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Loki
12-03-2005, 09:07 AM
CIA missile strike kills al-Qaida No. 3 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10303175/)


Terrorist group's operational leader Rabia killed in Pakistan
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/051203/051203_rabia_killed_hmed6a.hmedium.jpg

Pakistani tribesmen are seen on Thursday displaying a piece of a U.S.
made laser guided missile, found in the debris of a house which was
destroyed after alleged American Predator aircraft, which flew from
bordering Afghanistan, fired on the house, killing five people including
a senior al-Qaida commander identified as Abu Hamza Rabia.


ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - The operational commander of al-Qaida and possibly the No. 3 official in the terrorist organization, Hamza Rabia, was killed early Thursday morning by a CIA missile attack on a safehouse in Pakistan, officials told NBC News.
Pakistan's president later confirmed the militant leader's death.
“Yes indeed, 200 percent. I think he was killed the day before yesterday if I’m not wrong,” President Pervez Musharraf told reporters as he arrived in Kuwait on an official visit on Saturday.

While Pakistani officials publicly said Rabia died in a blast caused by explosives stored in a house for bomb-making, officials speaking on condition of anonymity told NBC News he was killed by a CIA missile strike carried out by an unmanned Predator airplane.
Pakistan's government has always been reticent to admit that Predators are used in Pakistani airspace to hunt down al-Qaida operatives.
The sources told NBC News Rabia was one of five men killed at a safehouse located in the village of Asorai, in western Pakistan, near the town of Mirali.

Among those killed in the attack were two Pakistanis and three Arabs. The attacks were reportedly carried out between 1:45 a.m. and 2 a.m. local time on Thursday.

Local residents said that the men were killed by an unknown number of missiles fired by an unmanned Predator aircraft. The witnesses said that missile remnants bearing U.S. markings remain in the area. They also said they had heard six explosions, but it is uncertain how many of these were the result of missile attacks and how many may have been the result of the missiles detonating explosives inside the safehouse.

The U.S. government confirmed that a missile attack took place, but would not confirm that Rabia was killed.

Rabia had moved up al-Qaida ranks
Rabia has been sought by both U.S. and Pakistani officials for more than two years. Pakistan has offered a $1 million reward for his capture. He is believed to have participated in the planning for two assassination attempts against Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf on Dec. 14 and Dec. 25, 2003. At that time, Rabia was believed to be the chief deputy to Abu Faraj al-Libbi, al-Qaida's operational chief and the No. 3 man in the organization. In May, Pakistani security forces captured Abu Faraj and turned him over to the United States.

U.S. officials have said that Rabia succeeded Abu Faraj as operations chief. Rabia was brought into al-Qaida by Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden's No. 2. Like al-Zawahiri, Rabia is an Egyptian. U.S. officials have described him recently as "top-five al-Qaida" and, as one US official said on Friday, "killing him would be indeed a very big deal."

Rabia was the target of another Predator attack on Nov. 5, according to local Pakistani officials. During that strike, in the village of Mosaki, eight people were killed in what is now described as an unsuccessful attempt to kill Rabia. Local officials have told NBC News that the dead included the wife and children of the al-Qaida leader.

Both the village of Asorai, where Thursday's attack took place, and Mosaki, where the November attack took place, are within 45 minutes of the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. The area is a hiding place for top al-Qaida officials, according to U.S., Pakistani and Afghan officials.

dirk digler
12-03-2005, 09:20 AM
Good news.

Nightwish
12-03-2005, 09:49 AM
That is good news.

Just one question -- the CIA has missiles? Was it one of those really large three-color pens (black, red, and ballistic missile)? Or a converted corvette that shoots missiles out its headlights and fog banks out its exhaust?

Not saying they don't, I've just never thought of the CIA as a combat force. Did the author just slip and meant to say CIA-"guided," or do they actually field combat units from time to time?

MarcBulger
12-03-2005, 10:48 AM
CIA has their own military, most are paid soldiers. Man the left is going to hate this. Bad News for them, they are sitting back hopng for a failure.....

jAZ
12-03-2005, 10:50 AM
CIA has their own military, most are paid soldiers. Man the left is going to hate this. Bad News for them, they are sitting back hopng for a failure.....
Is that you Jake?

Ugly Duck
12-03-2005, 11:03 AM
Man the left is going to hate this. Bad News for them...You don't really think we want Al Qeda to win and the US to lose - cut the bull. If you do believe that, you need some serious psych help. And soon.

Adept Havelock
12-03-2005, 11:08 AM
Good Job. Now bring me the head of the man that killed 3,000 of my countrymen. Then I'll be quite impressed.

NewPhin
12-03-2005, 11:09 AM
You don't really think we want Al Qeda to win and the US to lose - cut the bull. If you do believe that, you need some serious psych help. And soon.

Surely you've known this for a long, long time.

As for the OP. Excellent. :clap:

NewPhin
12-03-2005, 11:11 AM
CIA has their own military, most are paid soldiers.

They also have robots (Predator baby)...oh yeah..and clones.

patteeu
12-03-2005, 12:30 PM
Is that you Jake?

Don't go down the path of the Talking Can. He used to be a good poster before he lost his way.

patteeu
12-03-2005, 12:32 PM
You don't really think we want Al Qeda to win and the US to lose - cut the bull. If you do believe that, you need some serious psych help. And soon.

I think many of you want the US to fail in Iraq, how's that?

WoodDraw
12-03-2005, 12:45 PM
I think many of you want the US to fail in Iraq, how's that?

Don't mistake many of us believing the US already has failed for wanting the US to fail. You'll find that most people against the war are against it in large part due to the Bush administration's incompetent leadership that had led to unneeded US deaths and made a clear victory all but impossible. Don't let that get in the way of your "Democrats hate troops!" rubish though.

patteeu
12-03-2005, 02:38 PM
Don't mistake many of us believing the US already has failed for wanting the US to fail. You'll find that most people against the war are against it in large part due to the Bush administration's incompetent leadership that had led to unneeded US deaths and made a clear victory all but impossible. Don't let that get in the way of your "Democrats hate troops!" rubish though.

If I thought you were a military mastermind like Rommel, I might have some faith in your assessment that we've already failed and that the deaths suffered were unneeded. But I don't.

recxjake
12-03-2005, 02:46 PM
Is that you Jake?

nope but i agree w/ him

recxjake
12-03-2005, 04:05 PM
I just wish we could get Bin....Bush's approval rating would go up 15 points over night

CRONUS
12-03-2005, 04:09 PM
Some rare good news on the real War On Terror :clap:

WoodDraw
12-03-2005, 04:17 PM
If I thought you were a military mastermind like Rommel, I might have some faith in your assessment that we've already failed and that the deaths suffered were unneeded. But I don't.

Well lucky for you then that the world-renowned military experts Bush and Rumsfeld are leading our country in what is most obviously one of the few flawless executions of war in this country's history. Few others would have been capable enough to start a war not only based on such precise intelligence but also with such a well thought out postwar plan that would lead us to as quick a victory as predicted. Well done! I, not having the same level of intelligence as you, was clearly mistaken.

Ugly Duck
12-03-2005, 08:04 PM
I think many of you want the US to fail in Iraq, how's that?I don't get it. Libs would rather have a failure in Iraq than a glowing democracy spreading light throughout the region? I think every single one of us would rather have the neocon "vision" for the country come to fruition. Problem is, most of think that the cabal is a bunch of bumbling buffoons that wouldn't recognize the truth if it came up and bit them on the ass. There just ain't that much confidence that the lying, incompetent cabal can get anywhere near the "victory" that they try to feed the gullible.

patteeu
12-03-2005, 08:55 PM
I don't get it. Libs would rather have a failure in Iraq than a glowing democracy spreading light throughout the region? I think every single one of us would rather have the neocon "vision" for the country come to fruition. Problem is, most of think that the cabal is a bunch of bumbling buffoons that wouldn't recognize the truth if it came up and bit them on the ass. There just ain't that much confidence that the lying, incompetent cabal can get anywhere near the "victory" that they try to feed the gullible.

The answer to your question, IMO, is "yes, many of them would although I would have used the description 'bush-haters' rather than 'libs.'"

Ugly Duck
12-04-2005, 12:17 AM
Hey.... Can't the No. 3 guy just stay caught? The guy was also caught in May 2005:

Pakistan seizes 'al Qaeda No. 3' Abu Faraj al-Libbi
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/05/04/pakistan.arrest/

We caught him in May 2003:
Al-Qaeda No.3 captured Saif al-Adel
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/05/27/1053801392866.html?oneclick=true

We caught him in March 2003:
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed
Since the attacks on New York and Washington, al-Qaeda's alleged No 3 is thought to have moved between Pakistan and neighbouring Afghanistan

I think we caught the #3 guy several times before these #3's. Catching #3 is a good thing. Its just so dang temporary!

MSNBC - “If I had a nickel for every No. 2 and No. 3 they’ve arrested or killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, I’d be a millionaire,” says Kohlmann, a New York-based analyst who tracks the Iraq insurgency. While agreeing that Azzam—also known as Abdullah Najim Abdullah Mohamed al-Jawari—may have been an important figure, “this guy was not the deputy commander of Al Qaeda,” says Kohlmann.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9518556/site/newsweek/

Nightwish
12-04-2005, 12:25 AM
Well, it's possible that all these people we're catching actually are the #2s and #3s, and then a new one just keeps stepping up. Or it could be that the government is just arbitrarily labeling known Al Qaeda members as #2 or #3 for the morale boost. Or it could be the Al Qaeda operatives they're getting their information from are just toying with them, deliberately steering us away from the folks that really are at the top. Some of our #2s and #3s might actually be low-level nobodies.