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CrazyHorse
12-08-2005, 07:50 AM
I was thinking of getting one for my wife.

cadmonkey
12-08-2005, 07:59 AM
The best Ipod huh? I would say Apple, seeing how they are the only ones who make the name Ipod.

I think you mean who makes the best mp3 player.

I have a 20 Gb. Ipod and I love it. I wish I go the 40 GB one though.

ChiefsFanatic
12-08-2005, 08:02 AM
I was thinking of getting one for my wife.

iPod's are now HP, I think. I have been shopping around for one too. Do you want a flash player or a HDD model?

BigChiefFan
12-08-2005, 08:40 AM
I would say Apple's I-Pod is the way to go. Be sure and buy the I-trip, as well. That's what makes your tunes mobil.

Marcellus
12-08-2005, 08:44 AM
iPod's are now HP, I think. I have been shopping around for one too. Do you want a flash player or a HDD model?


iPod = Apple and Apple only.

CrazyHorse
12-08-2005, 09:00 AM
I really have no idea what I am looking for. I was hpoing to get some info from this thread. The tunes definately need to be mobil. Also, I dont have an apple computer. Does that matter?

The player would be for listening to music while working out mostly. But I would want probably a higher end unit. One that does pretty much everything.

Any suggestions?

pak1983
12-08-2005, 09:05 AM
get a 60gb video ipod, the new one, you can also buy a tape converter like the old cardiscmans where you plug into the top of the ipod and put a tape into the deck in your car. much better than the itrip, uses batteries, single and quality is not as good, and the itrip is more expensive. PM me if you want some links of good places to buy. If you dont want to drop all the cash at once Circuit City rewards card has 2 years no intrest on any $300 or more purchase.

BigChiefFan
12-08-2005, 09:05 AM
I really have no idea what I am looking for. I was hpoing to get some info from this thread. The tunes definately need to be mobil. Also, I dont have an apple computer. Does that matter?

The player would be for listening to music while working out mostly. But I would want probably a higher end unit. One that does pretty much everything.

Any suggestions?You don't need an Apple computer to use the I-Pod or to download music, however if have an Apple, it makes transferring music going alot quicker.


Go to the Apple website for info on the different models. Here's the link...
http://www.apple.com/itunes/

BigChiefFan
12-08-2005, 09:08 AM
get a 60gb video ipod, the new one, you can also buy a tape converter like the old cardiscmans where you plug into the top of the ipod and put a tape into the deck in your car. much better than the itrip, uses batteries, single and quality is not as good, and the itrip is more expensive. PM me if you want some links of good places to buy. If you dont want to drop all the cash at once Circuit City rewards card has 2 years no intrest on any $300 or more purchase.
The I-Trip allows you to listen on ALL stereos. Sounds like the model you are recommending only works on car tape players. If so, I think there is better value with the I-Trip.

morphius
12-08-2005, 09:11 AM
iPod's are now HP, I think. I have been shopping around for one too. Do you want a flash player or a HDD model?
HP ended that relationship earlier this year.

morphius
12-08-2005, 09:12 AM
The I-Trip allows you to listen on ALL stereos. Sounds like the model you are recommending only works on car tape players. If so, I think there is better value with the I-Trip.
Though I have heard the quality of sound is better in the tape deck model the the FM transmitters.

pak1983
12-08-2005, 09:45 AM
itrip is crap.

Radar Chief
12-08-2005, 09:46 AM
Though I have heard the quality of sound is better in the tape deck model the the FM transmitters.

FM has a limited frequency response, something like 80Hz-15KHz IIRC, so yea a tape deck converter could provide better frequency response since they aren’t so limited. You might get more noise, hiss, since it is going through the tape head though.

JazzzLovr
12-08-2005, 09:47 AM
itrip is crap.

If that is the case, do you have an alternate suggestion for people who only have a CD player in their car, and no cassette deck?

Tigermoose
12-08-2005, 09:47 AM
I had an IPOD mini that I listened to constantly. After a mere 5 months the batter was losing its charge and the IPOD was unusable. When I sent my IPOD in for a battery replacement, they informed me that they could not replace the battery without replacing the entire casing. And since the casing and a dent on the corner, they told me it would cost me $230. This is because 1)They are assholes, and 2) they don't replace the battery, but instead give you a different refurbished IPOD. This is because the IPOD's battery is tightly integrated into the IPOD itself. If you try to do it yourself, you will most likely damage your IPOD.

My advice would be to get a Creative Labs Zen Micro. These have replaceable batteries that can be snapped in and out. That way you don't have to worry about getting screwed by Apple. Mine is on its way.

AZORChiefFan
12-08-2005, 09:51 AM
If the car stereo has CD changer control they sell adapters that allow you to plug in the ipod directly to the stereo. Thats the set up I have now it sounds great. I had the iTrip in the past, didn't care for it by the time I got the Ipod to transmit to a station I would start driving and then I would lose the signal so I'd have to try again. I switched to a tape adapter and liked it much better.

AZORChiefFan
12-08-2005, 09:57 AM
If you do get an Ipod/MP3 player don't get suckered into some of the accessories they sell right that are usually in the same area of the Ipod/MP3 player. The cheapy $4 tape adapters work just as well as the white 'ipod' ones that will run you $20 same goes for the wires like an RCA spliter that will allow you to plug into a home stereo or TV or whatever the cheapy ones work just as well.

morphius
12-08-2005, 09:59 AM
If that is the case, do you have an alternate suggestion for people who only have a CD player in their car, and no cassette deck?
I have been wondering the same thing. Mine doesn't have the cool connections in back for a cd changer control either.

Frosty
12-08-2005, 10:04 AM
I tried several FM transmitters and they all sucked. Most of them clipped the music somewhat. I ended up buying a Sik Imp to provide a lineout from the ipod and installed a device that added an AUX input in my stock deck in my Silverado. Sounds great.

I did have to replace the stereo in our van, though, since no one made an AUX unit for it. I bought this deck (http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=14787) which provides an auxilliary input (great deal, by the way). Well worth it.

AZORChiefFan
12-08-2005, 10:08 AM
For those of you that don't have CD changer control - this might work
linky (http://www.engadget.com/entry/0647766019932855/)

Rausch
12-08-2005, 10:15 AM
I had an IPOD mini that I listened to constantly. After a mere 5 months the batter was losing its charge and the IPOD was unusable. When I sent my IPOD in for a battery replacement, they informed me that they could not replace the battery without replacing the entire casing. And since the casing and a dent on the corner, they told me it would cost me $230. This is because 1)They are assholes, and 2) they don't replace the battery, but instead give you a different refurbished IPOD. This is because the IPOD's battery is tightly integrated into the IPOD itself. If you try to do it yourself, you will most likely damage your IPOD.

My advice would be to get a Creative Labs Zen Micro. These have replaceable batteries that can be snapped in and out. That way you don't have to worry about getting screwed by Apple. Mine is on its way.

Ignorance is costly...

What is the iPod Battery Replacement Program?
If your iPod requires service only because the battery’s ability to hold an electrical charge has diminished, Apple will replace your iPod for a service fee of $59, plus $6.95 shipping. Be sure to follow all of the battery troubleshooting steps before submitting your iPod for battery replacement.

How much does it cost to participate in the program?
The program costs $59, plus $6.95 shipping. The total program cost is $65.95 per unit.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=62018#2

Frosty
12-08-2005, 10:19 AM
For those of you that don't have CD changer control - this might work
linky (http://www.engadget.com/entry/0647766019932855/)

Probably will work for some, but, unfortunately, you still need your deck to have the changer controls, which my Mazda didn't. For $200, you might as well replace the head unit.

AZORChiefFan
12-08-2005, 10:32 AM
Probably will work for some, but, unfortunately, you still need your deck to have the changer controls, which my Mazda didn't. For $200, you might as well replace the head unit.

Sorry I misread the copy under item I thought it said it didn't utilize CD changer controls - my bad.

Yeah I bought a stock tape player and replaced my CD player in my old car just so I could use the tape adapter. Got the stock stereo on ebay for .99.

AZORChiefFan
12-08-2005, 10:34 AM
Might check car stereo install places. I got my head unit and adapter (CD changer) for under $250 installed.

morphius
12-08-2005, 10:44 AM
I also have the extra annoyance that I have controls on my steering wheel for the stereo, which I really like, so replacing the unit isn't really an option either.

I love being me :D

Ari Chi3fs
12-08-2005, 10:47 AM
I have an Archos MP3 player, and it kicks ass. I also purchased a FM Transmitter and I now listen to my MP3s on 107.7

10 gbs = 67$ on ebay
fm transmitter = $15

Tigermoose
12-08-2005, 11:01 AM
Ignorance is costly...



http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=62018#2


Yes, you are very ignorant. My IPOD was actually still within the 1 year warranty, which means that they should have replaced the battery free of charge. But unfortunately, if you have any kind of scuff or dent on your casing, they will charge you to replace the entire casing, which is $230. You only need to enroll in the battery replacement program if your IPOD is out of warranty. And even then, if you have ever dropped your IPOD, you most likely will have to pay $200+ to get your IPOD battery replaced (because they won't replace the battery without fixing the case).

Arrogance is embarrasing.

Frosty
12-08-2005, 11:07 AM
I also have the extra annoyance that I have controls on my steering wheel for the stereo, which I really like, so replacing the unit isn't really an option either.

I love being me :D

You can get direct FM transmitters. Instead of transmitting over the air, like most of them do, they plug between the antenna and deck. They are much cleaner than the over the air kind.

We had an aftermarket CD changer that used one of those and it sounded really good.


Link (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-T3WR2hULFaN/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=234550&I=142FMMOD01)

KC Kings
12-08-2005, 11:10 AM
I have a 256 mg RCA Lyra, that I have had for 2 years. You can find them on sale for under $50 now, and it has taken a beating and worked like a champ for 2 years strong. You can get better ones with much bigger hard drives, but I use mine when jogging or working in the yard, and I don't want to have to deal with changing albums/songs to what I want. I pick out 30-40 before hand, throw em on, and listen to them straight.

I also bought a $20 FM transmitter, and it sucks. I bought one with 4 preset channels. It sucked, I took it back, and got one that you can dial in to any channel. It also sucks and it poor quality, mono music. I am sure the ones with the built in FM transmitter are of much better quality though.

Find a few you like that are in your price, then go on line to look for reviews. Amazon is a good plce to start.

Rausch
12-08-2005, 11:21 AM
Yes, you are very ignorant. My IPOD was actually still within the 1 year warranty, which means that they should have replaced the battery free of charge. But unfortunately, if you have any kind of scuff or dent on your casing, they will charge you to replace the entire casing, which is $230. You only need to enroll in the battery replacement program if your IPOD is out of warranty. And even then, if you have ever dropped your IPOD, you most likely will have to pay $200+ to get your IPOD battery replaced (because they won't replace the battery without fixing the case).

Arrogance is embarrasing.

If you have the applecare plan (http://www.apple.com/support/products/applecareipod.html) this should cover damn near anthing. I had it on my computer and they paid to have a tech come to my house and replace both the power supply and motherboard free of charge.

Guy in my class dropped his in a cooler (full of ice and water) and got his replaced for free.

If you want to replace it yourself or want them to do it (much cheaper than apple) go here: http://www.ipodjuice.com/

Or read one of the many Cnet walkthroughs:
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10165_7-5643378-1.html

And another helpful FAQ:
http://www.ipodbatteryfaq.com/#5

I also wonder if you didn't suffer an IOTOE (idiot on the other end) breakdown. When my puter went down I had to blow off two Paki's to get an American on the other end.

morphius
12-08-2005, 12:04 PM
You can get direct FM transmitters. Instead of transmitting over the air, like most of them do, they plug between the antenna and deck. They are much cleaner than the over the air kind.

We had an aftermarket CD changer that used one of those and it sounded really good.


Link (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-T3WR2hULFaN/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=234550&I=142FMMOD01)
You rock! I knew there had to be something like that out there, and farely cheap, I was just having trouble finding it.

ChiefsFanatic
12-08-2005, 12:23 PM
iPod = Apple and Apple only.
OK. It looks like I was a couple of months too late. oops (http://news.com.com/HP+to+stop+selling+Apples+iPod/2100-1047_3-5810643.html)

Tigermoose
12-08-2005, 12:26 PM
If you have the applecare plan (http://www.apple.com/support/products/applecareipod.html) this should cover damn near anthing. I had it on my computer and they paid to have a tech come to my house and replace both the power supply and motherboard free of charge.

Guy in my class dropped his in a cooler (full of ice and water) and got his replaced for free.

If you want to replace it yourself or want them to do it (much cheaper than apple) go here: http://www.ipodjuice.com/

Or read one of the many Cnet walkthroughs:
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10165_7-5643378-1.html

And another helpful FAQ:
http://www.ipodbatteryfaq.com/#5

I also wonder if you didn't suffer an IOTOE (idiot on the other end) breakdown. When my puter went down I had to blow off two Paki's to get an American on the other end.

I actually spoke with some customer service manager who told me that they would not replace the battery without fixing the case, which would cost me $230. My only other option was to not get my IPOD battery replaced.

After being denied and told where to stick it, I tried doing the repair myself with a battery I bought online. This didn't work so well because of how tightly compacted and integrated the IPOD circuitry is.

Yea, the added Applecare plan might offer more protection, but that's more money. Why not just get a Zen Micro and not have to deal with sending in your IPOD when the battery runs out? :shrug: And its cheaper, with more features (can store any file format).