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BigRedChief
11-27-2005, 09:38 PM
ESPN.com article
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=251127012

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) -- It's time for people to start taking notice when Greg Wesley makes bold predictions.

Right before a game against Miami in 2002, Kansas City's free safety said he would get three interceptions, and did. Then Sunday he picked off three of Tom Brady's passes after telling teammates he would, and Sammy Knight grabbed a fourth in a 26-16 victory over the injury-tattered New England Patriots.

Larry Johnson, with his fourth straight outstanding game, ran for 119 yards and a touchdown as the Chiefs (7-4) stayed within two games of Denver in the AFC West. The Patriots (6-5) remained two games ahead of Buffalo in the less-competitive AFC East.

"Maybe I should do it more often," said Wesley. "I had three the other time, but it doesn't compare to this."

He had tight end Tony Gonzalez to verify his prediction.

"I said, `How many are you going to get for me?' " Gonzalez said. "He said three."

Brady was high on many throws. Three of the interceptions were deflected, including Knight's, which he when it bounced off Tim Dwight's hands after the Patriots pulled within 10 points.

The four interceptions tied Brady's career-high and his quarterback rating of 42.5 tied for second lowest in the career of the two-time Super Bowl MVP.

"Tough day," said Brady, 22-for-40 for 248 yards and one TD.
In the first 10 games, he'd been intercepted only six times.
"We didn't execute. It's tough when you spot a good team all those points. I just threw it high," he said.

An aggressive defense also kept pressure on him.
"We got some hits on him and hands in his face," said end Eric Hicks. "When you do that to any quarterback, he's going to become very average."

Iowanian
11-27-2005, 10:00 PM
Wesley started off the season pretty rough, but has really come into his own the past few weeks at FS. He's playing very well.

Phobia
11-27-2005, 10:09 PM
I'll bet he says that every week.

keg in kc
11-27-2005, 10:14 PM
I'll bet he says that every week.Make enough predictions, eventually one will be right. He learned that technique from Taco.

KCJake
11-27-2005, 10:31 PM
An aggressive defense also kept pressure on him.
"We got some hits on him and hands in his face," said end Eric Hicks. "When you do that to any quarterback, he's going to become very average."
:clap:

BigRedChief
11-28-2005, 12:04 PM
Make enough predictions, eventually one will be right. He learned that technique from Taco.

No TJ sightings so far.

ptlyon
11-28-2005, 12:12 PM
"Maybe I should do it more often," said Wesley. "I had three the other time, but it doesn't compare to this."


Well then let's go out and do it every week, shall we?

BigChiefFan
11-28-2005, 12:18 PM
Wesley has been damn good in pass coverage.

BigRedChief
11-28-2005, 12:22 PM
Wesley has been damn good in pass coverage.

And in helping out in the run game. Defintely looks like a reenergized player.

KCTitus
11-28-2005, 12:26 PM
No TJ sightings so far.

Interesting...Ive noticed this as well. Im sure he's just busy.

Mark M
11-28-2005, 12:28 PM
IMHO, Wesley is having a season like Woods did a few years ago -- he's been in the right place at the right time. And some of that has to do with reading the play correctly. But some of it is luck.

MM
~~:shrug:

BigChiefFan
11-28-2005, 12:29 PM
And in helping out in the run game. Defintely looks like a reenergized player.It's amazing what a little competition will do for a player.

Cormac
11-28-2005, 12:30 PM
IMHO, Wesley is having a season like Woods did a few years ago -- he's been in the right place at the right time. And some of that has to do with reading the play correctly. But some of it is luck.

MM
~~:shrug:

The deflections and balls coming to his hands are part luck. But he seems to be in the right place to make a hard hit if the pass is caught. His reading of the opposing offense is really good, IMO, and it seems to be allowing him to play with more abandon too. He's hitting like a truck.

:clap:

Coach
11-28-2005, 12:32 PM
IMHO, Wesley is having a season like Woods did a few years ago -- he's been in the right place at the right time. And some of that has to do with reading the play correctly. But some of it is luck.

MM
~~:shrug:

That's understandable, but he is making plays, and that's the bottom line.

One thing for sure is that Wesley looked lost and didn't know what the hell he was doing in the first half of the season, and he wasn't hitting hard. Since the beginning of the 2nd half of the season, he's a changed man. He has laid some big hits, caused some fumbles, and making plays.

I'm happy.

Mark M
11-28-2005, 12:33 PM
The deflections and balls coming to his hands are part luck. But he seems to be in the right place to make a hard hit if the pass is caught. His reading of the opposing offense is really good, IMO, and it seems to be allowing him to play with more abandon too. He's hitting like a truck.

:clap:

He has been hitting well and has been strong in run support.

I still think he's too late on deep help too often, however, and have seen him miss too many easy tackles to praise him quite yet. I guess I'm still not sold on his resurgence.

Hope I'm wrong ...

MM
~~:shrug: :arrow:

BigChiefFan
11-28-2005, 12:35 PM
IMHO, Wesley is having a season like Woods did a few years ago -- he's been in the right place at the right time. And some of that has to do with reading the play correctly. But some of it is luck.

MM
~~:shrug:3 INTs in one game is a little more than luck, IMO. Wesley already 6 picks in 11 games. I don't recall Woods ever having more than 4 ints in a season.


Put me in the "PLEASED with Wesley's play" column as well.

WilliamTheIrish
11-28-2005, 12:42 PM
Over the years I wonder if Wesley told his mates:
"Hey, I'm going to miss several big tackles this week."

Or:

I'm going to get some critical personal foul calls thjis week."

I'm glad Wesley has played better this season. But I still have a nagging feeling about this D in the long run.

But they were really good yesterday. If we had cashed just one of the FG's yesterday into TD's....Gun may have turned them loose like the old days.

Mark M
11-28-2005, 12:45 PM
That's understandable, but he is making plays, and that's the bottom line.

One thing for sure is that Wesley looked lost and didn't know what the hell he was doing in the first half of the season, and he wasn't hitting hard. Since the beginning of the 2nd half of the season, he's a changed man. He has laid some big hits, caused some fumbles, and making plays.

I'm happy.

Oh, I'm happy. Just not sure if he'll sustain it.

It's not like he's breaking in front of receivers -- he's just in the right place to make the tackle and, instead, is the benefactor of tipped balls.

And while that may sound like a porn movie, my point is that while he does have all those INTs, it's not like he's breaking up play after play. He's just in the right place at the right time. And that is a good thing to be sure. Hell, two of them yesterday were quite impressive acrobatic catches.

My problem, however, is that early in the season he (and Knight) was (were) consistently late in deep help. Team after team burned the Chiefs deep. That seems to have slowed down the past few weeks, but we'll find out Sunday if that's a mirage.

Again, I hope like hell I'm wrong and he goes on to kick ass (which is a good possibility).

MM
~~:arrow:

Coach
11-28-2005, 12:49 PM
Oh, I'm happy. Just not sure if he'll sustain it.

It's not like he's breaking in front of receivers -- he's just in the right place to make the tackle and, instead, is the benefactor of tipped balls.

And while that may sound like a porn movie, my point is that while he does have all those INTs, it's not like he's breaking up play after play. He's just in the right place at the right time. And that is a good thing to be sure. Hell, two of them yesterday were quite impressive acrobatic catches.

My problem, however, is that early in the season he (and Knight) was (were) consistently late in deep help. Team after team burned the Chiefs deep. That seems to have slowed down the past few weeks, but we'll find out Sunday if that's a mirage.

Again, I hope like hell I'm wrong and he goes on to kick ass (which is a good possibility).

MM
~~:arrow:

Fair enough. One thing that we have to keep in mind is that Wesley is playing in a new position, and that Knight is in his first year on the system.

K-Mitchell was an good example in terms of first year in a system. Last year, he was horrible, especially early on the season, but as the season progressed, Mitchell actually got better. This year, Mitchell is one of the bright suprises on the MLB position.

I would be very interested to see how Wesley and Knight will do next year, if they're still in the same system, Gunther's that is.

But in whole, anyway you want to slice it, Gunther's 2 years as a DC > GROB 3 years as a DC statistically speaking.

Lzen
11-28-2005, 01:03 PM
3 INTs in one game is a little more than luck, IMO. Wesley already 6 picks in 11 games. I don't recall Woods ever having more than 4 ints in a season.


Put me in the "PLEASED with Wesley's play" column as well.

While I agree with you point about Wesley, I don't think your statement about Woods is correct. I seem to recall that he had 6 picks in 2003.

Lzen
11-28-2005, 01:05 PM
Oops, my mistake. That was Weley that got 6 INTs in 03.

Lzen
11-28-2005, 01:07 PM
"We got some hits on him and hands in his face," said end Eric Hicks.

We? Don't you mean they?
:rolleyes:

BigRedChief
11-28-2005, 01:13 PM
I still think he's too late on deep help too often



So has Sammy Knight

Mr. Laz
11-28-2005, 01:13 PM
Wesley has been damn good in pass coverage.
bit of a stretch imo

he's doing a dam good job of playing center field ... they have been very simple interceptions for the most part.

he's still pretty much a liability when he actually has to cover someone.


I don't really remember him ever providing deep help to the cornerbacks either.


love the interceptions :clap:


long way to go still.

Skip Towne
11-28-2005, 01:24 PM
Oops, my mistake. That was Weley that got 6 INTs in 03.
It's not like that's the first mistake you ever made. You got Dish Notwork. BIG mistake.

Lzen
11-28-2005, 01:25 PM
It's not like that's the first mistake you ever made. You got Dish Notwork. BIG mistake.

Shuddap, cable guy.