Some people can never do anything right in other's eyes, it seems.

Win a Championship game and that will change.

BigRedChief
11-09-2005, 12:22 PM
Nov 9 Associated Press reports Kansas City Chiefs director of public relations Bob Moore said the team will not have any updates on RB Priest Holmes (head, shoulder) until sometime Wednesday, Nov. 9. However, he noted he does not think Holmes' injury is career-ending. Moore denied a report that Holmes may retire due to a spinal injury. Holmes' agent, Todd France, was unavailable for comment, but someone within his organization disputed the report and said suggestions of Holmes retiring soon were inaccurate. However, no one is discounting the possibility Holmes may be out an extended period of time, perhaps the remainder of the 2005 season.

Over-Head
11-09-2005, 12:23 PM
Hurt and ready to retire you say?

Sounds like he's prime Ra!der material to me ROFL

jspchief
11-09-2005, 12:28 PM
It leaves YOU with no option, apparently. I on the other hand just wait for the facts. I don't know what you expect of Vermeil. To just go off half cocked on something that is not completely understood. What if he announces what so far everyone thinks they know and it is all wrong. Then you would be blasting him for that! Some people can never do anything right in other's eyes, it seems.Vermeil pretends to not have any interest or knowledge in Holmes situation. That's bullsh*t.

Homes go to three different cities for three doctor's opinions, but Vermeil says he expects him to play this Sunday. That's bullsh*t.

All along, he doesn't even tell us what part of his body is injured. That's bullsh*t.

Like I said, They are free to keep or release information any way they please. But when it involves a player of the caliber of Priest Holmes, people will start guessing at what is going on. As long as they don't have a problem with having to hold press conferences to squash rumors, they can just keeping doing it their way.

I'm glad you can calmly sit back and wait for the facts. I can't. I'm impatient. I'm eager for knowledge on the status of our players. I like to know every nugget of knowledge that I possibly can. It's who I am. And I'm not alone.

Chiefs Pantalones
11-09-2005, 12:29 PM
I think he should hang it up after this year.

The man has been on the decline, been injured left and right, and it's just time. I love what he's done for us, but it's just time.

Count Alex's Losses
11-09-2005, 12:30 PM
Dick didn't say he didn't care. He said he didn't know. I believe him.

Rausch
11-09-2005, 12:34 PM
Hurt and ready to retire you say?

Sounds like he's prime Ra!der material to me ROFL

Go wash your mouth out with soap...

MOhillbilly
11-09-2005, 12:35 PM
Dick didn't say he didn't care. He said he didn't know. I believe him.

youre a ****in idiot.so who cares what you believe.

jspchief
11-09-2005, 12:37 PM
Dick didn't say he didn't care. He said he didn't know. I believe him.No, but he acts like he doesn't care. He acts like he doesn'y keep himself apprised of the situation. He claims that CP knows Holmes' situation, but he doesn't. I don't buy that for one second.

HemiEd
11-09-2005, 12:41 PM
Speaking of Mister Raye, did anyone else like his playcalling yesterday? ROFL

After San Diego raped KC by passing early, Raye's gameplan was to pound away at the KC run defense.

Also, on 2nd and 25 and 3rd and 23 he ran on both plays on Oakland's first drive.

ROFL


I did, that is what I was trying to address. Be careful when wishing for a change, we might get one we do not want.

BigRedChief
11-09-2005, 12:49 PM
From the Planet FFL on cbssportline

News: A spokesman for the Chiefs denied a report Wednesday that Priest Holmes might be forced to retire because of a spinal ailment. "We won't have anything until later (Wednesday)," said Bob Moore, the team's director of public relations. "I don't think it's career-ending."

kcirnamffoh
11-09-2005, 12:56 PM
No, but he acts like he doesn't care. He acts like he doesn'y keep himself apprised of the situation. He claims that CP knows Holmes' situation, but he doesn't. I don't buy that for one second.

Man, if you're going to hear that a player is retiring, you're going to hear it from the player first not the coach. If you're going to hear that a player is out for the season because of something you're going to hear it when the information is irrefutable and concrete. It sounds like that is coming closer to fruition and you'll just have to quit :deevee: about it and wait. Nothing anyone can do but wait. Go talk about something else. Take a load off. Chill. :rockon:

BigRedChief
11-09-2005, 01:38 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5068124KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) - A spokesman for the Kansas City Chiefs denied a report Wednesday that running back Priest Holmes may retire because of a spinal injury. "We won't have anything until later today," said Bob Moore, the director of public relations. "I don't think it's career-ending."

Holmes, 32, a three-time Pro Bowler whose 66 touchdowns between 2002-2004 are an NFL record for any three-year span, was injured on a helmet-to-helmet hit against San Diego on Oct. 30. He missed last week's game against Oakland and in the past two weeks has seen spinal-injury specialists in California and Florida.

Speculation has been rampant that he would be out for an extended period, although the Chiefs have said they were hopeful he would soon return to the lineup. KSHB reported Wednesday that doctors had found a lump on Holmes' spine and were concerned about possible paralysis should he take a direct hit. Citing a highly-placed source it didn't identify, the station said Holmes could announce his retirement as soon as Thursday. Holmes' agent, Todd France, was traveling Wednesday and not immediately available. An employee of France's agency, who asked not to be named, disputed the report and said suggestions that Holmes was about to retire were inaccurate.

But no one was discounting the possibility Wednesday that the Chiefs' career rushing leader could be out an extended period, perhaps the rest of the year. Injuries have caused Holmes to cut short two of his last three seasons. But he has shown flashes of his old self while rushing for 451 yards and six touchdowns on 119 carries. He also has 21 catches for 197 yards, including a 60-yard catch-and-run for a touchdown in a victory over Washington on Oct. 16.

If he is out for a long period, the Chiefs would turn to Holmes' backup, Larry Johnson, who has averaged 5.2 yards per carry, with 506 yards on 97 attempts. Johnson had two touchdowns in the 27-23 victory Sunday over Oakland, including a 1-yard vault on the final play of the game. He has frequently complained that he was not being given enough carries.

"I don't have any information," coach Dick Vermeil said Tuesday. "In fact, sometimes I get upset because I don't have more information. But the information and communication system is in the right hands." When the three-time Pro Bowl running back is cleared to play again, it will be as the Chiefs' starter — even though Johnson has both of Kansas City's 100-yard rushing games this year.

For all that, though, Vermeil wants Holmes back as soon as possible — especially with the Chiefs (5-3) suiting up three backs against the Raiders. Two —Tony Richardson and Ronnie Cruz — are fullbacks. Although the Chiefs could go with Johnson as their halfback again Sunday against Buffalo, Vermeil said, "I'm hoping that doesn't happen. We know how talented he is, but we know we need two good running backs." Vermeil, who had been using Holmes in two of every three offensive rotations, left no doubt as to his preference for the veteran. "If you want to base it on merit, you have to look at everything Priest Holmes has done," Vermeil said. "His numbers have been the best in the NFL."

philfree
11-09-2005, 05:03 PM
I guess the word retire does have an IR in it. Sad day for Chiefs fans but he's on record as saying that he'd like to play 10 seasons so he's got one more to go. I suspect he'll go rehab and evaluate his condition all the way up to the cap deadline in March(I think that's when it is.) And make a decision about his career. If he does retire before next season I'd think he'd wait till after June 1st to spread the rest of his cap hit over the next two years instead of having it count against the cap in 2006. I hope he can make it back for one more year.....

Here's to you Mr. Holmes :toast: You've had a great career as a Chief and you'll be sorely missed when you do decide to hang it up for good. Good luck with your rehab.


PhilFree:arrow:

greg63
11-09-2005, 05:12 PM
Ditto

4th and Long
11-09-2005, 05:22 PM
Ditto
What he said.

greg63
11-09-2005, 06:33 PM
What he said.

ROFLROFL
Yup!

siberian khatru
11-09-2005, 06:34 PM
I guess the word retire does have an IR in it.


ROFL