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John_Wayne
11-11-2005, 07:09 AM
I say NONE. Today's cars are disposeable. There aren't any that stand out over all others. None will really stand the test of time. There aren't any equivelants to the 64 Mustang, 57 Chevy, Model T, 72 Charger, Model A, etc., etc., etc.

jspchief
11-11-2005, 07:14 AM
Well, Corvettes and Vipers will always be collectables.

I'd say the H2 maybe.

But the nature of the business has made it unlikely for a particular model to hold the appeal like they once did. There are too many models to choose from, so you don't have an ernormous contingent of people saying "the 1989 Taurus was my first car too" like you saw with the '57 Chevy. I think that's what drives these older cars to be so collectable, the combination of a great car and a lot of people being nostalgic about them.

Deberg_1990
11-11-2005, 07:18 AM
Well, Corvettes and Vipers will always be collectables.

I'd say the H2 maybe.

But the nature of the business has made it unlikely for a particular model to hold the appeal like they once did. There are too many models to choose from, so you don't have an ernormous contingent of people saying "the 1989 Taurus was my first car too" like you saw with the '57 Chevy. I think that's what drives these older cars to be so collectable, the combination of a great car and a lot of people being nostalgic about them.

Well said...no one is gonna be nostalgic for the 93 Honda Accord or the 95 Toyota Camry in 20 or 30 years......Not a knock on the cars themselves which I think are great, but its just the nature of the car business today.

morphius
11-11-2005, 07:18 AM
Ford GT will fall into that mold.

BigRedChief
11-11-2005, 07:19 AM
I say NONE. Today's cars are disposeable. There aren't any that stand out over all others. None will really stand the test of time. There aren't any equivelants to the 64 Mustang, 57 Chevy, Model T, 72 Charger, Model A, etc., etc., etc.

2005 Mustang :harumph:

Psyko Tek
11-11-2005, 07:22 AM
I think he V8 dodges have a chance the magnums, 300's and chargers

jspchief
11-11-2005, 07:24 AM
I think he V8 dodges have a chance the magnums, 300's and chargersUgh. It has to at least be considered a good car in the present if it has a chance of being a collectable down the line.

StcChief
11-11-2005, 08:08 AM
Nissan 300z last prod '96. and current 350Z

KC Jones
11-11-2005, 08:23 AM
My best guess would be the Prowler - very unique and didn't sell in great numbers. Secondary guesses would be Crossfire, Pacifica, and maybe the PT Cruiser because it was such a classic "innovation" at the time and really brought on the re-invention of classic design elements.

MIAdragon
11-11-2005, 08:26 AM
some of the limited production mustangs like the 93, 95 and 00 Cobra R, the ZO6 and the Jag type R maybe

MIAdragon
11-11-2005, 08:31 AM
Ugh. It has to at least be considered a good car in the present if it has a chance of being a collectable down the line.


not really look at the mopars of the 60's and 70's no one wanted one back then now you cant touch them!

Brock
11-11-2005, 08:42 AM
Other than the Viper and Corvette, and the rare exotics, I'd say none.

Dr. Facebook Fever
11-11-2005, 08:44 AM
The Toyota Tacoma. It survives being hit by asteroids.

Cochise
11-11-2005, 08:46 AM
It seems like a large percentage of sports cars that might otherwise be collectible are bought today at the economy trim levels. I doubt if many will be collecting the V6 model of a Charger or Magnum or whatever 50 years from now, though, they will lust after the V8. So while many more cars are produced today, I think that the difference between the tiers of the car will keep the rarity factor in play.

I would guess that probably any of the higher end sports cars would be classics. It seems like a car needs to be at the top end of affordable performance for it to become legendary - not so expensive that no one could buy it at the time, but expensive enough to where they weren't super-common.

shakesthecat
11-11-2005, 09:28 AM
not really look at the mopars of the 60's and 70's no one wanted one back then now you cant touch them!

Speaking of those, my boss drove his 67 Dodge Super Bee 440 6-pack today.
I've driven that beast a few times, and it is flat out scarey when you put the pedal to the metal.


As for the original question, I'd have to agree with Brock. The hi-end Vettes and Vipers will prolly increase in value over the years, but that's about it.

MIAdragon
11-11-2005, 10:19 AM
are we talking classics or expensive? of course the "high end" cars will hold its value more but that does not make it a classic, hell the VW bug is considered a classic. really the only car with a HUGE following in the mid 80's till today is the mustang. JMO

Calcountry
11-11-2005, 10:50 AM
I say NONE. Today's cars are disposeable. There aren't any that stand out over all others. None will really stand the test of time. There aren't any equivelants to the 64 Mustang, 57 Chevy, Model T, 72 Charger, Model A, etc., etc., etc.I probably won't be here, so it doesn't matter. This too, is a chasing after the wind, meaningless.

There is nothing new under the sun.

Garcia Bronco
11-11-2005, 11:01 AM
The Toyota Supra Turbo.

MIAdragon
11-11-2005, 11:06 AM
The Toyota Supra Turbo.

I almost said that

Garcia Bronco
11-11-2005, 11:11 AM
I almost said that

I saw a guy with one not to recently...he spent a ton of time on it and it looked brand new..just rolled of the line.

ferrarispider95
11-11-2005, 11:12 AM
90 - 95 Corvette ZR1
Will be worth some cash down the road, limited production, cost extensively more than regular vette.

Any vette that is kept in pristine collection or is a special edition, ie. 96 Grand Sport, Collectors Edition with the lt4

2006 Z06, hard to say, depends on how many they make. Car is a straight freak, running 11.5 at 127 in the quarter, stock.

Early vipers,maybe the 97 GTS

Mustang, cobra r

last transam and camaro made, ws6, ss

Rain Man
11-11-2005, 11:14 AM
The Toyota Supra Turbo.

Are you talking about the ones from the late 80s? Those rocked.

Cochise
11-11-2005, 11:15 AM
I was wondering if they were going to relaunch the Camaro, anyone know?

Chiefsrocker
11-11-2005, 11:15 AM
Well of course my 1995 Thunderbird LX will be a classic! That is why I still have it.

ferrarispider95
11-11-2005, 11:17 AM
I have seen mid 60s, matching number vettes, bringing over 100k,

thats now even the rare ones, like the z06 and some of the ones with the rare engines

Rain Man
11-11-2005, 11:19 AM
If we're talking about cars that are full production (as opposed to Vipers and such), I think there are a few that could become moderately collectible. The top-end Fieros (not the base or intermediate models), the Buick Reatta (a very underrated car, in my opinion), and perhaps even the Chrysler Crossfire (if they don't overproduce them) could become moderately collectible.

Cochise
11-11-2005, 11:19 AM
Man I wish I still had my 1983 Cadillac Cimarron. I know that one is going to be fetching some bucks someday.

Detoxing
11-11-2005, 11:22 AM
I was wondering if they were going to relaunch the Camaro, anyone know?
Supposedly they are going to have a concept in the upcoming detroit autoshow and maybe a final production version by '08/'09 using the sigma Platform, which will also be shared with the new GTO when/if they revamp that bad boy

Garcia Bronco
11-11-2005, 11:35 AM
Are you talking about the ones from the late 80s? Those rocked.

I can't remeber the last year they made them, but it was in the 90's, and I was refering to those.

ferrarispider95
11-11-2005, 11:35 AM
GTO is a joke, looks like a cavalier.

They screwed all the people on the waiting list for the first year by putting the ls1 in it, then the next year got the ls2 and 50 more hp.

ferrarispider95
11-11-2005, 11:37 AM
I can't remeber the last year they made them, but it was in the 90's, and I was refering to those.

It was 95 or 97 I believe, not an import fan, but pretty sick, fast car

ferrarispider95
11-11-2005, 11:40 AM
Man I wish I still had my 1983 Cadillac Cimarron. I know that one is going to be fetching some bucks someday.

That caddy didnt happen to have that cylinder shutoff concept that they are just now perfecting. It didnt work with a shit, but I know they put in all some early 80s caddies, problem was they didnt have a fast enough microproccesser to effectively, cut off and use cylinders.

Cochise
11-11-2005, 11:46 AM
That caddy didnt happen to have that cylinder shutoff concept that they are just now perfecting. It didnt work with a shit, but I know they put in all some early 80s caddies, problem was they didnt have a fast enough microproccesser to effectively, cut off and use cylinders.

Not sure if mine had it. Mine was a 4, though, if they made a larger engine then it might have been that. I can't imagine them shutting it down to 2 :hmmm:

At any rate, it was my first car, purchased for the low low price of $900 in 1995. I put almost 100k miles on it (not bad value for the money), it was about to hit 190k when some azzhole rear-ended me and totaled it.

Thing looked like a complete turd but it was a great car. Wish I still had it.

Detoxing
11-11-2005, 11:53 AM
GTO is a joke, looks like a cavalier.

They screwed all the people on the waiting list for the first year by putting the ls1 in it, then the next year got the ls2 and 50 more hp.

WTF are you talking about? it looks nothing like a cavalier. Did you just read that on the internet or something? And if you did, the comparison is to the Grand Am so get it right. I agree, when you see them in photos, they look bland, but when you are next to one at the stoplight, or test driving one from the dealership, you KNOW right away that it is miles away from a cavalier. You need to be next to it to see it's nice clean lines and shape. I dont care what anyone says, trailing behind that car on the freeway, it's ass does not look like a family car. Keep in mind it is aimed at the M3 crowd, not the mustang crowd, and a lot of earlier GTO's werent exactly marvels of appearance at the time. They were regular old coupes with a big engine. 400hp, beautifull interior and looks classy. Most people wanted a camaro/firebird/mustang type of car, that isnt what hte GTO is, was, or ever will be.

stumppy
11-11-2005, 11:56 AM
My 91' Dodge 250 Van will be a collectible.

It's a pussy gettin motherfugger.









:D

plbrdude
11-11-2005, 11:58 AM
late 80's gs & t type regals are kinda collectable now

Cochise
11-11-2005, 12:01 PM
Keep in mind it is aimed at the M3 crowd, not the mustang crowd, and a lot of earlier GTO's werent exactly marvels of appearance at the time. They were regular old coupes with a big engine. 400hp, beautifull interior and looks classy. Most people wanted a camaro/firebird/mustang type of car, that isnt what hte GTO is, was, or ever will be.

Yeah, totally agree. I think they look great.

For just a couple grand more than what you'd spend on one of the other sports cars you can get a GTO and have a hundred more horsepower. I would buy a GTO a hundred years before I bought any of the others

ferrarispider95
11-13-2005, 02:23 PM
http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/ag/chevrolet_cavalier_lssportsedan_2005_exterior_5_346x270.jpg


http://www.gtoforum.com/photopost/data/509/2758Picture_074-med.jpg

ferrarispider95
11-13-2005, 02:28 PM
Listen I like the engine, but they put in the wrong body. I dont expect in this modern area to get a completely new car, but tell me how the the GTO looks respectable with that body.

Skip Towne
11-13-2005, 02:36 PM
Well, Corvettes and Vipers will always be collectables.

I'd say the H2 maybe.

But the nature of the business has made it unlikely for a particular model to hold the appeal like they once did. There are too many models to choose from, so you don't have an ernormous contingent of people saying "the 1989 Taurus was my first car too" like you saw with the '57 Chevy. I think that's what drives these older cars to be so collectable, the combination of a great car and a lot of people being nostalgic about them.
I think so too. In 1957, the Chevy dealer in the small town I lived in papered over his showroom windows and had a big party to show the new models. Everyone in town showed up. And there were only three choices back then too. Chevy, Ford and Dodge. Now, I can't tell one car from another without reading the name on the hood.

wolfpack0735
11-13-2005, 02:38 PM
hey great post, i mean it. nothing to do with the chiefs today. good for you

JimNasium
11-13-2005, 02:55 PM
I was wondering if they were going to relaunch the Camaro, anyone know?
Link (http://www.mainstreamtopics.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1185&st=0)
http://www.mainstreamtopics.com/goody/camaro05_z.jpg
http://mainstreamtopics.com/forums/uploads/post-17-1087076910.jpg
http://www.mainstreamtopics.com/goody/camaro05_z3.jpg

KCChiefsMan
11-13-2005, 03:22 PM
look at Jay Leno's car collection, they'll still be worth something in 40 years

Psyko Tek
11-13-2005, 03:40 PM
Link (http://www.mainstreamtopics.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1185&st=0)
http://www.mainstreamtopics.com/goody/camaro05_z.jpg
http://mainstreamtopics.com/forums/uploads/post-17-1087076910.jpg
http://www.mainstreamtopics.com/goody/camaro05_z3.jpg


WTF is that??

sharp
very nice

Miles
11-13-2005, 04:33 PM
jspchief nailed it with the point about so many available options.

Most of the ones i can think of are not exactly cheap. Of course there will be plenty of 100K plus cars that will be collectable.

Few i can think of might be:

Corvette Z0-6
Viper
911
Toyota Supra
93-96 RX-7
01-06 BMW M3
Acura NSX