Don't mess with GOD

[Laz]

Mirecki hospitalized after beating
By Ron Knox, Eric Weslander (Contact)

Originally published 05:37 p.m., December 5, 2005
Updated 06:31 p.m., December 5, 2005

Douglas County sheriff’s deputies are investigating the reported beating of a Kansas University professor who gained recent notoriety for his Internet tirades against Christian fundamentalists.

Kansas University religious studies professor Paul Mirecki reported he was beaten by two men about 6:40 a.m. today on a roadside in rural Douglas County. In a series of interviews late this afternoon, Mirecki said the men who beat him were making references to the controversy that has propelled him into the headlines in recent weeks.


Mirecki
“I didn’t know them, but I’m sure they knew me,” he said.

Mirecki said he was driving to breakfast when he noticed the men tailgating him in a pickup truck.

“I just pulled over hoping they would pass, and then they pulled up real close behind,” he said. “They got out, and I made the mistake of getting out.”

He said the men beat him about the upper body with their fists, and he said he thinks they struck him with a metal object. He was treated and released at Lawrence Memorial Hospital.

“I’m mostly shaken up, and I got some bruises and sore spots,” he said.

Douglas County Sheriff’s Officials are classifying the case as an aggravated battery. They wouldn’t say exactly where the incident happened, citing the ongoing investigation

The sheriff’s department is looking for the suspects, described as two white males between ages 30 and 40, one wearing a red visor and wool gloves, and both wearing jeans. They were last seen in a large pickup truck.

Anyone with information is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 843-TIPS or the sheriff’s office at 841-0007.

Mirecki recently wrote online that he planned to teach intelligent design as mythology in an upcoming course. He wrote it would be a “nice slap” in the “big fat face” of fundamentalists.

The remarks caused an uproar, Mirecki apologized, and KU announced last week the class would be canceled.

[Sully]

... and people wonder why Christianity is bashed on a regular basis.

[Taco John]

The sheriff’s department is looking for the suspects, described as two white males between ages 30 and 40, one wearing a red visor and wool gloves, and both wearing jeans. They were last seen in a large pickup truck.


Goodness. They'll get away scott free!

[CRONUS]

The sheriff’s department is looking for the suspects, described as two white males between ages 30 and 40, one wearing a red visor and wool gloves, and both wearing jeans. They were last seen in a large pickup truck.


Goodness. They'll get away scott free!ROFL

[Mr. Kotter]

... and people wonder why Christianity is bashed on a regular basis.

So those who use the same logic,.,to bash all democrats and liberals....based on the actions of the lunatic fringe and the radical extreme, are justified in your view?

[Fox River]

The Phelp's Compound in Topeka is not that far away from this. Christianity is bashed because in all things there are extremists and the few ruining it for the many. It is idol worship also. It is a magnet for and promotes insanity.

[Mr. Kotter]

... [You pick the subject] is bashed because in all things there are extremists and the few ruining it for the many....

Anyone who accepts that, is either intellectually lazy.....or just plain stupid. One of the two.

[Sully]

So those who use the same logic,.,to bash all democrats and liberals....based on the actions of the lunatic fringe and the radical extreme, are justified in your view?

I never said it was justified, right? I ust pointed out how this illustration lends itself to an understanding of why those on the "fringe" are seen in a certain way.

I, personally, don't accept any type of blanket statements. Whether that be about Christians, Liberals, Conservatives, Gays, Muslims, etc. However, sadly, I understand why people do when I hear stories of this tenor. I've seen and lived too many exceptions to rules, to accept the fact that all are like the public focus of a group, but like I said, I understand why people feel that way.

I guess it's just my job to be one of the guys who tries to change people's ideas. Sadly, in most cases, that makes me the bleeding heart liberal in the world.

[Fox River]

True. However, most of the mythology that Christianists believe in and allow to ruin their lives is leading them down the path of a mental breakdown.

[Mr. Kotter]

True. However, most of the mythology that Christianists believe in and allow to ruin their lives is leading them down the path of mental breakdown.

Heh. And what would that say about the atheist, agnostics, and secular humanist types who (by the studies I've seen--do the googling yourself), are less "happy".....and suffer from more medical and mental "issues?"

:hmmm:

;)

[irishjayhawk]

Heh. And what would that say about the atheist, agnostics, and secular humanist types who (by the studies I've seen--do the googling yourself), are less "happy".....and suffer from more medical and mental "issues?"

:hmmm:

;)
Could this be because they are mentally superior and have a harder time processing their superior thoughts?

;)

[Fox River]

I guess that it is like anything. You and I have opinions that are not the same. We can both find propaganda from each side to back up our feeling as though they are fact. Extremism is the main mental disorder. Every group has its extremists. I say and agree with many experts. Believe in God, and respect others as you respect yourself. JudeoChristianistMuslimism is tearing our world apart. Orthodox members of all of these groups are helping to create devides. Only most Hebrewites and Christianists have evolved to the extent that they do not resort to terrorism.

[Cochise]

That's terrible. Hopefully they are caught and put away for a long time.

[Mr. Kotter]

Could this be because they are mentally superior and have a harder time processing their superior thoughts?

;)

Could be, I suppose. I just doubt it. Heh. ;)

[go bowe]

no, i think the kid is on to something here...

i'm having a hard time processing my superior thoughts...

but maybe it's because i'm mentally deficient...

[TenLap]

Come on, they were just trying to beat the HELL out of him. Ba dum bum...

Seriously, who is that hostile at 6:40 in the morning? Don't get me wrong, I THINK very evil thoughts at that hour, but I just don't have the energy to follow through with it. You have to be a special kind of asshole to get violent at that hour.

[Fox River]

It had to be some of the followers Fred.

[keg in kc]

That's the Christian thing to do.

[Boyceofsummer]

those two Christian redneck Republicans. They probably just got all worked-up listening to talk radio.

[Rausch]

Here's where I have no friends.

As a conservative I have do try and defend against the "Christians are dangerous zealots" attackers.

Of course, I'm an atheist, so I have to fight the uber-righties as well...

[Brock]

Probably a hoax. Just like that picture of Cindy Sheehan at her book signing.

[|Zach|]

Probably a hoax. Just like that picture of Cindy Sheehan at her book signing.The only people I ever hear talking about Sheehan are right wingers...nobody else gives a shit about the tripe that flows from her mouth.

[Brock]

The only people I ever hear talking about Sheehan are right wingers...nobody else gives a shit about the tripe that flows from her mouth.

Couldn't tell it from this here internet board thing.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/search.php?searchid=95267

Sorry, I couldn't just take your word for it.

[|Zach|]

Couldn't tell it from this here internet board thing.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/search.php?searchid=95267

Sorry, I couldn't just take your word for it.Thanks for your search that led to a strong of threads that I can only assume contain the search string Sheehan. Proving very little.

This has nothing to do with the fact that right wingers give her so much attention...falling over themelves about the shit she pulls. And most moderates and even lefties care very little about anything she has done...

Kind of like the mediocre book that gets great sales only because the publicity that comes about from someone wanting it censored.

[Cochise]

Probably a hoax. Just like that picture of Cindy Sheehan at her book signing.

That controversy was all Drudge. The pic itself, if you found the AP caption for it, said she was waiting for the signing to start or somesuch. Although her coniption over it was funny.

She's totally irrelevant to me, but since we're on the topic, has anyone ever heard a less talented public speaker? Sweet mother of mercy.

[|Zach|]

She's totally irrelevant to meShe should be to everyone...

[Baby Lee]

... and people wonder why Christianity is bashed on a regular basis.
Oh the way Glenn Miller played. . .

[Radar Chief]

Oh the way Glenn Miller played. . .

:LOL: Songs that made the Hit Parade…

[Adept Havelock]

Guys like us we had it made,
Those were the days.

And you knew who you were then,
Girls were girls and men were men,
Mister we could use a man
Like Herbert Hoover again.

Didn't need no welfare state,
Everybody pulled his weight.
Gee our old LaSalle ran great.
Those were the days.

[Mr. Kotter]

Guys like us we had it made,
Those were the days.

And you knew who you were then,
Girls were girls and men were men,
Mister we could use a man
Like Herbert Hoover again.

Didn't need no welfare state,
Everybody pulled his weight.
Gee our old LaSalle ran great.
Those were the days.

When Christians weren't hushed by the state,
Those WERE the Ddddaaaayyyyyyysss!!!

[Swanman]

Topeka must be a breeding ground for idiot Christian fundamentalists. There was a funeral in my hometown of Galesburg, Illinois a couple weeks ago for a soldier that was killed in Iraq and a group from a Baptist church in Topeka was there protesting, of all things, gays in the military right outside of the funeral home. Luckily, some students from Knox College stood in front of them so the family didn't have to see the idiot protestors. If I was the father of the soldier and I saw those idiots at my son's funeral, there would have been some funerals in Topeka a few days later.

[Adept Havelock]

When Christians weren't hushed by the state,
Those WERE the Ddddaaaayyyyyyysss!!!

Better get tested for Alzhemier's Kotter. That wasn't in the song. :p

[Radar Chief]

Topeka must be a breeding ground for idiot Christian fundamentalists. There was a funeral in my hometown of Galesburg, Illinois a couple weeks ago for a soldier that was killed in Iraq and a group from a Baptist church in Topeka was there protesting, of all things, gays in the military right outside of the funeral home. Luckily, some students from Knox College stood in front of them so the family didn't have to see the idiot protestors. If I was the father of the soldier and I saw those idiots at my son's funeral, there would have been some funerals in Topeka a few days later.

Sounds like you’re talk’n ‘bout Fred Phelps.
They may claim to be Baptists but I doubt you’ll find any other Baptists, Christians or any other religions for that matter, that’ll claim’im.

[Duck Dog]

Probably a hoax.

My first reaction too. I realize that the Phelp morons could have done this, but it falls more under the MO of liberals that make shit up more than it does the RR. And FWIW, it may not have been a whacko RWRNJ. I'm not religious and I'd like to take a shot at the proffesor.

[Duck Dog]

those two Christian redneck Republicans. They probably just got all worked-up listening to talk radio.

Did you lose a girlfriend or wife to a guy driving a pick up and wearing a baseball hat?

[Sybil]

Did you lose a girlfriend or wife to a guy driving a pick up and wearing a baseball hat?Is this Boyce we are talking about? I mean, seriously--Boyceofsummer, of whatever the hell he calls himself. He is fake. Or he is a caricature of himself. I haven't figured out which yet. But I will.

[Lurch]

Some of you bastards are gonna get hit by LIGHTNING!!!

[Nightwish]

My first reaction too. I realize that the Phelp morons could have done this, but it falls more under the MO of liberals that make shit up more than it does the RR.
I'm kinda thinking the same thing. I know that these kinds of things do happen, and there are some "Christian" whackos out there who do that kind of thing, but this story just seems a little off to me.

[Radar Chief]

I'm kinda thinking the same thing. I know that these kinds of things do happen, and there are some "Christian" whackos out there who do that kind of thing, but this story just seems a little off to me.

That’s kinda what I was think’n, but if he did fake it he faked it well. The report I heard on the radio yesterday claimed several bruises and a chipped tooth when he arrived at the emergency room.

[Duck Dog]

I'm kinda thinking the same thing. I know that these kinds of things do happen, and there are some "Christian" whackos out there who do that kind of thing, but this story just seems a little off to me.


Who are these whackos? As far as I can tell, even the Phelps clan has never been violent. Revolting? Absolutely. But never violent.

[Duck Dog]

....and....just look around this BB. Not one religious whacko, yet we are up to our asses in liberal whackos.

Who are these religious whackos and why aren't any of them Chiefs fans?

[Saulbadguy]

....and....just look around this BB. Not one religious whacko, yet we are up to our asses in liberal whackos.

Who are these religious whackos and why aren't any of them Chiefs fans?
Haven't got dem intarnet hookups in their shantys yet.

[Fox River]

I would like to take part of what I stated the other day back. I should not have generallized about People of Faith and Sprituality in the way that I did. I will refraise it and say that I see and hear of too many People of Christianistism who place belief above reason.

[|Zach|]

....and....just look around this BB. Not one religious whacko, yet we are up to our asses in liberal whackos.

Who are these religious whackos and why aren't any of them Chiefs fans?
*cough*Chief4ever*cough*

Sorry. I got something that has been going around.

[Duck Dog]

*cough*Chief4ever*cough*

Sorry. I got something that has been going around.

Yeah, and if she keeps it up, she'll surpass jAz and meme in thread counts on the DC forum.
:rolleyes:

[Duck Dog]

Haven't got dem intarnet hookups in their shantys yet.

I thought they were linning the RNC's pockets? Are they poor Rednecks or rich Republicans?

[|Zach|]

Yeah, and if she keeps it up, she'll surpass jAz and meme in thread counts on the DC forum.
:rolleyes:
I missed your post count qualifier in the original question.

[kc hopeful]

The Strange Tales of Paul Mirecki (http://townhall.com/opinion/columns/michellemalkin/2005/12/14/178998.html)

[Mr. Kotter]

The Strange Tales of Paul Mirecki (http://townhall.com/opinion/columns/michellemalkin/2005/12/14/178998.html)

Interesting, indeed. :shake:

I'm not saying it didn't happen as the fine Professor says, but let's at least gather all the facts before jumping to any conclusions:

The professor first created controversy in November after penning an unhinged e-mail message expressing his desire to deliver a "slap" to the "big fat face" of the "fundies" by teaching an intelligent design course "as a religious studies class under the category 'mythology.'" The message was sent to the mailing list of the university's Society of Open-Minded (snort!) Atheists and Agnostics. Mirecki signed his taunting diatribe "Evil Dr. P."

Mirecki can't remember where the incident took place, according to local law enforcement, and has offered only the vaguest of suspect descriptions. There are conflicting accounts about Mirecki's physical appearance the day of the attack. While a faculty colleague claimed that "big swollen spots" had "transformed" Mirecki's face, Jesse Plous and Tiffany Jeffers, two of Mirecki's students, told the campus newspaper they didn't notice bruises or scratches when they met for his class six hours after the alleged attack. Lindsay Mayer, another student in the class, "said injuries weren't extremely noticeable." Mirecki did not mention the alleged beating in class.

The truth is there are too many cases of hate crime hoaxers on campuses -- a phenomenon most left-leaning journalists are loathe to cover -- to dismiss the possibility in this case. Last year, Claremont McKenna College professor Kerri Dunn was sentenced to prison after she staged an anti-Semitic hate crime against herself. Earlier this year, a lesbian student at Mt. Tamalpais High School in Marin County, Calif., faked several anti-gay incidents to garner attention and sympathy. Leah Miller, a black student at San Francisco State University, admitted to scratching "NIGG" on a dorm room door and writing herself a note with the same epithet. Jaime Alexander Saide, a Northwestern University student, admitted making up anti-Hispanic threats against himself after the school rallied around him with "Stop the Hate" marches.

Strange, isn't it, how leftists on campus who sneer at blind faith are so often fooled by it themselves

[Duck Dog]

Who are these whacked out religious right wingers? Zach certainly doesn't know (though that's not too surprising).

Certainly these whacked out RR people would be on the tip of every liberals tongue.

[Duck Dog]

Interesting, indeed. :shake:

I'm not saying it didn't happen as the fine Professor says, but let's at least gather all the facts before jumping to any conclusions:

Maybe it was just some normal guy who isn't a whacked out RRW, but feels compelled to defend Christians when morons make rediculous statements about them trying to pass it off as fact.

[Mr. Kotter]

Maybe it was just some normal guy who isn't a whacked out RRW, but feels compelled to defend Christians when morons make rediculous statements about them trying to pass it off as fact.

Pssst. I'm on your side. My head shake was toward all those who accepted the profs version of events without hearing the rest of the story....;)

[Duck Dog]

Pssst. I'm on your side. My head shake was toward all those who accepted the profs version of events without hearing the rest of the story....;)

I know that. :p Didn't mean to make it sound like I was saying that 'at' you.

[Area 51]

Topeka must be a breeding ground for idiot Christian fundamentalists. There was a funeral in my hometown of Galesburg, Illinois a couple weeks ago for a soldier that was killed in Iraq and a group from a Baptist church in Topeka was there protesting, of all things, gays in the military right outside of the funeral home. Luckily, some students from Knox College stood in front of them so the family didn't have to see the idiot protestors. If I was the father of the soldier and I saw those idiots at my son's funeral, there would have been some funerals in Topeka a few days later.

So you would lower yourself to their level?